On October 21 2016 13:03 ritoky wrote: give a read on me
Aww Rit (initially read this as a cry for attn)
Honestly I was thinking you were solid town until I saw you put HF (and a few others, but w/e) into your town list. Given that HF has been pushing you for a pretty silly meta-reason and you basically gave no reaction to that nor did you try to engage HF about it feels really off to me.
Like if you are town then either HF is scum trying to lynch you so you push back, or you think he is mistaken town and try to talk to him. Instead you basically ignored HF and give him an easy townread?
On October 21 2016 20:57 Tictock wrote: YAY I'm caught up!
Still think ptmc is a solid lynch, but Vivax is pretty good too. Actually Vivax might be better kus he clearly picked Rels due to him only having one post which means he's at least put some effort into reading the game but that's all he's got is "lynch Rels" and easy townreads.
Speaking of Rels... not sure what to do with him. He is a pretty capable player as either alignment so him making that one throwaway post is pretty odd. Was gunna say something about expecting him to replace out if he was town and has no time to play, but then I realized that might be even more true if he was scum... Yea idk what I want to do with his slot.
Still think the stuff between Rit and HF is weird. Besides the stuff I said about Rit earlier I'm pretty inclined to townread him though, whereas nothing I've seen from HF makes me think he is town. Which brings me back to Kurumi (I think I spelled his name right) and his weird hard-on for HF. I'm not sure scum makes all those wierd list posts though.
Still want to review Iam. Everything I've seen from him is well within standard scum play imo and despite liking his posting more as time goes on I can't shake my initial impression.
LT is another person I'm considering as scum. I don't think he's really said anything other than "fuck the people I don't know" to which I respond "well fuck you too"
Oh and Koshi, can't forget Koshi. I'm really far from townreading Koshi i just want to lynch other people more... which honestly probably means Koshi is scum. Like that feeling is pretty much exactly why he's skated by his last few scum games.
My townreads were: Iamp, ritoky among these. And I just don't see TT having them as easy townreads like he claims mine were. Which is to prove further that his reason to suspect me is construed.
I pretty clearly meant "easy townreads" as in you dropped a bunch of name without anything to back it up. My scumread on you was that you clearly had some notion of what was going on in the game (Rels had made one post so was "the worst player") yet you had nothing to say. That's a pretty clear disconnect imo.
Glanced at one post from HF about me (was quoted on the same page as that quote from Vivax) not sure if it's "the case" but it looks like a shit ton of misrepresentation of what I've done/said thus far. Like my last post on pg 63-64 was pretty clear that I didn't want to lynch ptmc anymore.
Honestly HF's case looks like the same sort of drivil he pushed me for when he was scum a few games ago with Palmar and Koshi. Mostly just says he disagrees or thinks differently from me and then misrepresents half of what I've said.
Like my last post on pg 63-64 was pretty clear that I didn't want to lynch ptmc anymore.
irrelevant, it took a giant towny list post for you to "change your mind" but your changing your mind was MASSIVE hedging, you didn't even WANT to commit to a read on him you just hedged like crazy fuck and said "Oh well we'll see later".
Not at all, and this is exactly what I meant with misrepresenting shit I've said.
[QUOTE]On October 21 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote: [QUOTE]On October 21 2016 21:19 ptmc wrote: This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game. The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, I'm not sure how I forgot you were in that game. Guess it's just been awhile.
Humm, you were a pretty easy townread in that game but not really here. Still I guess the stuff that bugged me early on makes a bit more sense now.
I'll look at your list post again later in some detail, but def don't want to lynch you anymore.
I think that list post shows you are making some decent effort and I recall you doing something like it in the last game too. Even without that I'm pretty confident you'll be really easy to read given a bit more time.[/QUOTE]
Notice how I ended with conclusions? Sure it's not "Oh of course, silly me he's town" but it's not hedging at all.
Fuck it, I don't have time. I was gunna attack HF anyways, just gunna drop a vote on him and submit actions.
I'll read what I can and make a post before deadline. More than likely though just go back to my post where I talked about the people I'm sus of, take out ptmc, and look at those people.
I'm sure there is mafia in Iam, Rit, and HF. If I'm right about there being more than one scum team it's possible they all are. Don't be fooled by basic level participation, look for actual thought that makes sense. My gut says Rit is the most likely town of the 3.
Never lynch these people: 7 sicklucker 8 beentheredonethat 9 ExO_ 13 Bill Murray 14 Acrofales 20 Hopeless1der (kinda Yolo read on this one) 21 Dandel Ion 22 WaveofShadow 23 GlowingBear (also a bit Yolo, but I do think he is town)
Also these guys are probably town but I'm not sure 17 ptmc 18 Kurumi
Lynch these guys 3 Vivax 4 Holyflare 15 Koshi (probably) 24 Lord Tolkien 6 iamperfection
I've gone back and forth on iam, I think the first point I made on him is pretty strong actually and nothing since has been much more than surface level shit. Could be wrong, but he was almost as much of an ass to me as HF so lynch with fire.
On October 22 2016 05:30 beentheredonethat wrote: Let's shennanie onto HamazuraXTakitsubo (Taco Bell guy)
He scumreads Kurumi and Lunatic which at the point he does it is exactly what people currently are all about. He never followed up on Hopeless although he "gave him scum vibes". He's been doing a lot of role guessing ("TPro", "looks like a jester") which looks like a role hunting mindset. Wants to policy lynch Dandel for shitposting but in the end says he's got a "neutral" stance towards him.
Then, he scumreads sicklucker for reaons that HF brought up but also doesn't follow up. Settles down, long story short, on Kurumi and Lunatic which is boring and following thread sentiment.
He has 2 pages of filter and has voted so he's likely to not get replaced today. I think we should shennanie here.
##unvote ##vote HamazuraXTakitsubo
Nah don't lynch that guy, I think he's pretty likely to be town.
Koshi or Vivax are better shenannies since nobody ever has the balls to lynch HF, who is pretty likely ot be mafia imo.
On October 22 2016 05:41 Vivax wrote: TT why did you treat my vote on Rels as if it was serious?
I literally chose a random guy with the same amount of filter as me to be even more ridiculous and your argument was that I read the thread and yet did nothing.
I read a bit of thread this morning, enough to form the townreads that followed in the actual serious post.
So I don't see your argument. It was that I only formed townreads (which you didn't inquire about), and that I voted Rels. What is your argument now?
You make 2 posts well over halfway through the phase, why should I just assume they are jokes?
My argument was exactly that you had enough knowledge of the game to pickout Rels but had nothing else to comment on.
On October 22 2016 05:54 Bill Murray wrote: I called tictock out when he had 1 post ... then he instantly came into the thread and posted within an hour of me calling him out. People defended him so I backed off , but I never wanted to back off. I said it was meta , well no. He posted different than I remember
I've been fooled by this line of thought before too. It's the evils of confirm bias.
On October 22 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote: well ticktock is dead rip you were nice. I kind of expect you to play nice with me if your mafia tho so have expecting a mafia flip