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No, your argument on Alot doesn't make any sense.
Your argument on Alot is basically that he is scum because his reads post is worded improperly and the reads are based on shit reasons. But at the same time you think that Alot leaves his vote on Trfel (who you scumread), calls me town (who you townread) and doesn't wanna vote for Holyflare (who you townread).
Geez geript, there were three reads, all of which you agree with. Then you back up your argument with "Alot can't do anything because rayn, Palmar, HF and geript have "decided" already in which way the lynch goes". I could agree with this except at the same time you don't even fucking know if the dude knows anyone in this game except for me. So that doesn't make any sense to think that Alot knows we are (aside from me) strong minded players anyways. And in your scenario here, you think that Alot doesn't want to vote for town!Holyflare instead of scum!Trfel because of what????? Why the fuck wouldn't he vote for town!Holyflare instead of scum!Trfel if he is mafia? He could just go "wow let's sheep rayn here" and noone could blame him for that.
So yeah, the whole thing you claim Alot is scum for is based on very very sketchy reasons geript, it's like bullshit because you cannot think these all things at the same time and invent a motivation for Alot -- a motivation that would in your opinion be "the most likely play from mafia!Alot", especially when you claim you don't know what the dude is/isn't capable of posting and if he would bus or not, because the basic assumption SHOULD be that mafia people want to vote for town people over other mafia people if they can.
So yeah, your case and your thought process is literally bullshit and i am quite sure you are mafia for it.
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Cephiro your case hinges on Alot thinking Holyflare is a better lynch than Trfel that has never been the case.
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On January 17 2016 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Why does rayn keep dodging me?
Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you.
I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself.
I just don't care.
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On January 17 2016 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
My first 2 posts were not lies.
then why are you in the game?
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DO YOU HOLYFLARE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE SAYING YOU DID WANT TO QUIT FROM THE GAME AND CONTINUED USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO "MAKE READS" INSTEAD OF SAYING "NO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT, I WILL PLAY". THIS RESULTED IN HALF OF THE PEOPLE NOT GIVING ANY SHITS ABOUT THIS GAME, THIS RESULTED IN TWO PEOPLE FROM THE OBS QT TO POST IN A THREAD THEY SHOULDN'T. THIS RESULTED IN THE HOST CLARIFYING YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY IN INTENT OF QUITTING THE GAME.
YES, I DON'T EVEN FUCKING THINK YOU ARE MAFIA BUT YOU DESERVE TO DIE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET MODKILLED.
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and that is why i couldn't fucking care less and i am defaulting my vote on you until one of us is dead.
because the game is bullshit as long as you are alive in the game.
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+ you could still be mafia.
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Everyone who is town on Palmar you guys are lynching a townie right now.
##unvote
##vote trfel
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Cephiro if yo uare town please vote for Trfel. He is scum.
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On January 15 2016 22:37 Palmar wrote:btw, trfel is mafia and the reason is this: Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Meh, here goes nothing. AlotSomuch is townOn January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation. ritoky is mafiaRitoky's play doesn't make much sense from a town perspective. He seems to be very disinterested in the game, instead of enjoying it, while implying that he's a bit involved. He's very willing to engage in banter, and answers questions about the game, but he doesn't do anything at all to further the game. + Show Spoiler [examples] +On January 15 2016 09:18 ritoky wrote:
a former oregon coach is now the coach of the dumpster fire 49ers; finally i can consolihate. great day. He completely ignored all of the thread at the time. I would have expected him as town to directly address Damdred. On January 15 2016 09:59 Damdred wrote:
People having 0 respect for a game going on basically. Hf will swap but if you aren't oh the players list just not right.
Anyway rit what do you think of say hf? More than likely town? On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him. On January 15 2016 11:02 ritoky wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encountered yesterday.
This is a story about a man and his pride.
Pride in this sense is being used for its negative meaning. Commonly pride can be used to refer to a sense of satisfaction or attachment to something, but not in this case. Rather we are using it in the sense of an inflated sense of self.
The serious thing about pride is that it can cause someone to make irrational decisions or decisions that have much larger consequences out of a misplaced sense of the situation.
This is where yesterday falls flat. As Aristotle taught us, pride can be both a virtue and a vice. As such marv rolled an alignment that he felt uncomfortable playing as, and rather than acquiesce to the powers at be he stood up for what he believed was right and what he had pride for: his town play. He refused to be forced to bend to the whims of an RNG machine for the amusement of others.
The hosts punished marv for being virtuous.
#FreeMarv On January 15 2016 11:04 ritoky wrote:
Fellow believers, support me in:
The Free Virtuous Marv Petition:
1. ritoky
If you too feel that men and women should not be punished for being virtuous reach out to me for support. Mocking Holyflare doesn't do anything to move the game forward, and isn't really funny, either. Ritoky doesn't try to actually get involved or talk to anyone. The clincher is this post: On January 15 2016 09:57 ritoky wrote:
wat the fuck is going on? Which indicates a surprise of the state of the game. Ritoky doesn't seem to be enjoying the game, as his posts feel very uninspired and flat. Yet he doesn't do anything to further the game. This post: On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him. suggests that ritoky is thinking about reads this game, but doesn't follow Damdred's lead to get the game started at all. ##vote ritoky There is literally no way that someone believes he found mafia, but is still so unexcited about it that he puts some random shitty townread first in the post. It's so unenthusiastic that I could cry
On January 17 2016 08:29 Trfel wrote:
About half of my reasons to scumread ritoky were fluff,
you should probably think about lynching this guy next.
