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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 13 2016 21:39 GMT
#1941
Also, scott:

On June 13 2016 22:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 11:36 scott31337 wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers


hmm


Do you disagree?

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
June 13 2016 21:39 GMT
#1942
Scott you should vote for who you want to vote for and not just follow me, because 1. I am a dumb newb and 2. I might shennanie again.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 13 2016 21:39 GMT
#1943
Since you are here now (although I will be heading out soon...)
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
June 13 2016 21:41 GMT
#1944
Like scott what would you do if I voted for you instead?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 13 2016 21:42 GMT
#1945
On June 14 2016 00:03 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 12:46 Jealous wrote:
Skynx/EC/Tictock all voted for the same person each day, except when TT did shennanies onto BTDT. Skynx always votes before EC. EC waited for another person to vote in between them in 2/3 days, except when he was last vote. Ticktock voted between the two of them on both of those instances, and shennanied later. They never voted first for the person who ended up lynched. The only person to note vote for the same person on those days is BTDT. So, unless scott is scum, then two of Skynx/EC/Tictock were working as a 2 man voting/bandwagoning cell. It's worth it to examine their interactions with each other.

Looking back at Day 1 data, we have:

+ Show Spoiler [beentheredonethat] +
BTDT reads Superbia, QuickTwist, Tumblewood town
BTDT reads MoosyDoosy scum
BTDT votes MoosyDoosy
BTDT reads Jealous scum based off Tumblewood

+ Show Spoiler [emperorchampion] +
Emperorchampion reads QuickTwist town
Emperorchampion defends QT, points at Moosy
EC softreads Tumble, QT scum
EC reads Skynx, Tumble, QT, Jealous as scum
EC reads Superbia, TT town
EC votes QT
EC says if QT town, Tumble town, Jealous scum

+ Show Spoiler [Skynx] +
Skynx reads Jealous town, Superbia scum
Skynx votes QuickTwist
Skynx defends sqrtneg1, points at FecalFeast
Skynx reads Tumble, EC town
Skynx reads QT, Superbia scum
Skynx defends Jealous @QT
Skynx points BC

+ Show Spoiler [Tictock] +
Tictock casts a fake vote for kushmountain
Tictock reads Moosy scum
Tictock reads Tumblewood town
Tictock says to ignore his previous scum reads lol
Tictock reads Jealous town
Tictock reads Superbia, Tumblewood, Moosy, blkcoffee town
Tictock reads QuickTwist, emperorchampion scum
Tictock votes QuickTwist
Tictock reads Jealous scum
TT points at FF for plynch
TT reads QT, Skynx scum
TT wants to lynch Skynx
TT reads QT scum
TT reads QT scum
TT reads QT, kush, Skynx, EC scum
TT corrects EC for BTDT
TT votes BTDT
TT defends BC


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Show nested quote +
Skynx/EC/Tictock all voted for the same person each day, except when TT did shennanies onto BTDT.

You voted same person each day as well.

Show nested quote +
They never voted first for the person who ended up lynched.

I wrote the QT case, Moosy was a troll vote and you were in the original argument and counter-voted him.
I started kush train as well along with Super.
That being said I'm conservative with my votes and I'm not a fan of changing them since a sudden change of opinion would draw more suspicion on me when already half of you guys are sr'ing me from n1.

Show nested quote +
then two of Skynx/EC/Tictock were working as a 2 man voting/bandwagoning cell.

I called TT bandwagonning D2 altho I tr him along with pretty much everyone save Moosy.

I don't see how this is all relevant tho.


Bolded feels like scum mindset
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 13 2016 21:43 GMT
#1946
On June 14 2016 06:41 Jealous wrote:
Like scott what would you do if I voted for you instead?


Vote for me probably :'(
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 13 2016 21:45 GMT
#1947
On June 13 2016 16:20 scott31337 wrote:
I know nk's are wifom, but from so many game I have obs'ed as well - dead mafia are usually on the right track as well and speak no cases.


This I'm a little confused about, I think btdt wanted to lynch you no?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2016 22:28 GMT
#1948
On June 14 2016 06:39 Jealous wrote:
Scott you should vote for who you want to vote for and not just follow me, because 1. I am a dumb newb and 2. I might shennanie again.


But you are confirmed town newb

And it's 4-2 MYLO, only one townie can refrain from the pack or else we lose, so I also like to consolidate.

I'm okay with Skynx or EC right now - I like Tictock's d1 so I think he's town and every one else i think is town as well.

