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It would be so much worse this year I'd the games that were sabotaged had finished scum had both in the bag to (I'm only a little bitter) But seriously will Lynch Palmar d1 join me | ||
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Who wants to be my friend? I will nee protecting this game from scum as I find myself deactivated already. Maybe vivax will be my defender | ||
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Since both of you are familiar with one another could you explain each other's scum/meta game slightly to us? | ||
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While the argument isn't amazing against ca I think it does sort of make me lean town on never. What do you think? | ||
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I think you can be town I do think you are harping on something that doesn't quite make calix scum in this situation though. Now what do you think of vivax? | ||
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God this game might end up being easy | ||
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That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today. @Shape hts would,be proud of me. But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early, Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for | ||
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And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me. And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him. | ||
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Hrs inquisitive, he's confrontational and he is invested so far in hoe the game is being playrd. His tone fits into his town net a and him actually posting actually is a great sign. Do I totally agree with him? Not really, but the angles he's coming at looks town and I like his posts. So it's enough for a lean today. | ||
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Anyway be back later | ||
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So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy) | ||
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So yes if I think hf is town I will give him his preferred lynch and I suspect he would do the same to me. | ||
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On September 10 2016 07:12 fuba wrote: Chill. That will be handled on a point-by-point basis when I'm home. This looks like a town post, 5 points to anyone who can say why. | ||
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On September 10 2016 07:27 NeverUnlucky wrote: Everybody can say why, nobody wants your '5 points'. He seemed frustrated towards me. Scum tend to have trouble faking emotion, sot that's why you think this looks like a town post. However, he replied defensively to my post which wasn't aggressive in the slightest. You just don't get it, you quickly shut down any form of alternative thought, you don't know if anyone wants my 5 points or even if it's a joke or something that I actually do. Your attitude even though I think your towny need a obvious work. Aggressive doesn't mean town and aggressive doesn't mean scum so that last portion doesn't mean much to me. As for your main reason, nope that's not really what I saw but,nice try. | ||
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TT isn't your average lurker also, he is a good active town player and a lurker when he's scum or blue. Since he can't be blue meta doesn't lie in this situation. Storm mafia three is a great example of this. Anyone who just equates tt lurking to,general lurkiness is probably just wrong here. He doesn't care his opening post is forced and he's not really doing,anything of,note in the game. He has no real,scum or town reads past a certain point. And to the people who go lol Damdred town reads are just on the towniest people in the game. Ok, but they weren't at the time, context is important most of,the game hadn't weighed in on,the fights or anything but I did. And nu still hasn't figures out how I scum,hint and you don't want to follow him do you? | ||
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Just has a weird feel to me atm. | ||
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Do not give in lynch tt | ||
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We have almost 40 pages of information with a push on tt you get info from and what people are pushing for. Besides that dead scum>alive scum | ||
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Boo. Also think palmar might be town rip the dream. | ||
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COukd it be town tt just going down with the ship, yes it could. But there is no logical reasoning town should defend tt is there? For such a easy target the amount of push back,that has been received from the tt while no one town reads him is staggering tbh. But really there is so much time left and so few people voting it coups,mean any number of things. | ||
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But with only three people on the train you can't say that nobody is doing anything to stop it. It's just idiotic. | ||
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On September 11 2016 02:59 fuba wrote: My current thoughts on TT are that no one could really defend him if he's not going to defend himself. It kind of eliminates that entire line of reasoning. On one hand, scum could more easily push a mislynch. On the other, scum couldn't defend him too much without associating themselves with him. I could see the scum waiting to drop onto his side until he started posting again, but being unable to because he never came back. And he has been defended, in a way. Pushing another lynch defends the current lynch leader. I'm not at all saying that everyone iffy about a TT lynch is scum. I'm saying that if we're voting for someone else, then we're not voting for tt. Scum could push a counter lynch, or simply hop onto one, and not have to worry all that much about being associated with him because he's "just a lurker lynch". I have to get back to work soon. Might be able to sneak a peak at the game before lynch time. Staying on TT because despite HF's overconfidence in the case, I remember finding it compelling at the time and nothing TT has done has convinced me otherwise. Also, the fact that he disappeared right after the votes popped up, and the fact that HF appeared to be (and still is) dead set on lynching him may have sapped his will to fight back. I know it's projecting, but I would be disheartened if HF declared me so strongly scum so early. Anyone know if this would apply to TT too? Like, is he more likely to disappear when he's town being wrongly accused, or scum being correctly accused? Or maybe is neither more likely? Idk why you think you are shifty d1 you've had some good posts. I like you more as time goes. | ||
