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On November 19 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:
This isn't to say that all hosts let people slide, BH doesn't let anything slide. JAT/Kel being mod killed for small reasons, and I have been warned several times in BH games, so I will say that Bh is at least fair across the board. But most hosts aren't and it is a bit frustrating for the player base to have to deal with.
My temporay modkill was the most ridiculous mod action I have ever seen. It took several people to berate him to unmodkill me even after he noticed his mistake.
BH modkills before thinking.
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On November 19 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:
It is ridiculous that Rayn can potentially get a 5 game ban for a 1 game offense.
That is so broken its not even funny.
Yes. 1 game was requested and 1 game he should get.
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On November 18 2015 12:28 Half the Sky wrote:
...with players cited leaving the community getting worn down by such an environment is something that in general needs to be addressed. (The moderators actually discussed it in the host QT in Drams.)
...with a recent history of his behaviour towards players in SOTW, Drams, etc...
Now be a reasonable person and answer these Half the Sky.
EDIT:
You have particularly brought up these games:
- Tropical Storm
- Battle of Drams
- SOTW
I actually went and read my own filters in all of these games, and the only comment i ever made in those games (in context, as you put it) that could be considered "inappropriate" or "out of line" was ONE comment towards coolTLname, which btw you -- based on your PM to me -- didn't find out of line enough to even warn me about.
So, i really want you to quote the posts you think i have made that make you say the things you say to me right here, right now. Please.
And then you need to tell me which players i have made quit TL Mafia by my behavior. Please.
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On November 19 2015 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:
It is ridiculous that Rayn can potentially get a 5 game ban for a 1 game offense.
That is so broken its not even funny. Yes. 1 game was requested and 1 game he should get.
Doesn't matter. I wont play anything except for invite only games anyways since HtS and Blazinghand are hosting around 70% of the games here anyways and i don't think either of those people are reasonable hosts based purely on their capabilities of judging the games they host.
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On November 19 2015 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:
This isn't to say that all hosts let people slide, BH doesn't let anything slide. JAT/Kel being mod killed for small reasons, and I have been warned several times in BH games, so I will say that Bh is at least fair across the board. But most hosts aren't and it is a bit frustrating for the player base to have to deal with. My temporay modkill was the most ridiculous mod action I have ever seen. It took several people to berate him to unmodkill me even after he noticed his mistake. BH modkills before thinking.
But also one of the most hilarious moments in any game....it made me laugh though if it happened to me I wouldn't think it was funny.
The main point I was trying to make was bh doesn't differ between players even if he is a bit mod kill happy.
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Blazinghand
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Okay, it looks like there's some concern about the fact that rayn has been banned twice before, and I totally understand and share that concern. I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of Rayn getting a 5 game ban. Rayn should obviously NOT get a 5 game ban. I think this is a way in which the ban list has failed us in the past. Luckily, now that I'm here to actively manage things, I can make changes.
So, new rule:
When someone is put on the "removed from the ban list" list, they will be removed after 6 months. For example, if someone is banned for something, then sits a game out, they're on "removed from the ban list" until 6 months later. This prevents the case of someone getting banned once in the distant past, shaping up, then slipping later and getting over-punished.
Pretty sure rayn's most recent ban was like a year ago (late december 2014 I believe) so he's not on "removed from the ban list" any more. He gets a 1 game ban. Most people seem on board with "Rayn should get just a 1 game ban" so I'm going with that.
1 Game ban is approved.
On November 19 2015 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On November 19 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:
It is ridiculous that Rayn can potentially get a 5 game ban for a 1 game offense.
That is so broken its not even funny. Yes. 1 game was requested and 1 game he should get. Doesn't matter. I wont play anything except for invite only games anyways since HtS and Blazinghand are hosting around 70% of the games here anyways and i don't think either of those people are reasonable hosts based purely on their capabilities of judging the games they host.
We could always use more hosts! If any of you guys want to help out with the hosting I'm always glad to host less. I'd say about 90% of the reason that I host as much as I do is that I look around and see that nobody wants to host games for some reason. People seem stressed and nervous about it nowadays, when it's actually modestly fun. Let me know if you're interested in hosting games, rayn. Be the change you want to see! You've always seemed a good host to me (I don't remember you ever hosting poorly) so please consider hosting more going forwards.
I'll be updating "removed from the ban list" over the course of the next couple of days to bring it in line with the new rule. My goal here is to reduce the length of these bans since they're clearly not helping us by being too long.
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On November 19 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:
The main point I was trying to make was bh doesn't differ between players even if he is a bit mod kill happy.
Yeah i agree with this. Except when it's him <-> someone as we have seen here. 
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 19 2015 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:
The main point I was trying to make was bh doesn't differ between players even if he is a bit mod kill happy. Yeah i agree with this. Except when it's him <-> someone as we have seen here.
Again, the host of my game did not request a ban on me. If he did, I wouldn't make a call on it, I'd refer it to Foolishness. Please talk to Foolishness about this issue.
All the rayn-related issues are now closed.
