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On June 29 2016 03:14 Damdred wrote:
Why wouldn't it be a good thing mass claim with a tracker that claimed to track you to the kp.
It was a kneejerk reaction and you brought it up way too early; like, before anything Superbia said was confirmed. Seemed like you were eager to get everyone's claims out in the open so scum could have an easier killing streak to the upset win.
Don't understand why you have highlighted about me being vindicated. You always Lynch the red check unless you have a cc obviously.
I'm not sure how much I can stick on this point because I am getting the impression that you are either foreign or your English is not that strong (perhaps this is influenced by your auto-correct issues). However, vindicated means:
1. clear (someone) of blame or suspicion.
2. show or prove to be right, reasonable, or justified.
Both definitions point to you as being the one who read TT as scum and therefore you 1. are clear of blame or 2. are proven to be right, reasonable, or justified. If you had made a strong case on TT prior, then perhaps 2 may apply, but your follow-up reasoning here ("You always lynch the red check...") simply does not logically fit into this scenario. Your statement should have been "I was vindicated because I was scumreading TT from the start," as opposed to "I was vindicated because I voted in a logical manner."
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Not reading yet btw. Still have some stuff to do.
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On June 29 2016 03:23 Superbia wrote:
Jealous how do you feel about your d1?
I tried to make the best of a bad situation. As I explained in one of my first posts, I really had no time to be a participant at all up until the last few hours before EoD. I answered the Art vs. QT questio prematurely because I only read a few pages prior to being asked about it as opposed to the whole argument, which I'm not proud of. I like to do a thorough job, especially when answering questions, and I didn't do it there. I started making reads towards EoD which took a good chunk of time but I didn't make them as detailed as I had in the Newbie game because I was running out of time and wanted to get them out before N1.
In the end, I feel that I put out more content than at least a few of the other players D1, which was my intention. To more directly answer your question, I am not happy with my D1 but it was the best I could do under the circumstances.
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On June 29 2016 03:14 Damdred wrote:
Don't understand why you have highlighted about me being vindicated. You always Lynch the red check unless you have a cc obviously.
Because you claimed that you had been thinking about me being town during the night and that is why you were considering the wanderer/Super being scum stuff.
Point being that you didn't really start thinking about that stuff till Jealous brought it up and after I had reacted to Super's claim.
So just more of what you say not really matching up with what happened.
It's possible I'm just really tunneled here, but sometimes there is light at the end of a tunnel...
Also Jealous is the only other person being considered atm and I don't really think he is scum.
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Also that is like 2 times that Jealous and I are mindmelding on stuff...
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Now I will construct my argument for a Damdred scumlean:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?user=Damdred
If you look at the first page of his filter, he is all over the place. He gives out reads like candy with little to no substance, asks questions to multiple people about multiple other people which can all be boiled down to a simple "Why?" This seems like a classic case of misdirection and activity for the sake of activity. While the questions are pushing the game forward slightly (albeit blindly), he seems to mostly be building up his post count.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.
Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.
Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn On June 25 2016 08:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm just saying don't make any judgements about moose till d2 as he will mostly be trollin. But unimportant.
Well tumble just a gut feeling, his sort of dodging super and being kinda meh got me,there. I think there was one answer in particular about super if I remember right that bugged me. It's still early
Here he gives the advice to outright ignore Moosy, as opposed to my stance which was "Moosy is not helping town." Yet, he seems it fitting to judge me for my stance? Hypocrisy at its finest. He pretty much gives him a free pass into D2.
In the second quote you can also see how he makes a soft push with gut but then takes a step back within two lines; this is quintessential fluff posting, that if skimmed over may seem like he is trying to work out the game but it really contributes nothing.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Idk why I'm taking this game serious: (. I think because I live the host and cohosts
How exactly is he taking this game seriously up until this point? This seems like one of those things where if read in a vacuum, it serves to establish himself was useful when he's been anything but.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me Gliwingbear ever.
Anyeay, art is right I'm trying to dial in so I'm a good person to sheep.
As for the day pass yeah I generally give moosey one and it serves ok. It's like giving ls a day pass just works so well.
All-around terrible post that is also revealing.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.
Its good though keep it up.