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Both questions are wifom but both have to be answered for your position calix | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:13 Skynx wrote: I mean nearly all these stuff are applicable to Palmar as well. However you are ready to ignore him cuz of meta. You say not defending when pressure doesn't fit town!TT meta but in meantime TT is totally entirely afk from this game while Palmar is pretty much here but refuses to post any content. Why are you not considering him? Palmar can have a date with the noose Monday but not really going to consider him on a weekend and that's the main reason. | ||
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And no that's not the easiest answer,because three votes isn't a lynch by any means | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:22 Grackaroni wrote: Damdred, who would you lynch if not TT? Shape log (trademark pending) | ||
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Which btw is avoiding my questions you can try to play word games all you want but refusing to see or talk about any other possibility than what you believe is bad and pig headed. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote: Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense. Mafia stand by and let there own die all the time, Like I said why would scum defend scum when the scum in question isn't even doing anything? The answer is simple,they won't and will see what the thread does. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:32 Calix wrote: [citation needed] Why would scum not try to divert the lynch onto another lurker if that was the case then? See, I can ask dumb abstract questions about what the scum might hypothetically do too! Actually this is a good question, the simplest answer is the strongest player in the thread teamed up with the second strongest and scum can't yell over him. Another thing is hf is bussing his partner in tt. Or hf is the scum leading a ml. I sort of think hf is town right now so two and,three I am not considering until I see a flip. Part one is pretty likely and certain players are hard to push against. Espe rally when tt isn't trying. | ||
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The simple fact is your theory isn't as strong as you make it out to be and now you hope you can push through a lynch on me. That's equally comical. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote: I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred. I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this? | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote: lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy. Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts. It would go like Tt Shape/super And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent. The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly | ||
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Clearly so I await your vote good sir | ||
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@Skynx well the conversation is being controlled,by three people,basically and that's the focus. In any case if not tt I'd do,shape or super. But I'd like to,see what super does d2 meh | ||
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And yeah I'm halfway here lots | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote: I here. I been sick last night and today with a 101.9 fever. Going try to catch as much as I can. (I hope you feel better and I'm sorry I poked at you) | ||
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Game might be super hard | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:33 Vivax wrote: Tbh this sounds like you're spewing HF town.. Got him | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:33 Superbia wrote: You literally took a drop on my list because you townread me x; Sorry can't help that I'm this good | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:39 NeverUnlucky wrote: The middle two are wrong as Damdred isn't scum. How do you explain suggesting that HF would flip town? Thank you for confirming I'm not scum to you anymore | ||
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Tt might flip town but I doubt it I will be sorts disappointed if,he does acid eod think,he's a great town player. Tw can be parsed layer and we have already gotten some good inform Calix is super defensive for no real reason and it's bugging,me,to,he'll and,back | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote: What exactly have I said that triggered this? Your excitement early, your reasoning on the calix reaction. About people defending tt for shifty reasons. I like it all and your tone. | ||
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But grac defending but not defending and calix chainsaw wifom defense is strange on retrospect | ||
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Palmar hopping off like he did could be distancing and trying not to get to Mich attention but I am unsure of that. @Grack you did somewhat defend tt I will say you at least actually pushed a secondary Lyn h which puts you more likely town. *Note a secondary lynch that was possible  let and actuallybpished not talked about.So I'm a bit town on you as scum you have no real reason to push hf now that we know tt flips town. So I'll think about that. What do you think of skynx complaining about everyone ignoring the other afk problem and then hopping on tt anyway without pushing anything? | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:16 Shapelog wrote: "We cannot blame anyone for the lynch, let's blame everyone who was off the path?" I think that was the post message. I mean, I need to read it. But them defending TT could just be reg. town stuff. And here I thought you cared about me. Well I don't think that's necessarily true I still think grac is town. As for calix I need to reread but I think they look worse. And fyi there was like 7 people off the lynch I believe. