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On October 09 2016 22:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, please post your list of non-lock town in order of scumminess.
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On October 09 2016 23:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Super was super anti town lol, there is nothing inherently wrong with JAT's case.
Then why on earth am I mafia for pushing his lynch? can everyone please reread this post. Listen to me about jat. It's highly unlikely that without significant scum intervention, we managed to avoid lynching damdred and Scott by now, and jat was the main mover of the last lynch. Scott came in with the ninja vote and Palmar really didnt give a shit about moving the vote onto his target.
And tell me how any of your questions are linked to what I said. I already asked you why scum would even need to intervene when you don't even think damdred is mafia. And the assumption that only mafia would do that is even more stupid. Rephrase this lol, i dont not understand. Seriously? Why would I as mafia go out of my way to not lynch damdred if he is town? Why would I need to INTERVENE like that? Why would I as town only lynch between the 2 hardcore lurkers? I dont know if you realised, but you were very close to being lynched yesterday. I think damdred is mafia. Dunno what your last quiestion is. I really wasn't close to being lynched at all. And I just assumed that you do not scumread damdred since in the post before that you declared the mafia team to be me, palmar and scott. My last question is very simple. Why would I only push out side of damdred and scott as mafia? Why would I not do that as town? Look, Calix. His questions are ones that need to be answered with "WIFOM". He has no will to defend himself out of WIFOM, because WIFOM and only WIFOM make his play make sense as town. This is less about me defending myself and more about oats being mafia for just making shit up on the fly.
Literally not interested in continuing this converstation.
I want to lynch scott tmr k guys.
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On October 09 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:02 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 23:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:
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Then why on earth am I mafia for pushing his lynch? can everyone please reread this post. Listen to me about jat. It's highly unlikely that without significant scum intervention, we managed to avoid lynching damdred and Scott by now, and jat was the main mover of the last lynch. Scott came in with the ninja vote and Palmar really didnt give a shit about moving the vote onto his target.
And tell me how any of your questions are linked to what I said. I already asked you why scum would even need to intervene when you don't even think damdred is mafia. And the assumption that only mafia would do that is even more stupid. Rephrase this lol, i dont not understand. Seriously? Why would I as mafia go out of my way to not lynch damdred if he is town? Why would I need to INTERVENE like that? Why would I as town only lynch between the 2 hardcore lurkers? I dont know if you realised, but you were very close to being lynched yesterday. I think damdred is mafia. Dunno what your last quiestion is. I really wasn't close to being lynched at all. And I just assumed that you do not scumread damdred since in the post before that you declared the mafia team to be me, palmar and scott. My last question is very simple. Why would I only push out side of damdred and scott as mafia? Why would I not do that as town? Look, Calix. His questions are ones that need to be answered with "WIFOM". He has no will to defend himself out of WIFOM, because WIFOM and only WIFOM make his play make sense as town. This is less about me defending myself and more about oats being mafia for just making shit up on the fly. Literally not interested in continuing this converstation. I want to lynch scott tmr k guys.
You misspelled Damdred.
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This has got to be one of the most unproductive games I've been in.
We've bickered for pages in a giant circle-jerk but not much has actually changed and we're not getting closer to clarifying matters.
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On October 09 2016 23:15 Calix wrote:
This has got to be one of the most unproductive games I've been in.
We've bickered for pages in a giant circle-jerk but not much has actually changed and we're not getting closer to clarifying matters.
I call it the neverunlucky effect.
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Also we clarified that oats is probably mafia.
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Hard to clarify matters when 60+% of the game is MIA.
I'm in the process of reading Jat's filter, and so far I like his Day One posts. Especially his early case on Grack: On October 05 2016 17:35 justanothertownie wrote:Wow, I had to read an insane amount of bullshit just now. I already told you guys I won't be around much today before the game started and this still holds true (only activity possible today will be what I can sneak in during work). So I will adress the horrendous stuff which has been posted about me and give you my lynchpool before I leave. Won't have time for much more. Let's start: Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 09:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 09:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Grack do you have any reads or you just decide to post when you feel like it uselessly? No I'm actually working on it right now, but it's a slow process. My first instinct was to look at JAT and I'm still a bit undecided. There's nothing in his filter for me to really fault but he seems very agreeable. How do you go from the bolded, which is entirely accurate, to me being his prefered lynch? When being agreeable is basically my bog-standard townmeta? I am literally known for this. Still mafia superbia made the same case on me in my last towngame. It is highly irritating. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 14:06 Grackaroni wrote:
JAT (Because of general agreeability. Also he weakens his reads whenever questioned.)
Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 14:07 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really want to go for the Holyflare hat trick on day 1, so I propose JAT. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 16:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I do agree though that JAT spends a lot of time arguing people are acting normally.
