On October 06 2015 09:00 rsoultin wrote: gb is making me want to townread him again :/ maybe because he's the only one who i feel is actually reading what i'm writing and listening
which if he's scum just means i'm very wrong lol >< but whatever
i will lynch shining over moosy...i could be wrong on him and i think the setup suggests at least a full roleblocker
i still think sicklucker may be the best lynch, though
Well, I finally got the time to play with a little more focus, but I couldn't keep up too much with the game, which makes me be very unsure about things.
I don't know about sicklucker? I found very weird that he doesn't believe both claims are real, find weird that Moosy didn't automatically read Rels as Mafia but draws NO conclusion on which one is Mafia. That's really bad
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote: The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not
LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off
Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?
i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between
rels, gb, shining, sl
and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@
ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia
To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.
I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote: The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not
LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off
Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?
i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between
rels, gb, shining, sl
and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@
ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia
To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.
I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.
tbh gb this will be my last game...and if people honestly think i can play this way as scum then it needs to be my last game. but do what you need to
Unnecessary.
You CAN play like this as scum.
The fact that you constantly reevaluated me, well... Makes you look more townie than scum.
Don't quit the game. People are just taking it too seriously... You guys need to relax and have some fun
Anyway, I'll admit you're town and if you aren't, well played.
On October 06 2015 17:33 Rels wrote: Plus, there is no way there are 2 roleblockers in the setup. That is not balanced, and everybody thinking that should think about the possible implications. 2 roleblockers means there is the possibility to confirm two people if one mafia is flipped. If on N1 or N2, one mafia is flipped and one roleblocker had to claim cause he was getting lynched or whatever. The two roleblockers uses their block on two targets then: - if one people dies, when the roleblocker claims his blocks, the other should do it too => PAM 4 confirmed townies - if none dies, of course the two roleblockers will claim, believing they blocked KP => PAM one mafia between two people confirmed
Hmm
But again, a cop and 2 crap 1 shot blues seems weak against a strong man and a Mafia roleblocker AND a Miller...
On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote: LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )=
I'll copy what I said earlier:
1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely
On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: he said his claim is not real on N1...
Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late.
This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline:
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote: Guys gb is are roleblocker
I'm not, I was just upset and made that up
Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread:
On October 02 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thoughts on EoD: The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together.
The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever.
i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well.
You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it.
This makes no sense at all.
Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum?
Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately.
Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation?
Someone isn't reading the thread.
He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
On October 02 2015 02:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process?
Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post
No, I don't really see what's wrong. You could have just killed scott during Night and buy town cred from coolTL.
So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim.
2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP
On October 06 2015 00:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: So does anyone want to give me some coaching advice on what the point of a town roleblocker is? I guess it's helpful against the Mafia framer? But then my reason for existing kind of died when Damdred claimed.
Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (=
And we can add: 3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia.
4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens.
1. He skips posts a lot of times. He could genuinely skipped my post
2. He may really not have read his role. I don't know what levels stupidity can reach
3. We don't know how many roles Mafia has. We already know Mafia has a roleblocker and a strongman AND a Miller was in the game. Two power roles and two lesser roles may be a possibility
4. See above
OK. I can't accept all of that, especially together. You need to reread exactly this part where you rescinded your claim. Moosy posted 2 minutes after; he continued reading the thread and answered a post from you that was made 20 minutes after the claim. Now imagine Moosy has already decided to roleblock after your claim. He should be paying extra attention to what you're saying. In fact, he does; the post he did 2 minutes after your claim was a reply to you; and the posts after also talks about you. There is NO way Moosy as roleblocker doesn't notice the rescind. And I'm not arguing it's weird he roleblocked you even after the rescind; that would be understandable. But he claimed he did not know you rescinded your claim to justify the roleblock on you. And, as demonstrated above, that is not possible.
Wow Rayn. You're either Mafia or really really bad.
Believing LS is Mafia in this game is completely plausible. I still don't fucking get his can you town read him just because he got angry with you. He has NO OTHER TOWN TRAIT. Not a single original push. Just agreeing with people and voting town.
For balancing purposes, 1 shot blues are counted as 0.5 So if you have a Strongman and a Mafia roleblocker, this will make a sum of 2 If you have a cop and a roleblocker, you have a sum of 2. This would be already balanced. But we had a Miller to counter cop. Having more 2 one shot blues would counter balance it. And we don't know all the Mafia roles.
And you guys didn't learn the lesson of NOT CONSIDERING THE SETUP when deciding lynches. Just lynch the scummiest.
"Sullivan's Cove French Oak Single Malt (Town Roleblocker)"
Whole name of the whisky. And he crumbed by just using the first letters of French and Oak.
"Sup everybody! Currently busy, so I'll have to catch up the rest of the thread later. Finally I can start playing again! Oh, and I've seen *some random bullshit*. Since I'm *random bullshit, maybe you guys *random bullshit. Maybe."
There. I've just made a much more reliable breadcrumb.
I'm not saying I believe Rels' claim is fake, I'm saying the breadcrumb is bad and you shouldn't use it to believe his claim IMO
I'm not going to argue anymore on how stupid any scum read on me can be.
I intentionally risked my credibility just to try to get reads. This may be dumb play and I am far from not agreeing it is, but this surely should show your braindead heads that I'm not Mafia simply because MAFIA HAS NO MOTIVATION TO RISK THEIR CREDIBILITY WHEN THEY CAN WIN THE GAME BY JUST SURVIVING.
And if you can't get this through your head by reading this simple statement, nothing will
Also, you guys keep saying "X can't be Mafia with Y". Give me a break. As Mafia would never bus someone. People even got the experience where Moosy double bussed and kept bussing cop cake since day1.
EPT
