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On September 22 2015 07:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 06:59 Palmar wrote:
geript going for the too dumb to be scum play. It's really not if you bother to read why people were reading XYZ. People have harassed me all game for reads that I've already given and explained. I just cba to give a fuck about repeating shit when I'm busy and they can read my relatively short filter quite easily.
You're missing the point.
On September 22 2015 06:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 06:24 Palmar wrote:
Like here's (off the top of my head, not researched or designed to be particularly valid) points I was talking about earlier that could possibly make you mafia (please don't argue with them as I'm not going to argue for them).
1) the background-y-ness on day 1 really sticks with me. I feel like I was in more than a couple of conversations where your entire role in the conversation was to just chirp in at random times with something relatively pointless.
2) The strong opposition to damdred's read on wile and refusal to count it as a point in damdred's favour (even if it was wrong, it was a good observation)
3) The "blow things out of proportion" thing. I wrote the post where you called something that was just a difference in understanding a blatant lie, someone else called you out on something similar on day 2, and you did it once again today (I can't remember the context, but I mentioned it). Like you've been SUPER aggressive about shutting down ideas that involve you being mafia this game
4) I got a weird feeling from the way you talked about me possibly being mafia if marv flips mafia. I know that it's essentially correct but I always felt your stance was "Palmar is likely mafia if marv is mafia" and not "Palmar can be mafia, but isn't really likely to be even if marv flips mafia". This goes back to my #dreamteam theory (that was semi-serious at the time). I don't see how any of this makes him town whatsoever.
None of this was meant to make him town. In fact quite the opposite. It's a collection of small annoying things that could possibly mean jat is mafia. I don't think it's enough to make him mafia and in general I'm too lazy to really explore the possibility, but yeah.
you didn't understand that past.
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Also, jat mentioned he might vomit if he had to read some damdred phrases again at some point. That was kinda towny. Only townies vomit.
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On September 22 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ  On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit.
That's a flat out lie. All anyone has to do is open rayn's filter and cntrl+f "JAT" and his read on you seems to come around as his read on me comes around at the same time.
On September 17 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:06 justanothertownie wrote:
It has been townjat all along. Being in this counterwagon position is actually pretty nice now that I think of it. Will read what I missed and give my thoughts on it later on. I dont think that means much. I mean like if you are town idk what that would mean regarding the votes (if two townies are up for lynch). If anything, it should be a red flag on geript because he didn't give a shit about who gets lynched.... and now look at what he is saying....
On September 17 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia.  I will tell you them some day. But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for. Thank you.
Additionally, it comes around based on your Wile/SL smurf read. One that's actually pretty useless IMO honestly (although I enjoy lynching SL b/c he's a complete asshat). It's interesting, but I don't think it's like "OMG 100% must be mafia because SL." I forget who caught the Wile claim fuck up thing, but I think it was JAT iirc and that's the sort of bus that's great to do because it'll happen regardless at some point.
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On September 22 2015 07:23 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit. That's a flat out lie. All anyone has to do is open rayn's filter and cntrl+f "JAT" and his read on you seems to come around as his read on me comes around at the same time. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 18:06 justanothertownie wrote:
It has been townjat all along. Being in this counterwagon position is actually pretty nice now that I think of it. Will read what I missed and give my thoughts on it later on. I dont think that means much. I mean like if you are town idk what that would mean regarding the votes (if two townies are up for lynch). If anything, it should be a red flag on geript because he didn't give a shit about who gets lynched.... and now look at what he is saying.... Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia. I will tell you them some day. But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for. Thank you. Additionally, it comes around based on your Wile/SL smurf read. One that's actually pretty useless IMO honestly (although I enjoy lynching SL b/c he's a complete asshat). It's interesting, but I don't think it's like "OMG 100% must be mafia because SL." I forget who caught the Wile claim fuck up thing, but I think it was JAT iirc and that's the sort of bus that's great to do because it'll happen regardless at some point.
Rayn can make/have 2 reads at the same time without them being correlated to each other. I know it must seem like a complicated and foreign concept but it actually is possible.
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Not that any of this has the slightest relevance for our lynch today. Fine, rayns townread on me does not make me town. Are you content now? That does not make marv any less scummy.
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Nah. He's very much a team builder. His reads tend to at least in part be association based. Which is why when he gets tricked by 1 scum playing well or pocketing him he's be wrong about multiple. It's why he often pushes 2-3 people at once.
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Well, he was right on Wile and he might be right on you :/
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most bizarre day of work....literally could not stop getting blood on me the entire fucking night/morning.....
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Better than having a old guy who wants to have two BM's every day even after major surgery, being NPO for 12, etc. bitch to the doctor and have a progressive series of stool softeners ending in golytely squirm all of the the fucking bed and spread his code brown onto your scrubs.
That happened to a bitch I knew in nursing school. I almost felt bad for her, but she was a real bitch and 100% deserved it.
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On September 22 2015 07:55 geript wrote:
Better than having a old guy who wants to have two BM's every day even after major surgery, being NPO for 12, etc. bitch to the doctor and have a progressive series of stool softeners ending in golytely squirm all of the the fucking bed and spread his code brown onto your scrubs.
That happened to a bitch I knew in nursing school. I almost felt bad for her, but she was a real bitch and 100% deserved it.
that's really shitty....get it?
but seriously you just reminded me that it is the fall, which means summer love is over and people get dumped/depressed and start sticking things in their ass and then they come to the ER cuz it is stuck or they haven't pooped for 2 weeks.....like this is not even a joke either is the sad part.
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gonna move my vote to marv or cephiro for fucking off too much.
also should go back and look at who was the least engaged in the game last day phase....cuz i seriously think the person making the nks had to be fairly disengaged to believe scott only had 1 use....they also missed me soft vigi 3 times.
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On September 22 2015 08:00 ritoky wrote:
gonna move my vote to marv or cephiro for fucking off too much.
also should go back and look at who was the least engaged in the game last day phase....cuz i seriously think the person making the nks had to be fairly disengaged to believe scott only had 1 use....they also missed me soft vigi 3 times.
I really think it is much more likely that the mafiateam has a godfather and therefore didn't give a shit about the tracker.
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Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team.
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idk i don't really have a reason to think ceph is mafia outside of the fact that he is giving literal 0 fucks.
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geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
That's not the only disconcerting thing about his posts this dayphase. They are all garbage. And don't get me wrong I expect a certain amount of bad posts from town geript but he is going way overboard.
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town.
The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other.
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On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me.
So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct?
On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team.
This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town?
On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter.
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On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other.
I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment.
There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful.
Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now.
There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS?
Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game -
Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit?
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