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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 14:48 GMT
#1973
On February 03 2016 23:43 nooniansoong wrote:
shape can u list what scumteam you think is most likely?
purely for my own curiosity To see if i am on it

Find turn down my physiological help so i can't proife you.
Tumble, and either you (you really seem to be hard defending him and trying to push for a another lynch) or PMT (shes a bit sus. right now and has not mention ikido really at all. Did with Tumble.)

A course if Scott flips mafia, or if tumble flips green (which he won't). Then you are prob. right.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 14:48 GMT
#1974
I might just listed you just to piss you off.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 14:50 GMT
#1975
Tbh really a scott lynch or a tumble lynch is good for today. I rather it be tumble since he is mafia, and we won't be in LYLO. but whatever.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 15:29 GMT
#1978
Damm you Kush.... Now i am fearing that i am being a mafia advocate this game like my last 2 games. And your mafia team is voting with me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 15:38 GMT
#1979
Srsy, Damm you kush. Now i going into tinfoil mode saying Scott avoid talking about it in his VCA on purpose because they are scum.

Fuck your mind games Kush.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:34 GMT
#1998
On February 04 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
lol tumblewood could save himself but he's probably not going to.
that's so townie.

Lol Kush. I do not even think he is here.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:39 GMT
#2005
On February 04 2016 03:36 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 03:34 scott31337 wrote:
On February 01 2016 14:24 Eden1892 wrote:
I might be going too deep with some of these names, but the scumteam almost certainly must come from this pool.

Tumblewood
nooniansoong
PepperMintTea


Of the living players, I've already explained why I believe Trfel, Mex, Shapelog, and Jesus are all town. Of course, darth is confirmed town, and I am town too.

That leaves the above pile, and quite honestly? I like it a lot.

In fact, I'm gonna go way deep.

I think it's kush and Tumblewood.

I can't explain why all that well. But I'm gonna give ya what I got.

First Tumblewood. Trfel is right. Iki's read on Tumblewood is really weird. Trfel already explained this, but Iki left himself a ton of wiggle room for reading Tumblewood as town or mafia.
But then notice how he addresses Trfel in that same post:
Trfel
Scum read, has a whole lot of posts just asking questions without contributing any information, a whole lot of words with not much to say.
Jumped on the voting for tumbleweed bandwagon simply because it's embarrassing the newbies caught tumble, and not Trfel himself? (Am I missing something here?)
My biggest reason for thinking Trfel is scum is #607 where he says he's trying very hard not to direct the thread, then proceeds to direct the hell out of the thread dissecting tumbleweed's filter, this results in tumbleweed being the current lynch target.
Maybe this is a sick town play and we're going to get rid of mafia on the first night, but I think, judging from his experience, Trfel is an experienced mafia player, and is scum trying to get a townie lynched on day 1.

Isn't the certainty of this read really strange given his ambivalence about Tumblewood? Like he is sure Trfel is mafia. At least relative to his other reads, this is as close to a definite statement we're gonna get from Iki on anybody. And the bulk of his reason why has to do with Trfel pushing Tumblewood.

But... if Iki himself is so unsure about Tumblewood's alignment, why is Trfel so clearly suspicious for pushing Tumblewood? Clearly, you would think, Iki has reservations about Tumblewood from reading Iki's posts. You would expect Iki to at least be somewhat okay with the idea that Tumblewood is mafia, and thus to be somewhat okay with Trfel pushing that idea.

I think Iki was trying to help Tumblewood out by going after Trfel, but also tried to cover his tracks and not leave too obvious an association between them. For the new players, this is called a chainsaw defense -- where you alleviate pressure on a teammate by attacking his attacker, and put the attacker on the backpedal, in order to drive the spotlight away from your teammate.

And guess who else was in on this "push Trfel for his Tumblewood read" action?

kush.

kush is where I'm going way deep on this. But I got a few circumstantial reasons, an associative read, and a goddamn DREAM.

1. kush has been very adamantly defending me from the players scumreading me. There's something weird about it.
In the first place... I don't think he should have been so sure! I can't even believe I'm using this argument, but I would concede that I haven't been as obviously town as I normally would be. I believe I've satisfactorily explained why this is the case, but that doesn't matter. kush didn't know all that. He still was sure I was town.
The second thing is that I didn't really need it! I can defend myself, he knows it and knows I know it. I was never a serious lynch prospect, despite what Mex and Shapelog would want to believe. (Sorry amigos.)
He gave great reasons for me being town. Reasons he could easily give as town. But the timing is what's so weird. I didn't need it... so it wasn't actually contributing all that much.
It gets weirder when you consider a great deal of that effort in defending me was made to Trfel, as he was scumreading Trfel. Like why would you bother? You think Trfel is mafia so you would then believe he doesn't actually believe his read on me. So why go to the effort of arguing with him about me? Makes no sense from townie POV.
But it does make sense from scum POV, because it looks like a relevant topic for discussion, and you think you can get Trfel to say something shady if you keep talking about my alignment and eventually I flip town.