Palmar is normal
Batsnacks is normal
Then whenever somebody argues otherwise he agrees with them. Literally nothing about my play changed between those posts. As if reevaluating my read on batsnacks was the slightest bit scummy. I had an impression of his game which didn't really hold up when I rechecked his filter. And as far as I know this was the only time this game where I "weakened my read". Never did I retract what I said about Palmar. I wasn't questioned either. Grack is misrepresenting what happened here. Overall this is a bullshit accusation which does not require any towny mindset to come up with. Combined with gracks lackluster play it can easily come from mafia. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote:
jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.
I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances. What does "on the ground floor" even mean? I said that calix approach was hard to understand since nu apparently is such an easy read for her. That's literally the only somewhat interesting thing about that fight and since calix was obviously really invested and out herself out there I did not think it made her mafia. The rest of your accusation is just what you said earlier already and it is probably the silliest accusation I have ever heard. If you only lynch people who do this kind of "anti town" stuff you will never win a single game as town. In fact it is so silly that I find it hard to imagine mafia batsnacks trying to attack me with it. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like what bats has been doing recently, especially since he returned pretty quickly after his peace out post.
Super still whining and not being proactive.
Koshi and stutters no-show.
Koshi if you really don't have the time, just find one read and push it. Don't do this fluffy shit.
Jat a lot of activity but not a lot of content, leaning scum on him.
This guy on the other hand is just making a thowaway comment on me without following up un it. He is putting me on the backburner because "I did not offend him" (what kind of bs reason is that?) - possibly because he doesn't really think I will actually get lynched. Might come from mafia.
And this lil' joke:
On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept.
Might be town.
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On October 09 2016 20:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 20:02 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 20:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 19:20 Calix wrote:
Palmar and Scott FTW.
Do you have anything else about your JAT read? I'm not so convinced there. Palmar is town, Jat is scum. Remember the scum diversions you were talking about? Yeah, that's JAT. Explain. Unless Palmar is Godfather, he is town. And my case for you will come later in the day, you need not worry.
I am a rolecop and had a gf check last night.
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On October 09 2016 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:15 Calix wrote:
This has got to be one of the most unproductive games I've been in.
We've bickered for pages in a giant circle-jerk but not much has actually changed and we're not getting closer to clarifying matters. I call it the neverunlucky effect.
Yes, it is mostly my fault. No sarcasm.
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On October 09 2016 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 19:26 Calix wrote:
Either way, Palmar/ Scott should die tomorrow while the rest pans itself out. Sound like a plan? deffo scott for now. the jat thing is super cool but it rests on people flipping
Why are you townreading Palmar?
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Palmar/Oats makes sense I guess.
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On October 09 2016 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 20:54 Calix wrote:
Do you have any reason for wanting to lynch Scott first? lol hes idependantly scummy, also what a retarded vote on damdred then the super sheep onto super.
Pretty sure nobody has real reasons for scott to be mafia.
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Speaking of Grack, would anyone like to present why they are town/ scum reading him?
I only have shitty reasoning myself.
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On October 09 2016 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 22:18 Calix wrote:
If Oats' next post does not do the following:
A) Explain why he's scum-reading JAT
B) Explain his read on Palmar
C) Actually push the game forward
then there had better be some god-tier explanation. Girl plz. Palmar is hardcore just popping in, posting some stuff about the game that makes some sense then peacing out. His behavior around the lynch was really weird with him here Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 04:16 Palmar wrote:
Regarding superbia. Lynching him isnt the worst idea Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.
Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred I mean like what the fuck man. there isnt much to say about scott cause its so obvious. Jat shit is in here come on man, im just quoting your filter. + Show Spoiler +On October 05 2016 16:27 Calix wrote:Not quotes but JAT has a lot of posts where he says "XYZ is behaving normally for them" or asking a question and then not going anywhere with them. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Here JAT's response is to characterise batsnacks as 'sassy and self-confident' (implying that these are accurate words to describe his filter). He also notes that batsnacks had been 'improving his scum game' - an odd thing to note on someone that you claim to have 'no problems' with so far. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
I still maintain that I do not have a particular problem with his filter but I retract my confidence. This doesn't make sense. He didn't have much confidence in his read to begin with (i.e., the comment about an improved mafia game) and how does one lose confidence without seeing a problem with the filter? Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:19 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:11 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Eh? I didn't get the impression that he was being that sassy or whatnot. In fact, his filter is one that I'd characterise as "trying to blend in" so I don't relate to your impression of him. I don't have a 'case' per se but my impression of him is that he's popping in to make comments which sound okay by themselves but add up to a poor filter. Namely he has a few pre-flip association theories which don't tell us much about where he actually stands on the players as individuals. #266 pinged me because he doesn't really SAY anything in it. He waffles around, seemingly contemplating the possibility of scum!Calix, and then concludes null on NU/ myself (although he says that NU 'gives him town vibes'?) and his argument is "if they're TvT then it would be more obvious since they seem to know each other well" #334 and #399 read like he's throwing shade on everyone in the NU/ Calix/ HF debacle. He throws up ideas where we could all be scum at certain points...but we have NO idea of where he actually stands. This is lazy but I think he's a good candidate for scum atm. On October 05 2016 00:55 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 00:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 00:14 batsnacks wrote:
Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before
Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"
Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense. Quote the posts please. I explicitly said that I had no specific evidence after HF's last post iirc. On another note, Palmar is underwhelming as fuck so far. Wouldn't mind policy-lynching him. No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia. offski Yeah this is also effective if holyflare is town though so I guess it depends whether or not town Holyflare thinks Calix is Mafia. Holyflare wasn't wrong about anything he said it just seemed like a pretty dramatic way to be right. Calix wrote it off st the time as Holyflare being a dramatic person, I would probably be more concerned about it in her position. HF is a dramatic person though? You're not actually faulting HF's arguments, you're just faulting his confidence which he can do as any alignment. (aka it's null) No idea why you're hung up on this. Also how is your point 'effective' if your original point had HF as scum? I don't understand. Actually there is less of that stuff in his filter than I remembered. But there are still quite a few posts I would label as typical town bats posts. Maybe I didn't use the correct words to describe the tone: On October 04 2016 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Just a scummy pop in post nothing to see here. On October 04 2016 21:45 batsnacks wrote:
lol someone said "Power Wolf" that sounds like a sex thing On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote:
Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS
People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat
They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right? First two look like typical shit-posts to me. Third one is one of the reasons why I'm suspecting him. So not terribly convinced here but I'll see. The quality of the content doesn't necessarily correlate with the overall usefullness of a post to get a read. Those ARE shitposts. But in my experience town batsnacks is more likely to make shitposts like that. If you want to judge him on content you will have a bad time if he is town. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:23 Calix wrote:
I'm not bothered about his shit-posts; they don't factor into the main issues I have with him.
I just don't think they warrant a town-read unless you're saying that he's one of those types who is more serious as scum. He is definitely one of thise types. And on the heels of losing his confidence, he makes these two posts: Soft-ball defense of batsnacks using his shit-posting, arguing that this shows batsnacks is less serious and thus is likely town. His last post says that batsnacks is "definitely" one of the types to be more serious as scum. This is an odd shift in confidence from "having retracted [his confidence]" to now being sure that batsnacks acts in a certain way as scum. On October 07 2016 19:01 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:56 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:54 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:38 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:31 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar.
This guy is my hero If you flip town we should probably lynch him for tmi. Eww gross post. On October 07 2016 18:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 17:42 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 17:08 justanothertownie wrote:
I disagree that the calix/nu thing was obviously TvT btw. calix had a comparatively passive role in it. Which I can't fault her for but I don't think the whole thing makes her town at all. This is Grade A bullshit. You're telling me that actively posing a question and accusing someone based on that and tunneling is 'comparatively passive'? If that's passive then your posts are worthy of the Pulitzer prize. "Comparatively" as in "compared to nu". Yes, you did that stuff and I never said the whole thing makes you mafia. I just feel the general procedure of the argument was nu berating you (never really understood why he felt the need to do it since apparently you are "obvious town" to him) while you just went along with the shitshow. I just don't think that makes you town. Eww another gross post. Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless. You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless. What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it. The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you. It was 100% a TvT, go away Says the guy who did not list calix as town in his list. Can you explain how I have been "atrociously wrong" all game? You cannot seriously fault anyone for scumreading you, even if you are town. This is so bad. Doesn't read like JAT is scum-hunting at all. On October 08 2016 17:11 Calix wrote:
I still think JAT is the scummiest player in the thread. As flagged up earlier, I get the impression that he just pops in to make leading comments that serve the mafia agenda. It's a Saturday morning so no harm in me reading his filter now.
And I think the other two are among you, Damdred, Superbia because I think the majority of the scum are passive/ lack influence.
You could add Palmar/ Koshi but I think those two are town. jat has posted absolutely no content whatsoever, its disgusting how little shit is in his 10 page filter.
Ok so Oats is mafia. Good stuff.
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Actually, I have a legit reason to suspect Scott.
Observe his initial reads list where he claims he wants Palmar/ JAT lynched. That's all fine and dandy.
+ Show Spoiler [JAT (lean scum) + Damdred (null-town)] +On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:
justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him.
Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on.
That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more.
Observe him justifying Damdred's MIA status as NAI for him and assuming that he is telling the truth.
On October 08 2016 05:44 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 06:16 Damdred wrote:
Sorry really sick just got out of bed.
