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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 09 2016 14:41 GMT
#2561
On October 09 2016 23:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Add to that the fact that Grack did not make a case on HF this game and the fact that he semi-buddied marv, we have a pretty good mafia contender in Grack.

He was always willing to lynch Palmar though. I don't think Palmar/Grack is a thing with their interactions.

Grack/Oats makes sense because they have been distantly town-reading each other.

He was willing to lynch Palmar on day1. Then after the lynch he made a 180 for whatever reason.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:42 GMT
#2562
On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.

'arbitrarily better' ???

I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.


I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.

I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.

Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.

No words...
I had a good night of sleep.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 09 2016 14:42 GMT
#2563
On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:
Stutters is a pretty shit shot.

If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info).

If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred.

+ Show Spoiler +
Like there even is a vigi

Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town.

Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained.

What did you think of Palmar's defense?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#2564
Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?

Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.

I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.

We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#2565
Hmm I forgot how scott played last game but I believe he was at least consistent. So yeah. Could be mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 09 2016 14:48 GMT
#2566
On October 09 2016 23:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:
Stutters is a pretty shit shot.

If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info).

If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred.

+ Show Spoiler +
Like there even is a vigi

Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town.

Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained.

What did you think of Palmar's defense?

If you are asking why I am suggesting to not shoot him there - Palmar is really really good at defending himself against being mislynched. So unless I am 100 % sure that he is mafia it is always better to try and lynch him because if he is actually defending himself you should be able to see his alignment. He will not go down like superbia a scrub as town. While trying to lynch stutters would have lead to no information obtained ever regardless of his alignment.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#2567
On October 09 2016 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.

'arbitrarily better' ???

I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.


I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.

I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.

Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.

No words...

Really just look at those 3 paragraphs. Mind = blown
In a bad way
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 09 2016 14:54 GMT
#2568
On October 09 2016 23:45 Calix wrote:
Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?

Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.

I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.

We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol.

Well, I can tell you right now that they all had their votes on me day2 without ever explaining why and the only one who changed was grack who pointlessly switched to damdred when it was really to late already.
Would have to reread the day1 lynch.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 09 2016 14:55 GMT
#2569
brb, going to filter-dive for Grack's attitude about the lynches. Koshi can do Palmar since he loves him so much
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 09 2016 14:57 GMT
#2570
On October 09 2016 06:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 2: Final Vote Count


  • Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
  • Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
  • justanothertownie (2) - Palmar, Oatsmaster
  • marvellosity (1) - Superbia
  • Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337

Not voting (1) - Damdred


Grack CFD.

Palmar and Oats on Jat for sick read.

Scott ninja'd.

Damdred AWOL.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 09 2016 14:58 GMT
#2571
On October 06 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Final Vote Count


  • batsnacks (5) - marvellosity, Damdred, Calix, Oatsmaster, NeverUnlucky
  • Palmar (4) - Grackaroni, Holyflare, Koshi, Superbia
  • Damdred (1) - batsnacks
  • Superbia (1) - justanothertownie
  • Holyflare (1) - Palmar

Not voting (1) - Stutters695


Scott has no vote.

Palmar tried starting a new train.

Grack was voting Palmar.

Oats and Damdred were involved in the ML for reasons I can't remember.

On October 09 2016 06:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 2: Final Vote Count


  • Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
  • Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
  • justanothertownie (2) - Palmar, Oatsmaster
  • marvellosity (1) - Superbia
  • Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337

Not voting (1) - Damdred


Grack CFD.

Palmar and Oats on Jat for sick read.

Scott ninja'd.

Damdred AWOL.




Potential scum were minimally involved in any ML.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 09 2016 15:00 GMT
#2572
On October 09 2016 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 23:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:
Stutters is a pretty shit shot.

If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info).

If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred.

+ Show Spoiler +
Like there even is a vigi

Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town.

Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained.

What did you think of Palmar's defense?

If you are asking why I am suggesting to not shoot him there - Palmar is really really good at defending himself against being mislynched. So unless I am 100 % sure that he is mafia it is always better to try and lynch him because if he is actually defending himself you should be able to see his alignment. He will not go down like superbia a scrub as town. While trying to lynch stutters would have lead to no information obtained ever regardless of his alignment.

No, I understood your suggestion. I am asking for your thoughts on his D2 defense.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 15:00 GMT
#2573
On October 09 2016 23:55 Calix wrote:
brb, going to filter-dive for Grack's attitude about the lynches. Koshi can do Palmar since he loves him so much

Palmar thought they were all town before they got lynched. I dont need to filterdive.

D1 he tried to get hf lynched after sitting all day on you.
D2 he popped in but did nothing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 09 2016 15:00 GMT
#2574
Actually yeah, that approach is considerably more efficient.

So we're concluding that the town did the usual thing of eating each other?
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 09 2016 15:00 GMT
#2575
On October 09 2016 23:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 23:42 Koshi wrote:
On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.

'arbitrarily better' ???

I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.


I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.

I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.

Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.

No words...

Really just look at those 3 paragraphs. Mind = blown
In a bad way

Sadface.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 09 2016 15:06 GMT
#2576
And tl;dr: Grack didn't talk a lot about batsnacks, just said that he would vote if someone made a case and said that he didn't understand why batsnacks was being lynched. As noted, he started the counter-wagon on Palmar but then flips on this post-flip because "Palmar might get some points for defending bats"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 15:07 GMT
#2577
On October 10 2016 00:00 Calix wrote:
Actually yeah, that approach is considerably more efficient.

So we're concluding that the town did the usual thing of eating each other?

D1 there is a big chance on all town on Palmar and mafia on batsnacks. Palmar was here to swap to batsnacks if needed. Grack is only ? There.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 15:08 GMT
#2578
Just lynch Palmar tomorrow and we can pull this back. Free mafia lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 09 2016 16:46 GMT
#2579
It's so fucking amazing that if I'm not the epicenter of controlling a game, everyone turns into a retard.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 09 2016 16:46 GMT
#2580
Fuck you koshi
Computer says mafia
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