EPTTL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3
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On March 09 2016 07:04 Damdred wrote: Anyone who avoids this game doesn't get any Damdred love ever. I've been waiting palmar and marv since storm two ended for my redemption. Much anticipation and hype have filled my soul and with this I very proudly and thankful put /In chuckle worthy post Wasnt storm 2 ur first game here? I vaguely remember being mafia if im not mistaken. | ||
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On March 09 2016 08:14 Damdred wrote: I love IML and to some extent I wish that we had more games that used it. There are pros and cons, the players are more in control of when the day ends for example while there still being a hard deadline I believe in this case. Parts of it are scum favored like the no lynch if nobody cares. There is also the situation where a lynch just gains momentum like the bm lynch in season of a witch and town just acts stupid. Its on the players though. This setup is really difficult for town and mafia and relies on a fairly active town to even be in contention. And I promise va I'll leave him alone d1. And yes vivax was ny first game you got me lynched d4 or d5 when you went 1 v 1. RIP the newbie damdred Yea I genuinely felt bad for you, it was like leading a puppy eyed lamb to the slaughter. Rip damdred the bambi. I like IML cause it rewards mafia if they play well and doesn't force them to be active for 48 h straight. | ||
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On March 20 2016 09:09 marvellosity wrote: topless pics, a back rub, a hug, or a beer whenever i may see you. you choose. the variety is remarkable. you too nocturne. Sounds good, im back /in | ||
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On March 24 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote: Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + Likely Town + Show Spoiler + Maybe town + Show Spoiler + Not going to lynch Town + Show Spoiler + Null + Show Spoiler + VayneAuthority Kurumi Stutters695 Damdred sandroba ObiWanShinobi Rels justanothertownie Tictock ritoky sicklucker Alakaslam Tumblewood Shapelog Vivax rsoultin LightningStrike Superbia Tubesock gumshoe Won't lynch right now Mafia + Show Spoiler + Maybe Mafia + Show Spoiler + Likely Mafia + Show Spoiler + Confirmed Mafia + Show Spoiler + Koshi wrote this up before even getting his pm would be my guess, since there is no other happy koshi or serious koshi stuff he is a scumlean until he starts getting his posting fits again. On March 24 2016 07:25 Damdred wrote: Into the breech once more says I. Who wants to be my right hand man/woman to bring town their first storm victory! Koshi is a interesting person so far, Ritoky less so which is sad The random car pic was more interesting in my opinion, mostly cause it left me wondering whereas Koshi gave me something alignment indicative already. What's your take if you spell it out? On March 24 2016 07:53 gumshoe wrote: Maybe I've missed an evolution somewhere along the line but slam seems to be actually trying as opposed to just flaunting his usual semi troll trot. Which isn't a point I'm going to level against him cause wow that would just be bad, but is of note for better or worse. Damdred is of course fishing as one would expect of ether side, words like interesting are rather neutral. A call to arms is also fairly vague, clearly he has notions of how peeps react to something like that, or mabs he's willing to play it by ear. His post feels cautious and calculated few words as it may be. Which could be scummy depending on his meta ( never played with him ) seems intelligent regardless. Parabola sounds like he just doesn't wanna get anyone on his tail but still wants to appear to be a present and beloved member of town. Could be scums, could just be excited to play, maybe he's bieng light to try to attract heat for said lightness thereby kick starting stuff. Multiple personalities can be envisioned from the posts so far, but there is no real leaning towards good or evil. As one would expect a page in to a game. TLDR As of yet, nothing worth acting on outside of concert with more proof. TLDR for TLDR stuff is stuff I'm undecided on this post cause it strikes me as genuine for a guy who talks as much as gumshoe, but I dislike the fact that he seems to try so hard to just inflate the content by talking about everything even if he's undecided on it, or seems irrelevant, I'll put him at the scummy null side of things for now. On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote: I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote.  Super cocky post, on top of it for gums post that deserves it. Town lean for the fact that super here really wants to be acknowledged and sees the gumshoe vote as something that he should get credit for, not really the sort of cockiness I expect from mafia. It's a given super is not the D1 lynch. | ||
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After agreeing with super on gum for the slamtalk SL already strikes bridges to LS alignment in a way I find myself agreeing with. LS is being timid and for some reason thinks it's too early for voting and looks up something irrelevant on gumshoe. Reminder: This isn't IML , no reason to think any vote could be too early. Scumlean LS and townlean SL. | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:18 Damdred wrote: Here's the thing super, I care about you but I don't care about what you have done up to that point. Slam seems to care about something which I'm curious about. Besides that gum can you expand more on your post maybe? You say a few words that seem to call me null but fail to inquire about me or really do anything but ramble a long time and do nothing. So wow me or the storm will be your resting point today. And koshi won't complain in a palmar game lol. Kinda leaning town for this post cause of the first sentence. It has a bit to do with association, but it's the fact that it's a pretty dickish thing to say to someone I think is town. It's a weak read however, Damdy is far from a firm spot in the readbook. On March 24 2016 08:19 gumshoe wrote: beetlejuice On damdred, just went through most of his scum games, he never really goes looking for information this early on in said games / : in his town games he