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On September 30 2015 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:48 rsoultin wrote: and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum mmm like calling me and marv mafia? like.... oh you did that.
yeah i'm not sure on rayn...he's done stupid pushes on me before
but rels is mafia
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On September 30 2015 20:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:51 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:47 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:45 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:44 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:42 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:25 rsoultin wrote: truffle's weirdness with his pushes on me were clarified as our joke, which i thought they might be, plus he's putting in the effort again so i felt good about him Wait do you think these two posts are jokes too ? On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< OH YEAH that was my argument! Thank you for reminding me! Never mind, it's still somewhat valid. On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument  Wow, I'm really bad at this. they're clearly not lol and he admitted to as much? what's your point? WTF you just said Trfel's push on you was a joke I quoted two posts that are part of his push on you and you say they're not a joke ?? when he said i was still mafia and left was a joke, and when he started pushing on me was a joke, so the problem with the progression of his scumread on me is not a problem because only the parts you quoted were serious I agree, and that is this part of the read progression that doesn't make sense. Why would he go "Oh I forgot one reason to scumread you, here it is" he already explained that my later posts made it seem like i was going a different direction? better question is why you're pushing this "truffle's read progression on rsoul" thing so hard, from the very beginning of the game, yet the moment marv comes out with a case on me, you sheep it do you really think we could be scum together? you clearly are much more adamant about this point from early game on truffle that you've been harping on and filling most of your filter with than anything anyone has said about me. there's a truffle wagon and yet you're voting me lol this does not compute i think you're scum for it ^ note to all townies if marv's fit gets me lynched...rels is probably scum here for this...dropping the push on truffle to come after me when, rationally, i should be town in his eyes No, I don't think you can be scum together, hence why I dropped my vote to you. Your read reversal on marv is muuuuuch more scum indicative than Trfel's weird "I forgot my reason here it is" post.
mafia lol explain how it's more scum indicative in your eyes
i'm on the edge of my seat
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On September 30 2015 19:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote: RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads damdy rayn marv
On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin OK I fact checked that and it's true. Marv didn't post anything between rsoultin's townread of him and the "marv didn't push anything worth Damdy" post. Later she lists marv as one of the three lynch candidates from her POV. That doesn't make sense. rsoultin voted marv at the beginning of the game to pressure him. Then when marv did stuff, she put it in the "strong townread" category, before putting him in the "I would lynch him" category 1h30 later when marv DID NOT POST A THING BETWEEN.
this was rels' reason for voting me
he's clearly stuck on truffle's read progression of me
until you explain why reevaluating the game and thinking that i gave marv's fit following being voted for the first time too much credit is unbelievable, you are scum in my eyes
you have a reason to scumread truffle that you've been pushing all game, where we can't be scum together, but you drop it in an instant for this
why would i do this as scum, is the better question?
no one is asking that question
regardless, he drops the read he has been TUNNELING ALL GAME which is one of the reasons i was suspicious of him in the first place, cause it's based solely on early game and has allowed him to barely comment on the rest, but i thought he could be tunneled, to vote off a player who under any normal circumstances cannot possibly be scum with truffle, the player he's been tunneling
this is mafia taking advantage and not believing in what he's been harping on from the beginning
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On September 30 2015 20:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:52 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:48 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:46 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:38 rsoultin wrote: also i think we have scum in rels tbh, based on people's reactions to marv's "case" that wasn't a case and rels' push on truffle all game lol I push mafia marv's case is true Trfel's read progression on you is weird How does it makes me mafia ? marv's case is demonstrably false by my role pm lol moreover i've explained it more than adequately from a townie mindset. address what in my explanation doesn't make sense explain how trfel's read progression on me is weird given the knowledge that only the posts you quoted were serious from him and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum it doesn't make sense that you townread marv for his reaction to the pressure votes THEN realized he's done nothing and scumread him you having doubts about him is the reason you pressure voted him! Your flip flop on him is unbelievable yup this is your true scum lol he's making things up now it's perfectly reasonable to reevaluate based on the game state. there is nothing unreasonable about it the better question is what do i gain from flipping my read on marv at that point? what am I making up ? you scumread marv because you didn't have enough scumreads who are your scumreads now anyway ? me, scott ?
