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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:28 GMT
#1221
On November 07 2016 00:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:
On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c:


Sure

I think Foreman is most town to me.

My pyramid thing would go something like this

Town
Foreman
NU, Calix, Skynx
Rels
mahrgell, ExO, TT
Mafia

I have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things.

Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock

wait...

Why the fuck did Foreman as most town? Do you still TR him?

Why did you have Skynx as town?

Why would you explain your null read on Rels (who hadn't posted) but not your other reads?


I had Foreman as most town because it was early game and I liked his tone and attitude for town. If you found that post, you surely could've found this post of me explaining exactly what you're asking me now.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 04 2016 04:01 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:
On November 04 2016 02:48 darthfoley wrote:
I'd also appreciate Foreman's reads when he gets a chance


Sure, as soon as you explain your read of me, which was given before you know my reads of everyone else.


So the majority of my read on you is based off of your interactions with mahrgell. Although nothing you've done has screamed uber town, small things like you not really giving a shit about how people view your playstyle leads me to believe that you're playing your own style and not trying to conform to "please" other towns. Basically the antithesis of buddying.

I liked this post specifically

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 23:59 Foreman wrote:
On November 03 2016 21:42 mahrgell wrote:
. Scum has usually 2 options:
a) make up stuff
b) reinforce shitty assumptions by townies
Meanwhile a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me. In the end, I have to judge if the different judgements made by other players are due to different character or due to hidden agenda.


This is terribad. So any townie that you disagree with is scummy to you?

Because like, two town can't see the same thing and have completely different thoughts about the same situation
, what with the fact that everybody has identical environmental factors and upbringing, amirite?

Oh wait...


This is a bit of a segue, but mahrgell says a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me

So naturally, you'd think he would scum read Rels, after all...

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 23:41 mahrgell wrote:
About Rels. I agree with basically none of his reads, pretty apparent with his 3 top town being my top scum. But there is one thing you can't blame him for: Trying to blend in. I would love to see him explaining his controversial reads.

Mainly I'm interested in:
- why does he town NU
- why does he town Foreman - I can see people not agreeing my concerns regarding foreman, but seriously, what has he done to make him a townread???)
- what makes foley scummy? - "hates post" okay... Tell me more.

Share your thought process. I haven't seen any reasoning on those reads and admit they don't make sense to me.


and eventually, in his last large post, claims that he views Rels neutrally. Which doesn't make sense considering his prescribed stance from earlier. This scum read of mine of mahrgell helps me consider you to be town.

Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx?



He seemed like he was aware of potential buddying and I also thought his questioning of mahrgell, who at the time was my most scummy, was good.

Putting Skynx town on my list was pretty shallow considering the only reason I had him there was because he agreed with me on Ticktock. I hadn't realized at that point the power of distancing in a 9 man game so even if TT was mafia I shouldn't have read Skynx as such town. He was my fourth most town on that list as town lean so it wasn't like I was gung-ho about it.

Not sure why I talked about Rels tbh, but you're mischaracterizing my play if you say I hadn't explained my Foreman read. I even explained it TO HIM in the thread.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 06 2016 16:29 GMT
#1222
I was tilted after the lynch, its better now. Sorry exo for the insults.
I had a busy weekend, will be here in a few hours
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:30 GMT
#1223
Also ##Vote: Skynx

Can those voting Foreman explain why you're all Foreman > Skynx in this situation? The case on Skynx is much stronger
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:31 GMT
#1224
On November 07 2016 01:28 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 00:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:
On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c:


Sure

I think Foreman is most town to me.

My pyramid thing would go something like this

Town
Foreman
NU, Calix, Skynx
Rels
mahrgell, ExO, TT
Mafia

I have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things.

Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock

wait...

Why the fuck did Foreman as most town? Do you still TR him?

Why did you have Skynx as town?

Why would you explain your null read on Rels (who hadn't posted) but not your other reads?


I had Foreman as most town because it was early game and I liked his tone and attitude for town. If you found that post, you surely could've found this post of me explaining exactly what you're asking me now.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 04 2016 04:01 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:
On November 04 2016 02:48 darthfoley wrote:
I'd also appreciate Foreman's reads when he gets a chance


Sure, as soon as you explain your read of me, which was given before you know my reads of everyone else.


So the majority of my read on you is based off of your interactions with mahrgell. Although nothing you've done has screamed uber town, small things like you not really giving a shit about how people view your playstyle leads me to believe that you're playing your own style and not trying to conform to "please" other towns. Basically the antithesis of buddying.

I liked this post specifically

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 23:59 Foreman wrote:
On November 03 2016 21:42 mahrgell wrote:
. Scum has usually 2 options:
a) make up stuff
b) reinforce shitty assumptions by townies
Meanwhile a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me. In the end, I have to judge if the different judgements made by other players are due to different character or due to hidden agenda.


