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On November 06 2016 09:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 09:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote:
If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead.
##vote Foreman Just to make sure we're on the same page: I'm not really in agreement that Foreman is scum as I am not 100% convinced yet. He's like my Damdred read from last game: I found him scummy when he was there, and because he ditched us, he looks scummier and stays in the PoE pool. I would not call him obvious scum like Jat basically. I'm not 100% convinced either. I am just voting the one dude that all three of us suspect given that we are split on Skynx/ Rels/ DF. Seems like optimal strategy to me.
Ok.
As long as we don't write the sequel of "2 Days of Lynching Vivax" by spending our time yodeling around with our votes on Foreman I'm fine with that plan.
Though the optimal plan would be to convince each other which of Skynx / DF / Rels is/are scum so we don't fall into the pitfall of lynching an AFK as our last ML.
I will re-read DF tomorrow.
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On November 06 2016 08:56 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think. I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx. Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman. If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game.
I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers
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On November 06 2016 09:43 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 08:56 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think. I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx. Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman. If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game. I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers
This guy's too funny to be maf.
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On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:Summary Very town: mahg
Townlean: Exo, Calix
Not read at all: darth
Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman
Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels
Scum: TT, NU+ Show Spoiler +
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
I kind of think that this post alone makes Skynx mafia tbh.
His two scum-reads are myself and TT whom I've TR since the beginning of the game. He did not push either properly, and both his cases were lacking to say the least. Like, he's not that bad as town. I remember him saving TT in the last newbie game and Grack in HM3. It's like he has emo reads for the sake of having elmo reads.
Also, if you look at his filter, there is no progression on his read on me. He never talks about me before posting his wot (other than saying "Wow, you're good" about my prediction of what was going to happen and joking about making me stfu). His read really looks like it was made of thin air.
Plus, he had ExO as a town-lean. How was he so sure that ExO was going to flip town with such a read?
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On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote:
If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead.
##vote Foreman
Yea I'm For this...
##vote Foreman
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/syYZ65c.gif)
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On November 06 2016 10:19 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote:
If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead.
##vote Foreman Yea I'm For this... ##vote Foreman
You're almost as much of a dork as disformation. That's quite the feat.
NU makes yet another valid point. I feel like that's becoming redundant with Skynx, lol.
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On November 06 2016 09:43 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 08:56 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think. I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx. Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman. If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game. I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers
Lol Ok you prob deserve some cred for that.
Actually looking over your posts again you do make pretty decent points.
Let me ride this train of thought a bit longer though, I'm having fun with it.
![[image loading]](https://media2.giphy.com/media/PaaauvsPQ10I0/200.gif#20)
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On November 05 2016 02:49 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Who is most town other than us?
This post is sooo scummy too.
His question was pointless because ExO had stated what his reads were plenty of times. All Skynx was doing with this post was reminding everyone that Calix and him were 100% town to ExO re Asking for town-reads over mafia reads and using "Other than us".
I want to lynch this mafioso.
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On November 06 2016 10:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 10:19 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote:
If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead.
##vote Foreman Yea I'm For this... ##vote Foreman You're almost as much of a dork as disformation. That's quite the feat. NU makes yet another valid point. I feel like that's becoming redundant with Skynx, lol.
Am I tunneling? o.o
On November 06 2016 10:31 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 09:43 darthfoley wrote:On November 06 2016 08:56 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think. I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx. Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman. If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game. I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers Lol Ok you prob deserve some cred for that. Actually looking over your posts again you do make pretty decent points. Let me ride this train of thought a bit longer though, I'm having fun with it.
bruh
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On November 06 2016 10:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 10:24 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 10:19 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote:
If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead.
##vote Foreman Yea I'm For this... ##vote Foreman You're almost as much of a dork as disformation. That's quite the feat. NU makes yet another valid point. I feel like that's becoming redundant with Skynx, lol. Am I tunneling? o.o Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 10:31 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 09:43 darthfoley wrote:On November 06 2016 08:56 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think. I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx. Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman. If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game. I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers Lol Ok you prob deserve some cred for that. Actually looking over your posts again you do make pretty decent points. Let me ride this train of thought a bit longer though, I'm having fun with it. bruh
You're certainly not achieving anything new.
We cannot make proper progress until the three main suspects pop online. I'm getting bored of waiting.
TT looking at Rels is the only other thing I am waiting for atm.
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Ok doing at least one serious thing before I go raid in WoW (at least I think we are still raiding, a fair few ppl at blizzcon I think).
There are a couple of instances of Rels looking at past games to get some meta reads on people which I suppose scum could do just as easily as town, but I'd put more weight on it being a towny thing to do.