"It's good though, let's let two people who I townread continue fighting in order to waste more time in D1."
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of
Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred
D1 pass moosey
So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.
This is the third time he has mentioned a D1 pass for Moosy in under 20 posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:19 Damdred wrote:
Man chez is so town I feel he's going at the top of my town circle. Seriously.
The house of brown is great can I be a member this game chez and bring the politics of brown here?
Anyway I really can't substantiate my reads tonight as I'm in a movie I'll do it tommorow. And they all can be broke down as meta/shallow reasons atm. But my early gut reads are good meh.
I want to hear more on emperor and want tt to be in thread
Another freepass to Chez a la Artanis. "House of Brown" - doesn't take much intelligence to realize that this means playing a vague Red/Green alignment? What benefit does this have to town? Why does Damdred suck up to this mentality and want to become a participant in this detrimental and vague practice?
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today
Tt, sk, Jin, jealous
Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.
But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet.
Mostly policy reads so this is excusable, but giving a pass to EC? That's 2/2 scum D1 passes granted. How do you get off on questioning MY reads of EC/Moosy on D1 when this is your stance?
More to come.
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Tt just some friendly advice you really need to take a step back sometimes.
Also if I wasn't considering it why did I write long posts talking to you specifically talk to you during the night backed off of the aggro and try to figure things out while we were both here?
Kind of weak just saying I only did it when jealous said it, I went way above and beyond the call for hashing out possibilities
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On June 29 2016 03:37 Damdred wrote:
Tt just some friendly advice you really need to take a step back sometimes.
Yea I know... Or I just need to work on getting tunneled on the right people more often...
This is why I thought Art's argument for me being scum kus my reads weren't really changing was laughably bad.
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To bad your on the wrong person meh
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On June 29 2016 03:35 Jealous wrote:Now I will construct my argument for a Damdred scumlean: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?user=DamdredIf you look at the first page of his filter, he is all over the place. He gives out reads like candy with little to no substance, asks questions to multiple people about multiple other people which can all be boiled down to a simple "Why?" This seems like a classic case of misdirection and activity for the sake of activity. While the questions are pushing the game forward slightly (albeit blindly), he seems to mostly be building up his post count. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.
Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.
Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn On June 25 2016 08:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm just saying don't make any judgements about moose till d2 as he will mostly be trollin. But unimportant.
Well tumble just a gut feeling, his sort of dodging super and being kinda meh got me,there. I think there was one answer in particular about super if I remember right that bugged me. It's still early Here he gives the advice to outright ignore Moosy, as opposed to my stance which was "Moosy is not helping town." Yet, he seems it fitting to judge me for my stance? Hypocrisy at its finest. He pretty much gives him a free pass into D2. In the second quote you can also see how he makes a soft push with gut but then takes a step back within two lines; this is quintessential fluff posting, that if skimmed over may seem like he is trying to work out the game but it really contributes nothing. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Idk why I'm taking this game serious: (. I think because I live the host and cohosts How exactly is he taking this game seriously up until this point? This seems like one of those things where if read in a vacuum, it serves to establish himself was useful when he's been anything but. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me Gliwingbear ever.
Anyeay, art is right I'm trying to dial in so I'm a good person to sheep.
As for the day pass yeah I generally give moosey one and it serves ok. It's like giving ls a day pass just works so well. All-around terrible post that is also revealing. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.
Its good though keep it up. "It's good though, let's let two people who I townread continue fighting in order to waste more time in D1." + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of
Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred
D1 pass moosey
So already we have a nice schmuck taken out. This is the third time he has mentioned a D1 pass for Moosy in under 20 posts. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:19 Damdred wrote:
Man chez is so town I feel he's going at the top of my town circle. Seriously.
The house of brown is great can I be a member this game chez and bring the politics of brown here?
Anyway I really can't substantiate my reads tonight as I'm in a movie I'll do it tommorow. And they all can be broke down as meta/shallow reasons atm. But my early gut reads are good meh.
I want to hear more on emperor and want tt to be in thread Another freepass to Chez a la Artanis. "House of Brown" - doesn't take much intelligence to realize that this means playing a vague Red/Green alignment? What benefit does this have to town? Why does Damdred suck up to this mentality and want to become a participant in this detrimental and vague practice? + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today
Tt, sk, Jin, jealous
Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.
