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Thank you for the answers, Scott. Now I have a question for Xatalos:
On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Stutters
A more controversial pick for green color, perhaps, but I agree with whoever said that it would be extremely rare for scum to immediately throw a strong townread on their teammate like Lunatic did. It would only link them together in everyone's minds (something scum would definitely not want) and make the other look bad/scum if the other flips. In addition, it wouldn't come naturally as a careless throwaway comment like how Lunatic said it. It just fits so much better as a casual, too strong townread on someone he would know to be town in advance. Also, I have an interesting theory related to Stutters, but that's best left for later.
I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. stutters didn't vote?
There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really...
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On October 01 2016 01:08 Xatalos wrote:Finally back. Expected Calix over Rels, but maybe dodged or something. Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 09:59 DanelerH wrote:Thank you for the answers, Scott. Now I have a question for Xatalos: On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Stutters
A more controversial pick for green color, perhaps, but I agree with whoever said that it would be extremely rare for scum to immediately throw a strong townread on their teammate like Lunatic did. It would only link them together in everyone's minds (something scum would definitely not want) and make the other look bad/scum if the other flips. In addition, it wouldn't come naturally as a careless throwaway comment like how Lunatic said it. It just fits so much better as a casual, too strong townread on someone he would know to be town in advance. Also, I have an interesting theory related to Stutters, but that's best left for later. I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. stutters didn't vote?
There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really... Sorry, it's confidential for now... And not entirely certain. I'll say my thought there when the time is right. However, I'll counter by asking... Where are you going with these questions to different players?
Sorry, it's confidential for now...
In all serious, though, I noticed a correlation between Superbia and Rels. They were both suspicious of Scott, which is why I started by questioning xem. Judging by Scott's answers, I feel like xe might be leaning Town. They were also both suspicious of you, so I questioned you next. Based on your answer, you're sounding less Town.
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On October 01 2016 02:24 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 06:39 DanelerH wrote:On September 29 2016 06:34 DoYouHas wrote:On September 29 2016 06:24 Calix wrote:
Actually I have one question. DYH, who are you going to vote for and why? Don't spend ages on answering this, lol. ##Vote: ScottI've been thinking about Superbia's kill. There are 4 reasons I can think of for it. 1. Medic dodge. 2. Town is off track, didn't want a fresh vet voice changing things 3. Superbia is on right track 4. WIFOM salad #1 is obviously the case. With their RB gone they aren't going to target Calix (most townread person N1). #2 is iffy. Obviously taking out a fresh voice in Superbia accomplishes this, but he isn't heavily townread and he has stated repeatedly that he was going to be lazy this game. #3 is the most likely case. After losing your RB the first night you can't risk someone with correct suspicions putting you down 0-2. Most common reason to kill someone, also makes the most sense from the mafia perspective this game. #4 is very unlikely. There are too many people who have established themselves decently as town, too many people more productive than Superbia. ##Vote DHY ???
I had bolded scenarios 1 and 3, thinking at the time that DYH contradicted xemself, which sounded like another reason to vote for xem. DYH had mentioned later that the cases weren't exclusive, which I didn't think of at the time. Even after that, though, the evidence against xem was still strong enough that I didn't wish to change my vote.
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On October 01 2016 03:08 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:31 DanelerH wrote:On October 01 2016 01:08 Xatalos wrote:Finally back. Expected Calix over Rels, but maybe dodged or something. On September 30 2016 09:59 DanelerH wrote:Thank you for the answers, Scott. Now I have a question for Xatalos: On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Stutters
A more controversial pick for green color, perhaps, but I agree with whoever said that it would be extremely rare for scum to immediately throw a strong townread on their teammate like Lunatic did. It would only link them together in everyone's minds (something scum would definitely not want) and make the other look bad/scum if the other flips. In addition, it wouldn't come naturally as a careless throwaway comment like how Lunatic said it. It just fits so much better as a casual, too strong townread on someone he would know to be town in advance. Also, I have an interesting theory related to Stutters, but that's best left for later. I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. stutters didn't vote?
There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really... Sorry, it's confidential for now... And not entirely certain. I'll say my thought there when the time is right. However, I'll counter by asking... Where are you going with these questions to different players? Sorry, it's confidential for now... In all serious, though, I noticed a correlation between Superbia and Rels. They were both suspicious of Scott, which is why I started by questioning xem. Judging by Scott's answers, I feel like xe might be leaning Town. They were also both suspicious of you, so I questioned you next. Based on your answer, you're sounding less Town. Can you expand on what you thought was towny about Scott's response and what was scummy about Xata's?
I don't like how Xatalos is unwilling to share the theory about Stutters. For Scott, the answers were straightforward and sounded like they came from Town.