On November 03 2016 22:19 Rels wrote:Thanks. So that's the turbo game you and Calix were talking about at the point in the thread I'm at. Doesn't seem super impressive to me, only short posts and not a lot of fighting. Apparently your tone was aggressive and that is off-meta for you ? But you didn't really fight with other people.
He also does this with gell and Darth later on.
This was the first thing that catches my eye.
On November 03 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
K I'm almost caught up but I also have to go for a few hours, afternoon is full of meetings. My reads atm:
TOWN
Foreman NU ExO
Calix TT
Skynx mahrgell DF
SCUM
See you soon!
Was no mention of Foreman prior to this, so it's really odd he's Rel's top town here.
I like this post, it's not really in scum!Rels' interest to make a post like this because he could pretty easily try to use Calix's strong scum play to keep throwing shade on her. This would be limiting his options if Rels is scum.
On November 04 2016 06:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 02:39 Calix wrote:
I feel like I am being overly generous with my town-reads though. As it stands, I'm town-reading Skynx, mahrgell, darthfoley, ExO, Foreman to varying degrees.
Unless the scum team is something like Rels/ NU or TT/ Rels or some shit then I've definitely fucked up somewhere. This is a townie post. Especially from someone with a strong scumgame who have 0 problem finding lynchbaits to push.
He does something similar with marhgell
On November 04 2016 07:31 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:28 mahrgell wrote:On November 04 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:12 mahrgell wrote:On November 04 2016 06:21 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 02:37 mahrgell wrote:On November 04 2016 02:16 darthfoley wrote:On November 03 2016 22:54 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 21:37 Rels wrote:On November 03 2016 21:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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Explain. 1. It is obviously anti town to seriously claim VT at the start of the game. Scum usually don't do obvious scummy things, on the contrary they try to be townie. It's WIFOM, but in mafia the simplest explanation is often the right one. 2. It removes ExO's ability to fakeclaim if he's scum, which is a great tool as scum, and even more in semi open setup like the one we're playing. Eh, I like this thinking but I think your first point is moot since Exo stated several times that he doesn't think his claim is bad for town. I'm actually seeing more of a disconnect between how much he talked about why he claimed and yet never realized why that claim might be bad.I suppose since this is a newbie game I should elaborate on why a VT claim is bad for town. Basically it makes mafia's side goal of killing off blue roles that much easier. If you are VT and claim it is essentially helping mafia blue hunt by narrowing the pool of people they want to look into. Why do you "like this thinking" if you admit that his first point is null and you don't respond to the second point? If it's all null or NAI, what is there to like? TT's discussion of Rels seems super off to me. I can indeed see a townish interpretation to what Rels said here and can see myself saying the same(stylewise, not in this specific case), so I disagree with you for now. But I would actually like Rels to answer this himself, to see if his motivation matches my thoughts. What do you want me to answer to ? I was referencing to a post you answered just before earlier: On November 04 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:On November 03 2016 23:41 mahrgell wrote:
About Rels. I agree with basically none of his reads, pretty apparent with his 3 top town being my top scum. But there is one thing you can't blame him for: Trying to blend in. I would love to see him explaining his controversial reads.
Mainly I'm interested in:
- why does he town NU
- why does he town Foreman - I can see people not agreeing my concerns regarding foreman, but seriously, what has he done to make him a townread???)
- what makes foley scummy? - "hates post" okay... Tell me more.
