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On June 28 2016 17:08 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 17:04 Jealous wrote:On June 28 2016 16:59 Skynx wrote:On June 28 2016 16:34 Jealous wrote:On June 28 2016 16:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is Art cleared? I agree that he's town but he's not cleared. x; His reads so far have been pretty el terriblè. I didn't clear him. As I said, I don't like this buttbuddy status he has with Chezinu. Even if neither are scum, it is not helpful to the game. Chezinu has done practically nothing for the game, and Artanis will never act against him based on principle. Even if they are not scum, they are barriers to cohesive town play. Mind you there is the exact same deal with damdred. As I said, I'm not happy with Damdred right now. Chezinu, maybe you should host or have someone host a psychedelic anthropomorphic Mafia game where you can all "troll" each other with randomly generated posts once every 12 hours ^^ If Damdred is the final terrorist found in our group, why do you think all the terrorist voted for different representives? Also, did you find it odd that two of the representatives became the presidential candidates in which they were to vote? They are playing two as one.
1. To show a lack of affiliation.
2. None of the representatives became candidates:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 05:55 Rels wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Jean Valjean (6): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy, QuickTwist, Jealous, Damdred
GlowingBear (4): Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx, Damdred
Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion
Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp]
Jealous (0): Jealous
Superbia (0): Tumblewood, Superbia, MoosyDoosy
Skynx (0): Skynx
QuickTwist (0): GlowingBear
Jean Valjean has been elected Mayor!
GlowingBear has been elected Pardoner!
Day 1 ends Sunday, Jun 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
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MoosyDoosy voted for his own death; in contrast, nothing else is as abnormal. The only candidates were JVJ, GB, and maybe Superbia which dissipated very quickly. They knew they had no chance of claiming a leadership position (if we assume Damdred is the third scum, of course). So I don't understand what you're trying to say but it seems wrong.
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Unless I misunderstood what you meant by "two of the representatives."
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On June 28 2016 16:17 Superbia wrote:
I also rescinded my tracker claim btw. TT should be evaluated separate of that. His reaction unfortunately means little.
Super can you explain to me a little bit more what you got out of your reaction test?
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On June 28 2016 18:29 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 16:17 Superbia wrote:
I also rescinded my tracker claim btw. TT should be evaluated separate of that. His reaction unfortunately means little. Super can you explain to me a little bit more what you got out of your reaction test?
Not a rescind :'(
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Really nothing else?
What about what you mentioned about Jealous earlier?
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It's something to be explored today, but it was not my main goal. :p
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I'm asking kus I think you put an end to that rather quickly. Especially if you are still not sure if I am scum or not.
Seems like you could have pushed me a little more to really get the pressure going, but as it is despite my light responses to the claim you backed off right away.
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So who are you currently thinking is scum?
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I wanted a concede and I think you would've given it given the circumstances if it were true.
You could still be scum not delivering the night KP so it was iffy to begin with (esp since I asked for cop/tracker on you or art). I had to be completely correct.
I needed the day to continue asap bc I want to win today.
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Currently leaning between you and damd. Need to (re-)visit both your filters.
Also need to revisit Jealous/Skynx's filter. Would not be surprised it one of them was scum.
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I need to make my mind up but I'm at work so no real time to spend. 
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Humm, I guess I buy that but it still seems weird that you'd drop the pressure w/o trying to get more of a reaction out of me. Or just get a better read on me and Damdred in general.
As it stands I take it the whole play was a wash?
+ Show Spoiler +Eh, I think I have pretty solid reasons to think you are town, but you've succesfully gotten me a little paranoid, so if we make it far enough expect a repeat of my play from the end of the last newbie.
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On June 28 2016 18:42 Superbia wrote:
Currently leaning between you and damd. Need to (re-)visit both your filters.
Also need to revisit Jealous/Skynx's filter. Would not be surprised it one of them was scum.
Jealous... maybe. His play feels a little different from last game, but not enough to make me nervous.
I'm actually like 90% sure Skynx is town. If I got pardoner I was gunna make him BG kus I felt that sure D1 and very little chance scum ever tried to kill him.
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I'm not interested in a reaction per say. I was interesting an instant win.
A tracker fakeclaim is already super iffy because even if you get scum, it still does not guarantee that they performed the NK. As such, they would instantly know it's a fakeclaim and it's a waste of time.
As for Damdred or whomever's reaction, it's pretty WIFOM. Mafia can jump on the wagon or keep back and wait or w/e. I don't know anyone's meta enough to read into that. That'd be super duper tryhard. Jealous' reaction was kinda TMIy tho.
Last time I will hopefully repeat this. ;p
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On June 28 2016 18:52 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 18:42 Superbia wrote:
Currently leaning between you and damd. Need to (re-)visit both your filters.
Also need to revisit Jealous/Skynx's filter. Would not be surprised it one of them was scum. Jealous... maybe. His play feels a little different from last game, but not enough to make me nervous. I'm actually like 90% sure Skynx is town. If I got pardoner I was gunna make him BG kus I felt that sure D1 and very little chance scum ever tried to kill him.
Yeh I have some reasons to think skynx is town, but I want to revisit his filter.
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I'm kinda waking up still so I'll revisit stuff in more detail after coffee and food.
In regards to Damdred.... he came off pretty sensible about the claim and seemed to be running through all the possibilities...
Which is kinda weird. Like I've been his main scumread all game and at first he was gung-ho, even said something like "Yes vindication" but later as he was discussing stuff he seemed to be coming from the PoV of me being town a lot, iirc he said it was because he thought I would probably concede in that position as scum.
The interesting thing about that is I've actually played a game with Damdred where as scum I got tracked to the NK. I actually spent a shit ton of effort trying to argue and keep myself alive despite that track and it wasn't until the next phase when a cop also came forward with a red check on me that I finally came clean. Now it wasn't the exact same situation, all of my team was still alive (well 2/3, Vivax was alive but had basically decided he wasn't going to play) and I think we were only a lynch or two away from winning... but the similarities are there.
The real interesting thing to me when I recall that game was that my initial reaction to that track was exactly "Welp I guess I'm a wanderer and the tracker claim is legit" Which Damdred steadily called BS on for the rest of the game and pushed me for that reaction. Here... he is considering that same thought process?
Ok maybe not exactly the same, I think he was mostly arguing that one of me or super was scum here, but I still find it interesting that he put so much thought into the possibility that I was a wanderer here and that Super was making a ballsy play. Neither of which are very likely from an objective standpoint.
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Though tbh I think I'm mostly locked into Damdred because of PoE at this point. I don't really see Chez being scum atm, but I also don't really know how to read him. I tonally read both Tumble and Jealous as town but I'm not sure I have really solid reasons to think they are for sure.
Everyone else I'm fairly confident in being town.
There was also a comment I recall Damdred making about Emp that I thought was weird, stands out even more with Emp flipping town. Gunna see if I can find it, then I'm doing morning stuff.
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On June 27 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote:
Because I didn't want ec lynched, I came up with decent reasoning foe him to be town. Gb was apparently lurking and not interested in discussing the lynch.
Jean makes logical sense and cares and did the right thing for town. And was here actually trying to,figure things out.
I'd much rather someone who's here,figuring,out over someone who's not. Plus got a stronger town read on Jean.
Ah yea this was it.
Ehh weaker than I thought, but the word choice is interesting imo. Not, "I believed him to be town kus of X" or "I saw something that made me think he was town" but "came up with decent reasoning..."
Sounds a lot like scum being proud of their reasoning to TR their buddy to me.
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