lol very good
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On September 30 2015 21:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:54 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote: RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads damdy rayn marv
On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin OK I fact checked that and it's true. Marv didn't post anything between rsoultin's townread of him and the "marv didn't push anything worth Damdy" post. Later she lists marv as one of the three lynch candidates from her POV. That doesn't make sense. rsoultin voted marv at the beginning of the game to pressure him. Then when marv did stuff, she put it in the "strong townread" category, before putting him in the "I would lynch him" category 1h30 later when marv DID NOT POST A THING BETWEEN. this was rels' reason for voting me he's clearly stuck on truffle's read progression of me until you explain why reevaluating the game and thinking that i gave marv's fit following being voted for the first time too much credit is unbelievable, you are scum in my eyes you have a reason to scumread truffle that you've been pushing all game, where we can't be scum together, but you drop it in an instant for this why would i do this as scum, is the better question? no one is asking that question regardless, he drops the read he has been TUNNELING ALL GAME which is one of the reasons i was suspicious of him in the first place, cause it's based solely on early game and has allowed him to barely comment on the rest, but i thought he could be tunneled, to vote off a player who under any normal circumstances cannot possibly be scum with truffle, the player he's been tunneling this is mafia taking advantage and not believing in what he's been harping on from the beginning
in case people still don't understand why this is scummy
NOTHING HAS CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT TRUFFLE'S READ PROGRESSION
if something had, sure, but it hasn't
he even tried to push me for truffle's read on me lol...the only way that makes sense is if he thinks we're scum together xP
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On September 30 2015 21:03 sicklucker wrote: i liked marv saying he does not go for hard lynches i kind of believed it.
ye that rang true
lynch rels with me now ^^
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hey, rayn, if you really thought i was scum so much that you insta!townread marv and rels for scumreading me, why weren't you pushing me?
why haven't you been probing me for my alignment?
that's odd to me tbh :/ explain
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On September 30 2015 21:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:00 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 19:54 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote: RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads damdy rayn marv
On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin OK I fact checked that and it's true. Marv didn't post anything between rsoultin's townread of him and the "marv didn't push anything worth Damdy" post. Later she lists marv as one of the three lynch candidates from her POV. That doesn't make sense. rsoultin voted marv at the beginning of the game to pressure him. Then when marv did stuff, she put it in the "strong townread" category, before putting him in the "I would lynch him" category 1h30 later when marv DID NOT POST A THING BETWEEN. this was rels' reason for voting me he's clearly stuck on truffle's read progression of me until you explain why reevaluating the game and thinking that i gave marv's fit following being voted for the first time too much credit is unbelievable, you are scum in my eyes you have a reason to scumread truffle that you've been pushing all game, where we can't be scum together, but you drop it in an instant for this why would i do this as scum, is the better question? no one is asking that question regardless, he drops the read he has been TUNNELING ALL GAME which is one of the reasons i was suspicious of him in the first place, cause it's based solely on early game and has allowed him to barely comment on the rest, but i thought he could be tunneled, to vote off a player who under any normal circumstances cannot possibly be scum with truffle, the player he's been tunneling this is mafia taking advantage and not believing in what he's been harping on from the beginning LOL you cannot possibly believe this I was not focusing only on Trfel. I asked questions and pushed reads, town or scum, on several people I liked Trfel's asnwers to the LS stuff, but now I need him to explain to me if the "rsoultin is mafia 'cause she's taking my bait and GB's bait seriously" was serious, and why he posted he forgot it. I'm not so sure he's mafia though compared to yesterday Actually if marv hadn't show me your contradiction, I would have voted coolTLname do I need to make a post to prove I was not tunneled on Trfel to the point of ignoring the rest of the game ?
you never answered my question
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oh you half did; i just missed it
what is unbelievable about reevaluating reads?
what makes this more likely to come from scum rsoul than town rsoul?
