TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3

On March 24 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and hi tumblewood any thoughts so far on this game?

On March 24 2016 10:27 LightningStrike wrote:

Can you reread what me,SL, gun, and Super were talking about? I did thought you would at least taken some more notes on that.

On March 24 2016 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:

Hi
You, SL, gum, and Superb have been yelling about stuff and I've glossed over nearly all of it, though there's probably something to be extracted from it. Damdred, Shapelog, Kurumi and ritoky were technically in the thread, but they've done very little. The only point I can kinda dig is Vivax's concerning gumshoe, which I think is valid to bring up, but gumshoe's claim isn't provably true or false. I want to see more (people and posts) before I make a judgment with any weight behind it, because any read in the first ten pages is usually wrong and I don't think my reads are starting any useful discussion. TL;DR not yet

On March 24 2016 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:

About the straw-grasping: There wasn't much in the thread hence I tried to get some discussion going. Not all my reads are meta as my gun one is without meta(I didn't read his games yet but probably will after playing some LoL)

On March 24 2016 13:06 Damdred wrote:
Nobody is confirmed in a closed setup until they die basically, there is always doubt that's why bill hard carried last storm by fake claiming blue and town eating it up.

Give up the fishing and its kind of a meh conversation honestly.

LS is probably town tour read rit is just horrible on him in general.

Anyway

On March 25 2016 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:

You voted him too. Why are the wagon starters scum then?

On March 25 2016 03:21 justanothertownie wrote:

Why the fuck did I think that you voted? I am confused.

So you think townies never push other townies? That seems a little bit ridiculous.

On March 27 2016 09:18 LightningStrike wrote:

Rels potentially, VA, Vivax +1.
Rels usually have a stronger presence as town but activity is nay.
VA not really having his usual sharpness(this is a meta read that I borrowing from kushm4sta) and all he did was pretty much complained and didn't do anything outside of that.
Vivax fallen off real hard since his big spur of actvity and he is known for lurking as scum.

On March 27 2016 09:28 LightningStrike wrote:

Usually he would have a super smart post but he havne't did one yet.

On March 27 2016 09:53 sandroba wrote:
@rsoul if you are town we are in a really bad spot, since I really think you are mafia and multiple people I think are town do as well. Also your assertion that ritoky is scum is getting old and needs to be more substanciated if you are going to insist on it. Honestly this short rebutal post helps with nothing, if you are town you need to be doing a ton of work and shitting rainbows. Probably claiming as well.

On March 27 2016 11:32 sandroba wrote:
I mean in rsoul's head she is being outplayed pretty hard by mafia ritoky who is convincing everybody she is scum, yet she doesn't sound emotinal, driven, determined, nothing. She sounds meek and is going to just roll over and die to the scum trying to lynch her. Does not add up honestly.

On March 28 2016 05:31 Damdred wrote:
So I went and read kur filter a bit more to see maybe he bread crumbed his shot or was implying that he was a vig.

And to my eyes he did and it holds up to the flow of his claim/shot. He starts off by warning koshi that if he didn't play normally that kurm would arrange a meeting between the two of them, and his last read post he had koshi as his top scum. I don't think it's super clear cut but the way I'm leaning to last night going was,

Scum shoots SL ( uses his power like a boss. Blocks scum shot)
Stutters gets show by Sandroba (can only shoot after a town is lynched)
Kurm vig shoots koshi (medic saves koshi blocking kp)
Final scum kp goes out (is blocked by medic)
Rs supposedly receives item from stutters

Most of that isn't provable but yeah whatever just writing down what I think.

Kinda meh about a few people, Tumble probably is the strangest person to me so far. Soon as I get home I'll show why but some of his posts just seem like he's trying to hard pocket people, and jump on pushes for sort of,meh reasons. Plus he didn't vote yesterday even though he thought tube was Scum ( I think) just didn't care about the lynch.

On March 28 2016 13:47 Tictock wrote:


Just because I think you are town does not mean I agree with all your reads.

Also ... the irony of wanting to lynch me for scum reading "low hanging fruit" >.< (how are Kuru and Rsoul low hanging fruit?)

On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info.

On March 29 2016 03:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax what do you think of tumblewood and his most recent "lynch both wagons and leave" attitude?