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On October 01 2016 03:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 03:17 DanelerH wrote:On October 01 2016 03:08 Tictock wrote:On October 01 2016 02:31 DanelerH wrote:On October 01 2016 01:08 Xatalos wrote:Finally back. Expected Calix over Rels, but maybe dodged or something. On September 30 2016 09:59 DanelerH wrote:Thank you for the answers, Scott. Now I have a question for Xatalos: On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Stutters
A more controversial pick for green color, perhaps, but I agree with whoever said that it would be extremely rare for scum to immediately throw a strong townread on their teammate like Lunatic did. It would only link them together in everyone's minds (something scum would definitely not want) and make the other look bad/scum if the other flips. In addition, it wouldn't come naturally as a careless throwaway comment like how Lunatic said it. It just fits so much better as a casual, too strong townread on someone he would know to be town in advance. Also, I have an interesting theory related to Stutters, but that's best left for later. I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. stutters didn't vote?
There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really... Sorry, it's confidential for now... And not entirely certain. I'll say my thought there when the time is right. However, I'll counter by asking... Where are you going with these questions to different players? Sorry, it's confidential for now... In all serious, though, I noticed a correlation between Superbia and Rels. They were both suspicious of Scott, which is why I started by questioning xem. Judging by Scott's answers, I feel like xe might be leaning Town. They were also both suspicious of you, so I questioned you next. Based on your answer, you're sounding less Town. Can you expand on what you thought was towny about Scott's response and what was scummy about Xata's? I don't like how Xatalos is unwilling to share the theory about Stutters. For Scott, the answers were straightforward and sounded like they came from Town. Is this a tone read or is it something specific that he said? From what I've seen of Scott, he is a concise person in general.
I suppose it's more of a tone read, but I still find the straightforward answers more Town-indicative then Xatalos' answer.
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As much as I'd still like to lynch Stutters, Tictock's case against Scott seems really strong. I think I'll wait to see what Scott says in xyr defense, then make a decision.
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On October 02 2016 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Was there only one comment on Tictock's case or did I miss something?
I think there were two: the first was after the Lunatic section and the second was after the reads section.
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I don't like Scott's defense. Xe only made two comments about the case. The second one bothers me quite a bit.
On October 02 2016 03:15 scott31337 wrote:
THESE ARE ALMOST THE SAME FUCKING READS YOU HAVE! SO WHY AM I MAFIA?
Who you read isn't the point. It's that they're sudden changes from what they were, with nothing to indicate the changes. Other than this and the comment about the interactions with Luna, xe didn't attempt to defend xymself at all. Still, I can't help but feel like I would rather lynch Stutters.
##Vote Stutters
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Town
Superbia
SEQ/Tictock
Ptmc
Rels
Calix
DHY
Leaning Town
Scott
Mafia
Stutters
Lunaticman
Jealous
Skynx
Xatalos
On October 02 2016 05:14 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 05:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 02 2016 05:01 Stutters695 wrote:On October 02 2016 04:58 Xatalos wrote:On October 02 2016 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm town guys. I truly am sorry for not being more active.
Anyway, once I flip town:
Lynch Scott. Last scum is hiding somewhere between Skynx, ptmc, TT and jealous. I'll try to read them before I get lynched.
Don't lynch Xata tomorrow.
##vote: scott31337 Please start shooting townie rainbows all over me to A) prevent me from having to do something possibly stupid if you're town and especially to B) make sure you're actually town and I'm not doing something truly terrible. If you can do that, that would be the absolute best scenario. Just don't lol. It's ok if I die. Really? I barely played and people here don't take stock in meta reads. It wouldn't do much good I'd wager.
On October 02 2016 05:16 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote:On October 02 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:On October 02 2016 05:01 Stutters695 wrote:On October 02 2016 04:58 Xatalos wrote:On October 02 2016 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm town guys. I truly am sorry for not being more active.
Anyway, once I flip town:
Lynch Scott. Last scum is hiding somewhere between Skynx, ptmc, TT and jealous. I'll try to read them before I get lynched.
Don't lynch Xata tomorrow.
##vote: scott31337 Please start shooting townie rainbows all over me to A) prevent me from having to do something possibly stupid if you're town and especially to B) make sure you're actually town and I'm not doing something truly terrible. If you can do that, that would be the absolute best scenario. Just don't lol. It's ok if I die. This post actually changes some things. But ask yourselves: would scum stutters make this post? Or would town stutters? I'm sorry Xat, I just don't believe it's a coincidence Stutters shows up acting like he's got reads almost as soon as his counter wagon looses about the only steam it had going for it. Everything he's said is just pulling shit off the top of his head. To answer that question, scum!Stutters would do anything he has to to stay alive right now. I mean I think the post he made right before that said he had to vote Scott kus surviving was pretty important. scum!Stutters would have never let it get to this point lol. This type of town is the easiest to coast through unnoticed because of the activity level.
This only makes me more suspicious of xym.
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