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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:25 GMT
#4649
On October 06 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's going to be shining/moosydoosy/gb


you think gb starts a second wagon on shining, even as a supposed "reaction test" when we're auto-lynching cool? if they're scum together, i mean?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:27 GMT
#4652
On October 06 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
So lets say coolt is about to flip town. scum knows this of course. theres 9 votes on coolt tref goes on about how coolt is obv town and trys to marty for him. As scum why do I go out of my way to stand out and vote trefel for stats ( so i can brag later) like i would just vote coolt with the other 9 people and try not to stand out and not pick a fight with the person that was right about coolt


ye but what's the point of voting for truffle over say moosy or gb? clearly you think cool is town if you think truffle has tmi? and the weirdest part here, sl, is you're saying the reason you were voting truffle is the same reason i should townread you? what made him scum in your eyes makes you town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:30 GMT
#4656
On October 06 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's going to be shining/moosydoosy/gb


you think gb starts a second wagon on shining, even as a supposed "reaction test" when we're auto-lynching cool? if they're scum together, i mean?


of course he can if the reaction test is fake. it distances them its not like anyone but coolt was ever getting lynched yesterday it was always going to happen. I think gb makes alot of sense to be with the shining. im not sure he makes sense to be with moosy tho. he was asking some strange qeustions on the cc


in hindsight, sure, but how does he know that beforehand?

i dunnae maybe i'm giving people way too much credit, that they'd do things that would actually progress their wincon as scum rather than detract from it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:30 GMT
#4658
On October 06 2015 07:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
So lets say coolt is about to flip town. scum knows this of course. theres 9 votes on coolt tref goes on about how coolt is obv town and trys to marty for him. As scum why do I go out of my way to stand out and vote trefel for stats ( so i can brag later) like i would just vote coolt with the other 9 people and try not to stand out and not pick a fight with the person that was right about coolt


ye but what's the point of voting for truffle over say moosy or gb? clearly you think cool is town if you think truffle has tmi? and the weirdest part here, sl, is you're saying the reason you were voting truffle is the same reason i should townread you? what made him scum in your eyes makes you town?


i thought they were together. you dont even know my reads how can you think im scum?


if you thought truffle and cool were together why aren't you voting cool?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:33 GMT
#4661
On October 06 2015 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 07:29 sicklucker wrote:
On October 06 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
So lets say coolt is about to flip town. scum knows this of course. theres 9 votes on coolt tref goes on about how coolt is obv town and trys to marty for him. As scum why do I go out of my way to stand out and vote trefel for stats ( so i can brag later) like i would just vote coolt with the other 9 people and try not to stand out and not pick a fight with the person that was right about coolt


ye but what's the point of voting for truffle over say moosy or gb? clearly you think cool is town if you think truffle has tmi? and the weirdest part here, sl, is you're saying the reason you were voting truffle is the same reason i should townread you? what made him scum in your eyes makes you town?


i thought they were together. you dont even know my reads how can you think im scum?


if you thought truffle and cool were together why aren't you voting cool?


for the bragging rights postgame duh


voting one scum over another is bragging rights, huh? @.@ you could actually believe this i guess but it does look pretty odd you're sitting off on an isolated wagon when town is getting lynched
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:35 GMT
#4665
On October 06 2015 07:34 sicklucker wrote:
the point is being the soul vote on trefel is something I would only do as town for an i told you so moment later on if i scum read them both. I would never do that as mafia because it makes you stand out


mmm i seem to remember you at least parking on your own on a vote before as scum when you were scum with lex but i could be misremembering

i know i've been fine with doing that solely because you can always make arguments like this, wifom

the fact of the matter is your vote did a whole lot of nothing and you knew it would do a whole lot of nothing, and that's not something that town players usually do
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:39 GMT
#4667
On October 06 2015 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
furthermore, rsoultin, is he lynching shining now?