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On September 30 2015 21:09 rsoultin wrote: oh you half did; i just missed it
what is unbelievable about reevaluating reads?
what makes this more likely to come from scum rsoul than town rsoul?
yes you can wifom whatever you want and say hey it's a good scum strategy for scum rsoul to reverse a hard townread on town marv (laughable) but what you really have to prove is why it is more likely to come from scum than town
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no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did
a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum
caring = town
reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town
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On September 30 2015 21:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:09 rsoultin wrote: oh you half did; i just missed it
what is unbelievable about reevaluating reads?
what makes this more likely to come from scum rsoul than town rsoul? stop saying the same fucking things all the time NOTHING is wrong about re evaluating reads but you fucking PRESSURE VOTED marv 'cause you had doubts about him then you townread him for how he responded to the pressure THEN you scumread him for something he did BEFORE the townread, and I assume before the pressure vote
no i scumread him for his overall play
you should ask before you make assertions like this
i townread him because he reacted in a way that i considered to be townie to the pressure, but then continued to do very little to progress the thread, so i then reconsidered that maybe that reaction wasn't worth the hard townread
it's very simple and has already been explained
what doesn't make sense here?
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On September 30 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:06 rsoultin wrote: hey, rayn, if you really thought i was scum so much that you insta!townread marv and rels for scumreading me, why weren't you pushing me?
why haven't you been probing me for my alignment?
that's odd to me tbh :/ explain i explained it already. i am not gonna answer a single question anymore in this game that i have already very clearly explained. especially to scum. now i am gonna drive home so see you guys in like 3h. brb
ye you should probably still answer cause you're gonna look like shite when i flip town ^^
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On September 30 2015 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: The truth is i haven't paid any attention to what rsoultin actually says due to me thinking she is mafia anyways based on last couple of games. If this game had happened a month ago i would have been all yelling to her for the "Damdred's conclusion is factually correct".
Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl.
Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing.
##unvote ##vote rsoultin
so basically you're saying you haven't read me at all but still think i'm scum and haven't pushed me but still think i'm scum
explain why you think i'm scum based on the last few games
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On September 30 2015 21:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 21:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 21:09 rsoultin wrote: oh you half did; i just missed it
what is unbelievable about reevaluating reads?
what makes this more likely to come from scum rsoul than town rsoul? stop saying the same fucking things all the time NOTHING is wrong about re evaluating reads but you fucking PRESSURE VOTED marv 'cause you had doubts about him then you townread him for how he responded to the pressure THEN you scumread him for something he did BEFORE the townread, and I assume before the pressure vote no i scumread him for his overall play you should ask before you make assertions like this i townread him because he reacted in a way that i considered to be townie to the pressure, but then continued to do very little to progress the thread, so i then reconsidered that maybe that reaction wasn't worth the hard townread it's very simple and has already been explained what doesn't make sense here? ok confirmed mafia (= between this moment: "i townread him because he reacted in a way that i considered to be townie to the pressure" and this moment: "but then continued to do very little to progress the thread, so i then reconsidered that maybe that reaction wasn't worth the hard townread" marv was AFK, so he couldn't "continue to do very little to progress the thread" (=
lol if you're town you're an imbecile
i townread him for his reaction to the pressure
i started having too many townreads and knew i was townreading someone i shouldn't have been
he hadn't done anything of note really other than that reaction
i reconsidered my read based almost solely on that reaction
there is nothing that mandates that his being "afk" between when i townread him for something different and reconsidered the validity of that read based on other information resulting in a scumread, has any bearing on my reevaluation
why are you pushing this nonsense?
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like seriously how difficult is it to comprehend?
am i speaking swahili again?
i did this with ows, too. i was townreading obi for what i later considered to be a bad reason and then reversed my read on him. i was town. he was scum
nothing about my read progression makes me scum
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to be more clear cause i fail at that a lot
mav continued to do very little
AFTER THE POINT WHERE I FIRST TOWNREAD HIM AND UNVOTED HIM (not when the hosts noticed but when i actually unvoted him many hours earlier) FOR HIS REACTION TO THE PRESSURE
^^
and i'm pretty sure i said something to this effect when i first started talking about marv as scum again, cause i know i was thinking it
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On September 30 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote:@damdy Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication tbf one of the reasons i'm revisiting this is i keep looking at people i think could be scum then finding reasons that they don't seem that scummy, after all @.@ kinda lost here a bit
ye, see also the post quoted in the filter
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well nested quote whatever lol
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okay, rels, reads and reasons
your ls read has been static, that i remember distinctly
so has your truffle read
what was good about scott's list post?
who else do you think is scum and why?
townreads?
i want it all...i'd rather push scum as a counterwagon so if you're town, help me out here
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