EPTOn April 22 2016 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Then why are you voting for SL?????????????????????????????????
Then why are you voting for SL?????????????????????????????????
Mistake XD, [/QUOTE]
Imagine if this is a slip.
lolololol
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Mistake XD, [/QUOTE] Imagine if this is a slip. lolololol | ||
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Koshi
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great way to waste a post. But too funny not to put it in here in its full glory. Then there are these (defending sl?): On April 22 2016 07:01 gumshoe wrote: Sl should have posted more by now / : for..... Reasons I am not supposed to say exist. Could kill ff as he's been active but lack luster but that is apparently his meta so watcha gonna do. I probably won't lynch outside those 2 plus tick for today. On April 22 2016 07:14 gumshoe wrote: I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up. Ff is the better choice methinks. Both quotes look pretty bad. Suggesting to town that they should not lynch sl. And then after he joined the fefe wagon he kinda stops playing the game (which he didn't do after voting sl, then he kept looking for a "better" target. And start apologizing to TT. On April 22 2016 07:19 gumshoe wrote: Cause it's not happening, and my day is shit anyways so maybe that's for the best. also my cp is kinda fucked up so posting this all from phone, I don't feel cozy really pushing someone without quotes and time stamps. On April 22 2016 07:27 gumshoe wrote: Sl wagon join was an accident XD phone fingers are on auto pilot Also I'm not bieng opportunistic, I'm bieng realistic. You have been far more active then me, regardless of alignment your playing a better game honestly ATM, and I can't use qoutes and shit on this thing. So yeah, I don't really feel like screaming tick rock is mafia impotently till flip. Better to lend my weight to whichever said I think has a higher chance of red. After, all there is more than one scum. Looks like a good lynch. I also think he is acting really guilty in his last couple posts. Makes sense if you are mafia and you know what you did/how you look. | ||
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Koshi
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Because the Damdred shot does not point to you. | ||
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Fidei86
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Fidei86
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Dani do you at least accept that is highly suspicious? | ||
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Fidei86
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As I said before, if Dani makes it to D4ish, I'm going to get the mega tin foil out. But for now, I'm okay with her as town. TW is town obviously. I'm pretty sold on LS as town, actually. The issue I have now is that all of Shape, GB and DYH have been particularly underwhelming. I'd put shape at the higher end of that, but DYH and GB have been borderline useless. I think looking carefully at their filters, which I'll do now, is likely to yield dividends in terms of solving this game. (Yes, I accept I just flipped on my two top scum reads, was wrong on Damdred and SL and have also been very questionable this game. But I know I'm town, so there). | ||
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The main thing I want from GB is to get over losing Damdred, his only strong read, and tell the rest of us what he's thinking. | ||
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LightningStrike
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GlowingBear
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On April 24 2016 00:41 Fidei86 wrote: I want to believe GB is town, but he has been so low energy, and his list post was so nit-picky, I cannot rule him out. The main thing I want from GB is to get over losing Damdred, his only strong read, and tell the rest of us what he's thinking. Hello. Nitpicky on what? I don't trust a single word from Koshi. This is where I'm at atm. Everything he says looks forced to me. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Day 2: gumshoe (3) - Tictock, gumshoe, Koshi Tumblewood (1) - Half the Sky, Not voted (6) - Shapelog, Fidei86, DoYouHas, Tumblewood, GlowingBear, LightningStrike At the current vote, gumshoe is slated to be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Fidei86
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On April 24 2016 01:25 GlowingBear wrote: Hello. Nitpicky on what? I don't trust a single word from Koshi. This is where I'm at atm. Everything he says looks forced to me. All of your reads were based on one or two posts from those people, and your issues with those posts were ... Minor I'd say. So are you saying you think Koshi is Mafia? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On April 24 2016 01:29 Fidei86 wrote: All of your reads were based on one or two posts from those people, and your issues with those posts were ... Minor I'd say. So are you saying you think Koshi is Mafia? Yes. I wasn't being nitpicky. Damdred turns out to be town. I've townread him based on a few posts. Those initial posts were pretty informational to me | ||