If I could convince you to go on Skynx I'd be okay with that, but I want to consolidate for now.

Now, if you think one or the other could be the RB, I'd love to get him first, because then mafia won't waste two nights to get rid of you.

On June 14 2016 06:45 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 16:20 scott31337 wrote:
I know nk's are wifom, but from so many game I have obs'ed as well - dead mafia are usually on the right track as well and speak no cases.


This I'm a little confused about, I think btdt wanted to lynch you no?


No, this was about Fecalfeast and I thought it was a pretty weird kill - so I re-read his filter and reposted the parts I thought were interesting in his filter (although there wasn't much)

On June 14 2016 06:39 emperorchampion wrote:
Also, scott:

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 22:27 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 13 2016 11:36 scott31337 wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers


hmm


Do you disagree?



Yes, I disagree - if were lynching a town, it doesn't make much sense for mafia to want to sheannie, they would rather get the mislynch.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2016 22:46 GMT
#1949
I wrote mafia in that wifom post and not town - oopsie - that may have been what the confusion was for.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 13 2016 23:27 GMT
#1950
Scott do you think Skynx and EC are the last two mafia?

Personally I'm kinda coming back to this game with fresh eyes since I was away for a full couple of days. I'm seeing a couple of possible worlds that both seem equally likely atm.

I was playing this game without doing real filter dives just skimming for key posts, but I think I might need to try and cross check a few things.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 13 2016 23:29 GMT
#1951
@ Emp

I'm not sure how you can look at my EoD2 and think I was hedging my bets.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 13 2016 23:35 GMT
#1952
Also for Skynx.

You had a scum read on me for most of the game, can you tell me what your read of me is now and what (if anything) has changed?
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 14 2016 02:29 GMT
#1953
On June 14 2016 07:46 scott31337 wrote:
I wrote mafia in that wifom post and not town - oopsie - that may have been what the confusion was for.


Ah OK, this makes a lot more sense lol
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 14 2016 02:32 GMT
#1954
On June 14 2016 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 06:39 Jealous wrote:
Scott you should vote for who you want to vote for and not just follow me, because 1. I am a dumb newb and 2. I might shennanie again.


But you are confirmed town newb

And it's 4-2 MYLO, only one townie can refrain from the pack or else we lose, so I also like to consolidate.

I'm okay with Skynx or EC right now - I like Tictock's d1 so I think he's town and every one else i think is town as well.

If I could convince you to go on Skynx I'd be okay with that, but I want to consolidate for now.

Now, if you think one or the other could be the RB, I'd love to get him first, because then mafia won't waste two nights to get rid of you.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 06:45 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 13 2016 16:20 scott31337 wrote:
I know nk's are wifom, but from so many game I have obs'ed as well - dead mafia are usually on the right track as well and speak no cases.


This I'm a little confused about, I think btdt wanted to lynch you no?


No, this was about Fecalfeast and I thought it was a pretty weird kill - so I re-read his filter and reposted the parts I thought were interesting in his filter (although there wasn't much)

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 06:39 emperorchampion wrote:
Also, scott:

On June 13 2016 22:27 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 13 2016 11:36 scott31337 wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers


hmm


Do you disagree?



Yes, I disagree - if were lynching a town, it doesn't make much sense for mafia to want to sheannie, they would rather get the mislynch.


The context behind this as well is that Moosy is town reading btdt, then town reading TT and fecal for vote switching to btdt. Of course, now that we have more information it can be read as a town move, but at the time I don't think you can draw anything from it.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 14 2016 06:17 GMT
#1955
Scott I want you precisely explain why TT is 100% town for you here. Enough to ignore him.

Also why are EC and skynx both mafia? Where are you getting this information from?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 14 2016 06:19 GMT
#1956
TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen.

Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 14 2016 06:20 GMT
#1957
I'll be around for EoD today for sure. Jealous and myself should and will decide the kill.

Skynx you need to step it up bigtime, because if I cannot decide at EoD, I'm going to default on you most likely.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 14 2016 06:21 GMT
#1958
I need to phrase some question for EC but idk what atm. Will revisit way later today prob.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 14 2016 06:23 GMT
#1959
EC we have two lynches. If you could decide both of them, what would they be? And why?

Why is the third person town?
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
June 14 2016 06:58 GMT
#1960
On June 14 2016 15:23 Superbia wrote:
EC we have two lynches. If you could decide both of them, what would they be? And why?

Why is the third person town?

IDEALLY we have two lynches ;-;

I'm working on a big post again btw so maybe we should coordinate after that is finalized.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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