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On January 19 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
I better vote at least. Lynch mderg after I flip town, someone do vca, you really think it was scum vs scum on the last day?
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Why don't you do VCA?
Be like Tubesock, you don't even have a redcheck against you. If you convince me then I'll stump for you and we'll lynch somebody else.
Right now you're being like noon, which is ok I guess if you're mafia, but pretty clearly incorrect for you regardless of alignment.
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On January 19 2016 08:03 mderg wrote:
Eden, why the ninja vote?
Try to stay focused for me, please.
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I actually liked everything mderg said. At least he is fucking doing something.
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Why would he be mafia and interpret Kush his filter like that? give 3 names and then autoremove one. Doesn't scum need 3 more ml?
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6 vs 1
5 vs 1 ml
4 vs 1 shot
3 vs 1 ml
2 vs 1 shot into lylo and only win if another ml.
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I am not sure if scott is mafia here though.
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Vote Count
scott31337 (3):, GGTeMpLaR, mderg, darthfoley
Mderg (2): Eden1892, scott31337
darthfoley (2): VayneAuthority, Koshi
Currently, scott31337 is being lynched. You have until Tuesday, Jan 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.
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On January 19 2016 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I actually liked everything mderg said. At least he is fucking doing something.
It felt really phoned in, and the copied phrasing from Vayne set off alarm bells. I'd like him to explain a little better.
I somehow start to think it isn't scott either although it's hard to know whether that sentiment is just me being tired of the inertia or not.
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Reading everything. This guy did some serious questionable stuff.
I suggest other people read his filter and see what I see.
A couple things to pay attention to:
1) Strange how he analyses my initial scumread on Kush. Not sure what to make of it. Help me? I only love how that initial read had some merit in it. lol. Kush was a bit too hardtry in those first posts. + Show Spoiler +On January 09 2016 15:51 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 15:43 slOosh wrote:On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Nooniansoong
I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia. You don't think the way that he exited thread is weird? He spends a good chunk of posts swaying rayn's town read of me, and when rayn comes around he leaves with this? Agreed. I think Noon has only posted once, so throwing his name out there with "reasons I can't promise I will remember" seems like a random bone to throw out early on-- unless the reason is inactivity. Maybe there's some meta history I'm not aware of?
2) ez jump on me, pretty ambious scumread. + Show Spoiler +On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote:
I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town.
##Vote: Koshi
3) Buddy attempt + Show Spoiler +On January 09 2016 16:58 darthfoley wrote:
I like this Eden fellow, so crisply formatted
4) get's cornered by Eden. Uses the "I R noob" card + Show Spoiler +On January 09 2016 17:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 17:20 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2016 16:51 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote:
I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town.
##Vote: Koshi What is unhelpful about Koshi's posts in your own words? As they seem less helpful the more you look at them, I expect that you will be able to explain this pretty easily for this potato townie questioning you. Well, originally I thought that the conversation's direction regarding sloosh was pretty productive. It got him talking, and also gave out a decent amount of info to sift through, which you've courteously done. Out of all the active players so far, I think rayne has been the most town; his posts are well thought out and his questions are inquisitive. So, I looked at Koshi closer because he was one of the adamant Sloosh scum posters next to rayne. For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? I'm unclear on Sloosh, because some of his questioning lacks a clear direction and looks kind of filler. I think Giygas is town as of now. Your point on his intuitive search for more info at the start of the game re game setup is an angle I hadn't thought of. A counterquestion. Why should Koshi be reluctant to back off? Just because he said he wouldn't lynch active players? Most pushes this early in day 1 don't lead to lynching the people being pushed. I would even go as far as to say that if your early pushes are engineered to lynch people, you're doing it wrong. The point of putting other players' feet to the fire early is to force them to make substantive statements about the game state. This is helpful regardless of whether the player is town or mafia, active or inactive, yada yada. I agree it's a bit bizarre that he pivoted over to noonian and doesn't post anything. Not leaving any reasons for it is, indeed unhelpful. But you said this: I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town. This sounds to me more like an indictment of his entire posting history, not just his admittedly bordering-on-useless "vote/push" post. You're not telling me that of all the posts Koshi has made this day, the whole body of work is unhelpful due to this one post at the end, are you? If you are, forgive me for finding it uncompelling. I think Koshi's been of at least moderate use in generating discussion. I think his pressure on slOosh was constructive, and I would certainly not call the body of work unhelpful. You're going to have to do better than just handwave the whole thing as unhelpful. Maybe cite something specific for me outside of the noonian vote? (Or if you have nothing else, then please elaborate as to why that invalidated the rest of his posting history this game.) Meh, i'm starting to see why there are newbie mafia games run lol. It was a bit too shallow to vote on Koshi given the circumstances. The more I think about it, the more I do see the utility of his grilling of Sloosh near the start. It's true that he doesn't have to back off a scum read, especially because as you said, lots of people get grilled day 1 and it doesn't necessarily mean it's aimed at a lynch. I was under the impression that Koshi actually scum reads Sloosh, although it's useful info either way. The more reflective I am of the Koshi v Sloosh dynamic, the more I realize that I can't let my frustration of being kind of clueless make me jump to hasty conclusions. At this point, I can't constructively add much until Koshi explains his Noon read imo.