Share your thought process. I haven't seen any reasoning on those reads and admit they don't make sense to me. I townread NU mainly for a pretty bad reason: that he posted his "mafia metric" team. This is a pretty awful reason 'cause it's based on out-of-the-game thing but that's my main reason to believe NU is town. Outside of that his attitude is also pretty townie and matches the town meta I know of him. Foreman, I read a lot of posts where he was just blunt and not posting BS. I think his tone is super townie. DF I'll have to reread, I just thought his entrance post was super bad. More on everything when I'm caught up and can reread filters. Okay, I understand your NU point. I noticed this as well, but what struck me with that was something else: At the point NU posted it ( here)... not even a day had passed. In fact he claimed to have sent it during the night before. Well... At this point in time mafiametrics were supposed to be sent in every 24 hours. So either NU sucks badly at reading what cakepie wrote... Or he simply didn't read it because he isn't invited to participate in it anyway and used this badly prepared "towntell" for someone like you to pick it up. --- Foreman: I see where you are coming from, again. Honestly, if you are right, I would consider it rather sad, but I guess the "be a dick" meta is really the current thing. But here I still lack any attempt by Foremen to progress the game. Okay, let him be blunt, let him be the noBS type. But what did he contribute? At this point I actually question myself, as I seem to be the only one not liking Foremen. But I simply can't get it. All reasons for him to be town sound like yours "He doesnt give a fuck about others". Yeah, but maybe it would be a useful trait to actually give a fuck about others. --- DF: You were asked by others too, what struck you as bad about DFs initial post? I have enough reason to reconsider DF myself in the light of the latest posts, but while I didn't consider his first post as outstanding novelty, I didn't get the same shitty feeling you described having. --- Rels, yourself: Actually, I would like to hear more from you. At this point it looks like we are coming from very different angles. Our reads are still kinda diametral opposites. I could accept your Foreman and NU reasoning, also I explained why I think different. That thing about the first DF post feels off to me, so feel free to clarify. NU: I disagree, this kind of thing comes more often from town than not. And I had the proof last game that NU really plays like that as town. About the 24h thing, actually scum fakeclaims are in general way more clean than town fakeclaims. Foreman: well on a meta level I agree with you, but it is true regardless. Foreman's tone is townie. DF: read further and you'll find things. You're not a newb right ? Can you link to your own forum ? This is my first forum mafia game but I have RL mafia experience. If you really wish, this can be confirmed, but that is out-of-game stuff. About DF: I was specifically asking about your judgement on his first post. You mentioned several times you "hate it", disliked it etc.. If you have detailed this more in some answer, I missed it. Can you link me? I said, that the more recent DF posts have been changing my view, but I lacked the time to fully go over him again. Wow OK that actually changes my read on you completely. I'm having a very hard time seeing you as scum for your first ever forum game, under some pressure since almost the beginning of the game, and still posting as much and as detailed as you do. I actually remember my first game, I come from RL mafia too and I was like that, super analytic about everything. A pleasure having you on this forum then (= Gonna quote the DF stuff
Maybe I'm shit at reading but I think this is the first time Rels talks about his read on Foreman.
On November 04 2016 20:54 Rels wrote:Skynx has a real shot at being scum too. A lot of his posts just look like fake to me, faking a "not-caring" tone. To compare with Foreman, it looks like Skynx is trying to appear not caring, while Foreman just doesn't care and wite stuff that he thinks. And I know weaker scums tend to do that after losing scumgames 'cause it's easier to play. And I know Skynx is not a very good scum player. These posts make me think that: + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2016 04:12 Skynx wrote:
Man you guys are way too fun to read On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages  On November 03 2016 05:10 Skynx wrote:
I mean I really dunno what to add here, its just NAI guys.
Can we talk about like flowers and butterflies? On November 03 2016 05:15 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Well, Calix is the one to make me explain how NAI stuff is NAI you can blame him for that if you really want to. I'm just here to drink milk and fuck bitches. On November 03 2016 22:17 Skynx wrote:
I only like darth so far for making sense with his posts while keeping it short and meaningfull.
I hate TT's reads in p15 or something they are literally the worst. He deserves a vote but I'll touch on this a bit later on.
Exo's reads are quite bad aswell but less bad than TT.
Haven't read Rels yet.
Rest is bad and should feel bad for being able to spam this much and actually say nothing of worth.
I'm gona vote for a stfu lynch on the biggest filter for now before i actually get a time to read in detail cuz this shit is unacceptable. Actually, his only real content were in his 2 huge wall posts. I disagree with pretty much everything he's said in it. A lot of it is just logical mistakes that are not scum tells.
I didn't feel like there was much to note about Rels' progression on Exo, though it still felt kinda natural to me.
By and large I still kinda like Rels's posting this game, he has some pretty good townreads and reasoning for them. I kinda like his progression in general, and think he's made a few reads that would limit his options unnecessarily if he is scum.
His lack of explanation about his Foreman TR is what worries me, especially since Rels otherwise seems to be being fairly careful with his townreads.
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On November 06 2016 10:46 Calix wrote:
We cannot make proper progress until the three main suspects pop online. I'm getting bored of waiting.
This so much.
I feel like we have a pretty strong towncircle here with you, NU, and myself. If we can get one more really solid townread on someone then this game should be basically over.
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On November 03 2016 22:57 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Calix
Town doesn't ignore other members of the town. I'm ignoring exactly 100% of these pushes between you and Calix. Honestly you two seem to get so emotionally worked up over how you read each other I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. ... You guys might actually make an amazing scum team.
Someone remind me to tinfoil the shit out of a NU/Calix scumteam if we get much further into this without a mafia lynch.
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I don't like the reasons ehy you town-read Rels. I think there are far better ones to do so. I may outline what makes me think that rels could be town tomorrow.
Well we have one ml before mylo. Tinfoiltock might have to come sooner than later.