But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet. Mostly policy reads so this is excusable, but giving a pass to EC? That's 2/2 scum D1 passes granted. How do you get off on questioning MY reads of EC/Moosy on D1 when this is your stance? More to come.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?
This post is terrible, largely because his scum reads ARE shitty (TT, SK, JVJ, Jealous) because they were all policy lynches. Those are base level scum reads. You make those based on a lack of content as opposed to anything actually said.
His townreads ARE super lazy and his stance is NOT vindicated by the fact that they are the popular reads at this juncture; popularity does not imply that his reads had any substance to begin with. He gave out townreads with zero evidence, which is super lazy. Also, super easy if you actually do know who town is, being scum.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 00:43 Damdred wrote:
Give good reasoning on them right now TT. since you want to lambast all of my reads and say they are all shit lets see it with a decent explanation.
Instead of proffering any explanation on his own reads, he pushes TT to explain HIS.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 01:09 Damdred wrote:
But on the other hand kind of want to townreads tt....hrmmm decisions come after food
Already flip-flopping only 26 minutes after the prior post; maybe he decided that TT was not an easy target anymore? Or maybe he wanted to appease TT so that TT wouldn't counter-pressure him into actually substantiating any of his claims?
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.
And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick.
Flips on TT yet again. Also tries to divert attention from Moosy yet again.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?
I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.
It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes
The summary of all of his (multiple) posts trying to get into a position of power. No substance at all besides "I'm a good player, guys!"
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 22:25 Damdred wrote:
Nobody else over moosey super?
How can one defend Moosy so much and get away with it?
He goes on to make some long posts @Superbia where he actually does provide some content and explanations, but still pushes for a policy lynch on me.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:05 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Jesus you guys give people free town passes too easily Nope
Lol.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:26 Damdred wrote:
Dear God super I've explained twice why I think jealous is mafia. For asking me so many questions you aren't reading ny posts at all?
I've been well,documented thinking Tt is scum
More like he stated multiple times why he wants to lynch me for inactivity and flip-flopped on TT multiple times.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:57 Damdred wrote:
I won't vote gb or super and neither should have the pardoned position.
And gb it's because you don't do well with these sorts of decisions tbh.
While I tr both all a sudden the last few pages have made me kind of suspicious on super just seems off now.
I would like to be pardoner or mayor. There will always be debate but I am one of the best players in this game. And idk why art isn't voting for me rip.
I have to check the timestamp but I think this is before he votes GB. This is another one of his "I am the best player, so I should be mayor," and another buttbuddy request to Art and Chez, a few of which I have omitted above because that's all they really are.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:12 Damdred wrote:
Where did I give ec a pass I've been,trying to decide if he's scum or been for awhile I didn't,mind his early posts. And these later ones aren't horrid he's at least thinking. On June 27 2016 02:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today
Tt, sk, Jin, jealous
Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.
But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet. Gen I guess I did give him a halfway day pass
Horrible lie, good thing he got called for it.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:19 Damdred wrote:
I'm trying to remember what I was seeing. I think he said some things that were ok but kinda side lined wanted to see more from him.
But I probably would retract it but he's had some decent posts and went after a hard target so idk if I would lynch today
This is about EC.
"I'm trying to remember what I was seeing," when not too long prior he was supposedly reading filters, which he still could have done in order to better answer this question. Still hadn't given any concrete evidence thus far.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder:
I AM NAMED VT
Vote me for mayor but REMEMBER TO SPREAD YOUR VOTES WITH SOMEONE VERY TOWNIE
Don't just vote me or you'll let Mafia have an easy time to decide the pardonner Whether or not this is true, this is such a good play since you won't be able to be cop read once you are pardoner. Actually has anybody discussed this, other than the fact that it's pretty much un-cc'able? I would feel OK about this if it were any other green / blue role. Ec can be town today. Its a good thought.
Although I agreed with this at the time, and still do (about it being a good thought), in the context of Damdred's posts I wouldn't think it surprising that this is an example of collusion in a Mafia QT in order to have EC save some face and Damdred jumped on it instantly.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:05 Damdred wrote:
Ooooo crap jealous is scum.