5) this is an uninspiring post tbh. The scumread on VA is something not scummy. It's just a does not equal b kinda thing. I also don't like the "this is all I have" followed up with a setup question. It might be mafia just trying to be active? Getting coached "to do something" in the scum QT? And he is like "THIS IS WHAT I GOT GUIS"
+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2016 04:00 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 22:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2016 16:51 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote:
I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town.
##Vote: Koshi What is unhelpful about Koshi's posts in your own words? As they seem less helpful the more you look at them, I expect that you will be able to explain this pretty easily for this potato townie questioning you. Well, originally I thought that the conversation's direction regarding sloosh was pretty productive. It got him talking, and also gave out a decent amount of info to sift through, which you've courteously done. Out of all the active players so far, I think rayne has been the most town; his posts are well thought out and his questions are inquisitive. So, I looked at Koshi closer because he was one of the adamant Sloosh scum posters next to rayne. For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? I'm unclear on Sloosh, because some of his questioning lacks a clear direction and looks kind of filler. I think Giygas is town as of now. Your point on his intuitive search for more info at the start of the game re game setup is an angle I hadn't thought of. I feel like you contradict yourself in the two bold statements. You wonder why he won't back off Sloosh when he says he won't target active towns people. Then he backs off Sloosh to target inactive towns people. Yea I see what you're saying. It was contradictory, because he does end up following the outline that he posted early on. I'm rescinding my Koshi vote for now. I have spun myself in circles trying to read some of the active posters, so here's what I think on some of the less active people: VA- I filtered his posts and I found very little substance. + Show Spoiler +logic dictates that we are playing on setup 3, as that is the most common number chosen on a 4 way choice.
I am getting scum vibes already from Sloosh just gonna throw that out there
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work
He's struggling to create a filter
most likely mafia
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago First, he blindly comments on how logic tells us we're playing on setup 3, with no actual logic. Maybe this is a joke I missed or something? Then, he gets the ball rolling on Sloosh, tells everyone he's bad at Mafia, ties him to another player some people (e.g. me) don't know, and peaces out. He's generated pages of discussion on someone without having to contribute to it at all. This is pretty scummy to me mderg- You conveniently missed my follow up post re GGTemplar and how I misread what he wrote. I thought he was talking about toning down day 1 accusations, not early read defending in the late game. I don't have a read on mderg but I'm surprised you missed a post that doesn't follow the narrative of me being scum boxerfred- I like the way he has posted. He's analyzing/questioning peoples' judgments on the Koshi town read. He hasn't just given town reads or scum reads, he included both which is most helpful for the town. ##Unvote: Koshi
##Vote: VayneAuthorityThat's all I have for now On January 10 2016 04:57 darthfoley wrote:
/offtopic
Can someone explain how a Named VT works? It's a VT with no additional powers, so how is it any different from a VT?
Basically, what does the "named" do?
6) Maybe a bit too mych TMI on rayn? I am mafia because I am buddying rayn? Bit odd. Pretty sure he is inventing new reasons to scumread me that he didn't have before. Eden grills him --> darthfoley makes new excuses. + Show Spoiler +On January 10 2016 05:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:03 Eden1892 wrote:On January 10 2016 03:13 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2016 17:43 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2016 17:27 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 17:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
boo to yourself eden You do read what I say!  I am curious why you and slOosh seemed to just mutually drop your conversation about your divergent reads on GiygaS. Weren't you a little curious why slOosh could read the same thing you did and conclude the exact opposite thing about GiygaS's alignment? There is no reason for me to answer this before slOosh does. I will after that. I will just say that coming to opposite conclusion (which is btw pretty strong wording here -- since i literally stated my read is "tentative") and concluding that the other person makes sense are not mutually exclusive. They aren't exclusive, I just figured you might still be curious enough to ask. But you are right, I would much rather hear slOosh's answer on this first. On January 09 2016 17:29 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2016 17:20 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2016 16:51 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote:
I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town.
