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On December 08 2016 03:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Like I'm getting so frustrated with TT since he has the same reads as me day 1. Your day 2 case doesn't make any sense, and you refused to address it, and day 3 again you have the same reads as me. All throughout you tunnel me relentlessly. I just don't know man.
I honestly don't care if our reads match up or not. That has nothing to do with how I find mafia. I look for motivations in posting and thought put into the game.
I feel like you never have much thought put into your reads and have generally just followed thread sentiment. You mostly post questions to others without giving your own thinking.
Me being on your case most of the game is pretty much why I have the nickname tunneltock.
Once I'm confirmed Town I'm pushing you all day as well kus I don't think Onegu votes with his scumbuddies D1 and D3 and passes up the chance to bus NU D1.
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On December 08 2016 04:57 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2016 04:08 darthfoley wrote:
Who do you think Rels should rb ec? rels is a god, TT seems like the best choice
Yet last night you said I basically had to be Town.
On December 07 2016 12:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Town has time to lynch both of us right? So this can't be your path to victory. I dunno I don't think you can be mafia. Unless you think that you can makes some crazy save after all the shit you've thrown at me since day 1. So unless Onegu is maf I'm really confused right now.
Why am I the only one who sees how scummy Emp is?
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Wow the lot of you are fucking sheep.
I've changed my mind and I slept on it to be sure.
We are lynching HF today boys.
##Vote: Holyflare
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On December 08 2016 07:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2016 07:00 mahrgell wrote:
Even mods lost the will to play... so its not TT. Show nested quote +On December 08 2016 07:01 mahrgell wrote:
oh, modpost... Sorry TT, but I would have prefered you to be scum. Slam dunk, gg
First off this is bullshit.
Second off does Emp really have it in him to keep playing this out? Probably not from how things have been going.
Thirdly why has HF been constantly bringing suspicion on people over so little? He was calling me robotic and other buzz words yesterday, pushed Darth at night with nothing but paranoia, and now says he wants to lynch Gell over 2 posts that never make him mafia.
HF has literally been taking any and ever opportunity to break apart any Town circle forming this game.
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HF also stood the most to gain from SL being lynched. Not only did HF push Rels into pushing SL but he came up with the whole " SL never carries KP" thing to "confirm" himself.
I bought into that at first but while arguing with Emp last night it's not so far fetched that SL carried KP. Risky? Yea a little bit, but only if JK decides to JK SL and at that point most people were going with the impression that SL was Town. In short it is totally possible for HF to be scum with SL, even if he argues it's super unlikely it is still possible.
I'm not going to post a buch of shit from HF's filter but take a look at a few places in the game like N2 HF goes off bringing random accusations against a fair few people. He did the same last night and now today is pushing Gell for basically nothing and acts like the stuff between me and Emp was meaningless last night.
EoD1 was also super weird for HF as he voted and argued with Rels while telling people to vote NU. I mentioned before that that smells a bit like underhanded mafia play to me with a vote that weakened the NU wagon yet gets some cred for telling people to vote NU anyway.
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I'm honestly disgusted to see so many of you just go along with this inane push on Gell and not question things yourselves.
I think it's time for you all to Man up and take over the game for yourselves. Let's make sure HF doesn't coast into a win as mafia here and lynch him today.
If I'm wrong then it will be up to the rest of you to actually solve this game, but I know you all can do it.
Really ask yourselves if you trust HF, and more importantly are you willing to loose the game to him?
I say Nah! It is time for the older players to roll out and for you guys to actually find the balls to stand against HF rather than sheep him with no thought.
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On December 08 2016 09:33 darthfoley wrote:
If this is what the cool kids are doing
##Vote: mahrgell
This is just a pitiful excuse of a statement when Town is in MyLo.
I know I'm throwing names around and being a bit mean, but goddam is it a sad state of fucking affairs if this is how Town is playing this game out.
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On December 02 2016 00:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 23:52 mahrgell wrote:
Just read HF:
Is he always such a tunnel dweller? He spends the first 36 hours with nobody except me, then goes on with focusing on Rels entirely. There is like one comment on DF, and a 2 post conversation with Koshi in his filter.
All questions outside of that are blocked with excuses of him being too lazy to do that.
Like his entire play can be seen as a super tunnely townie, or a scum player who uses the tunnel excuse to never talk about anything else.
I guess he is on my Neut-pile too.
Gimme vig, and I will shoot him for his name butchery though. If you have the same feelings D3, lynch him with everything you got and don't talk to him. Just lynch him. Gather your townie friends and lynch him. atm it is too early to judge. He is a bit underwhelming but mafia might need to shoot him anyway.
If you all won't listen to one confirmed town then maybe the power of 2 can ensure this gets done.
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On December 08 2016 14:51 emperorchampion wrote:
Also TT: we have 2 lynches left
Yea I know. I guess I misused mylo but that is kind of my point.
Honestly it's a respect lynch in some ways, we lynch HF because it's totally possible he is mafia and SL faleclaiming was epic plays to give HF an excuse to be "confirmed" and explain why he hasn't been NK'd.
I'm obviously the kill tonight so if we don't lynch HF now he is going to LyLo and you guys are clearly not catching a mafia!HF in lylo.
I also do think HF has been fearmongering quite a bit this game. I glanced at a few pages of his filter and almost every page has slights at variuse people. He has almost never tried to find solid reasons why anyone is Town and is rather constantly bringing people into question.
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No tomorrow is LyLo.
If we lynch 2 Town the game is over.
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On December 08 2016 15:04 emperorchampion wrote:
Yeah this is the remaining list, so 1 lynch, then 1 nk, so 4 left. So actually mylo afterwards?