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On November 19 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:On November 19 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:
This isn't to say that all hosts let people slide, BH doesn't let anything slide. JAT/Kel being mod killed for small reasons, and I have been warned several times in BH games, so I will say that Bh is at least fair across the board. But most hosts aren't and it is a bit frustrating for the player base to have to deal with. My temporay modkill was the most ridiculous mod action I have ever seen. It took several people to berate him to unmodkill me even after he noticed his mistake. BH modkills before thinking. But also one of the most hilarious moments in any game....it made me laugh though if it happened to me I wouldn't think it was funny. The main point I was trying to make was bh doesn't differ between players even if he is a bit mod kill happy.
I can laugh about it now but I was raging pretty hard when it happened.
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On November 19 2015 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2015 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:On November 19 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:
This isn't to say that all hosts let people slide, BH doesn't let anything slide. JAT/Kel being mod killed for small reasons, and I have been warned several times in BH games, so I will say that Bh is at least fair across the board. But most hosts aren't and it is a bit frustrating for the player base to have to deal with. My temporay modkill was the most ridiculous mod action I have ever seen. It took several people to berate him to unmodkill me even after he noticed his mistake. BH modkills before thinking. But also one of the most hilarious moments in any game....it made me laugh though if it happened to me I wouldn't think it was funny. The main point I was trying to make was bh doesn't differ between players even if he is a bit mod kill happy. I can laugh about it now but I was raging pretty hard when it happened.
lol that game
#noughsaid
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On November 18 2015 21:46 Koshi wrote:
This game is finally over [T][M] Resistance V - Section 31
we all got together and decided since it was resistant and not mafia your still banned sorry
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On November 19 2015 03:24 Blazinghand wrote:Okay, it looks like there's some concern about the fact that rayn has been banned twice before, and I totally understand and share that concern. I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of Rayn getting a 5 game ban. Rayn should obviously NOT get a 5 game ban. I think this is a way in which the ban list has failed us in the past. Luckily, now that I'm here to actively manage things, I can make changes. So, new rule: When someone is put on the "removed from the ban list" list, they will be removed after 6 months. For example, if someone is banned for something, then sits a game out, they're on "removed from the ban list" until 6 months later. This prevents the case of someone getting banned once in the distant past, shaping up, then slipping later and getting over-punished.Pretty sure rayn's most recent ban was like a year ago (late december 2014 I believe) so he's not on "removed from the ban list" any more. He gets a 1 game ban. Most people seem on board with "Rayn should get just a 1 game ban" so I'm going with that. 1 Game ban is approved. Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 19 2015 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On November 19 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:
It is ridiculous that Rayn can potentially get a 5 game ban for a 1 game offense.
That is so broken its not even funny. Yes. 1 game was requested and 1 game he should get. Doesn't matter. I wont play anything except for invite only games anyways since HtS and Blazinghand are hosting around 70% of the games here anyways and i don't think either of those people are reasonable hosts based purely on their capabilities of judging the games they host. We could always use more hosts! If any of you guys want to help out with the hosting I'm always glad to host less. I'd say about 90% of the reason that I host as much as I do is that I look around and see that nobody wants to host games for some reason. People seem stressed and nervous about it nowadays, when it's actually modestly fun. Let me know if you're interested in hosting games, rayn. Be the change you want to see! You've always seemed a good host to me (I don't remember you ever hosting poorly) so please consider hosting more going forwards. I'll be updating "removed from the ban list" over the course of the next couple of days to bring it in line with the new rule. My goal here is to reduce the length of these bans since they're clearly not helping us by being too long.
I think there should be a way just like with the warnings, ie if you play five games (instead of three for the warning system) with no action you are moved/removed as well.
(Game number is up to interpretation)
Oh yeah, almost forgot my
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On November 19 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 21:46 Koshi wrote:
This game is finally over [T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 we all got together and decided since it was resistant and not mafia your still banned sorry
I like you
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So how come your gonna cherry pick and change the rules now but when I was sitting out 5 games it was ok?
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 19 2015 07:57 Coagulation wrote:
So how come your gonna cherry pick and change the rules now but when I was sitting out 5 games it was ok?
Ah, my apologies Coag-- I don't remember when I made this decision about a ban for you, I'm fairly certain it must have been GM. As I noted, one of the downsides of having GM manage the banlist is he didn't have enough time to make changes like this when they were necessary. I'm sorry I didn't start taking care of the ban list earlier so I could help you. However, you have my promise that I will continue to do my best.
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Cut the bullshit I want to speak to your manager. I want ban credits I can spend in games.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 19 2015 08:09 Coagulation wrote:
Cut the bullshit I want to speak to your manager. I want ban credits I can spend in games.
I categorically refuse to give people free passes to disrupt games. If you're not pleased with this, take it up with foolishness or something
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On November 19 2015 07:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:On November 18 2015 21:46 Koshi wrote:
This game is finally over [T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 we all got together and decided since it was resistant and not mafia your still banned sorry I like you
sucking up wont get you off the banlist
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As coagulation lawyer I demand him under the slam rule to be able to post in 5 games he's not part of as compensation of this great injustice.
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I personally think that history should have zero influence when determining the length of bans? History can come when looking at a player for the permanent or semi-permanent ban list.
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