This is terribad. So any townie that you disagree with is scummy to you?

Because like, two town can't see the same thing and have completely different thoughts about the same situation
, what with the fact that everybody has identical environmental factors and upbringing, amirite?

Oh wait...


This is a bit of a segue, but mahrgell says a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me

So naturally, you'd think he would scum read Rels, after all...

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 23:41 mahrgell wrote:
About Rels. I agree with basically none of his reads, pretty apparent with his 3 top town being my top scum. But there is one thing you can't blame him for: Trying to blend in. I would love to see him explaining his controversial reads.

Mainly I'm interested in:
- why does he town NU
- why does he town Foreman - I can see people not agreeing my concerns regarding foreman, but seriously, what has he done to make him a townread???)
- what makes foley scummy? - "hates post" okay... Tell me more.

Share your thought process. I haven't seen any reasoning on those reads and admit they don't make sense to me.


and eventually, in his last large post, claims that he views Rels neutrally. Which doesn't make sense considering his prescribed stance from earlier. This scum read of mine of mahrgell helps me consider you to be town.

Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx?



He seemed like he was aware of potential buddying and I also thought his questioning of mahrgell, who at the time was my most scummy, was good.

Putting Skynx town on my list was pretty shallow considering the only reason I had him there was because he agreed with me on Ticktock. I hadn't realized at that point the power of distancing in a 9 man game so even if TT was mafia I shouldn't have read Skynx as such town. He was my fourth most town on that list as town lean so it wasn't like I was gung-ho about it.

Not sure why I talked about Rels tbh, but you're mischaracterizing my play if you say I hadn't explained my Foreman read. I even explained it TO HIM in the thread.


EBWOP: I shouldn't have read Skynx as such*
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 06 2016 16:32 GMT
#1225
On November 07 2016 01:30 darthfoley wrote:
Also ##Vote: Skynx

Can those voting Foreman explain why you're all Foreman > Skynx in this situation? The case on Skynx is much stronger


I'm basically voting him over Skynx because that was the one read that NU/ TT and myself could agree on. TT still seems to have some doubts with regards to Skynx due to NK WIFOM/ doubts over wherever scum!Skynx would be so blatant/ not trusting you, etc.

Don't you think that Skynx/ Foreman is the scum team though? I think it's Foreman and Skynx/ Rels although given the sheer volume of posts against Skynx, looks like a shoe-in.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:40 GMT
#1226
On November 07 2016 01:32 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 01:30 darthfoley wrote:
Also ##Vote: Skynx

Can those voting Foreman explain why you're all Foreman > Skynx in this situation? The case on Skynx is much stronger


I'm basically voting him over Skynx because that was the one read that NU/ TT and myself could agree on. TT still seems to have some doubts with regards to Skynx due to NK WIFOM/ doubts over wherever scum!Skynx would be so blatant/ not trusting you, etc.

Don't you think that Skynx/ Foreman is the scum team though? I think it's Foreman and Skynx/ Rels although given the sheer volume of posts against Skynx, looks like a shoe-in.


Yea, I believe Skynx/Foreman is the most likely duo and I believe any potential blue check type role would be advised to check one of them who isn't lynched. Skynx/Rels we've discussed would make less sense, I believe? Rels/Foreman? Maybe.

Also, can you and/or NU briefly explain or point me to a post regarding why you're so confident in TT being town? I understand you have this three person town circle going on, but why TT?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 06 2016 16:44 GMT
#1227
On November 07 2016 01:40 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 01:32 Calix wrote:
On November 07 2016 01:30 darthfoley wrote:
Also ##Vote: Skynx

Can those voting Foreman explain why you're all Foreman > Skynx in this situation? The case on Skynx is much stronger


I'm basically voting him over Skynx because that was the one read that NU/ TT and myself could agree on. TT still seems to have some doubts with regards to Skynx due to NK WIFOM/ doubts over wherever scum!Skynx would be so blatant/ not trusting you, etc.

Don't you think that Skynx/ Foreman is the scum team though? I think it's Foreman and Skynx/ Rels although given the sheer volume of posts against Skynx, looks like a shoe-in.


Yea, I believe Skynx/Foreman is the most likely duo and I believe any potential blue check type role would be advised to check one of them who isn't lynched. Skynx/Rels we've discussed would make less sense, I believe? Rels/Foreman? Maybe.

Also, can you and/or NU briefly explain or point me to a post regarding why you're so confident in TT being town? I understand you have this three person town circle going on, but why TT?


The reason I asked was because if you think it's Skynx/ Foreman then it doesn't particularly matter which one dies first. And you yourself agree that Skynx/ Rels doesn't make sense so voting for the person who is mafia in the most worlds is a good move.

Because TT's play has been congruent and every time I try reading his filter as if he's mafia I end up having to make the facts fit my conclusion and every single case against him (including my own) has been a stretch.