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
6. darthfoley
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion
12. Tictock
Just to be totally clear I am proposing we lynch HF today to make sure he is not going to coast this game as mafia off a sacrifice from SL.
I die tonight since Rels confirmed me Town.
This leaves the 4 of you going into LyLo.
Emp
Darth
Gell
Gu
I trust that if HF does flip Town then the 3 remind Town in that pool can vet out the last mafia.
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On December 07 2016 20:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Public Announcement
I have been asked whether Mafia can hold their shot, and whether town can no-lynch.
Mafia can not hold their shot. Town can not no-lynch.
We can't no lynch. 4 players is LyLo.
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On December 09 2016 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Wanna see what TT Onegu and emp think
TBH I'm not really going to be able to post for a fair few hours. Didn't have time before work and just trying to stay up with reading on my breaks.
Just glad to see some solid conversation going now.
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Ok I got a minute so couple of things.
Gell, why do you call your post at start of day a joke?
I could see you make that post as Town, but I didn't respond to HF last night as I wanted to see your response. Calling it a joke feels weird to me and doesn't match what I would expect a town to be thinking when he makes those posts.
On December 08 2016 16:25 Holyflare wrote:
If you can explain to me how it's bull shit and how those posts make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER then maybe you'll have a point.
"maybe you'll have a point"
Kind of an odd statement when you were super adiment about SL's flip confirming you Town before.
I'll sink in some time tonight and have off tomorrow so will dig into this game more then.
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On December 09 2016 07:21 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2016 07:04 Tictock wrote:
Ok I got a minute so couple of things.
Gell, why do you call your post at start of day a joke?
I could see you make that post as Town, but I didn't respond to HF last night as I wanted to see your response. Calling it a joke feels weird to me and doesn't match what I would expect a town to be thinking when he makes those posts.
I called it a joke, because it was meant as one... Do you want me to make up some weird story how I made this post? And I think I explained enough what my thinking was at that time. You want me to repeat it again?
No.
The problem I have with you calling it a joke is very similar to the point I made about SL's reaction to Rels' claim. He claimed he was angry Rels claimed before he could retract but then wanted to make some play off of it. His actions did not match with what he claimed was going on in his head.
Similarly you saying those posts were jokes is weird because I don't understand how that would be a moment when you felt like joking. Like a couple people mentioned I think most people would be waiting for a possible Endgame post even if it was late (which it wasn't). You on the other hand claim that you were waiting and watching the clock and somehow decided that it was a good time to crack a joke about the mods and assume I wasn't mafia.
Now I could see someone waiting at that time and think "oh mod post is late, guess they are working out actions and must mean the game is going on" or something and make that post, but that is a serious thought.
So it's weird to me that you would decided to make a joke for nearly the first time all game at that moment. I also am leery about you calling it a joke because that implies it was just a silly comment that meant nothing, when clearly you were very seriously concluding that I was Town there. Also your responses to HF calling you scum there felt a bit odd. Like I don't think I've seen you so flippant or brief in your posting before.
I called HF's point bullshit kus I saw the towny perpestive I mentioned before and wasn't sure what motive scum would have to post something like that. Actually that is still an issue, I'm not sure why you, as scum, would make a post like that before the flip.
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The big thing that gives me pause about a possible scum!Gell is that he is so adamant about HF being Town today.
He even pointed out a very possible play for mafia with SL carrying KP on N3 (he keeps calling it N2 erroneously, in case that was confusing anyone). SL might have carried KP in case he got JK'd because he could then claim that the real JK stopped mafia from killing him and could argue that he was confirmed town. Gell is right it would have given Town a lynch but it would have bought SL several days before the question of why he hadn't been NK'd came up.
It is an odd thing for a scum!Gell to do to backup my point about SL possibly carrying KP (and thus nullify HF's argument about being practically confirmed) but also still use that same idea to keep HF as Town in his reads.
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I'm also finding myself having to admit that there are towny points in HF's favor but I'm still having a hard time not being paranoid about him possibly being scum.
I'm also fairly confident if my and HF's roles were reversed he'd be pushing exactly the same thing I am. After all nobody was willing to really consider me Town regardless of my posts the past few days until Rels made me confirmed.
Any ways, that is kinda where my head is at right now. I just got home though so I will reread stuff and take a look at filters in a couple of hours. Like I said I have the day off tomorrow so will be putting in work before EoD.
Right now I'm still not seeing a problem with making a safety lynch on HF and making him give us his best guess for the last scum before then so if he is Town you guys can use that to go on tomorrow and obviously I will do the same at Night.
It's not the exciting Yolo, "I scumread this guy let's get him" play, but I think it's a safe play.
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Reread Gells posts from today. Don't think he is mafia.
I can reasonably understand where he was coming from in those posts and I see no reason for a scum!Gell to be itching to make a post that he wouldn't wait for the daypost.
Looking back a bit further Gell's lead off with Emp is in perfect line with his PoE being down to Me and Emp. There are also too many posts from Gell that I rather like. He's obstinant about his reads and is following a super clear path to clear the game.
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Looking over Darth's posts today I don't get quite as strong a read on him.
He seems to just go back and forth between sheeping HF to sheeping me and then to sheeping Gell. All of which is kinda shit IMO kus it's such an easy ride to just go with the flow at this point. However, I don't feel like Darth is just in for the ride here.
I will do another post later expanding on Darths play over the game, but I'm still pretty inclined to to townread the guy. One big thing is that SL tried to push Darth fairly hard D2 in a way that really looked like Mafia on Town.
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On December 09 2016 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Zzzz what a waste of time. We just lynch emp here because when it's come down to it he's still produced 0 content today and when he's forced to make a read he's just copied what I said about darth abd nahr vs sl
Always bringing everything others do down.
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