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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Day 1 Votecount MoosyDoosy (3): raynpelikoneet, Wile E. Coyote, Palmar, Cephiro (3): marvellosity (1): Wile E. Coyote (1): MoosyDoosy Palmar (1): geript justanothertownie (0): Damdred (0): geript (0): Not Voting (4): Cephiro, TheWarWaffle, Damdred, ritoky Voting ends in at 21:30 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 17 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred do you have anything to say about this? Just don't want to lynch geript even if what he says is strange. I might lynch idk probably better lynched today | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On September 17 2015 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm is Damdred actually mafia? Is he finally on the table? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
I want to be on the table. | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 17 2015 02:46 Damdred wrote: Just don't want to lynch geript even if what he says is strange. I might lynch idk probably better lynched today The problem i have here with you is that you literally gave reasons why you think geript is mafia (one of your only scumreads at that time to be exact). Here: On September 15 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: Firstly I can back up most of my reads with some form of reasonable explanation even if people think they are bad to a point in pretty confident in the reads. The geript scum read is interesting because he's acting oddly at this point. Usually when he's in a game with me he know he can read me rather well and has caught me as scum a couple times and can read me town generally well. However he's not even waiting or trying to see if I can give some of my damdred town goodness that I am horrendous at faking. Instead he's content on disparaging my reads to a point and being content in saying he wants to lynch me. He also is missing some of his normal flair which isn't really indicative Especialyl the bolded part here. Now this is what geript says later on: I'm really struggling to townread the people I usually have an easy time reading (Rayn/Damdred). and that's all. Now, this literally goes directly against what you think he does as town. In fact this should strengthen your scumread on him, but instead you take him off your lynch pool. What are these really townie things geript has done that override scummy.. and continuously acting in a way you think is scummy? | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
Maybe just conflating ideas. | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
Like he called me mafia all game for no reason, but did he ever question me? Did he ask me things or did he in any way try to figure me out? Nope. Did he do it for Waffle who he is also calling mafia? Nope. Then there is the fact that neither ritoky nor geript are townreading him which is very interesting. I think he is a decent lynch. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me. And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life In my opinion, townies shouldn't be concerned with the power roles they possess anywhere else but in their mind. At most, you can try to distract mafia from finding them, but I don't see why a townie would ever want to bring up anything about someone being a power role or not. If you make a honest claim of not being one, that's a smaller pool for the mafia to search from. Fakeclaiming VT to get people off your back is a possibility, but I don't see why a power role would feel the necessity to do that on D1 if it's not a "everyone claims"-parade for whatever reason. On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job ^ I feel this is fairly contradictory when taken the above quote into account? For someone not wanting to help mafia by talking about rolehunting, he sure pays a fair lot of attention to it. On September 16 2015 18:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I never acualy said I would do pro town things. I said me shutting up about a subject was pro town. Ill do what I wanna do on my own scedule ^ On your own schedule sure, but why the hell would you not do pro-town things? On September 16 2015 20:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: when i am mafiai am not voting someone that is believed to be vt. Thats for damn sure im going after potential poweroles. I think if theres clear evidence im town its that im voting a claimed vt because i am not terrible. In the format I play protecting power roles is super important and finding them as mafia is even more. I have moosys range as vt/ lying about being vt for cheap newbie town reads. So you wouldn't take a mislynch served on a platter as mafia? Calling bullshit on this. As much as I dislike VT claims early on, I would argue that voting for a VT claim does in absolutely no way make you town. If you think protecting power roles is important, then why the hell are you constantly bringing attention to people who have claimed vt and whether they've fakeclaimed or not? Still got the last 15 pages or so to go through more in-depth, but I'm getting a fairly good idea of how I'd like to lynch today. Assuming nothing significant to change my mind comes up: Wile > JAT > marv/geript | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 17 2015 03:12 Cephiro wrote: today. Assuming nothing significant to change my mind comes up: Wile > JAT > marv/geript I'd like to hear why you think JAT/marv/geript is mafia. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
JAT mostly for reasons that have been brought up, as in producing mostly irrelevant content. Sure, he talks and asks stuff but so far it feels like he's being around for the sake of being around. marv because even though he is "participating", it doesn't seem he's doing enough with the information he goes after. I mean, he asks a lot of questions and posts his opinions, but he doesn't really try to get anything done with it. He could be just trying to get a better read on the game as a whole, but I don't see him pushing for anything strongly enough to get something done. With his post quality and amount, I'd expect him to try to get something done with all the information he's gathering. So far I don't see that happening? If you compare it to your play for example, you have more nonsensical stuff in your filter that's irrelevant than he does, but you're much more actively pressuring your scumreads and trying to get shit done. geript because half of his posts are absolutely irrelevant to the game, and the remainder feels like the level of I don't give a shit -commitment. As in, he talks about palmar meta like it's somehow significant. I'm not saying meta is a thing that should never be used, but infuriates me when I see experienced mafia players here using it like "But player X has said hi as town in three games in a row, so if his first post isn't hi he has to be scum". Seriously? Maybe I don't just understand you veterans metaing each other for the stupidest reasons ever and I'm the idiot, but that's honestly how I feel about most of your "meta" analysis towards each other. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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