TL Mafia Ban List 3.0 - Page 22

On November 20 2015 17:57 boxerfred wrote:
Seriously what is it with slam hes so strange

On November 20 2015 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

My problem is i have tried that multiple times, being less of a dick and generally cut down my posting, and guess what happened?

I had zero credibility and got scumread regardless of the content i posted because "rayn is playing differently" and "this is not his town meta". There are alot of people who have zero idea what meta in mafia games actually means, and how to read people based on meta. Also usually those same people base their reads purely on meta (or "meta"), regardless of the content (or lack of it) the player in question posts.

One good example of this is Titanic VII and yeah, after that game i -- again -- decided i don't want to try to be nice to people i don't want to be nice to. So hey, i guess certain townies in that game, you can thank yourselves! (and i am not saying i am blaming anyone, but that's where it comes to basically)

I know i am aggressive, and i know i am annoying. But that has nothing to do with me being "out of line" as some people seem to be suggesting here. I hate dealing with things i find to be stupid, and i will always try to lynch what i consider stupid, just because stupid has the highest chance of losing the game for the town in the end -- it really does. People who refuse to read the thread throughout the game and people who use dumb reasoning to call other people mafia are most likely either mafia, or if they are not, their play will lose the game anyways (so technically they are still mafia ). There is probably a reason why my played games list where i have lived to the end of the game as town (LYLO, multi-LYLO's, or not) looks like this for the last two years:
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So yeah, when i want to lynch people who make cases like (and this is not to flame anyone, it is just my honest opinion):
"you are angry"
"you are too nice"
"you are in thread at the same time as someone else"
"you are lying" (when i EBWOP the "lie" in the next post of mine)
"seems like a bus" (first post in the game)
...i want to lynch them, and i will push it. Just because in my opinion it is ridiculous to even suggest something like that could POSSIBLY EVER make someone mafia.

Another thing is i don't find it constructive (=any use) to talk to people who make such "cases". Just because it is most likely the most unproductive thing to do in a game -- talk to someone who can't make any logical conclusions. There is no way to convince them otherwise, just because you can't attack their argument as there is none. Not to even mention everyone else will usually not even believe them. But when i actually DO talk to them, at first i usually really try to be nice. But at some point my patience wears down, that's obviously my fault -- but yeah, i am an emotional person, and i do take certain things emotionally.

I really loved playing the NSM games and i have loved to coach new people in said games. Many people in those games (talking especially about new people) are really fun to play with / see them play as they are "immune" to meta on them, and them trying to meta other people. They are actually playing the game and reading the content in thread instead of having shit tonereads (now i don't mean tonereads are shit -- i mean even if you have a good toneread, if you are the only person making the read you are never gonna convince anyone about that read, just because there is no concrete basis behind the read). Most older -- well i guess i should say "semi-new" -- players forget that. And i don't like that kinda games, or rather that kinda reads in games.

So.. I know i sometimes go over the line (like in Resistance), i admit that. I don't admit that i am toxic, at least in a sense certain people (especially HtS) try to argue here. I don't care if people who i consider bad at this game or people who purposefully refuse to play the game or people who disagree with me and end up in a shitfest(s) with me call me toxic because i want to lynch them (i am not pointing towards anyone here). Because i want to lynch stupid as -- as i said -- stupid is going to lose the game anyways for the town if they are not mafia, and yes, as i said, when said people -- when i try to reason with them -- act as a dick towards me, i will be dick towards them. Always. If someone considers that too harsh or toxic, i couldn't care less. But that doesn't make it true. I like helping people to play better, if they want my advice, but i cba to help people who don't want / take my advice.

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So yeah, still. I want Half the Sky to answer me in what i asked her to provide to support her argument. This is not about me, because i find myself being treated unequally in comparison to other people, and i find her accusations unjustified until she provides the evidence to her said "case".

It's a really shitty thing to accuse someone of something HtS without evidence to back that up. So please, provide the evidence or kindly, fuck off.

On November 20 2015 18:57 marvellosity wrote:

1/5

not a single marv reference

On November 20 2015 16:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Simply told me, would have left long ago.

Deep VayneAuthority joke, and NSA joke.

Xanatos gambit joke, adore! joke, pomp jokes, all misunderstood. Always misunderstood.

Random joke old slower than I thought but still pretty fast. Became synonymous, almost an identity.

Language jokes, old faster than I thought.



Passive agression and toad-eating, always. Inescapable.


Façade after Façade.

Hypocrisy runs wild, slow of wit snarks.

Backbiting continues.



Elder: "there's no way they actually enjoy your company."
Younger: "they said they do? Why should they bother claiming to enjoy me if they don't? They know me well enough by now to know I won't try to guilt them..."
Elder: "no. It's either pity, or because you are their court jester, or some mix of both. You are nothing. You are a waste of flesh and everyone else's time. In fact, be glad I told you and leave me alone about it now."
Younger: "you're full of it. If I really bother people, they tell me. The (redacted) actually enjoy having me around!"
Elder: (leaving) "you are their court jester! At best! And you are nothing, I swear, don't expect to be anything. You are nothing!"

2 months or so pass

"You know... You used to be really funny. But now, seriously, you just aren't. Please go."

By the 10th time or so he stopped trying.

Then he found the Internet, and a nice girl...








"I never actually liked you... ...I hope you find a good person. You will make a great husband for someone! You never know!- oh, uh, are you done? I was going to meet with my sister, so, uh, bye."


"maybe she is just ditsy or outright stupid... How could she not know how patronizing that is? How could she be so uncaring and even downright rude and racist, yet be such a nice person in many vulnerable times and with surprising integrity? No, she must not be that smart. I know she is nice..."

Then he discovered exactly how brilliant she is.

Then the Internet betrayed him as had those people he had met in the course of his life.



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On November 20 2015 21:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Am I the crazy old person yelling at the kids on his lawn that everyone politely ignores? Feels bad man.

On November 20 2015 23:51 Damdred wrote:
I thought Marv was the old man around here?

I mean, he's grouchy
Yells lots when people annoy him
Has a hard time getting it up in mafia games..

I mean doctors do make fixes for these things we just want our old guys happy.

On November 20 2015 23:51 Damdred wrote:
I thought Marv was the old man around here?

I mean, he's grouchy
Yells lots when people annoy him
Has a hard time getting it up in mafia games..

I mean doctors do make fixes for these things we just want our old guys happy.

On November 21 2015 00:05 marvellosity wrote:

Deleted 2 entirely inappropriate responses and now I can't think of anything to say that's fit for public consumption.

*grumbles*