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote: You are so stupid. The Death Whisperer is 100% certain to be protecting one of the three scums N1. It's the night we have the least chance of making good use of your shawt. Plus, HF driving a ML doesn't make him scum. He had (bad) reasons to vote him, but he had reasons. People like Damdred, Shapelog, Fuba, and Superbia gave no reasoning whatsoever for this lynch. They are scummier than the one who drove the ML. Fact. I gave reasoning for my vote blatant lies of the heinous kind. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote: It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read. I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1. Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this. Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched. Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point? | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote: Who are we talking about here specifically? Let's not nAMe names lets just answer honestly | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:57 Superbia wrote: If someone scum scumread TT early on they're somewhat likely to join the waffling near EoD. Or dig in. What about being super paranoid about halfway through d1 hating who's joining the wagon and thinks it's to easy? Scum or town? | ||
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On September 11 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote: Depends on who and what. Also actually a hard question, definitely depends on the circumstance. More specifically, the second wagon. Getting people off TT and onto a (nother) town wagon is so good for scum. I honestly don't think calix just rethinking on things is probably scum. Shows paranoia about the lynch to well to be from scum (on a first look) Is way to aggro and put themselves way to out there with Mich to hard a stance and to weird a turn to come from scum. Just ny initial take,though I think,the scum reads are off this time even from myself. | ||
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On September 11 2016 07:08 Superbia wrote: Maybe. I need to sleep on it first. HF has echoed my thoughts accurately too many times for me to believe he is scum. Someone has told me before that this is a trap, though HF was town that game. I think hf is town in this situation to. Like I am in a weird position Hf, super, grac, cal, UN, super, fuba are what ant I'd think are my town reads. Paranoid of vivax but I'll,figure that out I'm suspicious of tw Palmar is Monday Sky and shape to me votes look the worst but shapes sick so want to,give him a bit of time (<3) So either its a super easy game or going to get,messy. | ||
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On September 11 2016 07:17 Superbia wrote: I think that town list may be too generous. I have no idea on grac/fuba. Cal is mafia pending re-read. I talked a bit about grac earlier I n the night if you want to read that (ie pushing hf lynch etc) and give thoughts be appreciated. As for fun a I liked,his posts and he mirrored my thoughts pretty well. So there is bias there. | ||
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And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy. In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad. Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum | ||
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On September 11 2016 08:03 NeverUnlucky wrote: The difference is that you are not confrontational at all in your posts. As if you didn't want to make enemies. That just fits with you town-hunting rather than scum-hunting. Why is it scummy then? You make a point. However, you never really brought anything worth talking about either. Does that make you scum as well? How is this making him scummy? Confrontational is a nai trait scum can be nice or mean and,the same as town. This is a non point I have talked about whatever I wanted to,when,I was in,thread, the fights. Reads, my read on tt most,of,these things were ignored by you however. Idk if voting is mandatory where you are, but jumping on at the end,has the least amount,of responsibilities and,if he brought,hf near tie and hf,flipped even more heat would be on him. His decision making,process does not portray town trying to push or figure out anything. Like what he said about ignoring super shape etc but never pushes then himself and votes the person he was upset we were pushing. That's not town. | ||
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In any case @Shape I think what hi was looking for on a reread was him actually bringing things up about the others in the pool. Lets be honest sky is good at making cases and I don't see it here, he's good with reasoning and while I can see consolidation being the answer it just doesn't make a lot of sense with how his stance was when he entered the thread. And he was pre try side lines during,the lynch and most of the day (slight hypocritical at parts of,me,to say). Do you disagree? | ||
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The most likely motivation is easy ml and being under the radar in a somewhat lazy and hf driven game that's contentious at points. Other than that it's towny looking to consolidate at least. As for tw idk I'm suspicious and vivax has fallen off a lot to. | ||
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On September 11 2016 09:22 Shapelog wrote: How do you even? I...... YOU ARE OUR CHAMPION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! I was getting up put my phone on the back of the toilet flushed and the phone fell and I went... Nooooooooooooo, you were the chosen one. My wife is somewhat upset at me. | ||
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Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure. Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday. Also I expected more from you hf. | ||
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On September 11 2016 22:31 Skynx wrote: Into Into Kill with fire guys. Why is being unsure at points scum indicative again? You can give some generalized reason about scum finding it hard to make scum reads. But the problems I pointed out are real. My town reads nu and shape think I am off base on my reasoning which I need to,check,into more. | ||