He was the first to scum read chez and hasn't played with him.
Come brothers it,must be done.
So quick to create a wagon on me and suck up to Chez, in one breath and with no other rationale.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:08 Damdred wrote:
God the more I read the jealous post the more I hate it.
The gb read doesn't make sense at all, it sounds like a scum read for lack of activity no real contribution to the game. But town leans him anyway.
God that's craxy On June 27 2016 05:09 Damdred wrote:
Like jealous isn't even reading the game it seems as its clear why gb is getting mayor because he's claimed blue lol? On June 27 2016 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Just feels nm so fabricated idk what else to say about jealous reads.
A lot of safe reads I think or ones that seem safe.
Maybe I'm tainted by a bit of omgus but the list just seems strange to me. On June 27 2016 05:17 Damdred wrote:
Idc about that now, really want other people's opinions about jealous read post. Really everyone weigh in On June 27 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing though jealous the whole,basis for gb running for mayor is in his filter.
And also your read still sounds like a scum read that ends in a non logical concussion.
Would still lynch Tt first for,not doing anything at all On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah
Ironic when 1. he misread my GB read in the first place and 2. he has done far less in order to substantiate his own claims.
Pushes very hard for my or TT lynch. Is this what he meant by vindicated?
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on
Some things don't change.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 07:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 07:13 Chezinu wrote:On June 27 2016 06:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:42 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Art I think w should move jealous up into the probably town.
Had a thought about him and his moosey read. Jean had a decent shot being mayor and lynching moosey wouldn't be a bad play to hard bus moosey there. Instead he gives a pretty good rationale read of a null.
Also even though moosey was about to flip scum he continued to give us reads because he had them, done.
Its kind of weak and,maybe a bit dumb but I think he's town now.
Why is sk so High again? I thought he was town already but yeah that's good reasoning. Skynx is that high because of his case on me which I find difficult to come from newbie scum. On June 27 2016 06:38 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:33 Jealous wrote:
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Could you elaborate on why Chezinu is such a strong townread for you? I didn't see anything in his filter that would make me townread him, especially not so strongly. Start of my filter  To me this makes the rest of your reads feel diluted if you are mixing in joke reads into them. What are your true feelings about Chezinu's filter? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. No offense, but I find bias to be a poor mentality for this sort of game. Let me rephrase the question - What are your objective thoughts on Chezinu's filter? In other words, if you were not his friend, what would you make of his participation so far? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. I don't like this answer ): Objectively analyzing a filter and sharing your conclusions would be to the benefit of the town, and you are dodging the responsibility. I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. Think he is jealous? Are we friends chez?
He's STILL pushing this alliance, so desperately. I'm not surprised that Art jumped on his bandwagon against me now.
Everything after this is more recent.
So, conclusions:
1. Weak early game that he tries to claim was strong.
2. Baseless pushes for mayor/pardoner.
3. Constantly sucking up to Chez/Artanis in order to get a townie alliance going.
4. A lot of hypocrisy and flip-flopping.
5. A lot of EC/Moosy defense and free-pass giving.
##Vote Damdred
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On June 28 2016 11:56 Damdred wrote:
Actually it's a little scary tbh,
Super can claim RB for rest of game and that's why they don't kill him.
It's a play I would make with that information and they could have the info 100% makes sense with how tt been playing. He's been playing like he's a power role with how he doesn't care he's a good person to check...
Idk easiest and hopeful solution is tt is scum, but idk some of his interchanges with me make me think he might not be. I'm just paranoid I know but..
I was going to leave this alone and do other stuff for a bit but accidentally put this quote in another window and just ran across it.
This is a very interesting opinion of my play given you've been calling me scum all game.
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On June 29 2016 04:16 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 03:35 Jealous wrote:Now I will construct my argument for a Damdred scumlean: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?user=DamdredIf you look at the first page of his filter, he is all over the place. He gives out reads like candy with little to no substance, asks questions to multiple people about multiple other people which can all be boiled down to a simple "Why?" This seems like a classic case of misdirection and activity for the sake of activity. While the questions are pushing the game forward slightly (albeit blindly), he seems to mostly be building up his post count. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.
Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.
Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn On June 25 2016 08:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm just saying don't make any judgements about moose till d2 as he will mostly be trollin. But unimportant.
Well tumble just a gut feeling, his sort of dodging super and being kinda meh got me,there. I think there was one answer in particular about super if I remember right that bugged me. It's still early Here he gives the advice to outright ignore Moosy, as opposed to my stance which was "Moosy is not helping town." Yet, he seems it fitting to judge me for my stance? Hypocrisy at its finest. He pretty much gives him a free pass into D2. In the second quote you can also see how he makes a soft push with gut but then takes a step back within two lines; this is quintessential fluff posting, that if skimmed over may seem like he is trying to work out the game but it really contributes nothing. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Idk why I'm taking this game serious: (. I think because I live the host and cohosts How exactly is he taking this game seriously up until this point? This seems like one of those things where if read in a vacuum, it serves to establish himself was useful when he's been anything but. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me Gliwingbear ever.
Anyeay, art is right I'm trying to dial in so I'm a good person to sheep.
As for the day pass yeah I generally give moosey one and it serves ok. It's like giving ls a day pass just works so well. All-around terrible post that is also revealing. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.
Its good though keep it up. "It's good though, let's let two people who I townread continue fighting in order to waste more time in D1." + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of
Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred
D1 pass moosey
So already we have a nice schmuck taken out. This is the third time he has mentioned a D1 pass for Moosy in under 20 posts. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:19 Damdred wrote:
Man chez is so town I feel he's going at the top of my town circle. Seriously.
The house of brown is great can I be a member this game chez and bring the politics of brown here?
Anyway I really can't substantiate my reads tonight as I'm in a movie I'll do it tommorow. And they all can be broke down as meta/shallow reasons atm. But my early gut reads are good meh.
I want to hear more on emperor and want tt to be in thread Another freepass to Chez a la Artanis. "House of Brown" - doesn't take much intelligence to realize that this means playing a vague Red/Green alignment? What benefit does this have to town? Why does Damdred suck up to this mentality and want to become a participant in this detrimental and vague practice? + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today
Tt, sk, Jin, jealous
Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.
But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet. Mostly policy reads so this is excusable, but giving a pass to EC? That's 2/2 scum D1 passes granted. How do you get off on questioning MY reads of EC/Moosy on D1 when this is your stance? More to come. + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly? This post is terrible, largely because his scum reads ARE shitty (TT, SK, JVJ, Jealous) because they were all policy lynches. Those are base level scum reads. You make those based on a lack of content as opposed to anything actually said. His townreads ARE super lazy and his stance is NOT vindicated by the fact that they are the popular reads at this juncture; popularity does not imply that his reads had any substance to begin with. He gave out townreads with zero evidence, which is super lazy. Also, super easy if you actually do know who town is, being scum. + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 00:43 Damdred wrote:
Give good reasoning on them right now TT. since you want to lambast all of my reads and say they are all shit lets see it with a decent explanation. Instead of proffering any explanation on his own reads, he pushes TT to explain HIS. + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 01:09 Damdred wrote:
But on the other hand kind of want to townreads tt....hrmmm decisions come after food Already flip-flopping only 26 minutes after the prior post; maybe he decided that TT was not an easy target anymore? Or maybe he wanted to appease TT so that TT wouldn't counter-pressure him into actually substantiating any of his claims? + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.
And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick. Flips on TT yet again. Also tries to divert attention from Moosy yet again. + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?
I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.
It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes The summary of all of his (multiple) posts trying to get into a position of power. No substance at all besides "I'm a good player, guys!" + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2016 22:25 Damdred wrote:
Nobody else over moosey super? How can one defend Moosy so much and get away with it? He goes on to make some long posts @Superbia where he actually does provide some content and explanations, but still pushes for a policy lynch on me. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:05 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Jesus you guys give people free town passes too easily Nope Lol. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:26 Damdred wrote:
Dear God super I've explained twice why I think jealous is mafia. For asking me so many questions you aren't reading ny posts at all?
I've been well,documented thinking Tt is scum More like he stated multiple times why he wants to lynch me for inactivity and flip-flopped on TT multiple times. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 00:57 Damdred wrote:
I won't vote gb or super and neither should have the pardoned position.
