EPTThe second to last quote I don't understand what he is saying.
Then the last quote kinda looks like he is attacking ff for wanting to vote off sl?
all in all doesn't look too good for Shape.
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
The second to last quote I don't understand what he is saying. Then the last quote kinda looks like he is attacking ff for wanting to vote off sl? all in all doesn't look too good for Shape. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On April 20 2016 18:58 Koshi wrote: Well. With limited posts people push out reads harder because they want other people to react on them and confirm their suspicion, or just pressure people with the reads, or further the game and spark discussion. It's a good thing. Also hard reading people town forces mafia to do shit because they might feel antsy if it is true. tldr: I also wont lynch TT before I have at least 1 good reason to townread everybody else. That post was really good and set the bar high for everybody to follow. I also townread Damdred for starting the game. I dislike both LS and Shape. Doesn't mean they are mafia but their entrance was weak. But town can enter weak if they pick it up. Shape ending his 5 fluff posts with a pretty unimportant question and then fucking off for x hours is bad. LS is trying but not making waves. I have issues with this post: Sounds townie but could so easily be made by mafia. Just like most post you make are pure reactionary and controlling. I don't remember you as somebody who is controlling the thread. this post is self-inconsistent and generally bad tt read is whatever, damdred read is mediocre (scum or town can start the game and koshi should know that). ls is "trying" which should imply towniness but koshi still dislikes him. also that ff read is hot fresh trash. [side note, that ff quote makes me think he's town now that sl is flipped scum] On April 20 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote: ##vote Fecalfeast I have issues with almost all his posts. Sicklucker his vote on LS was 100% trashtier reasoning and the comment from FF on it seems too much like buddying. Townie should be grilling sicklucker his bad play or just add something decent on how LS is approaching this game. The lazy +1 on a in my opinion really useless vote on LS by sl just looks fucking horrible; Also TT could be town for sure. But again. True statement that seems like a townie that is paying attention and that seems correct. But the way FF is making posts is not to make a difference or push his opinion. It's all a bit too calculated, too prudent and I don't like it for a bit. sl did a scummy thing but nah remember ff is the real scum here On April 21 2016 04:05 Koshi wrote: I understand that you could be town and do the things the way you did as town. But I don't understand why. 1) I put pressure on FF. 2) You say 5 lines about FF that say NOTHING AT ALL. DOES NOT FURTHER THE GAME AT ALL. TAKES PRESSURE AWAY FROM FF. And just undermines my pressure. 3) You do this for no apparent good reason because you are completely null on FF. this is good though i like this then he talked about ls for a while but i didn't have a conclusion to draw from it On April 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote DoYouHas reasoning is the read on Shape. I don't understand how that makes anybody scum. I don't understand how town DYH has Shape as his top scumread: this dyh vote is pretty poorly reasoned because dyh's scumread was pretty legit On April 22 2016 05:46 Koshi wrote: Dnu. I think sl is actually so extremely horrible he is maybe not mafia :/ dumb townread on sl On April 22 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote: Are we lynching HTS? I am up for it. this doesn't make sense because a while ago he wanted to keep hts around there's no real progression on his hts read, just varying stages of okness with her lynch koshi is possible scum but in no way is this certain; if he is town i don't know what signal to expect because his huge spamfests will have to condense into 40 posts, but i think i'll know Koshi: How did your read evolve on HtS? (as in, your reasons to change it) Why did you make a big WoT and then go vote Shape? (and why are you voting him) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Shouldn't you talk to me more? You are voting and saying I am scum for ages but never try to engage me or try to proof I am mafia. Kinda terrible play. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 24 2016 05:07 Koshi wrote: The first bunch of quotes are all pretty much in range of mafia on mafia. The second to last quote I don't understand what he is saying. Then the last quote kinda looks like he is attacking ff for wanting to vote off sl? all in all doesn't look too good for Shape. 9 And this is why Shapelog is Mafia? Can you please summarise to me all the reason you think Shapelog is Mafia? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 24 2016 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: Koshi: How did your read evolve on HtS? (as in, your reasons to change it) Why did you make a big WoT and then go vote Shape? (and why are you voting him) 1) 1 good post. and then me thinking it could be LS being mafia. But atm I am back to LS being 100% town and HTS mehish. Even though she does a lot of work I just dislike some thingies. But sure, probably town. 2) I dont' remember what WoT I did. If it is the thing on gumshoe it was just me opening his filter and taking some quotes. Dnu. gumshoe almost looks too bad to be mafia. On April 24 2016 05:11 GlowingBear wrote: 9 And this is why Shapelog is Mafia? Can you please summarise to me all the reason you think Shapelog is Mafia? I have no real reasons to think he is mafia except for the fact he is not really town and there is no real townie anything coming from him. Which I had 2 games ago when he was town. And didn't have when he was mafia. He just looks town by game events when he is mafia. And is town by his posting when he is town. anyway DOTA tiems | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