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On September 11 2016 22:15 Calix wrote: Fuck's sake N00b tl;dr - Self-centred and almost-exclusively talks about himself and responds to posts that mention him. - Always hides behind other players' ideas. (e.g., he waited for NU to talk about Skynx before saying Skynx was scummy; waited for HF/ Superbia to say "if TT is town, lynch Calix" before agreeing) - He takes safe/ popular positions in the thread, says nothing controversial whatsoever. - Had no interest in doing anything useful at EOD except for responding when called out, was content with the TT train and did not even bother discussing other options. 1) One is hypocritical as you yourself mainly protected yourself and have overall reacted poorly pressure, also it is natural to foremost take on accusations against yourself as only you (or a cop) knows your alignment. This is nai to the extreme doesn't make anyone scum. 2) When night began I attacked the notion that calix was scum with super via across several posts as I thought that you had nothing to gain from doing what you did. Nu asked for opinions and mine directly countered thread sentiment. So this is a blatant lie and the examples are just wrong. 3) See two obviously can't be true, and I was the starter of some early opinions. 4) I wanted tt lynched not other people, I got the person who I wanted lynched. Not scum indicative and this harkens back,to 1. Nai As for wishy washy, yep I am sometimes I don't have perfect information so,I second guess myself whenever I can. | ||
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On September 11 2016 22:48 Calix wrote: 1. Er no, I have done considerably more than 'just defend myself'. I am not arguing that talking about/ defending yourself is scummy. I am arguing that ONLY talking about yourself is scummy. Why would any town care to talk about themselves as much as you have when they should be focused on figuring out everyone else's alignment? 2. Explain why you felt the need to say "Calix defending TT is weird" then if you didn't think it was scummy. You were low-key agreeing with the idea that I was sketchy for defending TT's train. If you didn't think that made me suspicious, why did you do it again? 3. [citation fucking needed] But let's assume you didn't make that shit up. Fire-starting is not a town tell. If anything, that's what scum do. They get other people to talk about and push their own ideas. 4. That doesn't mean you just stop talking about the other trains, wtf. You're telling me that you had no opinions you wanted to share about the EOD events? Not buying it. You got complacent with the ML and stopped posting anything constructive. 1) I am figuring out people's alignments, you just do not like how I am doing it. I have several posts where I am standing at points. And being self centered when .people are talking about lynching you isn't scum indicative. 2. Cause I thought you and grac might be scum. Then I almost instantly swap on grac in my next post. You forgot that one. I thought of town reasons it could be done. 3. You are basically saying here you didn't read my filter before you made your case. And once again you are forcing everything into a narrative on a conclusion you have already made. Which btw if you took the same tact you are handling,me,the same way nu scum read me and now you are using,it to throw shade under the cover. I don't think,that's the case but it's humorous. 4) I can do what hi want around lynch, I was relatively sure on tt. Can only lynch one person at a time anyway. This isn't alignment indicative in that case. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:01 Holyflare wrote: Why? I don't have time to be good at this game anymore. Apart from nailing tw to a wall. We both believed in the same lynch, I'm not able to be as active as either of us want. You should,know I'm town by now honestly | ||
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On September 11 2016 22:58 Calix wrote: You dropped your opinion while you were busy rehashing Shape's views, my dude. ' What does this even,mean. Sky misinterpreted what shape was saying I corrected him idk | ||
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And I don't get lynched d1, I never have nor will ever. So I'm glad you recognize my station as almighty just remember your place peon next time ty. And as that which you aspire to be. Here is a sincere observation (no sarcasm), You are a good player I think, a bit rough around the edges (same can be said of nu). But you have the tendency to tunnel over things that don't make people scum and you are reading everything through a predetermined position rather than trying,to see all sides. It really doesn't matter atm just an observation because generally you are enjoyable to read. Ad as foe the other things I do understand that hi come off confusing at times with how I post, but I just post whatever jumps in,my,mind when I want to. Any case keep on keeping on. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:36 Palmar wrote: that hurts, but you'll be forgiven if you flip scum Never going to,forgive me,then. @Calix you are just so tunneled can't see anything coming from town oh well. | ||
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On September 12 2016 00:02 NeverUnlucky wrote: He is not helping the town, right, but NAI. I actually liked his responses to your posts lately and am revising my read on him. If he becomes a town-read then I'm completely barking up the wrong trees as it means I have no other scum-reads. Vivax's posts in the second half of D1 really dropped in quality. I suspect him of laying back because he was town-read. He is no longer a strong read for me. I knew you would,come around slowly. To your vivax point, it's possible but I'd like to,give him at least to d3. D2 we already have a few decent candidates I think. (Sky should be discussed, tw is one of,the top candidates) Problem lies I have a lot of town reads and I get the feeling that one is wrong at least. Like I think shape is townish now, so it leaves me in a place where it could be vivax/tumble/sky but that team doesn't feel right to me. | ||
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On September 12 2016 00:06 Vivax wrote: All this speculation about who behaved how towards TT, who defended him, whether scum would defend him or just hop onto the wagon is fruitless. Scum can do whatever they please in the situation we had where they could see it coming from a mile away that TT was being mislynched (or they even actively fueled the wagon) , just pay attention to who plays like scum regardless of TT's flip. So many games are filled with this shitty types of wifomy discussion related to singular events that it has just become boring. On top of it, it allows people to post a shitton of filler that doesn't tell us anything. Stick to traditional scumhunting thanks. People who played with me in guardians of the galaxy should know about this. Can't wait until last wills get posted and the spirit votes get casted, half the thread will be wasting pages on arguing whether it's fake or not and what it means for their reads. Where is the real vivax | ||