(also I looked up his scum games. Completely different persona and his play is less shitty in this game so unless he has drastically upped his game then he is likely town)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:47 GMT
#1228
Fair enough ##Vote: Foreman
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 16:47 GMT
#1229
##Vote: Foreman
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 06 2016 16:53 GMT
#1230
I kind of want to lynch Skynx first because I have 0 respect for his play.

Serious question: Is there a way to make this website run quicker? I have tried clearing my caches and cookies, and using AdBlock. Nothing works, and the sluggishness of this site is infuriating.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 17:00 GMT
#1231
Adding to the tech question, does anyone else experience your typing cursor disappear in the middle of a post and you have to manually click back on the spot you were typing from? This happens to me multiple times per post and it is especially frustrating if i'm in the middle of a long case post etc. It only happens to me on this site so idk
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 06 2016 17:04 GMT
#1232
On November 07 2016 02:00 darthfoley wrote:
Adding to the tech question, does anyone else experience your typing cursor disappear in the middle of a post and you have to manually click back on the spot you were typing from? This happens to me multiple times per post and it is especially frustrating if i'm in the middle of a long case post etc. It only happens to me on this site so idk

Yes, it does that to me too, only on this website. Often I cannot highlight the text using my mouse and cursor and have to resort to CTRL+A to complete the task.

My main issue with this site is that the pages often are "Not responding" and that there is a 5 seconds delay between what I type on my keyboard and what appears on screen.

fuck this site and fuck skynx
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 18:18:57
November 06 2016 18:00 GMT
#1233
Vote Count

Foreman (4) : NeverUnlucky, Calix, Tictock, darthfoley
Rels (0) : Calix (X)
Skynx (0) : darthfoley (X)

Not voting (3) : Foreman, Rels, Skynx

Currently, Foreman is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Monday, Nov 07 5:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 24 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.



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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 06 2016 19:22 GMT
#1234
Well there is nothing really new going on here and I'm going to be out a good chunk of today anyways. Will make some time later this evening or tomorrow morning though.

It's quite possible my WIFOM about Skynx is just that and this is actually as easy as Foreman/Skynx. It's really tempting to think that because of their lack of, well anything today.

Also I'd like to take a second and give some mad props to Cake's hosting. Not only has she been including links to everyone's vote and unvote in each VC but now reminding people about DST changes?
[image loading]
I can take that responsibility.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 06 2016 19:44 GMT
#1235
On November 07 2016 04:22 Tictock wrote:
Well there is nothing really new going on here and I'm going to be out a good chunk of today anyways. Will make some time later this evening or tomorrow morning though.

It's quite possible my WIFOM about Skynx is just that and this is actually as easy as Foreman/Skynx. It's really tempting to think that because of their lack of, well anything today.

Also I'd like to take a second and give some mad props to Cake's hosting. Not only has she been including links to everyone's vote and unvote in each VC but now reminding people about DST changes?
[image loading]

On November 06 2016 21:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:If TT could explain why he thinks his posts are mafia, it would be lovely.


On November 07 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I kind of want to lynch Skynx first because I have 0 respect for his play.

And also I was the only one to scum-read Foreman on day 1. I find it strange that everyone now scum-reads him and is willing to vote him when we have not written a case against him and he has not posted since. I don't know how everyone's read flipped so easily.

Calix says we're votin' him because TT is not sure of Skynx being mafia. That's not entirely true. TT has Skynx in his poe pool, but he is unsure who his teammate would be between rels and foreman based on interactions.

Meh, I still think Foreman is mafmaf, so not sure myself why I'm complaining.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 06 2016 21:37 GMT
#1236
Sorry guys, had no internet at all for the entire time. I'll catchup first then post cases.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 06 2016 22:06 GMT
#1237
the inactivity has been depressing
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 06 2016 22:08 GMT
#1238
Agreed. This activity is more of a mood-killer than depression.

Hopefully Rels/ Skynx will ACTUALLY POST NOW and this game will become a game again.

At least we have the town circle thing. That's pretty much the only thing that's been useful about Day 2 so far.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 06 2016 22:09 GMT
#1239
On November 07 2016 07:06 darthfoley wrote:
the inactivity has been depressing

Mhhm.

230 thread views since I last posted, and only 2 new posts. Y'all are a bunch o' lurkers.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 06 2016 22:11 GMT
#1240
On November 07 2016 07:08 Calix wrote:
Agreed. This activity is more of a mood-killer than depression.

Hopefully Rels/ Skynx will ACTUALLY POST NOW and this game will become a game again.

At least we have the town circle thing. That's pretty much the only thing that's been useful about Day 2 so far.

This town circle was formed day 1 though.

So, uh, what does DF being removed from your 'shit list' mean? ie what is your read on him?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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