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On June 14 2016 15:58 Jealous wrote: IDEALLY we have two lynches ;-; I'm working on a big post again btw so maybe we should coordinate after that is finalized. Yes. If we ever misslynch we lose. I have a vague ideas about teams and will (try to) refine them later today. Have had terrible sleep though. | ||
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On June 14 2016 16:13 Superbia wrote: Jealous how much time do you have near eod? I mean I could take like a 10-15 minute break from class probably. Class starts an hour before EoD and I can come in 15 minutes prior to the deadline on my phone. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Skynx] + I went into this expecting his posts to be more scummy than they were. There were maybe 3 or 4 suspect posts, but these two: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: So Scott replaced sqrt and there was that whole receiving role jazz. He was pretty happy on D1/D2 just sitting back enjoying town kill eachother as his filter didn't even fill a single page. He is experienced so I would expect him to at least chat a bit to get some town credit. This makes him unreadable and safe while he avoids any contributions to town. Mind you he was tied at 3 votes to QT for a long while. So he posts this list as a summary of his thoughts: So this is a shady read which can go both ways. Thinks I'm suspicious from my last post but likes my stlye? lol the irony This imo is a giveaway. While he's right about btdt's style his only mention of btdt returns at Moosy's claim. TT & FF tried shennanies on him, kush sr'd him and Scott was absent from the discussion. He doesn't really pushes his questions either: Not entirely scummy but still: Anyway, his sudden activity peak after a scum flip makes me wonder if it's just to take the heat off himself. He's also ready to jump on btdt without hesitation because he knows the real deal and it's inevitable at this point + it will give him town credit. So he shuts down any other argument: I'm not even 1 bit worried hihi + Show Spoiler + On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote: I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town? Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz. They give me mixed feelings. The first one is clearly a defensive counter-attack against scott, which actually makes sense. The end refers to one of the posts I read as more suspect at the time, "Please please someone claim cop." At first I didn't understand why he wanted to seed more confusion into the situation, but I think I've figured out its true meaning: if someone claimed cop in order to CC Moosy, they would be just as dead as BtDt after BtDt flipped red. With this in mind, I don't think this post actually scared anyone into not claiming, and if Skynx was scum, he could have said something privately to the team in order to achieve the same goal without the potentially suspicious ploy. I would rate his contributions to the discussion and exploration of leads to be on the lower side, but that is partially hampered by the fact that he hasn't been as consistently active as some and that his reads on the first two days were wrong. I had the same reads, so I have a hard time holding that against someone, but it still needs to be noted. + Show Spoiler [scott31337] + On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind  I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. Although he read a scumteam at the end, I think that he did try to scratch nearly everyone's back by claiming nearly everyone town. However, he does bring that up in his post as well. Is that so that it would seem less suspicious, or is it honest acknowledgement of the fact that his reads are weak? WIFOM On June 09 2016 02:12 scott31337 wrote: Nothing really sticks out in the last couple of pages. I don't see a lot of defending kush which makes me worried, like fecal said yesterday. Super do you have any questions for me? Who would you like to lynch? This seems kinda low-effort and this was posted after kush was lynched - why raise these worries now and not the day before, as he says fecal did? It seems like he is trying to give out town vibes with a post like this. Given my reasoning above @ Skynx, this seems almost like an overreaction, unless scott also misunderstood the post like I did first/didn't think it through. However, now I'm wondering why Skynx didn't post something trying to clarify it? Hm -_-; This isn't much of a counter-argument but he does produce a point - why is TT throwing Super on a scum team when Super's analysis is the one that proved Moosy as cop and BtDt as a fake CC? Will be added to in my analysis of TT. On June 11 2016 07:20 scott31337 wrote: Skynx would be at the top of my list. The third one I'm quite unsure of though - I'd have to re-read filters and VCA. Considering scott's previous post @Skynx, this seems to solidify to me that he either 1. really wants Skynx dead because scott is scum and sees a wagon forming, 2. completely misunderstood the implications of Skynx's post, or 3. I completely misunderstood Skynx's post and he never bothered to properly explain it anyway. This is a pretty tricky situation and I'd like some feedback on this from others, especially Scott/Skynx. On June 13 2016 10:52 scott31337 wrote: Confirmed dead Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): Now if I do 99-100% (Superbia only 99% for me, Jealous is 100%) + Show Spoiler [99%s] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): And I do Skynx mafia and me town + Show Spoiler [Skynx mafia me town] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): I need to re-read Tictock's d1 and if he voted on btdt legitimately or was a throw-away vote (that the lynch was already secured) This post opened my eyes to something - Scott wagoned after me on EC on Day 2; I am 99% sure that this made it 4 votes to 4. Since kush flipped town, I think it is fair to say that scummy Scott wouldn't risk raising the votes on a scummy EC to the same count as kush's when there were still votes up in the air. So in terms of pairings for the remaining 2 scum, a Scott/EC pairing is relatively unlikely. Note 1. On June 13 2016 11:05 scott31337 wrote: Btdt/Skynx/EC? Ugh, might need to revise this pair read. Note 2. + Show Spoiler [Tictock] + On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote: Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads. Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching. Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler + For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1. blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now. Spot-on reads. Maybe too spot-on? On June 05 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote: Ok I piddled around too long and am not going to be able to elaborate as much as I wanted to about my scum reads, but here is the short and sweet version. QT - There is just too many inconsistencies in his play for me to overlook. He pushed Super early for "trying to look town" + Show Spoiler + which is a terrible reason to scumread anyone, especially when that doesn't reall describe Super's play at all imo not openly giving my reads Sorry no time for examples Emperorchampion - I liked his open, but the rest of his posts fall flat and he quickly dropped the attitude he started with. The way he spent a lot of effort filterdiving QT + Show Spoiler + filters so early in the game? Thats it for now, I may get a chance to post later tonight, but likely won't be around till tomorrow. ##Vote: QuickTwist Targeting EC. Note 3. On June 06 2016 02:37 Tictock wrote: Humm the weekend start is keeping this game pretty dry I see. I might skim over the game again then since there isn't much new to read, and nothing in the past few pages has really swayed my opinion. I'm trying to decide how I feel about Scott's slot. Was sorta thinking the way the replacement happened could mean scott's is town, but thats pretty WIFOM and I'm mostly just grasping at straws. Sqrt's opening game posts just felt chatty and not really AI (alignment indicative) but show that he was around and ready to play the first hour of the game. Scott's posts leave a little to be desired... and I'm not sure why he seems so concerned I don't have Jealous as a hard town read. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 08:34 scott31337 wrote: hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm Which sure I haven't given any thoughts on Jealous besides On June 04 2016 17:01 Tictock wrote: This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now. I'm reserving my right to hold off giving a real read on him kus a few things have raised an eyebrow but I'm overall liking his posts. Honestly scott just seems like a coinflip atm and I'm not feeling inclined to lynch him. I'd like to know why people are keen to lynch him/his slot but nobody seems to be considering FF who arguably has done just as little. Defending scott, targeting FF. Note 4. On June 06 2016 03:22 Tictock wrote: Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time). I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean". I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well. This also bugged me Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean). I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static. Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already. I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today. Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together. I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here. On June 06 2016 05:08 Tictock wrote: I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm. QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there. Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself? I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself. Although he claims that this was written over a long time, I believe this is when the QT wagon was in full effect, so his targetting Skynx here might not be much of an indicator of anything, but I'll include it as Note 5. On June 07 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote: I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. Note 6. On June 08 2016 03:19 Tictock wrote: Right now I'm still tempted to vote for Skynx but his list post wasn't terrible. Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions). BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me. Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward. Note 7. On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote: I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee Note 8. On June 09 2016 07:30 Tictock wrote: Scott first and formost since he keeps referencing my first scumgame to justify his fear read of me. Note 9. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=87#1724 I just really like this post. + Show Spoiler [emperorchampion] + On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote: I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town. Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out. Targets Skynx, note 11. On June 06 2016 20:58 emperorchampion wrote: Half-Life 3 confirmed tier (Release date: soon (tm)) - Tumble - Moosy - fecal - ticktock Null - btdt - scott - blkcoffee Cesar's Army - kush - super - skynx My feelings at the moment, will post more when at office. Target Skynx and 2 townies, not a good look, Note 12. On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote: Some thoughts on scum teams: -super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush -TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote: Hmmmmmm Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak. - Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler + I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order): + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip? - I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think. aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now... Defends Skynx and targets Scott. Note 13. On June 09 2016 00:04 emperorchampion wrote: Also I would like scott to show up and give his reasoning on reading Tictock as scum, I found it very nebulous. So many afks :/ At this point I would be willing to vote for scott/btdt/kush for begin afk, and particularly scott and kush since I'm giving them a scum lean. Softly defends TT, targets Scott. Note 14. On June 09 2016 02:13 emperorchampion wrote: Can you explain how you got your read on TicTock? Note 15. On June 09 2016 04:09 emperorchampion wrote: Voting scott, want him to answer some questions! Note 16. On June 09 2016 04:49 emperorchampion wrote: Why not scott, he seems pretty scummy, no? Note 17. On June 09 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote: idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush I just realized that kush was the first to post Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation. Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL) This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification. Note 18. On June 10 2016 09:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'm not sure if I'm ready to throw my caution to the wind atm. I honestly only trust super, and I have a feeling that jealous/moosy/scott could be maf. Tictock seems to be making a lot of sense right now. Moosy's claim seems pretty genuine, but I don't want to give too much benefit to the first claim. Note 19. On June 13 2016 08:20 emperorchampion wrote: Sooo it doesn't look like anyone else is here atm, I think I'm out after this for the night Here's my scum power ranking: -Skynx -Scott -Tictock Half-Life 3 Confirmed List: -Jealsus -Super Note 20. So, going through these made me think of the situation this way: scum pairings. I didn't quote some of Skynx's posts that would apply to this list because I only had the thought while reading scott but they are in his filter. Let's look at the possibilities, if we take defense/scumread at face value. The note numbers are largely in sequential order with how I found them if you read the above spoilers from top to bottom Scott / EC = Not likely as per Note 1 under my Scott analysis, although later he does suggest him in Note 2. EC does target Scott to some degree in Note 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, Scott / Skynx = Not likely because Scott has been scumreading Skynx into the lategame. Scott / TT = Possible, has been defending him. Note 4 vice-versa. However, TT turns it around in Note 6, Note 8, Note 9. Scott right now has his vote to TT in a relatively high-stakes situation so I don't think it's likely he would take that risk, but he could shennanie. EC / Skynx = Possible, Skynx posted a fair amount of stuff townreading EC in the early stages of the game. However, EC targets Skynx in Note 11, 12. Then defends him again in Note 13? However, goes back to putting him at top of the list in Note 20. EC / TT = Note 3; TT against EC. Note 7. Note 8. Note 10. EC softly defends TT in Note 14, 15. Again in 19. TT / Skynx = I find this one highly unlikely because Skynx spent a lot of posts questioning TT and questioning other people's reads of TT as town. Skynx also defends BtDT as "not a big target," even does it as a separate post after-thought. Note 5 had TT scumreading Skynx. Note 6. I need to see this post in post form before I can form further analysis. | ||
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Scott / EC = Not likely as per Note 1 under my Scott analysis, although later he does suggest him in Note 2. EC does target Scott to some degree in Note 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, Scott / Skynx = Not likely because Scott has been scumreading Skynx into the lategame. Scott / TT = Possible, has been defending him. Note 4 vice-versa. However, TT turns it around in Note 6, Note 8, Note 9. Scott right now has his vote to TT in a relatively high-stakes situation so I don't think it's likely he would take that risk, but he could shennanie. EC / Skynx = Possible, Skynx posted a fair amount of stuff townreading EC in the early stages of the game. However, EC targets Skynx in Note 11, 12. Then defends him again in Note 13? However, goes back to putting him at top of the list in Note 20. EC / TT = Note 3; TT against EC. Note 7. Note 8. Note 10. EC softly defends TT in Note 14, 15. Again in 19. TT / Skynx = I find this one highly unlikely because Skynx spent a lot of posts questioning TT and questioning other people's reads of TT as town. Skynx also defends BtDT as "not a big target," even does it as a separate post after-thought. Note 5 had TT scumreading Skynx. Note 6. Going based off this, and giving more weight to later notes (damn, wish I came up with a better system like SCOTT1, SCOTT2, etc.): Scott/EC: Not likely. Scott/Skynx: Not likely. Scott/TT: Not likely. EC/Skynx: EC's damnation of Skynx hasn't been very vocal but it is his most recent. Gonna leave this one for now - it could be that EC is hedging his bets against an evident Skynx bandwagon? Would look suspect if he is the only one defending him. EC/TT: EC has seemed to defend TT while TT targets EC. I don't know what to make of this except that maybe it is again EC trying to make an ally/appear townie? TT/Skynx: Highly unlikely. Altogether it seems like the most likely pairing is EC/Skynx, however EC is the one I am more certain of between the two. I welcome outside thoughts on this. | ||
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Right now the relationship between all of them can be described as: Scumreads: EC > Scott > Skynx > TT > EC EC > Skynx Scott > TT @_@ I need a mental break now. | ||
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On June 14 2016 16:17 Jealous wrote: I mean I could take like a 10-15 minute break from class probably. Class starts an hour before EoD and I can come in 15 minutes prior to the deadline on my phone. That's fine. I'll try to be here a few (2-3) hours before EoD so we can discuss some more. | ||
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On June 14 2016 16:32 Superbia wrote: That's fine. I'll try to be here a few (2-3) hours before EoD so we can discuss some more. I'll be there. | ||
