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On June 28 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote:
It also makes a lot of sense for Damdred to move his vote to Jean if the scumteam is Moosy/Damdred/Emp.
Choice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched.
Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there.
This also still just makes tons of sense to me.
Ok, I'll bbl.
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On June 28 2016 16:55 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 16:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is Art cleared? I agree that he's town but he's not cleared. x; His reads so far have been pretty el terriblè. Yep, I think he's just having a bad town game.
Why's that? I came around to QT and no hard townread of mine has been scum. I feel like I've played a pretty decent game.
I'm also kinda thinking it might be Jealous at this point, purely based on PoE.
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Chez still 100% absolutely confirmed.
Damdred can never stay this motivated as scum with two trolly scummates. I know him well enough for that, he was hard enough to motivate during Imperial as is. Especially with all this suspicion he would've likely conceded by now.
Same goes for Superbia after rolling scum 29348 times. He doesn't do that play, he doesn't get as agitated during EoD when he might get lynched and he wouldn't be this involved.
GB is confirmed town from the shot. JVJ gets a pass until LYLO for lynching scum and generally very town-oriented play. Skynx is very town for his case on me and just very genuine towny things in his filter.
I guess it kinda could be TW? But I had good vibes about him earlier. Jealous fits the most, feels a little mechanical at times.
##Unvote
##Vote Jealous
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Come now art it was almost a 600 page game with like twelve replacements!
It was hard for us all to stay motivated.
Though my motivation is kind of at a low point right now, whoops.
But on a different note jealous kind of looks bad tbh keeps hedging a bit but just keeps his read static. Kind of weird.
As for that game you are remembering the wrong game tt, the game you claimed wanderer with a red check you were gunsmith and got instantly lynched that day because onegu claimed a red check on you as scum.
Anyway any questions I'm around for a bit.
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On June 27 2016 04:59 Jealous wrote:Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler +Pretty weak play so far. Has only posted one or two substantiated reads. This quote from him sums it up: "like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now..." Don't like him so far, but not enough to say he's scum. Some decent posts questioning people. A lot of fluff otherwise. Asking to be mayor over and over without giving any reasoning as to why he should be one. Somehow has garnered a lot of support despite not being wholly convincing to me. Only one real good post explaining his reads. If he wasn't pushing so hard to be mayor without any real foundation, I would townlean on him. : + Show Spoiler +emperorchampion: + Show Spoiler +Very weak start to the game but made a goost post @Jean, which I liked. Overall I'm not very impressed with his play so far, but he hasn't said anything that seemed outright scummy, so I have him as null for now. : + Show Spoiler +Weak reads, hasn't contributed much of anything at all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=23#459This post is suspect because he gets on the defensive while saying that there is "no real reason" for him being scumpushed, but has done nothing in the game up to that point, which to me is reason enough. Later on he gets pressured more, and again says there is no reason to scumread him even though yet again he hasn't contribute much of anything. Gives detailed reads under pressure and they do not impress. Does reads based on "tone" and stuff like that. Tries to jump on me for a policy lynch, then posts this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=41#807Trying to be objective about it, I think is a horrible post. I answered a question directly to the best of my ability and he disqualifies it because I have no experience playing with Artanis? Also uses this as an opportunity to further support his QT town read that he has been pushing from the start. A few posts later, he is convinced that I am scum and not just inactive as I said I would be, all based off of one post. Although, apparently moves me to "lower null" just a few minutes ago. Makes a late push for pardoner? On what basis? -_- Definite scum lean. : + Show Spoiler +Super trolly as always, which I hate that he can get away with every game (according to what some veterans have said so far). Impossible to read and thus not a benefit to town so far. : + Show Spoiler +Has contributed the least of all besides MoosyDoosy. Hard to read off of that, but necessitates a mild scum lean from me. : + Show Spoiler +A few jokey posts at the start of the game, with some weak/fake reads. I don't personally like that style of play but I wouldn't send him to the gallows for it (if I were to do so, Moosy would go first). I can actually understand his push on QT, as QT himself said he plays "oddly" and that seems to get him into trouble D1. I wish QT would play less "odd." It wouldn't cause situations like this one. QT's case was pretty weak in my opinion but because he isn't the type to let it go, Artanis was forced into a defensive position (seems like he doesn't like giving up either, even though he eventually did). Overall I'd have to say Artanis reacted pretty normally to the situation.
After that, I feel that he has been active and trying to push the game forward, albeit using too much meta, history, and "tone" for my liking. His play vs. Jean and @TT, I can't entirely agree with, but he's trying. He's town to me. More to come.
Kinda interesting that pretty neutral on both scum here though. Like not much opinion at this point
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On June 28 2016 23:24 Damdred wrote:
Come now art it was almost a 600 page game with like twelve replacements!
It was hard for us all to stay motivated.
Though my motivation is kind of at a low point right now, whoops.
But on a different note jealous kind of looks bad tbh keeps hedging a bit but just keeps his read static. Kind of weird.
As for that game you are remembering the wrong game tt, the game you claimed wanderer with a red check you were gunsmith and got instantly lynched that day because onegu claimed a red check on you as scum.
