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On September 10 2016 09:36 Holyflare wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511964-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia-part-2?user=HolyflareBY THE WAY GUYS if Grackaroni's meta raeds weren't already 1000% genuine bull shit let's enlighten you to this filter!" Here is Grackroni using something I said in this game to call my scummy: Show nested quote +The third thing was just the sheer certainty from Holyflare: On September 09 2016 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will never in 1000 fiery years vote anyone other than ticktock today. Now, how about people open this said filter from my town game that Grackaroni uses to portray me as mafia and let's peruse the VERY FIRST PAGE LOL: Show nested quote +On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote:I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later I am definitely the same in other games. Strike one Grackaroni!
NOW, I found a nice tidbit in my other game too: Show nested quote +On August 08 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Wow Tumblewood with the hard defending.
I said I didn't like his posts because they were stiff and ALSO that I looked at his other game where he was town and it was different completely, so two factors that lead up to him being scummy. Not to mention he hasn't posted since either.
Why have you completely bypassed the argument that I made and then made a new argument to defend him?
Also, SL comes in the thread and doesn't say anything about lynching me, definitely probably mafia. this was from the Onegu game where I was town and pretty much have the exact same feelings as I do about Grackaroni in this game. My play is almost the same (maybe I should try this tactic as mafia some day  ) and somehow grack extrapolates that I'm mafia based on meta :D :D :D :D ok grack.
These are incredibly different scenarios. The Mderg quote was you saying you would be open to lynching Mderg after somebody suggested lynching him. The Sicklucker quote was something that you didn't follow through and never pushed. That's completely different from hard pushing some lurker with 5 posts for an entire day.
I have no idea what this TW thing is.
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It's not a big secret that I've made over exaggerated cases on people to generate discussion before but this one isn't just over exaggerated I'm actually pretty sure on it and it's definitely based off the first post he made that was imitating tfel's post from last game when vivax posted it out that led me there.
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On September 10 2016 09:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 16:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hahahaha sicklucker you're 1000% mafia. Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
More than what.....?
The only real moves I've done this game are started a wagon on probable mafia and cop checked to confirm. I'd say I've been 100% right so far. + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing. We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely: 1. Sicklucker Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
in a sick world . if mafia has a rolecop and checked gb and saw he was a miller then mafia hf would make this play. would be pretty sick but way too unlikely. could also just be mafia doing it for the lulz his last mafia performance he didnt acualy try at all and let him self get lynched day 1 with no effort. but hes probably town boring Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
We should probably acualy lynch hf if gb flips miller. onegu especially likes to throw rolecops in his games I think... Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here: Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
also shouldnt you have been like jailkeeped last night? vivax sure didnt save himself Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:On August 10 2016 21:12 GlowingBear wrote:
SL do you think HF is Mafia? if your town he is. I mean theres nothing I can do untill you flip either way. no ones not gonna lynch you today including me. But if you are town hes 100% a mafia rolecop. If thats true he saw I was right and is trying to set me up. or he could just be an idiot its hard to tell Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:24 sicklucker wrote:
Like its acualy insane that hf believes I slipped about a second miller which is pretty fucking unluckly in a 13 player setup. The fact he thinks its almost a certainty rather then a slim chance like I think is interesting. are lawyers not good at probability? Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:25 sicklucker wrote:
either way this game will be fun if gb flips miller. a good old battle royale. If he flips mafia so boring Show nested quote +On August 11 2016 13:59 sicklucker wrote:
ya my role cop scenario acualy makes alot of sense when you think about thanks grack for proving im not crazy. is it likely? hell no I have always said this Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING. Mafia chance: 100% hahahaha all things debunking this
Again this is a false equivalence. This is from when SL came up with a role claim theory on you and you were convinced that he had slipped. It's not you seeing some meh posts and going ham on some lurker.
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Brb really quick I have to go get something lol
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it is an incredible amount of hubris and stupidity (or + Show Spoiler [cough cough] +) to act like you have a solid scumread on someone after their first post. entrance reads are always bs.
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No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.
It's a very strong opening.
But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:
On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia?
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And no shit I have a ridiculous ego when has that been news to anyone? You literally just played a game where I was egoing 24/7 as mafia with me.
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If you have no counter to this TT case then you are just detracting from it and are being useless, please stop being useless and get back in line to sheeping me.
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Tumblewood and/or Grack perhaps responding to something actually relevant would be good:
On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
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Grack why have you bypassed this to solely talk about me instead of Ticktock like you asked for in the first place? This is a great post and he's definitely mafia.
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This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"
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aka it just doesn't ever really happen unless you're mafia trying to blend
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also totally novel read but I'm not town reading any of the new players at all
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On September 10 2016 10:06 Holyflare wrote:
also totally novel read but I'm not town reading any of the new players at all
I would feel concerned if you read our posts.
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On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
I have no idea what you're trying to make out of this but all I see is hogwash. Really this seems like a whole lot of effort to try to portray some minor thing as some huge scum slip.
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On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"
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Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.
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On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT posted no content
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia?
Grackaroni's take:
TT's filter looks like a pretty standard lurker filter
HF launches crusade with questionable reasons for why TT is scum.
(referring to my 3 points in my longer post)
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If you can't see the mafia motivation about this then that's a pathetic and catastrophic failure on your part and you are extremely likely to be mafia because this is without a doubt the scummiest thing in the thread so far.
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On September 10 2016 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
I am on a righteous crusade to lynch Grack and this train has no brakes.
TT/Grack may or may not be together and I can't decide based on unflipped associations but one of them is certainly mafia and it's increasingly looking like the guy hard defending an afk scummy poster.
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Pic stolen shamelessly from Palmar.
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