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Fidei86
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@LS Don't think that's a helpful way of finding scum | ||
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Half the Sky
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Alright, the vig claim (which I'll believe) - I'll reconstruct. ##unvote I'm concerned for GB, not only just as a solo vote, but if you look at his questions to Damdred in night phase, it appears to such like a combination of buddying and abdication of blame (he was a solo voter but tried to guilt Damdred for not realising the wagon wasn't hitting mafia). Also look at whom he suggested - Koshi/gumshoe/LS. I am still somewhat leery with Koshi (pending re-read of his most recent posts - I'm not fully caught up), but he doesn't seem to be going anywhere with anything. The biggest indicator of an associative read between GlowingBear and SL might be Day 1, look at how the SL read just DROPS from post 142 to 253 and after. And considering how SL pushed me and that GB didn't put me on his post-lynch suspicion list (recap: it was Koshi/LS/gumshoe), it is quite suspicious. Post requoted: On April 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote: 4 Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because: 1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game 2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all. Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective On April 22 2016 03:04 GlowingBear wrote: I know the case on SL isn't the strongest. Although I think his attitude was suspicious, I only wanted to keep developing discussion. I also like to push a target in a way everything is explained in details, whatever slignment he is, because I think mafia has a hard time covering all aspects of their stories. Regardless if a post is NAI or AI, a hard push will almost always reveal inconsistencies if the player's intention is made up Some feedback on that would be nice. | ||
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Half the Sky
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I also noticed one minor mistake in last night's reconstruct, so I'll re-colour with Tumbleweed in blue... Shapelog I feel from pure voting is unlikely to be mafia, otherwise he was in the process of engineering a sick bus on sicklucker. IDK. I need to double check that read progression. Vote Reconstruction v2 2124, approx 2h prior to EoD On April 22 2016 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: LightningStrike (2) - Half the Sky, GlowingBear DoYouHas (2) - Koshi, Tumblewood Half the Sky (1) - LightningStrike Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Koshi (1) - sicklucker Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 Not voted (5) - Shapelog, DoYouHas, Damdred, gumshoe, Fecalfeast 2244, approx 45m prior to EoD - sicklucker was the hammer On April 22 2016 06:44 Hapahauli wrote: Sicklucker (3) - FecalFeast, Damdred, Shapelog LightningStrike (2) - Half the Sky, GlowingBear DoYouHas (2) - Koshi, Tumblewood Half the Sky (1) - LightningStrike Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Koshi (1) - sicklucker Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 TicTock (1) - Gumshoe Not Voting (1) - DoYouHas 2315, or 15m to EoD - sickucker STILL the lynch with most votes DISCLAIMER: I reconstructed from here on out with strikethroughs this vote from the voting thread - call me out if I've made a mistake. Sicklucker (4) - FecalFeast, Fecalfeast (3) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Damdred LightningStrike (1) - Half the Sky (1) - LightningStrike Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Koshi (1) - sicklucker Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 TicTock (0) - Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas DoYouHas (0) - 2316, or 14m to EoD - gumshoe effectively hammers FF Fecalfeast (4) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Damdred, gumshoe Sicklucker (3) - FecalFeast, LightningStrike (1) - Half the Sky (1) - LightningStrike Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Koshi (1) - sicklucker Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 TicTock (0) - Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas DoYouHas (0) - 2327, or 3m to EoD - Town pile on FF Fecalfeast (6) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Damdred, gumshoe, Half the Sky, Shapelog Half the Sky (2) - LightningStrike, sicklucker LightningStrike (1) - Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 TicTock (0) - Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas Damdred (1) - Fecalfeast DoYouHas (0) - Koshi (0) - Sicklucker (0) - 2330 - End of Day 1 Fecalfeast (5) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Half the Sky (2) - LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) - Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas Damdred (1) - Fecalfeast Koshi (1) - DoYouHas (0) - Sicklucker (0) - TicTock (0) - So looking at this, I am a bit worried, I still have my phobias from Day 1 on Koshi but I got a WIFOM feeling from gumshoe's last posts. I think there's one mafia between Koshi/gumshoe based on the Fecalfeast wagon. Fidei had been all over the shop with his reads, but I gotta re-read him. From votes alone, Shapelog is looking better but I need to see whether shit is off between him and sicklucker. I know sicklucker commented jack all on him, it was all about me. DYH - I will put questions to him in another post. He's just posted too little and we just need more informations from him. Tictock, if mafia is a sleeper mafia...but I'm doubting it based on the quality of his posts. I'm doubting it at the moment. I'll re-read that filter that to be sure. For now, it's one of in Koshi/gumshoe as mafia. Fidei needs a review, Shapelog needs a review for filter. There is one mafia somewhere in DYH/GlowingBear. Tictock and LS I am thinking are town. This is where I stand atm. | ||
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Half the Sky
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If I absolutely had to pick a mafia between gumshoe and Koshi....right now? I'd say gumshoe. One additional point from the votes against gumshoe is the 2315 mark - where gumshoe is the 4th vote when sicklucker is the lynch in a 3:3 tie (voting thread) by a 6 minute spread (Damdred switched to FF). A late vote like that indicates he could have been bussing sicklucker, and these posts don't help that position. On April 22 2016 07:14 gumshoe wrote: I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up. Ff is the better choice methinks. On one hand this is a bad reason to townread or eliminate SL from contention even ignoring SL's meta, which I'll make the assumption gumshoe didn't know. Big list post he's nulling SL day 1. No interaction after SL's re-entry. Not much in the night phase.... If they are both town, then we have a real problem on our hands because that would mean Shapelog is playing really well or all the mafia voted off wagon. And vig being an investigative role means we most likely do not have a DT as our second role. It's possible but not likely. DYH - questions for you. I'm reading your filter. Your latest reads: On April 23 2016 07:28 DoYouHas wrote: Shape - We'll be getting into this more today, but my original reasons for voting him are still good and he is likely scum. Koshi - I want to say Koshi's active and aggressive style is town. But he jumped up and down on me for valid points against Shape. He jumped up and down on HtS for the null read of FF while ignoring things I thought pointed to her being town. I don't think we get into the EoD we had without at least 1 scum in the movers and shakers. (Koshi, HtS, Damd, and maybe TT) Koshi pushed the lynch of 2 town for sure and probably 3. He is attacking town, leading lynches on town and after being proven wrong on FF he still wants to off HtS instead of stepping back and reassessing. Thinking he could be scum. HTS - She seems focused and productive. I like the way she pursued her scumreads on LS and TW early. She isn't getting mad at all the pressure thrown her way, trying to talk to people. Last time I caught her as scum she used her higher activity to spread suspicion on lots of the town and then letting others take up her ideas and run with them. She isn't doing that here. Only her EoD vote leaves doubt for me. According to NM HtS voting off her main targets to lynch someone scumming her is a big tell. I'm still going with my gut and thinking she is town. Fid - I'm pretty familiar with Fid's scum game. I don't think this is it. Scum fid would be even less active than he has been here. He wouldn't be shying away from getting into it with LS like we are seeing here. The well-documented troubles that Fid has with LS would be a great excuse to fake activity without producing content. I also don't think we would see that drunk post from scum Fid. SL - I'm putting off making a decision on him. I don't have strong feelings either way and he promised more activity today. Damdred - Cautiously optimistic. Gumshoe - Cautiously optimistic. LS - dunno TW, GB, TT havent gotten to yet I see we're on the same page re: Koshi, prob Fidei. Admittedly a point against you is that there was zero interaction between you and sicklucker, either way. (1) Do you think Shape's voting patterns make him less likely mafia in your eyes? Or are you seeing something in those too that I might be not? (Anyone else?) (2) We're going to need you to weigh in on GlowingBear and gumshoe. I gotta AFK again. I'll finish thoroughly reading later today or tonight... | ||
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Koshi
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And then GB is like "Yes" And then Fidei is like "you R pretty cool bro, I townread you" | ||
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