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Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily.
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On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ  On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit?
GG Mr. 2 page filter
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Marv dies - he gave up, but I'm like seriously - Do you want respect for your play? Why do you even ask to join anymore? I spend good time looking and figuring out who is Mafia in the game - and There's only two left. Cephiro and others could give a fuck. There's plenty of sites you can troll on and get your dick still stiff.
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On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter
You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed?
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
He had no problem posting plenty of info about the LYLO I just lost and reposting when I just said anything.
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On September 22 2015 15:07 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed?
No. I'm putting my thoughts out concisely while having a bit of fun. In one of your reads on me you said nothing stuck out in my filter. Did you even read it? Rayn tunnel. Palmar/Damdred early suspicion. One Vet is a mafia read. Sure I'm not my 15 pages of unmitigated aggression half filled with stupidity (50% ain't bad though right?; at least I got the stupid down pat) but I'm not wholly irrelevant. It's also not like I haven't given my thoughts. I can get me being harder to read this game, but I don't think its that hard to see I'm obviously town. That I'm trying to think/analyze when I can or sheep appropriately/reasonably when I cant.
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I wonder what Palmar's mafia by post count thing would say. I vaguely recall Palmar used that when he was mafia.
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On September 22 2015 15:15 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:07 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed? No. I'm putting my thoughts out concisely while having a bit of fun. In one of your reads on me you said nothing stuck out in my filter. Did you even read it? Rayn tunnel. Palmar/Damdred early suspicion. One Vet is a mafia read. Sure I'm not my 15 pages of unmitigated aggression half filled with stupidity (50% ain't bad though right?; at least I got the stupid down pat) but I'm not wholly irrelevant. It's also not like I haven't given my thoughts. I can get me being harder to read this game, but I don't think its that hard to see I'm obviously town. That I'm trying to think/analyze when I can or sheep appropriately/reasonably when I cant.
Time to sheep then.
You are really going for too dumb to be scum, aren't you? How can a townie possibly ignore how marv just gave up and how I have been the only unconfirmed trying to win this game for town for multiple days now. At least Palmar put in a little bit of effort but the rest of you should be ashamed of your own play.
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On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily.
Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now?
I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game.
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On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game.
How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
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On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
To the bolded: Nobody said it was. And new marv meta might be more lazy but it is still incredibly easily to townread and he does still give more than enough fucks.
You will not get any towncred from his flip for this nonsense. You overused your stupid and wrong card.
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On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read.
Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point.
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On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
It literally doesn't matter whether marv can be town or not.
With him having done nothing today it's strictly the correct play to lynch him.
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On September 22 2015 15:17 geript wrote:
I wonder what Palmar's mafia by post count thing would say. I vaguely recall Palmar used that when he was mafia.
I cba configuring it for this game (I never wrote a good way to interact with the program so it takes a bit to set up).
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it makes me sad that cephiro, marv, and damdred have all done nothing today and 1 of them HAS to be town.....
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On September 22 2015 18:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read. Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point.
At this point I just hope he gets modkilled. Marv flipping GF would also be awesome.
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On September 22 2015 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 18:47 ritoky wrote:On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read. Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point. At this point I just hope he gets modkilled. Marv flipping GF would also be awesome.
we don't lose a lynch right? i am too tired to math.
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1 modkill is fine. 2 is not.
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Well thats assuming 2 mafia alive and aren't modkilled. It's kinda funny 2 modkills and a mislynch could prove my 1 mafia theory. But eh b
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On September 22 2015 18:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 18:47 ritoky wrote:On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read. Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point. At this point I just hope he gets modkilled. Marv flipping GF would also be awesome. we don't lose a lynch right? i am too tired to math.
We don't I think. I haven't calculated for Onegu being mafia but if Onegu was town we lost a mislynch because you shot him and a modkill will not lose us another one. Getting modkilled would be the most protown thing Cephiro did all game in a way.
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