seems to actively hunt (when he manages to actually make it for day 1) skimmed about 8 games to come to this conclusion (five scum 3 town) Also theres a fair share of enthusiasm in his tone, something kinda hard to feign while actively fishing. From the lens of what little I know about him now, he probs town. The bolded is a bit suspicious to me cause it's like gummy is trying to tell us how much work he has done to reach his conclusion, which is something he would do to reach a favourable impression. There's also the possibility he wants to give it some sort of statistical reliability which is what he will claim when confronted with this but I believe it's not a townie thing to say, combined with his previous post. On March 24 2016 08:23 LightningStrike wrote: I here I forgot this game had started. I kinda dislike this post. He said Slam not acting liking like his normal semi troll trot yet said he never plays with him? Unless talking about pregame then how would he know how slam acts like? LS said it was too early for a vote on gum before even reading his first post? Not cool. | ||
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The point that an early vote on someone he claimed to be not liking bothers him still stands. On March 24 2016 08:52 Kurumi wrote: What was the meaning of this post? What the hell is "Won't lynch right now Mafia" - is there any case where you don't lynch a Mafia I am missing? Why do you need the "Confirmed" spoiler if the confirmation comes from the host through flips and the updated player list? Is the reason you made that list is that Mafia has a cheatsheet for shots? Nothing good can come from this. I highly dislike this type of lists, especially that you have not commented on what is going to happen with it. This post gave me so many rubs in such bad ways that I just can't let it go. a) The comment on Slam: Not only it's absolutely unnecessary, it ends with "Well, I shouldn't bring it up because it's bad" - so why bother? You know it is bad and you still do it. I mean, I guess you want people to focus on that for some reason, but I'd rather focus on you. Also, if Chezinu Rule is to be trusted, we may have another testament to this. b) Damdred's fishing. Not only I have not seen anything of that nature till that post, but also we are met with a statement that "fishing is to be expected of either side". Oh boy, no, not at all. Fishing for roles is not something you expect from either side. Fishing is Mafia's job. I highly dislike the attempt to paint it as ambiguous. I also do not understand why would you bring attention to any odd words in a person's post. If that's a crumb, you don't want Mafia to see it. Odd wording - go ahead, it might be a slip. But random, seemingly non-related words? No way. c) Read on Superbia. Another read straight outta fortune teller. Why would you, gumshoe, try to paint Superbia as suspicious? At the point of posting that, the only thing Superbia has said about himself was that "you should care about him", which pretty much goes contrary to your point about him not wanting anyone on his tail. d) You end your post saying that it is not really worth much, but you managed to paint Superbia scum, excuse Damdred non-existant fishing and point out that pointing out Slam's behaviour at this stage of the game does more harm than good. You note that people might be excited about something, that they look for something, but you seem not to look for anything. You created a mid-sized post detailing less than a page of a game for nothing, what you admit, but you would not have done that if it really was nothing, so what is your agenda behind that post? I like that Kurumi points this out as it bothered me as well, but for different reasons. Koshi's town meta isn't that he literally posts nothing as the game starts and he's present. I would have expected some sort of trademarkish "Koshi will play like this this game, Koshi is town", you probably know what I mean. When he talks of himself in third person and explains why he's playing differently, and if he isn''t he just shows some basic level of care. What I dislike is the in my opinion too pushy tone here, which you would expect from someone in a heated discussion, but really not from someone who just entered the game. I would expect someone like that to be in a neutral, bored or motivated mood , but not really something like this. Based on this post I will add Kurumi to my scumleans. I fully expect scum to distance from each other in ways like this, and I expect this to contribute to the pool of tells we can get from Koshi if he decides to reply to it. I'm keeping the caveat that Kurumi likes to put up acts of all sorts in mafia games. So not an early priority for me as opposed to gum and LS who in my opinion did more stuff I'd be willing to put my money on. On March 24 2016 08:36 Shapelog wrote: Sure. I do like reasons though so :C Superbia: slightly town Slam: Slightly town Damdred: Null Koshi:Nullz Gumshow: Null On March 24 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote: Nice way of saying null, without saying null. What did you find interesting in it btw? On March 24 2016 08:58 Shapelog wrote: Yes it does. Especially in your case since you are directly comparing the serious tone from Gumshow to this new "trollish" post. Unless this was a rhetorical question. I am bad at those. Why aren't you answering this clearly btw? Noticing the last post while working through the thread, I got curious about shapes read on superbia, which leaves me wondering why shape is so interested about asking these questions which are the sort of questions you like to ask to your scumreads (I'm talking about his question to superbia). I kinda had the feeling there was something to be found here but it's still all pretty consistent besides the suspicion towards super in the last post, but when I look at it closely I'd put shape at the town side of null for the purpose of finding the D1 lynch. On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote: People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it. I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe. When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up. What sticks out is that Kurumi here is pretty focused on LS opinion on the vote without really bothering about his alignment so far. Also the aggressive tone vanished, could be a hint to the aggressive tone being the result of having to doing the first dive into the thread as scum, cause entering the thread as mafia is pretty hard for most out of fear of sounding awkward. And Kurumi came back from a hiatus, so would be consistent with him being mafia. | ||
