i'll read your filter again at the end of the night and finalize my stance on your alignment. i am confident i can get a read on you with your current level of content, less on those other 4.

geript

10024 Posts

September 16 2015 23:18 GMT

#1668

1. I apologize to Damdred. Wile said the shitty thing not Damdred.

2. I'm 99% sure Rayn is mafia.

Wile E. Coyote

Mexico790 Posts

September 16 2015 23:18 GMT

#1669

Aint even mad

geript

10024 Posts

September 16 2015 23:21 GMT

#1670

On September 17 2015 05:23 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

b/c I think rayn wants to lynch him basically over bs and I dont' think that type of wagon really ever stays together. Like Moosy is either excluding the other current game, which means he's telling the truth most likely regardless of his alignment in this game. Or Moosy is telling the truth because he's town in the other current game, which is completely NAI for this game. Or moosy is lying because he's mafia in the other game, which is completely nai because it's something you'd have to lie about if he's mafia in that game or else you out yourself in one game to save yourself in another. So I don't see how people don't see that and not decide to move elsewhere. Especially when there's lots of random reasons to think Moosy is town this game.

This is why.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

September 16 2015 23:29 GMT

#1671

On September 17 2015 08:21 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

On September 17 2015 05:23 geript wrote:

On September 17 2015 05:17 Damdred wrote:

On September 17 2015 05:15 geript wrote:

On September 17 2015 05:10 ritoky wrote:

On September 17 2015 05:07 geript wrote:

On September 17 2015 05:00 ritoky wrote:

On September 17 2015 04:58 geript wrote:

On September 17 2015 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But i am really sure geript is mafia.
He is almost definitely mafia.

marv is the ONLY player EVER who can accurately read me when i post enough.
Even if geript thinks i might be mafia (which he kinda doesn't even do - he says he can't get a read on me), if he thinks marv is mafia he should totally trust marv's read on me. 100%.

I'd point out that in the big game where I tracked Damdred, there were lots of people who didn't think it was so. I forget who else was in that game but I think Marv and Palmar were in it. Both of whom I think disagreed w/ me on damdred then too. Me disagreeing on a read with Marv/other strong town reads doesn't make me mafia. I'm more than happy to push what I think is right as town even if I accede to follow their lead on lynches lacking other information.

you got enough time to explain to me why JAT is mafia?

I can't read jat worth a fuck. so i don't even know why he would be mafia.

okay, what about the question i just asked rayn. both the top 2 wagons come in and vote on coyote, say anything about their alignments?

I don't think moosy is a real wagon except perhaps in rayn's world. Overall, it's an interesting thought. But meh. I don't think it's really related to either of their alignments.

hiws moosey not a real wagon when he's tied for lead I believe in votes

This is why.

can you expound on this over the course of the night phase, and also who else is mafia/town.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 16 2015 23:43 GMT

#1672

I destroyed my ssd disk. Really sad. Dnu what I am going to do about it yet.

Jat still mafia

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 16 2015 23:45 GMT

#1673

LoL I could have lynched jat if I was around. So silly.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 16 2015 23:46 GMT

#1674

All my documents gone and didnt lynch jat.... sick

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 16 2015 23:48 GMT

#1675

Marv protected jat. Sick.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 16 2015 23:49 GMT

#1676

Fml. Hopefully I can reinstall wibdows tomorrow on an old hard disk.

This game will be really lowest priority. Dnu. Maybe I ll follow it when it is lylo.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

September 16 2015 23:49 GMT

#1677

Why on earth did you lynch moosy? Wtf happened to the Cephiro wagon? Why the fuck did rayn lynch moosy after saying mafia is most likely between damdred, cephiro and me? Good job, you made a town/town lynch happen. Don't even consider for a nanosecond that the people on my wagon are more towny than the people on moosy.

If there is a vigilante shoot me.

geript

10024 Posts

September 16 2015 23:59 GMT

#1678

Rayn's scumread on Moosy came from 2 things:
1. Moosy conflating games and thinking Rayn was in a game that he wasn't in. This isn't something uncommon. It happens all the time in my experience. It's something that's quite literally not alignment indicative.
2. Moosy saying he hasn't rolled mafia before and talking like he has. Yet, regardless of whether or not Moosy is lying about that, it has 0 bearing on his alignment this game.
3. Rayn listens to his townreads. Marv kinda thought moosy was town. Palmar was pretty sure moosy was town. IIRC he thought Damdred was town and damdred thought moosy was town. In the least, Rayn will get out of a bad tunnel like that AS TOWN when other people he's townreading say that shit's stupid/terrible/NAI.
4. I gave at least 3-4 other reasons to think Moosy was town. This doesn't include things other people said. These are all things that Rayn could have and should have picked up on. I don't think the Moosy read was that hard of a read. Honestly, I think it was pretty obvious.
5. The other game. Rayn died scumreading Moosy and someone else. Even if Rayn is sure of his read in the other game; that game and this game look reasonably different. Different enough that I don't think it's reasonable to think that Rayn's memory is merging the two games. Rather, it's more reasonable for him to get to "I'm really sure he was mafia in that game; therefore he's likely town in this game."

There's a lot of other little stuff; how he bounces between reads, what he drives at, etc. Some of which I can explain and some of which I can't. There is however, one important thing I want to point out:
Come near the end of the day, when people aren't sheeping him, Rayn isn't driving home points on Moosy. Rayn isn't calling 3 people mafia and trying to get all 3 lynched at once. I think it was JOAT where Rayn caught me because he didn't know my "these are the people I want to lynch list"; and it was a valid read. Here, near the end of the day, we get an idea of who Rayn wants to kill, but there's no long (or even tldr point by point) case on a handful of people who need to die AND WHY.

That's why Rayn is mafia.

geript

10024 Posts

September 17 2015 00:00 GMT

#1679

Also, something something ignoring Koshi when at one point IIRC Rayn said if he keeps on posting like he is he's probably mafia.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

September 17 2015 00:20 GMT

#1680

rofl, Wile is Sicklucker.