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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 16:45 GMT
#441
On October 05 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:
Fine, whatever. This is #202. It's not actually that amazing or worth making a follow-up post on, I just thought it was him making a non-scummy thing into a scum tell.

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 19:37 Holyflare wrote:
It's also 40 minutes between your post and the latest one before that so not receiving a response from people with full time jobs and activity excuses within 20 minutes of your last post seems to be smearing people for no other reason than to look like you are giving more contributions than in fact you are.


it's not really a reach, but maybe it's too much justice.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 16:46 GMT
#442
On October 05 2016 01:44 Calix wrote:
Palmar dear, do you have anything else to add that you feel has been overlooked by others?


Not really. There's a lot of things going on that don't really help much. Almost everyone is playing close to their own meta so I need to figure out a way to make this game about this particular game and not about personalities.

Which is going to be a problem as this game has a lot of them.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 16:49 GMT
#443
On October 04 2016 07:11 Calix wrote:
Okay it's been 20 minutes and still no elaboration on that terrible entrance post/ question even though he's around.

NU can move down a notch.

this is a reach
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 16:49 GMT
#444
as a sidenote, I would modkill NU for trying to abuse the game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 16:58 GMT
#446
On October 05 2016 01:52 Calix wrote:
I'm not reaching. I'm just an impatient person.

What's the point of saying you would have mod-killed NU?

none, hence why I called it a sidenote.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 17:01 GMT
#447
I kinda want to bully someone, but I'm also lazy and I need to go soon, so I'm not gonna.

excellent bully targets are jat and superbia. They're both kinda.... here, but not doing much. Which isn't really scummy for either of them, as that's what they do all the time, but we need to make them commit to shit to figure out what they actually think.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 17:10 GMT
#452
On October 05 2016 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I kinda want to bully someone, but I'm also lazy and I need to go soon, so I'm not gonna.

excellent bully targets are jat and superbia. They're both kinda.... here, but not doing much. Which isn't really scummy for either of them, as that's what they do all the time, but we need to make them commit to shit to figure out what they actually think.

I am pretty sure that I have been quire clear on what I think so far. Feel free to bully superbia though. He is a decent target.

Questionable post tbh. you know that to "make me commit to shit" is not the way to get a read on me.

sure is

if you commit wrong, you scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 04 2016 23:45 GMT
#687
I am not mafia please guys show mercy
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 11:18 GMT
#859
I like Hf's rant post.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:08 GMT
#867
On October 05 2016 20:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 15:55 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 05 2016 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 05 2016 14:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 05 2016 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is super town lol wtf.

Because I think that the cocky useless attitude and annoyance is harder to fake than it seems. Also the times that he has contributed I think he's made good points, i.e. Damdred's confidence on Marv and HF dropping his Calix push.

Lol wait wait you really need to expand on this. Cause it's really important

I don't think that scum becomes genuinely annoyed at somebody for not answering a question because they don't actually care about the answer. This is something that Superbia has to actively think of to fake.

If you're going for the cocky useless scum play, then you are drawing a lot more attention to yourself. It can be harder to pull off than you would think, and it's always a riskier gambit than just contributing more than the shittiest players.

Marv isn't going to roll over this game as scum because he hasn't played in months.

HF point was something that I noticed as well.

sounds logical, but it would be untrue. I would have been crushingly depressed not to have rolled town in my first game in 4 months and been even lazier than usual

I don't think this is true, but I also think that's irrelevant, and I think you think it's true.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:09 GMT
#868
Superbia is also too sure I'm town. Not even marv knows I'm town yet, so there's that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:12 GMT
#870
Regarding JAT, I don't know what to think about his response to me.

a) he might be (or he might believe that he is) correct that pressuring him to take a stance isn't going to work.

b) he also knows that I believe I can pressure him into submission as town, whether or not that is true seems irrelevant.

c) despite b), it's not certain that he thought about what I believe

So in general, I'm still sort of meh on JAT, he is doing the jat thing where he sort of casually comments along in the thread, and I always think he's mafia for it and sometimes I tunnel it and sometimes I leave it. I have no real idea what he actually is.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:26 GMT
#873
I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:28 GMT
#874
I also think Grack might be mafia, he has no agenda that I can tell, he just sort of exists.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:32 GMT
#876
On October 05 2016 21:29 Calix wrote:
The fact that you think that I'm a good player automatically tells me that you're overestimating my play.

Did you know that this should make me scumread you.

And I'm tempted to, I don't know though.

Thing is, when given credit in mafia, you should always take it as town. If I control the lynch as a townie, because people are willing to listen to me, I am automatically increasing town chances of succeeding by a tiny bit. I'm not going to lynch myself, so statistically I'm more likely to hit mafia from my pov.

Even then, it's always beneficial as town to have people listen to me. On the other hand, as mafia it's the other way around. If I know people won't listen to me as mafia, I'll just bus every day and call everyone bad until the game is over.

So, no matter your intention here, you did something that is objectively scummy. Thing is though, people do objectively scummy things all the time as all alignmnets.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:36 GMT
#879
Your mom is a conclusion
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:37 GMT
#881
btw, there's about 99% chance I sheep marv day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:37 GMT
#882
On October 05 2016 21:36 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 21:32 Palmar wrote:
On October 05 2016 21:29 Calix wrote:
The fact that you think that I'm a good player automatically tells me that you're overestimating my play.

Did you know that this should make me scumread you.

And I'm tempted to, I don't know though.

Thing is, when given credit in mafia, you should always take it as town. If I control the lynch as a townie, because people are willing to listen to me, I am automatically increasing town chances of succeeding by a tiny bit. I'm not going to lynch myself, so statistically I'm more likely to hit mafia from my pov.

Even then, it's always beneficial as town to have people listen to me. On the other hand, as mafia it's the other way around. If I know people won't listen to me as mafia, I'll just bus every day and call everyone bad until the game is over.

So, no matter your intention here, you did something that is objectively scummy. Thing is though, people do objectively scummy things all the time as all alignmnets.


tl;dr: You're accusing me of marginalising my own contributions.

Except I wasn't doing that because I didn't put down my own points. All I did was say "I'm not a good player" which is true as I'm not that experienced.

If you think it's 'objectively scummy' but you don't think it makes me scum then that means that you're accusing me of playing badly...which supports my point.


Essentially yes

For example, I am #1 player, therefore people listen to me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 12:50 GMT
#886
On October 05 2016 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok now I'm gonna sheep Marv, so my vote is not useless Palmar....
Honestly though bats re-entry did not include a scum-read or Vote and it did include some stupid shit about "if I'm mafia and super is town, I have nothing to gain by hard defending super" except that 1, when super flips you get cred for being right, 2, your influence is so low that you aren't going to change anyone's minds. Vote threads suxk

I don't think your vote is useless. Why are you telling me that?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 05 2016 14:56 GMT
#917
okay let's murder Calix and see what happens.
Computer says mafia
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