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I'll reply to stuff when I think I got most of the game covered, until then I prefer to play this in obs qt mode, it kinda makes my reads more accurate. | ||
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It will take me another day of facepalming at some posts (which is going to happen at night when I dream myself headbanging my keyboard) before spelling out all the wrong that has been happening since the gumshoe shot. The suspicion on Koshi Kurumu and LS remains unchanged but also unupdated in part. The tryhard mode will be back tomorrow, superbia is officially kicked out from my townreads into the something category (still no lyncherino on D1 tho). The gross picture is that a bunch of people base all their content around actions and roles which is something you never never should do as town, and do as much as possible as mafia cause it gives you an excuse for every read you need to have without having to think about making up something complex. Just pick the side you wanna be on and slam your fist onto the table yelling "this is how it is", and ready is the boshit cannon of shitty opinions everyone starts giving in reply. It has always been like this with dayvigs. Prplhz in personality 1,2 or something shooting Bugs impersonating Chezinu and I was sure he was mafia for the shot (ofc he was town), but no matter who was right the shitstorm was secured. Learn from your mistakes and just disregard anything that happens around actions as something alignment indicative. If anything consider anyone who takes advantage of it (like Koshi) to be particularly suspicious. Vivax news off. | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:55 Kurumi wrote: I have a feeling that Mafia is playing a Lurker city type of game so far. VA's post rubbed me totally the wrong way, given that he was in the thread and failed to make any contributions and now he declared he's afk till D2. He did not even vote.... Still don't like sicklucker (gut tells me so, he seems to be apathetic about the game) and Tubesock's gameplay so far has been iffy. I have a feeling you are mafia, this feels like one of the few games where I can say that I think VA is town cause he had the opportunity to talk about a lot of useless stuff that has been going on and he didn't, which I'm confident he would do as mafia. He pretty much only talked about what was important to him even though it would seem like it wasn't enough content and not ritokys plays or the shot on gum which are a great semi-usefulness generator for mafia. At the end of the day I might end up sheeping sandroba, dunno depends on me finding stuff that can actually get a mafia lynched. Kurumi Koshi seem like good places I will look at, and rsoultin cause my newly found townreads think shes mafia. | ||
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On March 25 2016 22:21 Kurumi wrote: All that is in VA's filter is that he will be voting for rso and that he did not read much of the thread. He brought nothing of substance concerning rso, he said his vote would be be "half policy, half read". So no, he wasn't useful, he did not talk only about things important to him - his entire filter is just fluff like "oh man blues be blues everytime I play a game". He actively avoided talking about anything at all in any way and you believe that's better than talking? Bogus Vivax, bogus. Why do you want to sheep sandroba? Why are you already agreeing that rso is a good lynch prior to having your own opinion? The only good thing from this post of yours is the mention of Koshi @Koshi get into the thread and post normally or I am going to arrange us a lovely rendez-vous. That's why I TR VA, cause of the lack of feigned usefulness he is capable of delivering when he has plenty of opportunities in this game to display it, which as I remember he prefers to do when he's scum. Sandro is a sheep cause he's likely town and not bad at the game. If he thinks rso is mafia along with my other TR VA I'm willing to sheep it already. If I had my own reasons it wouldn't be sheeping. | ||
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On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote: okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol >< really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing ##vote kurumi This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you. I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game. | ||
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Why can he be mafia? He has this sort of super serious tone. All his posts are super austerity mode and lack fantasy and fun. My entrance was also super austerity and as a consequence I ended up paying attention to little things too much probably. Some of these little things might not have been bad but with gumshoe I needed the big picture, which I admittedly didn't bother to get while we had much time. Not a reason for him to be mafia but definitely a reason for him not to be townread. | ||
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All his posts are super austerity mode and lack fantasy and fun. My entrance was also super austerity and as a consequence I ended up paying attention to little things too much probably. Some of these little things might not have been bad but with gumshoe I needed the big picture, which I admittedly didn't bother to get while we had much time. I forgot to add something here, since I wanted to finish my line of thought: I ended up maybe putting too much fantasy into stuff when going into the game super serious, which is why I noticed the lack thereof in tubesock. Could be cause we are different, could be cause putting too much weight into stuff is a townie trait, which is why I put weight into this. With this you might see the point of mentioning it. While I tend to read a lot into things tube just summarizes and goes for a lot of different angles without really finding one that's particularly interesting for him. | ||
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