##Vote: Koshi What is unhelpful about Koshi's posts in your own words? As they seem less helpful the more you look at them, I expect that you will be able to explain this pretty easily for this potato townie questioning you. Well, originally I thought that the conversation's direction regarding sloosh was pretty productive. It got him talking, and also gave out a decent amount of info to sift through, which you've courteously done. Out of all the active players so far, I think rayne has been the most town; his posts are well thought out and his questions are inquisitive. So, I looked at Koshi closer because he was one of the adamant Sloosh scum posters next to rayne. For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? I'm unclear on Sloosh, because some of his questioning lacks a clear direction and looks kind of filler. I think Giygas is town as of now. Your point on his intuitive search for more info at the start of the game re game setup is an angle I hadn't thought of. A counterquestion. Why should Koshi be reluctant to back off? Just because he said he wouldn't lynch active players? Most pushes this early in day 1 don't lead to lynching the people being pushed. I would even go as far as to say that if your early pushes are engineered to lynch people, you're doing it wrong. The point of putting other players' feet to the fire early is to force them to make substantive statements about the game state. This is helpful regardless of whether the player is town or mafia, active or inactive, yada yada. I agree it's a bit bizarre that he pivoted over to noonian and doesn't post anything. Not leaving any reasons for it is, indeed unhelpful. But you said this: I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town. This sounds to me more like an indictment of his entire posting history, not just his admittedly bordering-on-useless "vote/push" post. You're not telling me that of all the posts Koshi has made this day, the whole body of work is unhelpful due to this one post at the end, are you? If you are, forgive me for finding it uncompelling. I think Koshi's been of at least moderate use in generating discussion. I think his pressure on slOosh was constructive, and I would certainly not call the body of work unhelpful. You're going to have to do better than just handwave the whole thing as unhelpful. Maybe cite something specific for me outside of the noonian vote? (Or if you have nothing else, then please elaborate as to why that invalidated the rest of his posting history this game.) Meh, i'm starting to see why there are newbie mafia games run lol. It was a bit too shallow to vote on Koshi given the circumstances. The more I think about it, the more I do see the utility of his grilling of Sloosh near the start. It's true that he doesn't have to back off a scum read, especially because as you said, lots of people get grilled day 1 and it doesn't necessarily mean it's aimed at a lynch. I was under the impression that Koshi actually scum reads Sloosh, although it's useful info either way. The more reflective I am of the Koshi v Sloosh dynamic, the more I realize that I can't let my frustration of being kind of clueless make me jump to hasty conclusions. At this point, I can't constructively add much until Koshi explains his Noon read imo. I don't understand what was shallow about voting Koshi there. If your takeaway from my questions was "you are wrong for voting Koshi," that takeaway isn't the one I intended to convey. The takeaway was "I don't understand why you are voting Koshi" -- and you're essentially telling me you don't have much to add to the discussion until Koshi explains his read. But... you still had a reason for saying that Koshi's posts were unhelpful. After all, unless you intend to tell me your statement that "The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town." was made up, something you read made you think this. I just want to know what that something is. The reasons I said that were because of the Noon vote, and because I thought he was really trying hard to sway rayne's townread on Sloosh in a way that seemed a bit suspicious. It wasn't that much to go on. Just woke up so i'll get up to date with the thread, but I wanted to make sure I responded to this Ok. So, you felt the Noonian vote and the attempt to sway ray's vote was suspicious. In what way(s) were they so? I don't care that you have decided Koshi isn't suspicious anymore, I just want to know why you felt he was so I may evaluate your alignment. Well if I were scum, I think it would make sense to get in the ear of someone who has basically been agreed to be town read, especially when he (rayne) has been leading a lot of the discussion. If you are being helpful to one of the "towniest town" people, you could be either helpful town or smart scum. I initially read it as a clever scum play. I've already explained why I found the Noonian vote suspicious: there was nothing concrete about it and seemed random because Noonian hadn't posted anything at that point. Also, thanks for the Named VT explanation
7) I already said this, but this is a bad post. Why would he be inactive town or scummy scum? Might be a joke. But it is just not a post looking for mafia? Dnu. just bad play if town. + Show Spoiler +On January 10 2016 08:28 darthfoley wrote:
Kmatt has one post so far, at the beginning of the game... inactive town or scummy scum?