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On June 14 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote: TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen. Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil? It hasn't, I was just wanting to get more out of Scott and Skynx before I try to wrap my head around this game. Like... those 2 seemed like a good shot for the last 2 scum a few days ago but today it's not clicking in my head. Tbh they feel like the low hanging fruit of the game atm. I think I can only see 2 teams being possible atm, Scott and Skynx or Super and Emp. I think the biggest thing that is bugging me about you Super is stuff like this. On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote: I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing. Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable. But I'm pussying out and voting kush. I think this post summarizes your D1, you spent a decent bit of time posting and pushing some idea's around the first 2 days, but when push came to shove you went with Kush both times. On the one hand that seemed fine kus Kush was def not playing up to snuff, but looking back on this post it's just not sitting right how you are pushing Quick as scum but voting Kush. I'm also sure you could make the play to bury a teammate who got redchecked, so I'm not ready to give you a pass for pointing out mechanics that made BtDt's claim impossible. | ||
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"I'm gona vote whoever Jealous votes" he is basically buying your opinion on how he's gona do the most important thing in the game. He doesn't care who he votes because it doesn't represent his opinion so he's safe. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 14 2016 08:35 Tictock wrote: Also for Skynx. You had a scum read on me for most of the game, can you tell me what your read of me is now and what (if anything) has changed? Well, I liked your D2 activity and out of ordinary questions and trying to get people to think instead of just killing kush. That was kinda what I tried to do during 1st half of D2 but then I had to be away. My reads on you from earlier stuff that i mentioned in my sr I see now that is kinda applicable to everyone. Most people, I think with exception of Super n Jealous have that activity for sake of activity posts all around but I guess that doesn't mean anything. On June 10 2016 09:07 Tictock wrote: I disagree with this actually. Assuming your claim is true (and I'm thinking it's good) BtDt should be lynched, but if we just pile on him then today will be super boring and we will loose much chance to get info. So this I like, but that is actually what happened and btdt lost his cool, gave away his mafioso and we got nothing else out of that day. On June 14 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote: TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen. Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil? Then this. My initial thought is that btdt wagon became too big for you to ignore. Super is not posting differently before/after D3 so its hard to change reads on that. No one else was sr'ing Super anyway so if you're town it doesn't make sense to me without a super solid case. That did not happen and you chose the safe play of voting for btdt. Now, another point is your relationship with Scott who's my primary sr. On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote: I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee which starts with this On June 07 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote: I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. then this in contrary, altho you might argue it was too early in the game to make serious reads. On June 07 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote: Eh idk I haven't had a chance to put any real time into this game today, still feel fairly happy with my town reads. I'm also starting to lean town on kush but I'm not totally comfortable with that read just yet. Scott's claim to not have gotten his role PM bugs me just a little kus I know sqrt was posting in the first hour of the game (so pretty sure he got his role, don't think a newbie would start posting without getting that). There was also a pretty large gap from when scott joined the game till when he made that post. Maybe I'm overthinking it but it feels weird, and I think Scott needs to step it up one way or another. Yet he does not, and you never push this again On June 08 2016 03:19 Tictock wrote: Right now I'm still tempted to vote for Skynx but his list post wasn't terrible. Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions). BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me. Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward. try to put this in context with this So you had like exact same way of my thinking then straight up question it. Your filter page 7 is filled with posts both accusing and defending Scott, sometimes assigning me and him for last 2 mafia, I'm not gona post all here since it'd be too big just check it out if interested. And all that finalises into this: On June 14 2016 08:27 Tictock wrote: Scott do you think Skynx and EC are the last two mafia? Personally I'm kinda coming back to this game with fresh eyes since I was away for a full couple of days. I'm seeing a couple of possible worlds that both seem equally likely atm. I was playing this game without doing real filter dives just skimming for key posts, but I think I might need to try and cross check a few things. Mind you, despite all these pushes, sr's, tr's you have only just now pushed him to answer your questions. You have never voted for him either. Now lets have a look at this from Scott's side: Some sort of accusation here On June 13 2016 11:05 scott31337 wrote: Btdt/Skynx/EC? Then completely stops assigning you with mafia On June 14 2016 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Yes, I disagree - if were lynching a town, it doesn't make much sense for mafia to want to sheannie, they would rather get the mislynch. Very strong defense of you right here. Personally I can answer Scott here, QT train was unstoppable so TT felt no pressure shennanies cuz he didn't think anyone would be around. Him and FF go for btdt for this exact situation then Tumble pops up suggests me. This doesn't go through cuz I'm already gathering a lot of suspicion on myself. Anyway, this activity between you and Scott is a big tell imo and either way too big to ignore at this point in the game. What is your opinion on my read for Scott? And people pls post ur reactions to this, especially Jealous n Super | ||
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