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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 17 2015 00:27 GMT
#1681
Oh yeah, and if someone doesn't shoot Wile for being a complete asshat then we should lynch him right after Rayn.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
September 17 2015 06:29 GMT
#1682
So I feel like shit. I am making a post. I really havent read anything.

Taking pain meds. Hope to feel better tomorrow.
Try TL Mafia!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 06:43 GMT
#1683
On September 17 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Rayn's scumread on Moosy came from 2 things:
1. Moosy conflating games and thinking Rayn was in a game that he wasn't in. This isn't something uncommon. It happens all the time in my experience. It's something that's quite literally not alignment indicative.
2. Moosy saying he hasn't rolled mafia before and talking like he has. Yet, regardless of whether or not Moosy is lying about that, it has 0 bearing on his alignment this game.
3. Rayn listens to his townreads. Marv kinda thought moosy was town. Palmar was pretty sure moosy was town. IIRC he thought Damdred was town and damdred thought moosy was town. In the least, Rayn will get out of a bad tunnel like that AS TOWN when other people he's townreading say that shit's stupid/terrible/NAI.
4. I gave at least 3-4 other reasons to think Moosy was town. This doesn't include things other people said. These are all things that Rayn could have and should have picked up on. I don't think the Moosy read was that hard of a read. Honestly, I think it was pretty obvious.
5. The other game. Rayn died scumreading Moosy and someone else. Even if Rayn is sure of his read in the other game; that game and this game look reasonably different. Different enough that I don't think it's reasonable to think that Rayn's memory is merging the two games. Rather, it's more reasonable for him to get to "I'm really sure he was mafia in that game; therefore he's likely town in this game."

There's a lot of other little stuff; how he bounces between reads, what he drives at, etc. Some of which I can explain and some of which I can't. There is however, one important thing I want to point out:
Come near the end of the day, when people aren't sheeping him, Rayn isn't driving home points on Moosy. Rayn isn't calling 3 people mafia and trying to get all 3 lynched at once. I think it was JOAT where Rayn caught me because he didn't know my "these are the people I want to lynch list"; and it was a valid read. Here, near the end of the day, we get an idea of who Rayn wants to kill, but there's no long (or even tldr point by point) case on a handful of people who need to die AND WHY.

That's why Rayn is mafia.

you are terrible at this game geript, you know that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 06:44 GMT
#1684
nah actually no, you are just mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 06:48 GMT
#1685
On September 17 2015 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Why on earth did you lynch moosy? Wtf happened to the Cephiro wagon? Why the fuck did rayn lynch moosy after saying mafia is most likely between damdred, cephiro and me? Good job, you made a town/town lynch happen. Don't even consider for a nanosecond that the people on my wagon are more towny than the people on moosy.

If there is a vigilante shoot me.

and what the fuck is this shit?
learn to fucking read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 06:50 GMT
#1686
Like the two people who are supposed to be decent in this game have fucking balls to come here and throw shit at me and call me mafia when they had ABSOLUTLY no interest in finding mafia on D1.

No geript, your dumb rant post doesn't make you "trying", it just makes you stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 07:14 GMT
#1687
On September 17 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Rayn's scumread on Moosy came from 2 things:
1. Moosy conflating games and thinking Rayn was in a game that he wasn't in. This isn't something uncommon. It happens all the time in my experience. It's something that's quite literally not alignment indicative.
2. Moosy saying he hasn't rolled mafia before and talking like he has. Yet, regardless of whether or not Moosy is lying about that, it has 0 bearing on his alignment this game.
3. Rayn listens to his townreads. Marv kinda thought moosy was town. Palmar was pretty sure moosy was town. IIRC he thought Damdred was town and damdred thought moosy was town. In the least, Rayn will get out of a bad tunnel like that AS TOWN when other people he's townreading say that shit's stupid/terrible/NAI.
4. I gave at least 3-4 other reasons to think Moosy was town. This doesn't include things other people said. These are all things that Rayn could have and should have picked up on. I don't think the Moosy read was that hard of a read. Honestly, I think it was pretty obvious.
5. The other game. Rayn died scumreading Moosy and someone else. Even if Rayn is sure of his read in the other game; that game and this game look reasonably different. Different enough that I don't think it's reasonable to think that Rayn's memory is merging the two games. Rather, it's more reasonable for him to get to "I'm really sure he was mafia in that game; therefore he's likely town in this game."

There's a lot of other little stuff; how he bounces between reads, what he drives at, etc. Some of which I can explain and some of which I can't.


There is however, one important thing I want to point out:
Come near the end of the day, when people aren't sheeping him, Rayn isn't driving home points on Moosy. Rayn isn't calling 3 people mafia and trying to get all 3 lynched at once. I think it was JOAT where Rayn caught me because he didn't know my "these are the people I want to lynch list"; and it was a valid read. Here, near the end of the day, we get an idea of who Rayn wants to kill, but there's no long (or even tldr point by point) case on a handful of people who need to die AND WHY.

That's why Rayn is mafia.