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Grack timings are a bit strange on his posts and the hf vs Grack fight feels weird. Like those are two people I'm most weary of atm outside two of the three. (Vivax I still want to,give more time) | ||
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On September 12 2016 00:21 NeverUnlucky wrote: Wait, are you claiming that you are pocketing me? Rhetorical question, obviously. How did you know that I was going to change my read? There's no wrong in havim than three canditates. This web-site should REALLY stop using the "Yeah, I too think he may be scum. Let's give him another day though." It's brutally bad in all aspects. Why are you already dismissing a Vivax possible lynch for D2 before D2 even started? Same. You scum-read Vivax but don't want to have him as a potential lynch D2? Weird AF, and again being friendy-friend with the best players. The thing with vivax is that he doesn't have any motivation/staying power as scum. By d3 he basically tells you his alignment generally by the amount of time and tinfoil,he gives. Its heavily meta based and just a general stance that people take on bong vivax mostly. His d1 started towny, and has slowly dropped,though his last two posts haven't,been,horrid. And as foe why I thought you would,come around. Well most of,the time when I start talking and,interacting opinions change for,the most part. But,my pocket is big and comfortable | ||
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On September 12 2016 00:40 NeverUnlucky wrote: You guys put way too much importance in your meta reads. You disregarded the points Calix and I made on DDD D1 because "lol, he will improve his play later on, meta", you don't want a lynch on someone you scum-read because meta says he will scumslip if he's scum, you said that TT wouldn't be inactive as town cuz' meta, etc. Like, all the points I can make on someone are somehow invalid because you think that you will be able to read everyone with meta. It's not how it should work. Meta can evolve, and you can try to play your town meta as scum. "Meta should be the icing on the cake not the whole fucking cake." Most people past d1 I ignore meta on, but if you saw some of vivax mafia games you would see I think what I mean because it's not really about a scum slip per se | ||
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I also think vivax last few posts have been good btw. | ||
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If I make it tomorrow it's worthwhile to take a look at lazy votes who just kind of fucked off or didn't care to consolidate. Vivax and palmar must answer those questions posed to,them as well. | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:12 NeverUnlucky wrote: Superbia, HF, and Damdred were all pushing for a Calix lynch after TT's flip. Calix scum-read Fuba, Skynx, Vivax, and Damdred. Those are the ones I would look into first. How the fuck was I pushing a calix lynch? | ||
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And as far as I know it was just super who thought calix was scum,bit he hasn't,been,back. | ||
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Oh well, idk how it's a scum slip though, if I was scum I'd be aware of no medic and just kill my most hated person to try to win against. I wish I was on an hf palmar scum team we would sew chaos | ||
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I just don't get nu bit at least I'm pretty sure hf dumb tell himself,town. | ||
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It sort of does me. Calix was his first scum read couldn't get them lynched. Tries to frame people for,things even though it's clear threatens doing them and keeps pushing shade for meh reasons and,ignoring tw even though he's been somewhat against him,but not,enough to,directly push him. | ||
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In any case kind of stinks that people who know me well think i would make such a bad kill as scum instead of someone who can actually get me lynched meh. | ||
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Well yeah its wifom, whatever just really don't feel up to doing anything today. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:20 Palmar wrote: Don't care (much) about lazy, care a lot about shitty logic. Its not logic its just the truth, you kill the people you think will most likely solve the game. Its not really a point either way. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:33 Palmar wrote: by that logic no one is mafia. Good job damdred, game solved. You know I had something typed out, but I won't say it. I'm sorry I posted something so shitty Palmar it was just out of frustration over things and wasn't thinking clearly. | ||
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Skynx/Tumblewood/(Shapelog/Vivax) is what my scum team looks like currently | ||
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Well I'm here now,so I'm the lynch it seems today? | ||
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Super are you going to vote for me today? | ||
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On September 14 2016 00:28 Superbia wrote: No idea yet. I will probably either vote more than half the thread or one person. I think there are close to four lock town people (outside myself) I think vivax, tw, sky are all decent votes. Fuba in not sure I'm could be but I'm not sure he feels like he is giving us what we want rather than what he thinks at points. | ||
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As for same game I'm not sure might be reading differently. And I'm not voting vivax I'd rather vote sky today tbh, or fuba I believe (don't want to,vote fuba) | ||
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On September 14 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote: Either way I have a dinner in 2-3 hours, dunno if I can make it for EoD. It's really really important we get a wagon going on fuba or super I don't want to come back and see a shenanny lynch. Going to take a closer look at Damdred, just gut wise he has been appearing scummier than when he was mafia in his last games (which would mean he's town) . This game feels like one of the games where everyone relies on tone reading people and when somebody (read:I) goes for post analysis it's rejected as irrelevant. Remember the me vs you vs yamato lylo damdred? I promise vivax before lynch there will be a pretty old Damdred post that isn't reliant totally on tone. And I'll look at your fuba case in depth by then as well. | ||