On March 29 2016 03:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax what do you think of tumblewood and his most recent "lynch both wagons and leave" attitude?

On March 29 2016 06:41 Damdred wrote:


Your going to die why should I switch to someone else?

On March 29 2016 06:53 Damdred wrote:
Give reads tumble last will

On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info.

On March 29 2016 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:


No meaningful interactions with my other scumreads, his post where he says ritoky "is digging himself a hole" like he know ritoky is town and fucking himself over or something, the post where he said he needs to justify why he is going afk is scummy to me, Asking a lot of meaningless questions, he also made one of those stupid readlists with the half scum/half town names and shit just like tictock did. Middle of the line filter length, generally forgettable but smart enough posts to stay undetected.

On March 30 2016 09:54 sandroba wrote:

?
I would think a townie would argue here that his questions were not useless?

On March 30 2016 10:05 sandroba wrote:
@tumble please explain and exemplify your strong town read on rels.
Also when you asked those questions didn't you have any intent behind them? Why do you think your questions were subpar?

On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:

WOW
This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT
Never lynching

On March 26 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:

I can understand scumreading rsoul but not over tube. Why is he town ?

On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:

This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game.
He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.

On April 02 2016 14:33 ritoky wrote:
Tumblewood:

this post reads very mafia:



he comments later about not understanding why. it is because it does nothing. there's no town motivation to this post. it simply is opportunisticly pushing on a player under pressure. now i am biased cuz it was me, but essentially; you're not furthering the case on me, you're not voting on me, you're not contributing a real point of view or new information, so why make this post? what is there to contribute or gain from making this post? it has no point other than to try and get on the good side of things and ride the current.

I am on the fence on this one, it is either very mafia or complete newb:



you also didn't understand later why this post can be read mafia i think. the reason is that you're scared. townies, like take me for example, have a certain bravado or confidence about themselves. they know they are town so how could anyone possibly read them as anything but what they are? they speak their minds openly and without fear of the retribution; and when people scum read them most of the time there is a significant emotional response cuz what the fuck are these idiots doing they are obviously town. this post demonstrates that you're scared of being scum read which in essence is a scum mindset. you feel like you need excuses or people will call you scum, but that is a thought that shouldn't even be on a townie's mind.

a non-specific note: you use the word insightful a ton...and i believe english is your primary language. being redundant on explaining reads and verbage can be mafia indicative for people, not enough experience with you to make that call.

There's a lot wrong with these reads:



specifically town leans on 2 confirmed mafia, no stance on me, no town read on jat who was shitting town out of his eyes, and really weird reads on damdred and sandroba....particularly sandroba who i believe had claimed vigi at this point.....but you believed slam's claim easily? that doesn't make a ton of sense.

then when you get to your VA case you say this:



like what? there are no valid reasons to scum read you if you're town. they're all shit. that line implies there are good reasons out there to scum read you but VA just didn't pick the right ones. that might just be picking on a newb though.

dunno i have had really good newbdar recently (not saying you're new necessarily, but new to playing with me)....and it isn't blinking overwhelmingly town here like it has past. what he has going for him is that we shennanied off of him onto mafia...mind you if he is mafia that means 3 of the 4 wagons day 2 were mafia (with koshi being unknown) which is a really good thing.

dunno slight mafia lean, would think more mafia but has good vote logic going for him.

On April 04 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:

Kill all 3. Win game.

On April 04 2016 06:26 Superbia wrote:
"Let's not read those really townie posts lol"

On April 04 2016 06:33 ritoky wrote:


this is the same style opportunistic attempted bury post you had about me earlier...the "ritoky is digging deeper" or w/e style post......they are real bad.

On April 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Go to tumble look at him justifying jumping off a town flip in super, only to say he will vote ls to save himself. He doesn't think anyone is scum vote him.

On March 29 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
100% confirmed town forever
Damdred
Vivax
Rels
Alakaslam/scott31337

Also probably town
justanothertownie
sandroba
sicklucker
Shapelog

Not lynching
ObiWanShinobi
ritoky
LightningStrike

Scum pool 1
Kurumi
Koshi

Scum pool 2
VayneAuthority
rsoultin
Superbia

On the brink of death, I had one moment of clarity. + Show Spoiler +Several people cleared their names entirely, leaving one scum in scum pool 1 and two scum in scum pool 2.