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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 05 2016 02:47 GMT
#6
Humm having a Health mechanic gives me flashbacks to Mafia All-Stars...

Well as long as this game doesn't have Elves that can cross an entire map in a single night.

/in
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 20 2016 03:09 GMT
#394
Well I was sorta questioning if I had the energy tonight to get going on this...

Looking over my PM I can tell that I do not. Just gunna pass out and leave this for the morning.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 00:28 GMT
#1015
Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.

Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.

I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.

It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.

Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.

So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.

Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.

#promisesofthingstocome
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 00:44 GMT
#1019
On October 20 2016 09:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
i'm comfortable omgus'ing ritoky atm.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
any try hards here ?

What do you think do we need to coordinate like a professional dota team or should this be like a regular pub with everyone doing their own thing?

I'd be inclined towards advertising defensives only, but aside from that I dont think telling mafia where we're aiming is a good thing. We cant claim specific abilities so trying to coordinate is liable to leave us even more clueless. Just an all around bad time if we go down that road imo.


This might be the first post that give me distinct townfeels. Kinda joke fighting with Rit and I like his mindset in regards to iam's question.

Also a good time to point out that iam's posts up to this point give me the heebies, though I'm interested to see if the trend continues and he also gives me the geebies. More on that as it develops.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 01:01 GMT
#1027
Ok only got to pg 17 thus far, but I'm feeling iam is a decent early scum read.

He started off serious, seemed like maybe he was trying to talk through what the best way to play was and even pushed GB about it a bit. I kinda liked the start, but notice he quickly left the question open for others to fill in.

Once there were people around and chatting his direction dissapears and he's just chatting. Seems pretty clear he isn't actually interested in getting town to organize as he both leaves it open if thats even the best strat and drops the thought as soon as people start chatting about other stuff.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 01:57 GMT
#1058
On October 20 2016 10:46 ExO_ wrote:
Hello all. I hate day 1 but I'll be here. I'm ready for all the baseless analysis that always goes on. I have not really read the thread yet, but the first thing I notice is:

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.

Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k?


For those that aren't aware he's referencing the hero dazzle, who has an ability called shadow wave. Dazzle also has an ability called shadow grave, which prevents people from dying. So to anybody who's vaguely familiar with dota, he's basically coming out immediately and claiming some form of doctor.

I don't think the doc should come in and announce themselves right away. This looks hella scummy to me.



I'm really confused by this. Him really vuagly hinting that he might be a protective role is scummy, but you straight out saying he is claiming doc here and thus outing him to everyone is.... ?

Actually I really doubt scum posts something like this, Exo is prob town. I'm gunna enjoy looking for scum in the reactions to this post though...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:09 GMT
#1059
Oh no I just realized Hopeless is one of my Bnet friends... I can't make excuses and then go play WoW this game.

It's a shame really...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:17 GMT
#1060
On October 20 2016 12:09 Tictock wrote:
Well I was sorta questioning if I had the energy tonight to get going on this...

Looking over my PM I can tell that I do not. Just gunna pass out and leave this for the morning.


Heh, caught up to this post. Glad I didn't bother reading this TvT shitshow last night.

Really doubt any of Exo, Hopeless, or Wave are scum based on their arguing.

Iam still most likely scum.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:25 GMT
#1061
On October 20 2016 12:46 Bill Murray wrote:
ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells

1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia
2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town

the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support
dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest
##Vote: WaveofShadow


I kinda like this post.

Also glad to see you back BM, I felt pretty bad about how our last game went. Can't do much against a stubborn Rayn being smooth talked by a scum!Rels though...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:38 GMT
#1063
On October 20 2016 16:05 Holyflare wrote:
##vote ritoky

The gif to try hard ratio is askew.


This is super weak, not like I have high expectations for HF though...

Still, this is REALLY weak.

Also I rather disagree.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:42 GMT
#1064
On October 20 2016 17:23 ptmc wrote:
I agree with that, yes. Imo, he should just have stuck with his claim and it might have been useful to town (if he is town). Like this, it definitely doesn't help town. I'm not sure if your idea of him wanting to use the doctor claim late game really was his reasoning, but I fail to see a good reasoning anyhow.

## Vote WaveofShadow


Dislike this post.

Way too passive, doesn't seem to have an opinion of his own.