2. kush has been attacking Trfel very doggedly about this Tumblewood read. The timing on that has also been consistent with the notion of a chainsaw defense. You have to believe Tumblewood is mafia already for this to work, but it makes sense based on what's already been discussed. Frankly, I've felt his attack has been too stringent. It feels just a little bit beyond reasonable townie aggression to me. I don't really know how to explain this right, but I am pretty sure I am reading this correctly. I think kush was defending his partner Tumblewood, and by taking the mindset that Tumblewood must be in the right and Trfel must be in the wrong, kush went beyond the reasonable limits of townie interrogation and argumentation on Tumblewood's alignment. kush just seems too sure about Trfel being wrong about Tumblewood for my tastes.

3. As noted before, I believe Iki left one of his partners in the null/watch list, and one in the list of players he didn't discuss. If you accept my narrowing down the pool at the beginning of this post, and you also accept my premise about where Iki put his partners, then you know kush is, by process of elimination, the other partner.

I'll concede that neither of these cases are ironclad, but I really really believe in them right now. I may go back and do further digging to see if I still believe them, or if I were incorrect. But I think this is a really good direction to go in and I would encourage people to join me on it.

Scumteam is Tumblewood and nooniansoong.


I'm pretty confident this is why Eden is dead and not conftown Darthfoley.

I may regret this, but I'll regret more that Eden was right and didn't follow his ways.

I'm HARD claiming Veteran.

So that throws out mafia attempting to roleblock the doc - the setup is vig/vet.
So Kush is probably bullshitting about being roleblocked and is mafia - probably with Tumblewood who he keeps defending like a boss.


ok let's get a counterclaim please.

It was at this moment, did the Kush realized. That maybe he is wrong and Tumble is actually Mafia.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:40 GMT
#2007
Tis this moment too, did the little Kush realized. That there will be no CC coming on today, if there was even to be one.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:41 GMT
#2010
On February 04 2016 03:39 nooniansoong wrote:
ma, pmt, shape...one of you has to be a blue.

Nope.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:43 GMT
#2013
Kush's reaction is amazing btw
Now lets lynch scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:52 GMT
#2019
So kush im i still tunneling a townie? Or will you accept the fact that Tumble (which might be your scum mate) is mafia and is going to get lynched.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 18:58 GMT
#2023
Last scum is prob. bewteem PMT or Kush. (unless on the very very off chance that Tumble is town)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:30 GMT
#2026
On February 04 2016 04:28 nooniansoong wrote:
nah pmt or MA are blue.

I wish Trofl would rofl claimed Vet. Just for you.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:32 GMT
#2031
On February 04 2016 04:31 Trfel wrote:
Okay, fine. I'm the veteran.

Wait for real or rofling?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:33 GMT
#2036
On February 04 2016 04:32 PepperMintTea wrote:
##unvote

##vote scott31337

ROFL hahaha. Wow ok Wow, you are just so special aren't you?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:35 GMT
#2041
On February 04 2016 04:34 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:33 Shapelog wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:32 PepperMintTea wrote:
##unvote

##vote scott31337

ROFL hahaha. Wow ok Wow, you are just so special aren't you?


that's really rude

Sorry did not mean to be rude. Just it is funny how quickly you changed your vote.

Sorry did not mean to be rude
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:37 GMT
#2046
On February 04 2016 04:36 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:35 Shapelog wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:34 PepperMintTea wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:33 Shapelog wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:32 PepperMintTea wrote:
##unvote

##vote scott31337

ROFL hahaha. Wow ok Wow, you are just so special aren't you?


that's really rude

Sorry did not mean to be rude. Just it is funny how quickly you changed your vote.

Sorry did not mean to be rude


i acknowledge your apology but it doesn't make it ok what you did

Yeah sorry that was uncalled for.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:38 GMT
#2047
On February 04 2016 04:37 Trfel wrote:
Policy lynch Shapelog for being rude?

If you are going to give me my First Mislynch then you are doing it in the worse way possible to my soul.

Sure go ahead.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 19:52 GMT
#2055
You know jesus's cocky behavior and scott claim all makes sense.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 03 2016 20:41 GMT
#2057
not really a whole lot to discuss till after the flip.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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