And gb it's because you don't do well with these sorts of decisions tbh.
While I tr both all a sudden the last few pages have made me kind of suspicious on super just seems off now.
I would like to be pardoner or mayor. There will always be debate but I am one of the best players in this game. And idk why art isn't voting for me rip.
I have to check the timestamp but I think this is before he votes GB. This is another one of his "I am the best player, so I should be mayor," and another buttbuddy request to Art and Chez, a few of which I have omitted above because that's all they really are. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:12 Damdred wrote:
Where did I give ec a pass I've been,trying to decide if he's scum or been for awhile I didn't,mind his early posts. And these later ones aren't horrid he's at least thinking. On June 27 2016 02:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today
Tt, sk, Jin, jealous
Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.
But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet. Gen I guess I did give him a halfway day pass Horrible lie, good thing he got called for it. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:19 Damdred wrote:
I'm trying to remember what I was seeing. I think he said some things that were ok but kinda side lined wanted to see more from him.
But I probably would retract it but he's had some decent posts and went after a hard target so idk if I would lynch today This is about EC. "I'm trying to remember what I was seeing," when not too long prior he was supposedly reading filters, which he still could have done in order to better answer this question. Still hadn't given any concrete evidence thus far. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder:
I AM NAMED VT
Vote me for mayor but REMEMBER TO SPREAD YOUR VOTES WITH SOMEONE VERY TOWNIE
Don't just vote me or you'll let Mafia have an easy time to decide the pardonner Whether or not this is true, this is such a good play since you won't be able to be cop read once you are pardoner. Actually has anybody discussed this, other than the fact that it's pretty much un-cc'able? I would feel OK about this if it were any other green / blue role. Ec can be town today. Its a good thought. Although I agreed with this at the time, and still do (about it being a good thought), in the context of Damdred's posts I wouldn't think it surprising that this is an example of collusion in a Mafia QT in order to have EC save some face and Damdred jumped on it instantly. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:05 Damdred wrote:
Ooooo crap jealous is scum.
He was the first to scum read chez and hasn't played with him.
Come brothers it,must be done. So quick to create a wagon on me and suck up to Chez, in one breath and with no other rationale. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:08 Damdred wrote:
God the more I read the jealous post the more I hate it.
The gb read doesn't make sense at all, it sounds like a scum read for lack of activity no real contribution to the game. But town leans him anyway.
God that's craxy On June 27 2016 05:09 Damdred wrote:
Like jealous isn't even reading the game it seems as its clear why gb is getting mayor because he's claimed blue lol? On June 27 2016 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Just feels nm so fabricated idk what else to say about jealous reads.
A lot of safe reads I think or ones that seem safe.
Maybe I'm tainted by a bit of omgus but the list just seems strange to me. On June 27 2016 05:17 Damdred wrote:
Idc about that now, really want other people's opinions about jealous read post. Really everyone weigh in On June 27 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing though jealous the whole,basis for gb running for mayor is in his filter.
And also your read still sounds like a scum read that ends in a non logical concussion.
Would still lynch Tt first for,not doing anything at all On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah Ironic when 1. he misread my GB read in the first place and 2. he has done far less in order to substantiate his own claims. Pushes very hard for my or TT lynch. Is this what he meant by vindicated? + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on Some things don't change. + Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 07:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 07:13 Chezinu wrote:On June 27 2016 06:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:42 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Art I think w should move jealous up into the probably town.
Had a thought about him and his moosey read. Jean had a decent shot being mayor and lynching moosey wouldn't be a bad play to hard bus moosey there. Instead he gives a pretty good rationale read of a null.
Also even though moosey was about to flip scum he continued to give us reads because he had them, done.
Its kind of weak and,maybe a bit dumb but I think he's town now.