This is much shorter btw gumshoe is either obvious scum or derp town here... i have a personal rule that there are no obvious scum, but gumshoe may have just broken it because he messed up, gave a shitty excuse, and then gave up i also don't think i'll ever be able to think (bar a legit blue claim) that gum is a solid townie this game based on how bad his last 48 hours were voting gumshoe is a pretty obvious choice here so i'm going to do that ##vote: gumshoe | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 24 2016 05:14 Koshi wrote: 1) 1 good post. and then me thinking it could be LS being mafia. But atm I am back to LS being 100% town and HTS mehish. Even though she does a lot of work I just dislike some thingies. But sure, probably town. 2) I dont' remember what WoT I did. If it is the thing on gumshoe it was just me opening his filter and taking some quotes. Dnu. gumshoe almost looks too bad to be mafia. I have no real reasons to think he is mafia except for the fact he is not really town and there is no real townie anything coming from him. Which I had 2 games ago when he was town. And didn't have when he was mafia. He just looks town by game events when he is mafia. And is town by his posting when he is town. anyway DOTA tiems 10 So you think I'm town? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 24 2016 05:15 Tumblewood wrote: The case on gumshoe: This is much shorter btw gumshoe is either obvious scum or derp town here... i have a personal rule that there are no obvious scum, but gumshoe may have just broken it because he messed up, gave a shitty excuse, and then gave up i also don't think i'll ever be able to think (bar a legit blue claim) that gum is a solid townie this game based on how bad his last 48 hours were voting gumshoe is a pretty obvious choice here so i'm going to do that ##vote: gumshoe 11 This makes no sense at all. Are you the vigi? | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
disclaimer: even though i am trying a new way of reading him, keep in mind that i have been wrong on shape literally every game with him where i was town i feel like you can't really read shapelog based on content or all of that lame stuff easier for me, because i have no obligation to quote anything. woohoo! comparing shape's town and scum games, as town he works through his reads in posts more often and as scum he posts a lot more short comments arguing with other people's reasoning... i supposed i'd call them "well this is weird/wrong/bad" posts. there will be fewer, of course, because he has to consolidate everything into a third of his usual posts per day, but it's the manner that counts, y'know? the one thing i notice about his play compared to his usual meta is that he only posts when he has something to say-- so, no spam (okay, less spam) and no reads-in-progress. this is probably due for the most part to the post restriction, but maybe i'm buying too much into that. shape is null to me for now but i expect to have a read on him once he posts more. i would not vote him yet. also, his supposed self-consciousness is probably not super alignment-indicative. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
My read on GB is "meh" | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On April 24 2016 05:17 GlowingBear wrote: 11 This makes no sense at all. Are you the vigi? you've seen gumshoe's filter, right? because it totally makes sense to me. he defended sl for most of d1, joined wagons that made no sense, and then after the sl flip conceded to his own lynch. he's completely off of his normal town game (somehow in a post-restricted game he has fewer walls of text) and makes no sense to keep around. the only reason to possibly tr him is "too scummy to be scum". [plus, gumshoe pls, you can't use my super secret spew tactics and not at least try to get some benefit out of it] and yes i am the vig look in my filter for the claim + crumbs | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I have no real reasons to think he is mafia except for the fact he is not really town and there is no real townie anything coming from him. Which I had 2 games ago when he was town. And didn't have when he was mafia. He just looks town by game events when he is mafia. And is town by his posting when he is town. Well, you can't really tell someone is town by his way of posting when you're playing a post-restricted game. You're basically said he looks town by game events and that makes him mafia (so, meta-read). But you've just posted this: On April 24 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote Shape Underwhelming. I am also thinking people are pretty townie. So what is the real reason you're voting Shape? Is that because he looks underwhelming or because of that bad meta? Also, you said you're also voting Shape because people are pretty townie to you. So how am I "meh"? Why are you not willing to vote me? Isn't "meh" basically "underwhelming"? Which means there are more underwhelming people in the game by your own standards. So why going against Shapelog, who actually posted a lot Day1? By normal standards, I am kinda underwhelming this game based on my inactivity (and I'm inactive because I've been busy), DYH is also underwhelming. Why are you not talking about them? Why didn't you lynch SL who was pretty much underwhelming day1? Why did you pressured people asking them "why aren't you voting SL"? Also, are you sure you find people townie? : On April 23 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote: Man looking at this vote count this looks pretty bad for me. Sicklucker was not lynched due to these people: now with tumble town and me being town that looks somewhat really bad for gum. I can't think for shit atm so I will just wait till I got some time to look into this. I guess I got to look into gum (which I found really fishy early, not the same as how he opened in the numbered game but he tried to look the same, which makes it suspicious). And then I got to look into hts and see if she was setting up this tumble ml. Would be impressive. So if gumshoe is looking bad... how are you townreading everyone? Why aren't you pressuring/voting gumshoe WHO IS LOOKING BAD instead of simply voting Shapelog who has been UNDERWHELMING? See, Koshi, your thought process isn't clear. It looks like you throw thoughts out of the blue without any kind of consistency. You're following your own agenda. That's why I think you're mafia. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I am not caring too much D2 so that's why I don't have much reads atm. I'll go with the flow. D1 I tried and failed. cba atm. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
You're not going with the flow, you're voting Shapelog when people are highly suspicious of gumshoe. You can explain yourself or let me waste my last 28+5 posts screaming LYNCH KOSHI until I get you lynched. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Can you care to explain those inconsistencies, at least? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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