Should be able to pick back up tomorrow or when the room stops spinning, I'll start catching up. This was his sick reason 23 hours ago and his last post. :/ He's not one to make up sick excuses etc
Observe him make points about why JAT is scummy and talk to JAT in a negative manner.
On October 08 2016 05:55 scott31337 wrote:Well that sounds legit  I have been scum reading you two, and you are both voting for each other. A sick double bus would be extremely bad at this point in nature - so it makes more sense that one, or both of you are town. You just remind me of the "don't give out any info" JAT instead of the inquisitiveness/solving the game/pushing further JAT like in that game I was the two shot tracker. Palmar is sounding slightly better with his recent posts.
On October 08 2016 16:00 scott31337 wrote:JAT - You wonder why? Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:
Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.
Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.
nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.
These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):
Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.
Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.
Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.
Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.
I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):
Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.
Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.
batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...
Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.
Two of these people you tell the most of are dead, and the other I've replaced. This is one situation I'm speaking of.
Observe him promptly forget all of that in favour of this AWFUL vote on Damdred over Palmar or JAT even though both of them were wagons at the time of his vote.
On October 08 2016 16:09 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, I've had car accidents happen and still was able to at least voice my opinion. My vote is for you.
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I invite everyone to take look at Jat v. Grack which is contained between 938 and 991 in Jat's filter.
Jat makes some good points on Grack who seems to be back-tracking with every step Jat takes in his direction.
Jat had a solid Day 1 performance from what I am seeing. Don't want to lynch him anymore.
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On October 09 2016 23:31 Calix wrote:Actually, I have a legit reason to suspect Scott. Observe his initial reads list where he claims he wants Palmar/ JAT lynched. That's all fine and dandy. + Show Spoiler [JAT (lean scum) + Damdred (null-town)] +On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:
justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him.
Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on.
That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more. Observe him justifying Damdred's MIA status as NAI for him and assuming that he is telling the truth. Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:44 scott31337 wrote:On October 07 2016 06:16 Damdred wrote:
Sorry really sick just got out of bed.
Should be able to pick back up tomorrow or when the room stops spinning, I'll start catching up. This was his sick reason 23 hours ago and his last post. :/ He's not one to make up sick excuses etc Observe him make points about why JAT is scummy and talk to JAT in a negative manner. Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:55 scott31337 wrote:Well that sounds legit I have been scum reading you two, and you are both voting for each other. A sick double bus would be extremely bad at this point in nature - so it makes more sense that one, or both of you are town. You just remind me of the "don't give out any info" JAT instead of the inquisitiveness/solving the game/pushing further JAT like in that game I was the two shot tracker. Palmar is sounding slightly better with his recent posts. Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 16:00 scott31337 wrote:JAT - You wonder why? On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:
Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.
Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.
nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.
These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):
Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.
Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.
Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.
Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.
I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):
Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.
Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.
batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...
Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.
Two of these people you tell the most of are dead, and the other I've replaced. This is one situation I'm speaking of. Observe him promptly forget all of that in favour of this AWFUL vote on Damdred over Palmar or JAT even though both of them were wagons at the time of his vote. Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 16:09 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, I've had car accidents happen and still was able to at least voice my opinion. My vote is for you.
Good post. That's really bizarre.
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On October 06 2016 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 01:11 Grackaroni wrote:On October 06 2016 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:
He clearly decided he would defend calix no matter what before actually reading what has been said about her. Clearly Indeed. You immediately rushed to her defense without understanding the accusation against her as evidenced here: Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him. Then you try to defend her by arguing her scumread on me doesn't depend on batsnacks which it evidently does. And when all fails you just claim that you think she can forget her scumreads. You defended for 2 separate and incorrect reasons before actually understanding the argument and then kept doing it.
This seems to sum up the gist of what JAT is arguing. He's welcome to chip in, of course, but I take it that you two are accusing Grack of white-knighting me?
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Add to that the fact that Grack did not make a case on HF this game and the fact that he semi-buddied marv, we have a pretty good mafia contender in Grack.
He was always willing to lynch Palmar though. I don't think Palmar/Grack is a thing with their interactions.
Grack/Oats makes sense because they have been distantly town-reading each other.
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On October 09 2016 23:37 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 01:11 Grackaroni wrote:On October 06 2016 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:
He clearly decided he would defend calix no matter what before actually reading what has been said about her. Clearly Indeed. You immediately rushed to her defense without understanding the accusation against her as evidenced here: On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him. Then you try to defend her by arguing her scumread on me doesn't depend on batsnacks which it evidently does. And when all fails you just claim that you think she can forget her scumreads. You defended for 2 separate and incorrect reasons before actually understanding the argument and then kept doing it. This seems to sum up the gist of what JAT is arguing. He's welcome to chip in, of course, but I take it that you two are accusing Grack of white-knighting me?
Sort of. My accusation was that he was going to defend you no matter what I say.
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