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And now i actually think Holyflare is mafia btw.
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I suggest that the vigilante shoots me.
I will make sure i will explain in full detail why both Trfel and Holyflare are scum before the night ends and i will also find the third scum. It's probably geript but some of the votes are so fucking terrible i am not sure. Then you can actually trust my reads. This is not WIFOM.
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Hmm let's do it this way:
I am either:
Vigilante and i will shoot Trfel/Holyflare.
If i am not Vigilante i am mafia in which case, if you are a vigilante, you should shoot me.
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now afk for reals for 23 hours.
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On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.
This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.
Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.
The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.
This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.
The hosts have raped me.
So Holyflare has been bitching about the days not aligning with him in comparison to the first game.
In the first game he had a total of 3 posts in the first 16 hours in the game.
In this game he has ~100 posts in 3 days, it makes it ~16.666posts EVERY 12 hours.
"Days not aligning".. ? 
So Holyflare is just bitching for no reason --> it makes people not wanna play (which is proven alrady). Now he is bitching about people not wanting to play? heh.... well make your own conclusions but the red quoted part is (1) a lie, and (2) a scummy lie.
On January 15 2016 16:52 Holyflare wrote:
Well initially I was annoyed and then I didn't like that ritoky and damdred didn't respond to anything meaningfully or even post responses and so I wanted to vote damdred for not even engaging me = mafia.
But then trfel came and posted that post which was ridiculous.
##vote trfel
And I would absolutely write everything i wrote as mafia so anyone even thinking it makes me an alignment is dumb or mafia (trfel).
See here. Read the green and the red part very carefully:
- People not engaging me for non-alingment indicative stuff is scummy.
- People engaging me for non-alignment indicative stuff is also scummy.
HOORAY! EVERY ANSWER POSSIBLE IS SCUMMY! Fuck i would do this every time if that worked that way!
More things:
- Holyflare will never lynch Palmar in this game as town. Never ever. People can be dumb but there was absolutely no reason to lynch Palmar. Never. I am not going to explain this further, but that is something Holyflare will NEVER EVER DO AS TOWN. NEVER!!!!!
- Holyflare has literally zero scumreads come N1. well Alot and me, but they aren't really scumreads if you read his posts on N1. They aren't. Alot is "no longer sure if he is scum but he might be but he might be not idc to check his towngames let's see" and i am "too bad to be in this game" (this is not a scumread people -- it's a policy read). Literally zero scumreads 71 hours into the game!
- His case on Alot is bullshit that is just misrepresenting what Alot has said, Alot has NEVER IN THIS GAME TOWNREAD TRFEL!!!!!
Easily mafia.
Trfel is scum too.
- Lynches Palmar for making correct conclusions!!!! yes he literally did since he himself said his ritoky case is bullshit (which is another reason he is scum) and he scummed HF who Palmar also scummed (that's not a reason to scumread him). Literally he voted Palmar for only making good posts.
- He also made a bullshit case on ritoky -- yes, he himself claimed so!!! And wasted a shitton of time wanting to discuss his case. There is literally zero town motivation to do that.
- His town case on Alot at the start of the game is bullshit, as i have already pointed out.
Easily mafia.
PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT BE FUCKING RETARDS. THESE TWO GUYS ARE SCUM!!!
Lynch both with fire, also see how their scumreads on each other magically disappear for no real reason.
Noone should think these two guys are not mafia together.
Third scum is prolly geript. His D1 is bad as fuck. He's prolly on Trfel ready to swap if needed. He never pushes the lynch, and wants to lynch Alot instead. That is not town!geript. Town geript CARES ABOUT WHO HE WANTS TO LYNCH AND TRIES TO YELL IT TO PEOPLE!!!! On N1 he says he is going to "catch up" and ends up posting nothing after. No town motivation --> straight out lie.
Probably scum.
Another candidates are VE and DYH.
VE bitches about people sheeping him on HIS lynch and "possibly scumreading them". VE c'mon?!?!?! srsly? You convinced people to lynch someone and when they did you are gonna scumread them for it? Also you should know Palmar better. You really should.
DYH is just doing nothing.
Alot is not mafia. His filter is clear and easily explained. Everything in his filter is easily explained. You guys are prolly dumb enough to lynch him, but please don't, he is not scum.
Cephiro is another mislynch scum are gonna push. Because he focuses on only one thing. Plz Cephiro, take more stances and discuss other things too -- not only the thing you wanna push. Also you are wrong on Alot.
NM is never mafia. ritoky is not mafia. Ace is town too. Idk if i forgot someone but they are town too.
bye.
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