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On September 14 2016 01:51 Vivax wrote: Palmar you usually keep your distance from me as if I had leprosy, now you find my stuff on fuba solid and even think I'm new and improved? If your reads keep being wrong and you don't die in the night we will have a score to settle, you and I. Trying to be buds with me feels out of character you usually just ignore me or tell someone why I'm town, and then you never sound so praising (except when I'm smurfing and you don't know it's Vivax behind the name). This led me to check on Palmar, cause it's the only thing I could find in Damdred so far that seems unexplained. His other reads seem set in stone except the one on Palmar here. Then I see the post where he says "remember your place peon" (lol) and proceeds to coach the guy, so I just think he's town, for that and for gut. Mafia Damdred is nice guy Damdred/fake anger Damdred. I also don't think he would randomly put my name out there for scum if he were mafia. He'd be more comfy just tring me all the time. In other words, I think mafia is still super/fuba + shape/palmar/HF if alive for too long. Shape especially has dropped off a lot activity wise and if anyone is going to shenanny, shenanny on shape. I'll join you if I make it, at least one of the unreadables will be gone. Don't really have much else to add on him. Why do you think skynx is town btw? As for my read, the first post was in respect to a post he made that made me laugh and generally funny palmar is town. But we both know how weekend palmar is so,the best solution was to put him in the noose Monday until we saw what needed to,be done with him. That's neither here or there though. | ||
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1) You originally had shape in as a potential lynch target. You then go into,the lynch read his filter and go nvm guys he's fine filter wasn't so,bad. As night starts you then say oh nvm shape/Damdred +1. (You were also light defending me during the day and saying you might lynch me) What caused this change on shape, (this was before shape thought you looked scummy) Also why are you asking people about,me when you clearly had a s um read on me earlier in the day? | ||
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On September 14 2016 03:32 fuba wrote: Damdred, did you ever say why this was the case? I think you responded once, but in response to a different post or something. I don't think I ever did tbh. Never said something about the aggro and how you had been,defensive. I disagreed (this was mostly an exercise to see if anyone saw what I did). You were super nonchalant about the pressure, knew your answers would be enough and had no fear. All these things generally come from town or amazing mafia able to fake tone and those things. | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:06 Grackaroni wrote: Damdred, do you realize you're being lynched right now? I do realize that and I'm,not,to worried I'm trying,to read and get information so,I can hive it to,thread on,where my head is at a serious point. I don't think I'll be lynched but if I am I'm not to worried it just means I need to put more time to,the game and get a new phone next time. | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:24 Holyflare wrote: His read progression on tt was also some bs like "oh he's got scummy posts" into defending him from me and then into "oh tt is just a lurker vote" but all the while he town read me which is the biggest mafia trait of all. I will say his read on myself and shape (progression,) is really strange at points. | ||
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But shape is a mixed bag as well, some of his points feel ok but he sort of lacks the oomph he usually brings. But I felt really good about him when we were talking about sky it felt natural to an extent. | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:33 fuba wrote: I'm tempted to, because I'm completely unsure of damdred. Dunno if I've tried to go through too much too fast, but I can't even seem to think enough to make a decision on him. Calix's case had me going into his filter seeing him as scum already, and then I tried to pick it out myself on a readthrough and I couldn't do it. Maybe I was trying too hard to discount bias, maybe I'm letting myself be buddied, maybe I'm just too tired to focus after about 8 hours of (attempted) critical reading. It's down to either sheeping calix, NU, and scott, or going with my own scumread despite the fact that I have 4-5 other people to read still. Ugh, sticking with Damdred. The three I mentioned were able to read him in real time in the context of what was going on in the thread and come to an agreement. Class has already basically started, I can't think about it anymore today. This Is a bad post though | ||
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I just want you to say what you liked in shapes filter and why your progression on shape and myself went the way it did. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:17 Skynx wrote: If you mean this That was long time ago, near EoD I replied to Calix Damdred moved into soft scumread cuz his bad posts increased in quantity compared to good ones. After he made his case on me I scumread him. Wait so you have me in your list of lunches 50 minutes before you town read me? | ||
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It's not the other way around though. You literally say I might lynch Damdred and,not even an hour later you have me as soft town. And now you are trying to pass it off like you town read me then scum read me d1 when,that isn't the case. And in any respect you voted with me who you claim to,have thought was scum d1 near the end of d1. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:31 Holyflare wrote: Damdred has fallen off the face of the earth on the other hand How the flying fuck have I fallen off the face of,the earth when I've be an posting pre try regularly the past hour. I just don't get it | ||
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Which btw never having his lynch but not,really being around at all today is a bit strange to,me | ||
