EPTHtS linked me to a 2 page post from last summer where people talked about not liking the spreadseets and a few other things, but I missed it and nothing in the rules posts was ever updated to reflect what was said in that thread, so :\
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
HtS linked me to a 2 page post from last summer where people talked about not liking the spreadseets and a few other things, but I missed it and nothing in the rules posts was ever updated to reflect what was said in that thread, so :\ | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote: I don't mind taking the warning. I'm not a trouble maker and have never been warned and don't expect to ever be warned again, but since this specific infraction was one that has definitely been done in the past (just take a look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=docs.google.com&t=c&f=31&u=wherebugsgo&gb=date&d= and see how often bugs has done it) without it being punished, I honestly didn't think anything of it. HtS linked me to a 2 page post from last summer where people talked about not liking the spreadseets and a few other things, but I missed it and nothing in the rules posts was ever updated to reflect what was said in that thread, so :\ Becuase you yourself brought the issue to my attention via PM, very quickly followed my directions about what to do, and such conduct has to be inferred from the rules, I am only requesting a 1 game warning. However, I do believe that this still violates the out of thread communication rule, and thats why I am still persuing some action. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
Basically my point was that maybe we should think about updating the model OP or something, becuase this specific thing is something that has been done a LOT in the past without being a problem, so if you used to do it and missed the small thread where people decided the rule should change, then it can bite you in the ass. Like I can imagine bugs coming back and posting a spreadsheet again because it's something he does in a LOT of his games, and he wouldn't think anything of it and get in trouble too. That's basically my point  | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:56 Keirathi wrote: I'm...not really sure why I'm arguing my point. Like I said, I don't mind taking the warning. It's your rules, and you get to decide what is in violation of them. Basically my point was that maybe we should think about updating the model OP or something, becuase this specific thing is something that has been done a LOT in the past without being a problem, so if you used to do it and missed the small thread where people decided the rule should change, then it can bite you in the ass. Like I can imagine bugs coming back and posting a spreadsheet again because it's something he does in a LOT of his games, and he wouldn't think anything of it and get in trouble too. That's basically my point Yep, my OPs will be updated to reflect my ruling on this. Thats why I'm actually glad both of us posted here. This way other hosts can be aware of this issue and adjust their OPs if they have concerns with it like I do. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:10 GreYMisT wrote: No bans requested for PYP: Intriguing I would like to request a warning for Keirathi and The Shining. Keirathi posted a link to a google spreadsheet which he was capable of editing, indirectly violating the no editing and no out of thread communication rule. The Shining violated my behavior policy after warnings by me to the thread. However, I would like to request that their warnings be removed after only 1 game, instead of the usual 3. If this is not possible to keep track of then do not issue a warning. Their conduct did not have enough of an adverse impact and they corrected the issues immediatly. mini-warnings are approved. It'll be up to The Shining and Keirathi to PM me to remind me if I don't remove them after a game | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 05 2016 07:06 IAmRobik wrote: Am I still banned? You are banned. I don't remember the circumstances of your semi-perm ban, which was approved by GM, but if you wish to discuss it, let me know and I can look into things. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On February 05 2016 07:15 IAmRobik wrote: Pretty sure it was for telling some girl that she's a bitch and that she sucks at the game and she should go home draped in an american flag (since she was military). I see. Well, then the current state of things is appropriate. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On February 05 2016 07:15 IAmRobik wrote: Pretty sure it was for telling some girl that she's a bitch and that she sucks at the game and she should go home draped in an american flag (since she was military). So you still think what you said is perfectly peachy fine? | ||
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Damdred
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 05 2016 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm tired of Keirathi's rabble-rousing. Wat Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:56 Keirathi wrote: I'm...not really sure why I'm arguing my point. Like I said, I don't mind taking the warning. It's your rules, and you get to decide what is in violation of them. Basically my point was that maybe we should think about updating the model OP or something, becuase this specific thing is something that has been done a LOT in the past without being a problem, so if you used to do it and missed the small thread where people decided the rule should change, then it can bite you in the ass. Like I can imagine bugs coming back and posting a spreadsheet again because it's something he does in a LOT of his games, and he wouldn't think anything of it and get in trouble too. That's basically my point If someone posts some sort of rough draft in the model OP thread (which also provides a little more attention to this), I'll incorporate it into the model OP. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 04 2016 10:05 Blazinghand wrote: mini-warnings are approved. It'll be up to The Shining and Keirathi to PM me to remind me if I don't remove them after a game Will do. I understand the warning. Thanks for the leniency. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I thought I did maybe I didn't I can't remember Anyway I sat out newbie xix I sent it but it was vague | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
1 Stutters695 has completed his one-game ban. 2 After discussion with others on a proper solution, MoosyDoosy, the mafia vigilante, was effectively modkilled for failure to submit a shot in a game that required the scumteam to shoot. I'm not placing in a recommendation for an actual ban, unless there was actual precedent for such by other moderators. Part of my issue here was that I've never encountered a situation where scum failed to submit a shot in a mandatory shot game, so if there's a proper reasoning where someone in the past was penalised for it, then that's the precendent I'll follow. One issue is that he did not post all night phase in thread or in mafia qt after his remaining teammate died. The instructions to concede were first given 2 cycles prior to this, when two of his teammates were alive, yet up for auto-lynch. It was to be expected to know to shoot and also to properly concede. Additionally, there has been some peripheral discussion of rulebreaking involved that I'll leave up to the experts to expand on if they wish. 3 Onegu replaced out day 2 due to illness, and so, no action necessary. | ||
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