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On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT.
Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that?
Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway?
SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately.
Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe.
On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill.
Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this?
I think you're super scummy now
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Ok Im an idiot I totally forgot to look at the D1 votecount, maybe rsoultin isnt mafia
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TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.
I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.
Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.
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nah man OWS is town and sandroba is probably mafia, easy as that.
Solution can easily be the nulls from VAs list with exception of LS.
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On March 29 2016 23:22 sandroba wrote:
koshi and vivax are already pretty bad separetely, it's even worse when they are in agreement
I showered you with questions on the last page and all you do is pop in to complain and do nothing useful, you should write a guide "how to make sure that you get lynched".
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On March 29 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:About sandroba: Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do? This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game. He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal. This post + his claim on shooting someone scum would like to keep to mislynch makes him 99% town.
I call bull. It's a super easy post to make as mafia, why are you so gullible?
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On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.
It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.
So you're soft claiming something and expect to live through the night and not be confirmed mafia?
Plus if you think that playing badly to hide your role includes pushing mislynches with shitty arguments is a play that's acceptable for a blue, then I call bull on this as well. Being less active than usual is fine, doing stuff that can be construed as scummy but not enough to get yourself lynched is fine, but pushing shitty mislynches is not fine and not blue.
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I always ALWAYS have in the back of my head something very important, I'm not 100% sold on the version I'm proposing with superbia/JAT/Sandro/SL/TT combination.
What is still possible is a Koshi or Tumblewood or rsoultin/Rels/Shape/TT/someone (probably still SL or sandro) combination and scum decided to make a play yesterday joining the shenannies to bus their weakest member and save another.
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On March 29 2016 06:51 Vivax wrote:
JAT is completely avoiding TT cause he wants to lynch Koshi so badly.
Superbia is avoiding TT.
Rels is avoiding TT.
Kurumi is avoiding TT.
...I think.
And btw these are guys who were rather silent while the shenannies started building up. I was actively looking for people not really commenting on me and Damdred trying to move people to TT. Rels voted at some point but I think afterwards.
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On March 29 2016 23:48 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 21:38 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT. Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that? Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway? SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately. Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe. On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill. Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this? I think you're super scummy now If you are refering to this I chose to ignore it because it's dumb. kurumi says he lost bullet. I have no opinion on that. I think it's plausible. He ask hosts - do i have bullet? - no. what opinion do i need on that? rsoultin questioned - i did ask w/e happened to item, i commented that she didn't tell us shit. It's night, I can't persuade he to do anything. I didn't say sl is vet, but i do think he is, what does that have to do with anything. He could be vet no? you were the one pulling stuff out of your ass saying one of the vigis is mafia, when it's more likely they are all town. sure maybe even the other 2 vigis are mafia, but I have no reason to believe so. why koshi thing is the easiest explanation - Because it is why anyone claim they saved koshi. dunno, the fact is, it is hard to imagine a town doc saving koshi, mafia shooting him, he surviving and mafia coming into the thread saying that the vig'd him and he didn't die, especially with only one flip which came from a town vigi. I get that you don't think koshi is scum because he is spamming the thread, but there are only 3 options: kurumi is mafia fake claiming - this would be pretty random, he had no pressure on him to claim anything, if we lynched koshi and he flipped town kurumi would prob be next mafia roleblocked kurumi - maybe this is the case, I don't find it likely as I believe quite a bit of blues were a bit exposed (especially true if rsoul is town, mafia knew she was prob blue) koshi is mafia and saved by mafia doc - makes sense, TT is flipped mafia doc and they didn't want to lynch each other. koshi was admitedly not behaving acording to his town meta. Doesn't matter how much koshi spams the thread, facts are facts.
You're dumb and bad and scummy. Now we're even and I can talk.
Did you fact check if bullet gets refunded? No, scum points for you. You lack suspicion of the other vig and don''t for example go ask for yourself if bullet gets refunded, You.Just.Don't.Care.
Well then if you did already ask everything and see nothing left why would you say "Yes yes rsoultin needs to be questioned". Clearly you had nothing concrete in mind and just talked out of your butt.
Why do you think SL is vet without any evidence, without looking at how he plays?
And why do you base your entire read on Koshi on his activity and Kurumi's alignment? All your reads are just from claims which is also scummy cause they're super easy to make,
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On March 29 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 23:56 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 06:51 Vivax wrote:
JAT is completely avoiding TT cause he wants to lynch Koshi so badly.
Superbia is avoiding TT.
Rels is avoiding TT.
Kurumi is avoiding TT.
...I think. And btw these are guys who were rather silent while the shenannies started building up. I was actively looking for people not really commenting on me and Damdred trying to move people to TT. Rels voted at some point but I think afterwards. ... I was silent?
You sat on your ass voting Koshi and didn't give any opinion on TT except asking him "oh youve been lurking" very close to the end. You pretty much tried your best to ignore the option of lynching him.
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I feel like I said all I had to say so just one thing left:
IF I get NKd, please just read my stuff, especially about superbia, sandro and rsoultins claim. Also keep in mind the option that a Rels shape scumteam might have sacced TT to save another and get townread in the process.
Pretty much the core points, obviously Kurumi can be mafia too.
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And never forget JAT can easily be mafia, I don't care if you all townread him, during the TT lynch he played poorly and he did a good job at just posting so much about how he was upset about koshi not playing town meta and him deserving to be lynched etc.
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On March 30 2016 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 06:49 Vivax wrote:
And never forget JAT can easily be mafia, I don't care if you all townread him, during the TT lynch he played poorly and he did a good job at just posting so much about how he was upset about koshi not playing town meta and him deserving to be lynched etc. Just because you got lucky with a last minute shenanny lynch on a lurker whch could have easily fucked the votecount over completely you aren't playing a better game.
I wanted to lynch TT since D1, and suggested it during D2 way before deadline shenannies. I was dead set on lynching him even after his shitty reads post
So yes I played better.
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On March 30 2016 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 06:54 Vivax wrote:On March 30 2016 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2016 06:49 Vivax wrote:
And never forget JAT can easily be mafia, I don't care if you all townread him, during the TT lynch he played poorly and he did a good job at just posting so much about how he was upset about koshi not playing town meta and him deserving to be lynched etc. Just because you got lucky with a last minute shenanny lynch on a lurker whch could have easily fucked the votecount over completely you aren't playing a better game. I wanted to lynch TT since D1, and suggested it during D2 way before deadline shenannies. I was dead set on lynching him even after his shitty reads post So yes I played better. There was never any real potential of him being lynched until like 5 minutes before deadline. Only if you had pushed him and built a wagon on him all day you would have played better. There were 3 (!) other wagons. If you don't get enough people which is easily possible you fuck up royally.
Guess what happened after I posted about TT? Rsoultin, you and superbia. Stellar play, diverting from scum.
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Onto more scum so after all its going to be ok
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Doctor roleblocks, he doesnt heal I think
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On March 30 2016 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
x-shot vest to damdy ^^
the guy not getting shot ofc, goodbye town
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Enjoyable game, but too many shallow reads were given based on claims on D2, and as you see post game Palmar tries to counter claimfests with his setups.
Kinda sad VA got lynched, probably the first game in which he could have been TR.
Shape played well and did a good job during the TT shenannies to get himself off the radar for enough days to reach lylo.
Only thing I really would criticize town for is that I was the only guy who noticed superbia making really contrived arguments and not noticing how scummy SLs claim was. But he killed rsoultin I think so kinda good he didnt get lynched previously.
Well deserved scum win. Obi and VA weren't good lynches.
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