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Shaoelog is second, his soft push on skynx without any type of real,follow up and weak reasoning to agree with me feels like some way to lightly distance himself from sky if he was to,flip and I brought the lynch home. He also promised several times to do work bit never dis it. Earlier in the thread also he was angry and rather harsh when he normally wouldn't be as town. Not really involved in the thick of,th I,vs or,fixing reads just posting long posts and surviving up till now. The third I'm torn on I think we aren't,paying enough attention to never at this point, he has a couple,of res flags and fits the scum team. Look at his sky read during the night it reads like he should scum read him but town reads him instead. He does the same thing to tw, also he says he's coin,g around on me and then at day slams the vote down and,doesn't care about anything the rest of day. Effectively doing the same thing he yelled at us for on tt yesterday. | ||
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Pay day two days q.q need new phone. | ||
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Hf, super Vivax and palmar most likely town Tw and fuba are probably town I'd I'm wrong on anyone in ny list it's palmar If I'm lynched next game | ||
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So fuck you palmar regardless of alignment. | ||
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Cause I'll,come for you. | ||
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I barely can post and . My post a get fucking ignored anyway so just go on and lynch me,tomorrow I don't fucking care. Should,of just replaced when ny phone flushed. | ||
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And then everyone uses oh Damdred not,here when,the flip happens like 10 minutes after deadline to,scum read me. Its fucking shit and horrible,reasoning and all of you should know it. | ||
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And I hope he feels better from his sickness (love you bro) | ||
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I kinda want skynx to explain the sudden change of heart on me, maybe a doubles bus was there? I'm not sure, I sort of think unless there is a check on him we might should look elsewhere right now. | ||
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Theres no reason for HF, Palmar or vivax to be alive today over the people killed. This is obvious wifom, I sort of legitimately think HF is town though for somewhat bad reasoning beside the other things hes done in the game (the bad reasoning is his dumb tell he did earlier in the game about calix being a medic dodge). I really need to reread game and look at votes from yesterday and d1, but even super is bothering me now for whatever reason. | ||
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On a serious point, I don't get why you are over reacting to everything if your town Hf. (That I write anyways) . So what I think a dumb tell could,make you town I had it her reasons in my mind but couldn't go in depth. Your sudden over reaction to that is just stupid and weird. I don't think vivax us scum so far, but I don't want to lynch hf today either. However I would consider lynching super for the strange shape,progression and trying to be the hammer on a Damdred lynch over a shape lynch. Also another reason skynx could of been shot is that I am the ml that mafia wants and he hard town read me and wasn't going back. So,that is possible. Which could also (wifom) point to a palmar or superbia mafia. | ||
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Ges fighting in a way that looks like town trying to get his point across. And idk if I have ever seen vivax fight like this as scum (NOT A GOOD POINT). Besides that reads don't always make sense and vivax and hf were on the right lynch yesterday so I don't want to lynch either of you, | ||
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Which fuba is another person who deserves attention. Voted me to save himself, (he only had two votes) he then claims he is going to read me but basically comes up with a null read and ducks off. (Technically was a read he said that was biased by calix and never). Just looks like a super weird vote and not doing anything. Is a super/fuba-/shape team possible? I'm not sure the fuba being scum would explain the calix kill to a degree though. | ||
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On September 16 2016 06:47 Holyflare wrote: for someone that throws out free town reads 24/7 you sure are shit at actually throwing them on town Is this towards me? | ||
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On September 16 2016 06:59 Grackaroni wrote: Vivax's case is that HF is scum FOR moving on to the Shapelog lynch, so that's a pretty bad reason to lynch outside of them. Is there something you disagree with in his reasoning? This is a good summary: Why should I do something by someone else's logic instead of what I think on a situation? | ||
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There are two or three people's progression, who looks worse than either hf or vivax. And considering both flipped there read on me at one point during eod why is it such a big stretch that didn't influence them. Generally my policy is to not lynch the people who were on a successful lynch unless red checked | ||
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But just generally speaking I find mafia more to understand the setup than town when they aren't paying attention. In any case fuba being scum makes sense with a calix kill and wanting a Damdred lynch goes along with a skynx kill (also could point to an hf/palmar/vivax scum to but I'm not so sure on that onr) | ||
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Falling activity, really funky reasoning on tr shape when it looked like a chance I was the lynch set the manner down only to be thwarted in the last few seconds. Then immediately jumped on the it being a scum v scum without even trying to discern my alignment (when he was leaning town earlier in the day). The case on hf is interesting I give you that but I will not take part in that lynch_ (as I think he's still towny) and I don't think a lot of people will either. | ||