First of all; All of the things above the line break happened BEFORE this post:
On September 17 2015 01:07 geript wrote:
But I'm really struggling to townread the people I usually have an easy time reading (Rayn/Damdred)

Apparently all those things are things geript scumreads me for.
Apparently he didn't scumread me for those things before.
I don't believe for a second that geript (yes, we are talking about GERIPT here) does not call me mafia at the time of the second quoted if he really thinks those things make me mafia. It makes him scum, he is literally just fabricating a read based on reasons that were NOT reasons to call me mafia earlier.

Second, the rest of his post is bullshit. I clearly said who i do want to lynch. I wanted to lynch moosy and pushed his lynch. It is that fucking easy, i did that. I don't present a handful of people i want to die. I present a lynch i want, and try to lynch them. That is EXACTLY what i do as town, that is exactly what i did. I didn't do what geript said here. I don't even fucking know what this....
Rayn isn't calling 3 people mafia and trying to get all 3 lynched at once.

... or this...
Here, near the end of the day, we get an idea of who Rayn wants to kill, but there's no long (or even tldr point by point) case on a handful of people who need to die AND WHY.

...means????

I don't try to lynch more than one person at a time. I never do.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 07:16 GMT
#1688
That is my defense and that is also my case on geript.
TLDR; his read on me is so shit it possibly cannot come from town!geript.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 07:17 GMT
#1689
It's the scum 101 "let's make this guy lynch town while not really caring and then call him mafia for it" thing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 07:18 GMT
#1690
On September 17 2015 09:20 justanothertownie wrote:
rofl, Wile is Sicklucker.

Is there a reason to believe this is true?
Because if this is true then he is scum without any doubt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 08:19 GMT
#1691
Okay i have to go travel now. I will be back when on my phone when i have done the check-in in harbor.

JAT please answer me about this wile/sl thing.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
September 17 2015 08:31 GMT
#1692
On September 17 2015 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i have to go travel now. I will be back when on my phone when i have done the check-in in harbor.

JAT please answer me about this wile/sl thing.

I will in a minute.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
September 17 2015 08:41 GMT
#1693
Disclaimer: I did not really read what happened since I left yesterday yet. Only took a glance over the result and some posts that caught my eye so far.

So background stuff:

I said this at the beginning of the game:
On September 15 2015 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:55 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test

Why would you townread someone for giving you information (I assume that's what you are talking about?)?

Why are you smurfing if you are new here or do people in this game in fact know you?


I never said I was smurfing but I sapose I am. I just have not played here or forum mafia in along time. I even forgot my tl login.

People who want to solve the game will include me and try to interact with me, and help me. Mafia who just want my easy mislynch will ignore me as an outsider

I just think it is weird to ask slam for his smurf instead of making your own account even if you lost your old one. It also means you knew slam had a smurf in the first place which is weird if you really haven't played here for a long time.

And I still very much think so. SL played video mafia and knows a lot about it so this kind of backstory makes sense for him to invent. He also knows this particular smurf of slam and that other people can use it since I did so when I carried his useless ass as scum in void mafia. His condescending attitude and weird opinion on certain things (mentioning mathematics etc.) also fits perfectly.

Now to the juicy part:
On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross.

This is a typical SL mistake and it happens multiple times in his filter. I already wondered when I saw it but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt because he isn't the only one I ever saw doing this.
This one however I only ever saw Sicklucker make and nobody else:
On September 17 2015 06:29 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Yes if this is are last chance to talk gerpit and onegu probably best veg shots

Absolutely characteristic of him. He did a decent job at hiding for a while but yesterday he slipped up.

I am confident this is Sicklucker.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
September 17 2015 08:54 GMT
#1694
The last post is interesting anyways since regardless of how scummy they look Onegu and geript are the only alive people besides me who did not vote on confirmed town (to me) yesterday.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 08:56 GMT
#1695
Omfg maybe i was jsut terrible and you are right and hd is scum.
Like if he is sl he is def scum.

Geript is still scum though.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
September 17 2015 08:56 GMT
#1696
And considering how the wagon on Cephiro got overtaken by Moosy who there was no good case on if you people didn't bring up anything new since I was gone and me who there is absolutely no case on despite cephiro being very scummy and multiple people saying so probably means he is mafia. If Cephiro is not mafia this town sucks ass.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 08:57 GMT
#1697
Marv do you remember the game where i fucked up royally?
This one guy replaced in somewhere and made a case on confirmed town.
Well this confirmed dude is mason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 09:00 GMT
#1698
Jat i really do not think you are scum.cephiro is probably scum too.
There is one thing that makes me unsure but ill talk about that later.

Wifi in train is terrible and i cant use tablet. Thank god ly phone at least sorks properly this time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 17 2015 09:05 GMT
#1699
I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia.
I will tell you them some day.

But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for.
Thank you.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
September 17 2015 09:06 GMT
#1700
It has been townjat all along. Being in this counterwagon position is actually pretty nice now that I think of it. Will read what I missed and give my thoughts on it later on.
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