8) VA made a good post about this vote. How it brought Tubesock in the lead against boxerfred. There wasn't much explenation except that he didn't like 1 post from Tubesock suddenly. I don't think this change had anything to do with what VA typed.+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2016 12:35 darthfoley wrote:
##Unvote: VayneAuthority
##Vote: Tubesock
9) TMI on Kush? Why Kush?
Also again bringing up the inactive dude out of nowhere. Why?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2016 16:42 darthfoley wrote:
This does not pertain specifically to the current GiygaS vs. Tubesock discussion, but I would like to hear Noonian's reads. Haven't heard much from him in the last 12 hours, and what he has posted has been pretty uninteresting.
Also earth to Kmatt??
10) Fuck. Apparently he is now voting for VA again. So the thing I said earlier was wrong. He still needs to swap back to Tubesock after this. I wonder if he will have a good reason to scumread Tubesock and not VA.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh
##Vote: VayneAuthority
I'll stop on 10. I am warming up for a darthfoley lynch as you can see. Maybe somebody can double check and I will continue later. But can't at work. Got E&Y visiting us and I can't access filters at work. So maybe I won't even do anything and just pray one of you reads his filter.
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All in all I think darthfoley his game has been a bit uninspiring. Not bold enough. Not enough dumb mistakes made due to being aggressive looking for mafia.
Obviously mderg/scott probably won't have those as well but they play a lot different than darthfoley. It looks like darthfoley could be really good but is hold back because of him being mafia?
Dnu.
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The biggest mistakes he made are his really fake scumreads. Which all boil down on things people do that are odd. But never really scummy. It's never clever.
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dibs on mad dosh credit if i got that right from the jump mon
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I had Kush right from start. But then decided to hard defend him.
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That being said. I only lynched a redcheck in between.
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Which was a scumread from dead townie and was opposing wagon in a 3 person scumlynch.
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On January 19 2016 09:13 Koshi wrote:
I had Kush right from start. But then decided to hard defend him.
thats me too if darth is mafia lol
idk i still kinda want to see scott flip first
i might sheep you sheeping me to victory though
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On January 11 2016 07:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Final Vote Count
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
Nooniansoong (2): Raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): Nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
Not voted (1): Kmatt
Currently, boxerfred is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.
On January 14 2016 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
Vote Count
Tubesock (8): Koshi, VayneAuthority, Nooniansoong, GGTeMpLaR, scott31337, mderg, darthfoley, GigyaS
Nooniansoong (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
Darthfoley (1): slOosh
Not voted (0):
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On January 17 2016 07:14 rsoultin wrote:
Vote Count
Nooniansoong (5): Koshi, Eden1892, GGTeMpLaR, scott31337, VayneAuthority
scott31337 (2): GigyaS, mderg
Not voted (2): Nooniansoong, darthfoley
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So this is where we are at now.
Now If I add what I think - Koshi town, GG town, and I'm town - we get -
+ Show Spoiler [Thoughts] +On January 11 2016 07:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Final Vote Count boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, KoshiTubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 Nooniansoong (2): Raynpelikoneet, mderg VayneAuthority (1): NooniansoongslOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfredNot voted (1): Kmatt
Currently, boxerfred is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. On January 14 2016 06:36 rsoultin wrote:Vote Count Tubesock (8): Koshi, VayneAuthority, Nooniansoong, GGTeMpLaR, scott31337, mderg, darthfoley, GigyaS Nooniansoong (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 Darthfoley (1): slOoshNot voted (0):
Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Wednesday, Jan 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. On January 17 2016 07:14 rsoultin wrote:Vote Count Nooniansoong (5): Koshi, Eden1892, GGTeMpLaR, scott31337, VayneAuthority scott31337 (2): GigyaS, mderg Not voted (2): Nooniansoong, darthfoley
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I'll look over some more when I get some more time.
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I thought I was getting something, but all I actually got that's interesting is that you think GG is town. Why?
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