true, he's not

@.@ though that doesn't help me in figuring out who to vote for, rayn

moosy may just be scum but the problem is i could see him being town here. i really could. it would make sense with the balance to have a full roleblocker...maybe even both?...but i don't see just a 1-shot rb with a 1-shot tracker and a cop...when scum has an added strongarm mechanic. that's nerfed town roles + beefed scumroles. from a balance perspective it's unlikely
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:43 GMT
#4672
like pure balance i think moosy, and i also think the early claim looks like moosy. it's even the right play really to claim early in lylo so we can eliminate a blue role, which rels didn't do

but then yeah moosy thinking rels could still be town does seem odd, but not really that scummy?

i could see rels waiting for the claim and the reactions though and like his confidence was pretty high, and i didn't see anything in his reaction to moosy's claim that set off alarm bells...him being so sure moosy's claim was fake also is a point in his favor for being actually blue

i just don't know -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:44 GMT
#4674
On October 06 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
like pure balance i think moosy, and i also think the early claim looks like moosy. it's even the right play really to claim early in lylo so we can eliminate a blue role, which rels didn't do

but then yeah moosy thinking rels could still be town does seem odd, but not really that scummy?

i could see rels waiting for the claim and the reactions though and like his confidence was pretty high, and i didn't see anything in his reaction to moosy's claim that set off alarm bells...him being so sure moosy's claim was fake also is a point in his favor for being actually blue

i just don't know -_-


blue claim n2 is what i'm referring to here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:46 GMT
#4676
On October 06 2015 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whatever, i go back to not caring.


please don't cause i'm barely scraping it together as it is and you and ls are my only sure townreads right now -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#4679
...

yeah i'm leaving i tried -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 23:46 GMT
#4729
eh i've simply decided that i'm not lynching moosy

mostly on setup (yeah i'm gonna stick with the logical shit) and somewhat on how he handled the role and a little more on the dumbtelling where he still hasn't seemed to figure out that a roleblocker can block kp...like he'd have to be deliberately dumbtelling if he's mafia cause i'm sure someone on the team would know how a roleblocker works and that their kp is blockable @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 23:50 GMT
#4731
anyone who thinks that we have two nerfed 1-shot blue roles against a scumteam with at least a roleblocker + strongman + miller

is not really that familiar with balance or is just not thinking it through? rels and moosy may both be town, but if there's only one it's going to be the full roleblocker every time
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 23:51 GMT
#4733
On October 06 2015 08:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i’d like to reference people to my last scum game where i purposely relied on defeatist tactics to get everyone to not want to lynch me. :D i think it was n3 or something like that…?


moosy help find scum -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:00 GMT
#4740
gb is making me want to townread him again :/ maybe because he's the only one who i feel is actually reading what i'm writing and listening

which if he's scum just means i'm very wrong lol >< but whatever

i will lynch shining over moosy...i could be wrong on him and i think the setup suggests at least a full roleblocker

i still think sicklucker may be the best lynch, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:06 GMT
#4744
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#4745
like legitimately i could be wrong in my setup analysis but i kinda feel like if i am it's a bastard game (sorry hts!, if that's true) anyway. so i'm going with the notion that the game is balanced properly
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:10 GMT
#4748
On October 06 2015 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 09:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia


To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.

I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.


tbh gb this will be my last game...and if people honestly think i can play this way as scum then it needs to be my last game. but do what you need to
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:11 GMT
#4749
On October 06 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:
But if Rels is really a 1 shot roleblocker you are wrong with someone else since I'm town.

I'm gonna sleep now


well, of the two claims his is the least credible. i just don't want to rule out the possibility that he's town based on "there can't be two town roleblockers" after what happened with the cop and tracker
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 11:14 GMT
#4772
...you didn't react at all to GB's RB claim, given a ctrl+f through your filter

(i could be wrong, so just quote if i am, cause that's an imperfect method but i don't have time for a more thorough one this morning)

why?

md had a pretty strong scumread on him. also given the exact timing of the post you keep quoting, i can easily see him overlooking the rescind so eh

like i admit your case was convincing enough for me to skim back through moosy's and gb's posts n1

also the shining reasoning is flawed. that he's completely absent does make him more prone to being bussed, but if he were town you don't think they'd push that as an easy ml as well? like sure he could be mafia but it's not because everyone wants to lynch an afk player
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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