Why is sk so High again? I thought he was town already but yeah that's good reasoning. Skynx is that high because of his case on me which I find difficult to come from newbie scum. On June 27 2016 06:38 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:33 Jealous wrote:
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Could you elaborate on why Chezinu is such a strong townread for you? I didn't see anything in his filter that would make me townread him, especially not so strongly. Start of my filter To me this makes the rest of your reads feel diluted if you are mixing in joke reads into them. What are your true feelings about Chezinu's filter? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. No offense, but I find bias to be a poor mentality for this sort of game. Let me rephrase the question - What are your objective thoughts on Chezinu's filter? In other words, if you were not his friend, what would you make of his participation so far? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. I don't like this answer ): Objectively analyzing a filter and sharing your conclusions would be to the benefit of the town, and you are dodging the responsibility. I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. Think he is jealous? Are we friends chez? He's STILL pushing this alliance, so desperately. I'm not surprised that Art jumped on his bandwagon against me now. Everything after this is more recent. So, conclusions: 1. Weak early game that he tries to claim was strong. 2. Baseless pushes for mayor/pardoner. 3. Constantly sucking up to Chez/Artanis in order to get a townie alliance going. 4. A lot of hypocrisy and flip-flopping. 5. A lot of EC/Moosy defense and free-pass giving. ##Vote Damdred
You covered pretty much all i had to say lol
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I don't think I'll escape the Lynch today and for the re order n this situation I would just concede, it's way to bm to waste everyone's time when I just can't win anyway.
Anyway jealous case is actually bad.
1) Early weak reads as he calls it is a staple of my game, I'm a huge tone and gut reader early usually these takes some form of semblance as the game progresses.
You can see an example of this in almost any of the 50 games I've played in the database. Like this is just super easy to defend against. It's just something I do and something I'm really successful with.
And generally besides with ec I've been right this game
2) I think 3/4 of the game made a baseless push for mayor this is really a non point. Really there as 6-7 people who wanted it. Doesn't make anyone scum.
3) Art and I butt heads wanted to head that off he works better without pressure as town. I generally catch him n1 as scum anyway. As for chez he was just really Towny for him, and idk why an alliance with chez would be good anyway? I just enjoy he guy. Really doesn't make anyone scum and is a narrative you are trying to force.
4) As for hypocrisy you would have to point them out tbh, me and tt went back and forth about hypocrisy which ended in my mind pretty amicably during the night and a funny gif during d1. Though flip flopping doesn't make anyone scum, generally only town flip flop super fast and care free. It's part of the problem with no information vs all info.
5)Don't think I defended moose as I said before just gave him a d1 pass as is the general policy I use and a few others use on him as well. As for ec well I ended up making a bad read because I read to much into paranoia. It happens it sucks we all are wrong sooner or later.
Honestly the case is just a myriad of my posts that are plastered together to fill a narrative that I m scum, many are missing direct context of the thread and lacks clear responses by players that could influence the discussion.
A lot of it also is painting me in a scummy light just to do so a lot of it also doesn't make anyone scum.
Overall the case is poor and I see it coming from scum more than town.
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On June 29 2016 04:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 11:56 Damdred wrote:
Actually it's a little scary tbh,
Super can claim RB for rest of game and that's why they don't kill him.
It's a play I would make with that information and they could have the info 100% makes sense with how tt been playing. He's been playing like he's a power role with how he doesn't care he's a good person to check...
Idk easiest and hopeful solution is tt is scum, but idk some of his interchanges with me make me think he might not be. I'm just paranoid I know but.. I was going to leave this alone and do other stuff for a bit but accidentally put this quote in another window and just ran across it. This is a very interesting opinion of my play given you've been calling me scum all game.
I forget which game it was, had you and three mafia in my Poe. You were a power role.
You act scummier when you are a pr I believe which is unfortunate I o as well sometimes. Either way I always think that I watch pr more than scum meh
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Damdy, if you get lynched, who should be the next one to be lynched?
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On June 29 2016 04:41 Damdred wrote:
I don't think I'll escape the Lynch today and for the re order n this situation I would just concede, it's way to bm to waste everyone's time when I just can't win anyway.
Anyway jealous case is actually bad.
1) Early weak reads as he calls it is a staple of my game, I'm a huge tone and gut reader early usually these takes some form of semblance as the game progresses.
You can see an example of this in almost any of the 50 games I've played in the database. Like this is just super easy to defend against. It's just something I do and something I'm really successful with.
And generally besides with ec I've been right this game
2) I think 3/4 of the game made a baseless push for mayor this is really a non point. Really there as 6-7 people who wanted it. Doesn't make anyone scum.