Iam, HF, ptmc

Starting to get a good slew of scum reads.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 02:53 GMT
#1069
Ok, @ pg 24 now but time to take a break from reading.

Kinda dislike Dandel's return on pg 23 but not sure I want to add him to my list.

Oh I'm also liking this Acro dude. I said I wasn't going to focus on townreads but I'm feeling pretty good about the few I'm getting so far.

In regards to the whole WoS claiming thing... idk it all feels overblown to me. I think he started making the other "claims" kinda as a joke after Exo made his entrance. I guess it's possible he's scum, but I'm not really seeing it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 04:14 GMT
#1124
On October 20 2016 19:35 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.

#Vote Koshi

Lol. Ignores 15 pages of thread. Votes with throwaway justification. You scum bro?


Wonder why this caught your attn but HF's post didn't...

On October 20 2016 16:05 Holyflare wrote:
##vote ritoky

The gif to try hard ratio is askew.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 04:18 GMT
#1125
On October 20 2016 20:06 Acrofales wrote:
My spreadsheet has too many lurkers. My favourites for lynching:

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 16:05 Holyflare wrote:
##vote ritoky

The gif to try hard ratio is askew.


Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.

#Vote Koshi



And a general policy lynch for:

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 23:13 Vivax wrote:
/in


Nevermind.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 07:18 GMT
#1184
Ok got a bit distracted playing WoW (had to get some mythic+ runs in). Going to make some coffee and finish reading this sucker.

Been reading a bit when I had the chance so up to pg 36 at this point. Not much new though, way too much shit posting going on.

Yea I'm looking at you Dandel... Most of your posts looks like you are shit posting for the hell of it. Smells like scum playing the "I'm too scummy to be scum" card imo.

Need to catchup and possibly filter a few people like Koshi before I can feel like I have much of any read on them. I like the pressure BTDT is trying to build though.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 07:21 GMT
#1185
On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:32 Kurumi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:26 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:25 Kurumi wrote:
[quote]

ill block it then

Why would you block it. What possible reason could you have.


I don't. You don't, so we're even.

Are you trying to trigger me. Holyflare not completely trash player excited to play pre not playing worth killing


You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one.

Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum.

Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that.


You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person.

pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not?


1) I didn't know that.
2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that.
3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited.

i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't)
if he doesnt thats way better
if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him

i dont see the downside tbh

if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy


Bah I should stop posting till I've caught up, I hate having to go back on stuff I've just posted...

This is actually a pretty good post from Dandel.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 07:46 GMT
#1186
On October 21 2016 00:57 sicklucker wrote:
if you control kp you also get more days and more lynches. Its super standard I have played more themed games then everyone here probably. You share information and know whats going on rather then chaos. A fist is stronger then a finger. Of course you need good leaders and good followers. and Im definitely not the man for the job


Heh, I like the analogy.

I agree that stacking attacks on someone is a great strat. It's silly to assume right off that mafia have something like a Bus Driver, and this is actually a great way to find out if they do. It sounds like a great way to get some info regardless of the outcome.

There is one flaw in the event of a Bus Driver though that SL is overlooking (otherwise I agree with his posts) and it's that there is nothing to prevent scum from swapping a lurker for a good town so just kus someone gets swapped doesn't 100% mean they are scum.

So while there are potential downfalls I think in the long run stacking some attacks is almost always going to give town more info and will put extra pressure on lurkers/scum. I'm for it.

Having said that I'm sure people will target who they please for the most part, and having everyone attack one target might be a waste. So the idea of having 3-4 people as targets is prob the way to go.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 07:54 GMT
#1187
On October 21 2016 01:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:09 Tictock wrote:
Well I was sorta questioning if I had the energy tonight to get going on this...

Looking over my PM I can tell that I do not. Just gunna pass out and leave this for the morning.

It's morning. Tick... tock... where are you?


My sleep schedule has never been normal, and right now it's incredibly fucked up.

Fear not, it just means you'll see me around at pretty much all points of the day if I live long enough.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 08:04 GMT
#1188
On October 21 2016 03:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
im not liking sicklucker


That's normal.

I'd bet money he is town though.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
October 21 2016 08:23 GMT
#1193
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos


I really dislike this list...

Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list.

And clearly missed some obv town.
I can take that responsibility.
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