Anyway any questions I'm around for a bit.
True, if you want I can provide additional argumentation.
You're terrible at faking emotion. You tried it once in Millionaires and it looked awful but people still insta townread you since Emo Damdred = town. Since then you've talked a lot about how emotions shouldn't be used to confirm people as town and try to move away from it. Especially with people now knowing you're capable of faking it, I really don't think you would play this way at mafia, let alone be capable of playing this way.
You've just felt extremely natural this game. Jealous hasn't and is highly likely to be mafia.
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Yeah just read some filters and I wish I would of hard pushed him after his reads lists. Which is to bad, see strange progressions.
But sk is strange to, though the attitude of righteousness (this isn't meant as an insult) I'd have a hard time seeing coming from a newb. He's pretty aggro really all I'm all not sure if I believe he could be scum here. But he does have a couple weird progressions like the one super pointed out, inability see me coming from town.
I thinknive been pretty Towny this game, activity has been good. Idk I think I could of solo carried scum team but would of had to hard bus moose and ec, especially ec. I've been wrong at points but that's what mafia is about, I made a couple good choices and two-three bad ones.
Alas.
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Homerino. Gonna chill for some time. Maybe some things in the evening.
Interestingly enough one of the main reasons I suspected damdred early early d1 is because I thought he was likely mafia if moosy was mafia. x;
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Unfortunately like 3 people were neutral/weak on the scum.
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Which were TT/Damd/Jealous.
Maybe even more.
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On June 28 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah just read some filters and I wish I would of hard pushed him after his reads lists. Which is to bad, see strange progressions.
But sk is strange to, though the attitude of righteousness (this isn't meant as an insult) I'd have a hard time seeing coming from a newb. He's pretty aggro really all I'm all not sure if I believe he could be scum here. But he does have a couple weird progressions like the one super pointed out, inability see me coming from town.
I thinknive been pretty Towny this game, activity has been good. Idk I think I could of solo carried scum team but would of had to hard bus moose and ec, especially ec. I've been wrong at points but that's what mafia is about, I made a couple good choices and two-three bad ones.
Alas.
Sk is just (almost) never going to be scum this game. Way too confident and pushing stuff. Afaik his scumgame was pretty bad? I recall others saying so.
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Yeah that's what I thought d1 after we talked about it.
It's probably just jealous
Idk the policy I keep with moosey might of gotten me in trouble but I use it every game. Meh
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I need to visit Jealous' filter again but it wouldn't surprise me tbh.
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I guess we will come down to a jealous vs damdred Lynch today.
Meh brb
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Guys
Damdred before anyone.
Scum clearly wanted to have EC alive. To the point Moosy claimed scum and kept asking votes only to be lynched before EC. Then Damdred hammered the Votecount on JVJ to guarantee that.
It's just hard evidence. And it's really simple
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On June 29 2016 01:02 Damdred wrote:
I guess we will come down to a jealous vs damdred Lynch today.
Meh brb
at the end of my 6-page catching up spree I get a nice little summary. I don't think anyone outside of jealous / tt / damdred (/ art? probably not) is ever scum so I think the logical plan is to lynch them in about that order. in every respect damdred feels pretty alright but not exceptional this game. I generally skim what jealous says because he writes paragraphs about sentences, so tbh no strong opinion on him. tt is looking better after not conceding... I don't think that very many people have the will to try and force 4 mislynches in a row with no partners while being scumread with blue evidence, but as a matter of principle I don't ever want to judge anyone on whether or not they concede. tt feels much better than he did d1 though, so I'd prefer to lynch jealous today. good order is jealous -> tt -> damdred -> art though hopefully we don't get so far down the list.
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On June 29 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 01:02 Damdred wrote:
I guess we will come down to a jealous vs damdred Lynch today.
Meh brb at the end of my 6-page catching up spree I get a nice little summary. I don't think anyone outside of jealous / tt / damdred (/ art? probably not) is ever scum so I think the logical plan is to lynch them in about that order. in every respect damdred feels pretty alright but not exceptional this game. I generally skim what jealous says because he writes paragraphs about sentences, so tbh no strong opinion on him. tt is looking better after not conceding... I don't think that very many people have the will to try and force 4 mislynches in a row with no partners while being scumread with blue evidence, but as a matter of principle I don't ever want to judge anyone on whether or not they concede. tt feels much better than he did d1 though, so I'd prefer to lynch jealous today. good order is jealous -> tt -> damdred -> art though hopefully we don't get so far down the list.
We start with Damdred
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oh yeaaaahh there's the whole "preserving ec over moosy" thing with damdred. I suppose that should make me feel like damdred is scum. I guess it does? tbh it doesn't matter to me because I think that, with 4 people already confirmed in my mind (gb/jean/me/super), we can confirm 2 more and have a pool of 4 in which there's always one scum and it doesn't matter how long it takes to get that one scum.
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sure I'll do damdred first if you want. not like he's far-and-away townier than jealous and tt.
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I'm only voting for damdred today. Feel free to start with me the day after if the game is still going on.
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