3) Art and I butt heads wanted to head that off he works better without pressure as town. I generally catch him n1 as scum anyway. As for chez he was just really Towny for him, and idk why an alliance with chez would be good anyway? I just enjoy he guy. Really doesn't make anyone scum and is a narrative you are trying to force.
4) As for hypocrisy you would have to point them out tbh, me and tt went back and forth about hypocrisy which ended in my mind pretty amicably during the night and a funny gif during d1. Though flip flopping doesn't make anyone scum, generally only town flip flop super fast and care free. It's part of the problem with no information vs all info.
5)Don't think I defended moose as I said before just gave him a d1 pass as is the general policy I use and a few others use on him as well. As for ec well I ended up making a bad read because I read to much into paranoia. It happens it sucks we all are wrong sooner or later.
Honestly the case is just a myriad of my posts that are plastered together to fill a narrative that I m scum, many are missing direct context of the thread and lacks clear responses by players that could influence the discussion.
A lot of it also is painting me in a scummy light just to do so a lot of it also doesn't make anyone scum.
Overall the case is poor and I see it coming from scum more than town.
Wait you're conceding? Or am I reading your post wrong?
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Jealous probably scum if not it's sk.
Tt is just tunneled town ir think.
I'd go jealous-sk then re evaluate if game is not over.
It's not super, art, GB.
I guess tumble is possible but doubtful I think...
Not even sure if it's sk honestly, kind of clouded on that front. Im going to go back on that one
Just Lynch jealous then weigh tumble sk. Lynch chez by the third if he hasn't contributes. Then you are in mylo, hopefully GB is alive to pardon to force a 2 v 1 that's the only time to ever really go for Jean.
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On June 29 2016 04:44 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 04:41 Damdred wrote:
I don't think I'll escape the Lynch today and for the re order n this situation I would just concede, it's way to bm to waste everyone's time when I just can't win anyway.
Anyway jealous case is actually bad.
1) Early weak reads as he calls it is a staple of my game, I'm a huge tone and gut reader early usually these takes some form of semblance as the game progresses.
You can see an example of this in almost any of the 50 games I've played in the database. Like this is just super easy to defend against. It's just something I do and something I'm really successful with.
And generally besides with ec I've been right this game
2) I think 3/4 of the game made a baseless push for mayor this is really a non point. Really there as 6-7 people who wanted it. Doesn't make anyone scum.
3) Art and I butt heads wanted to head that off he works better without pressure as town. I generally catch him n1 as scum anyway. As for chez he was just really Towny for him, and idk why an alliance with chez would be good anyway? I just enjoy he guy. Really doesn't make anyone scum and is a narrative you are trying to force.
4) As for hypocrisy you would have to point them out tbh, me and tt went back and forth about hypocrisy which ended in my mind pretty amicably during the night and a funny gif during d1. Though flip flopping doesn't make anyone scum, generally only town flip flop super fast and care free. It's part of the problem with no information vs all info.
5)Don't think I defended moose as I said before just gave him a d1 pass as is the general policy I use and a few others use on him as well. As for ec well I ended up making a bad read because I read to much into paranoia. It happens it sucks we all are wrong sooner or later.
Honestly the case is just a myriad of my posts that are plastered together to fill a narrative that I m scum, many are missing direct context of the thread and lacks clear responses by players that could influence the discussion.
A lot of it also is painting me in a scummy light just to do so a lot of it also doesn't make anyone scum.
Overall the case is poor and I see it coming from scum more than town. Wait you're conceding? Or am I reading your post wrong?
If I was scum I'd concede even if I escaped today's Lynch no way over tommorow.
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On June 29 2016 04:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, if you get lynched, who should be the next one to be lynched?
Jealous
I had a list in another post but I'd reevaluate people's motives after that.
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Day 2 Vote Count
Jealous(4): Artanis[Xp], Superbia, Damdred. Tumblewood
Damdred(3): Tictock, Skynx, Jealous
Tictock (2): Superbia, Artanis[Xp], Skynx, Jean Valijean, Jealous, Damdred
Not voting (1), Chezinu
Currently, Jealous, Is set to be lynched!
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