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On November 06 2016 11:25 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 22:57 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Calix
Town doesn't ignore other members of the town. I'm ignoring exactly 100% of these pushes between you and Calix. Honestly you two seem to get so emotionally worked up over how you read each other I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. ... You guys might actually make an amazing scum team. Someone remind me to tinfoil the shit out of a NU/Calix scumteam if we get much further into this without a mafia lynch.
This is also my tinfoil worry lol
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Foreman (3) : NeverUnlucky, Calix, Tictock
Rels (0) : Calix (X)
Not voting (4) : darthfoley, Foreman, Rels, Skynx
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On November 05 2016 02:11 Rels wrote:
Now I know that it is super annoying to play as town when everybody is scumreading you. I know you're having a bad town if you're town. But I think you're scum.
On November 05 2016 02:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:57 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:56 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday. That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie. again, distancing himself just like TT. Look very very very closely att TT/rels. they're both experienced and they both should've known this was a bad lynch. If you're town, you can go fuck yourself.
On November 04 2016 05:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 23:21 Tictock wrote:
So... Kinda meh about Rels so far.
About the only thing I actually liked from him was the post about the VT claim.
Rels what happened to you? Your play the past few games is like your heart just isn't in it anymore. Nothing, just not a lot of time. But my motivation is still there, I mean I thought about the game all afternoon. p:
On November 04 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 23:41 mahrgell wrote:
About Rels. I agree with basically none of his reads, pretty apparent with his 3 top town being my top scum. But there is one thing you can't blame him for: Trying to blend in. I would love to see him explaining his controversial reads.
Mainly I'm interested in:
- why does he town NU
- why does he town Foreman - I can see people not agreeing my concerns regarding foreman, but seriously, what has he done to make him a townread???)
- what makes foley scummy? - "hates post" okay... Tell me more.
Share your thought process. I haven't seen any reasoning on those reads and admit they don't make sense to me. I townread NU mainly for a pretty bad reason: that he posted his "mafia metric" team. This is a pretty awful reason 'cause it's based on out-of-the-game thing but that's my main reason to believe NU is town. Outside of that his attitude is also pretty townie and matches the town meta I know of him. Foreman, I read a lot of posts where he was just blunt and not posting BS. I think his tone is super townie. DF I'll have to reread, I just thought his entrance post was super bad. More on everything when I'm caught up and can reread filters.
On November 06 2016 00:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 00:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I pretty much exposed my reads on the last page, so I'll post the whole list now.
Calix / TT / Mahr
DF
Skynx
Foreman/Rels I'm actually not that sure about Rels anymore because he was quick to dish out TRs on me, Calix, mahr, Exo (at first), and TT. It doesn't look like a good scumplay to do so.
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Ah, shit. Forgot to add the context. Those are Rels' posts / posts about Rels that are reasons to town-read him. If you don't understand why I included one of the quotes, ask away.
On November 06 2016 12:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 11:25 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 22:57 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Calix
Town doesn't ignore other members of the town. I'm ignoring exactly 100% of these pushes between you and Calix. Honestly you two seem to get so emotionally worked up over how you read each other I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. ... You guys might actually make an amazing scum team. Someone remind me to tinfoil the shit out of a NU/Calix scumteam if we get much further into this without a mafia lynch. This is also my tinfoil worry lol
Hats off to whoever is courageous enough to read our filters and write a decent case afterwards
Yesterday I said I was going to re-read DF, but I'm too lazy and a bit restrained on time to do so. If TT could explain why he thinks his posts are mafia, it would be lovely.
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On November 06 2016 21:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:Ah, shit. Forgot to add the context. Those are Rels' posts / posts about Rels that are reasons to town-read him. If you don't understand why I included one of the quotes, ask away. Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 12:02 darthfoley wrote:On November 06 2016 11:25 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 22:57 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Calix
Town doesn't ignore other members of the town. I'm ignoring exactly 100% of these pushes between you and Calix. Honestly you two seem to get so emotionally worked up over how you read each other I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. ... You guys might actually make an amazing scum team. Someone remind me to tinfoil the shit out of a NU/Calix scumteam if we get much further into this without a mafia lynch. This is also my tinfoil worry lol Hats off to whoever is courageous enough to read our filters and write a decent case afterwards Yesterday I said I was going to re-read DF, but I'm too lazy and a bit restrained on time to do so. If TT could explain why he thinks his posts are mafia, it would be lovely.
That's why I lost to Shapelog last newbie game TT. Hopefully Rels and Skynx and Foreman will exist today
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On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c: Sure I think Foreman is most town to me. My pyramid thing would go something like this TownForeman NU, Calix, Skynx Rels mahrgell, ExO, TT MafiaI have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things. Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock
wait...
Why the fuck did Foreman as most town? Do you still TR him?
Why did you have Skynx as town?
Why would you explain your null read on Rels (who hadn't posted) but not your other reads?
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