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Votes look manipulated somewhat and I don't want to lynch hf or vivax really. I'd much rather lynch super via and that's where my vote is going atm | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:30 Palmar wrote: Yeah no, damdred is 100% mafia for his progression on shapelog. He calls him town, then randomly moves him back to null, and shows absolutely no interest in lynching him until right when he's about to be lynched. This is also a misrepresentation of my filter, had him as null most of d1, had him as a maybe would lynch d1. Would rather lynch tt d1. Felt better about shape after a conversation in thread, near eod wrote a mini case why I thought he was scum and I was dying. Voted him to stay alive and he was in ny scum list. So this isn't really true | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:32 Vivax wrote: The votes are just as irrelevant as yesterday for analysis purposes. Don't let HF believe you that they mean anything. If we believed HF yesterday, Shape would still be alive. If you check around the time of this post. HF and super both try to get shape townread by arguing all the time about the VS vote, without actually having balls and calling shape town for it. They will say "why should we talk about a manipulated vote being alignment indicative at all?". The real question is: If the vote wasn't alignment indicative, why do they waste all the time talking about it? And call me suspicious for voting Shape? There's also this thing where HF says "Vote /m11 if Damdred is mafia" as a message to scott. When he votes outside /m11, why does HF assume the vote is manipulated, and not simply that Damdred isn't mafia? Plus HF's sudden change of reads on Damdred to have his bullshit reason to bus shape when it becomes evident. Here's HF's reads pre-deadline: So when it suits him, Damdred becomes town 5 min pre EoD so he gets a quick reason to bus shape. Before, while he still had a chance at changing sentiment, he pushed me and skynx who both voted Shape. When it's out of his hand, he adapts and votes shape cause he claims Damdred is town. And once the lynch is done, Damdred goes back to the mislynch pile and he doesn't know about him. This is a decent post though | ||
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I also hate that all three lunches are people who were on scum shape. Anyway I'm probably lynched here in any regard so this is what I think. Hf is possible scum here, he had a train ran against him d1, scum should,be more interested in lynching him in that situation instead of afking on tt. Vivax also puts up decent points. Super I'm more sure of. Doesn't care about game state, progression is weird on shape and how he reacts to each of the lunches. Including things I said earlier. Palmar and tw are the last two I'm a bit meh at. But I see more town in palmar than tw. It's a hard game and I've been busy so sorry about the effort this game. | ||
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That flip flop makes 0 sense in any progression. Hf hammer me if you have to but yrah | ||
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Like tw says I was everyone's second scum lynch and I survived again. However he fails to recognize I put myself in a position where if scum I'm basically suiciding letting town Hf or nu have the hammer power over me. And at least I voted scum this game unlike some people who have been 100% lynch Damdred this game. | ||
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People trying to steer the lynch only towards hf lynch and towards me should be looked at. Also fuba why did you tr ame | ||
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You scum read me yesterday and still lightly scum read me afterwards. Now you tr me that's all fine. But you say you wanted to lynch vivax but you voted with him even while saying you would lynch him even going as far as voting with your scum read on his wagon. You didn't help,hf push vivax and only moved to hf to hammer him after me. So if you could take me through your progression | ||
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Also to never and calix was super nice to play with you guys and hope to see you around more. To skynx well our tunnels weren't good but once we realized it made some decent moves. Cheers Live you hf. Also I had the most amazing nee York strip while I was out for anniversary was amazing. Ty rels for a great game | ||
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On September 21 2016 16:13 Calix wrote: I'm still not 100% accustomed to the site meta. I'm not much of a bussing person myself - it's not a standard site play from where I am from although distancing is very common - and the tendency to suddenly switch wagons at EOD is curious. We like to bus weak members of our scum team, and i'm not even 100% sure that Vivax voting shape was even a bus it was much more a distance thing and then our shenanigans took over eod 2 that gave him his cred. We love our shenanigans more than we like bussing I think, nothing like switching the lynch vote with less than a minute to go after a solid day of working out who is scum, RIP TH ELIFE | ||
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On September 21 2016 22:26 Half the Sky wrote: This is what I hate most about the current meta personally, 47h of work for those that did the work down the drain, and >90% of the time town get it wrong, you guys honestly got very lucky there as Shape wasn't able to defend himself (regardless of alignment), he's had issues where he's forced to disappear as both alignments. Holyflare lynch IMO was beyond awful. But the spirits/ghosts (unlike last game) saved it. I've made a post about this somewhere else (and talked to JAT about it). I think in some cases shenanigans are in fact necessary or good but for the most part I think we rely on them to much. Like take for example d2, Skynx and myself basically went full suicide mode because we both figured out the other person was town. It was a clear town tell to some extent (more for sky than myself that day). What are we to do anyway? Shape was always going to be in contention in the game because he was rather strange d1 and n1 was still al ittle off if you come to the conclusion that skynx was town. Was it lucky yes I think so, was it the right move given the context of the situation I think so as well. As for your lynch HF, yeah it was bad but we did almost pull off the switch to Vivax which would of been even better. IMO that day with both of our refusal to vote one another either we were both scum or we were both town hard aligning I do not think either of us were ever mafia. It was an unfortunate lynch but we still won. But yeah I would agree that shenanigans are used a bit to much now adays | ||
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