EPTOn November 19 2015 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:
I can laugh about it now but I was raging pretty hard when it happened.
I can laugh about it now but I was raging pretty hard when it happened.
that's because you're a pussy
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
that's because you're a pussy | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
To hear you use that kind of language is shocking. | ||
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
Clever. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 19 2015 10:34 Damdred wrote: As coagulation lawyer I demand him under the slam rule to be able to post in 5 games he's not part of as compensation of this great injustice. #bannedlivesmatter | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 19 2015 03:24 Blazinghand wrote: We could always use more hosts! If any of you guys want to help out with the hosting I'm always glad to host less. I'd say about 90% of the reason that I host as much as I do is that I look around and see that nobody wants to host games for some reason. People seem stressed and nervous about it nowadays, when it's actually modestly fun. Let me know if you're interested in hosting games, rayn. Be the change you want to see! You've always seemed a good host to me (I don't remember you ever hosting poorly) so please consider hosting more going forwards. What are the remaining 10%? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
9% to modkill 4 people in 1 game while replacing the most notorious flamers twice in 1 slot 1% to find new torture methods for ISIS | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
It's a bit of an exaggeration, but of course the rest of the reason is that I find hosting rewarding. You're welcome to join in as well, Koshi. You're an experienced player and I think you have a lot to bring to the table as a host. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On November 20 2015 03:13 geript wrote: TBH, part of me getting banned less (alot less at that) has been me taking an active step to curb the asshole part of my personality. I'm honestly far from perfect, but I've recognized that the amount of asshole I think I'm putting out is different from the amount of asshole other people perceive coming from me. I get that everyone has bad days and shit happens, but can't we as a hole recognize that how we perceive ourselves isn't the same as how other people perceive us and just be a little nicer to each other. My problem is i have tried that multiple times, being less of a dick and generally cut down my posting, and guess what happened? I had zero credibility and got scumread regardless of the content i posted because "rayn is playing differently" and "this is not his town meta". There are alot of people who have zero idea what meta in mafia games actually means, and how to read people based on meta. Also usually those same people base their reads purely on meta (or "meta"), regardless of the content (or lack of it) the player in question posts. One good example of this is Titanic VII and yeah, after that game i -- again -- decided i don't want to try to be nice to people i don't want to be nice to. So hey, i guess certain townies in that game, you can thank yourselves! (and i am not saying i am blaming anyone, but that's where it comes to basically) I know i am aggressive, and i know i am annoying. But that has nothing to do with me being "out of line" as some people seem to be suggesting here. I hate dealing with things i find to be stupid, and i will always try to lynch what i consider stupid, just because stupid has the highest chance of losing the game for the town in the end -- it really does. People who refuse to read the thread throughout the game and people who use dumb reasoning to call other people mafia are most likely either mafia, or if they are not, their play will lose the game anyways (so technically they are still mafia  ). There is probably a reason why my played games list where i have lived to the end of the game as town (LYLO, multi-LYLO's, or not) looks like this for the last two years:+ Show Spoiler + [N] Thug Life Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 6 [M][N] Really Small Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2 [M][N] Default Suspicions Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 4 [M][N] III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition Town Vigilante Survived Day 3 [M][N] Twitterverse Mini Mafia Town Arab Spring Protest Survived Day 3 [M][N] VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Town Vanilla Survived Day 5 [M][N] Office Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 4 [M][N] Mafia Mini Mafia: a miniature game of mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2 [M][N] Lost But Not Forgotten Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2 [M][T] Tropical Storm Mini Mafia Town Wanderer Survived Night 2 [M][N] Battle of the Drams Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 3 I excluded Cell 1 and SOTW II from here since i don't consider them normal mafia games because of the lynch/soup mechanics So yeah, when i want to lynch people who make cases like (and this is not to flame anyone, it is just my honest opinion): "you are angry" "you are too nice" "you are in thread at the same time as someone else" "you are lying" (when i EBWOP the "lie" in the next post of mine) "seems like a bus" (first post in the game) ...i want to lynch them, and i will push it. Just because in my opinion it is ridiculous to even suggest something like that could POSSIBLY EVER make someone mafia. Another thing is i don't find it constructive (=any use) to talk to people who make such "cases". Just because it is most likely the most unproductive thing to do in a game -- talk to someone who can't make any logical conclusions. There is no way to convince them otherwise, just because you can't attack their argument as there is none. Not to even mention everyone else will usually not even believe them. But when i actually DO talk to them, at first i usually really try to be nice. But at some point my patience wears down, that's obviously my fault -- but yeah, i am an emotional person, and i do take certain things emotionally. I really loved playing the NSM games and i have loved to coach new people in said games. Many people in those games (talking especially about new people) are really fun to play with / see them play as they are "immune" to meta on them, and them trying to meta other people. They are actually playing the game and reading the content in thread instead of having shit tonereads (now i don't mean tonereads are shit -- i mean even if you have a good toneread, if you are the only person making the read you are never gonna convince anyone about that read, just because there is no concrete basis behind the read). Most older -- well i guess i should say "semi-new" -- players forget that. And i don't like that kinda games, or rather that kinda reads in games. So.. I know i sometimes go over the line (like in Resistance), i admit that. I don't admit that i am toxic, at least in a sense certain people (especially HtS) try to argue here. I don't care if people who i consider bad at this game or people who purposefully refuse to play the game or people who disagree with me and end up in a shitfest(s) with me call me toxic because i want to lynch them (i am not pointing towards anyone here). Because i want to lynch stupid as -- as i said -- stupid is going to lose the game anyways for the town if they are not mafia, and yes, as i said, when said people -- when i try to reason with them -- act as a dick towards me, i will be dick towards them. Always. If someone considers that too harsh or toxic, i couldn't care less. But that doesn't make it true. I like helping people to play better, if they want my advice, but i cba to help people who don't want / take my advice. So yeah, still. I want Half the Sky to answer me in what i asked her to provide to support her argument. This is not about me, because i find myself being treated unequally in comparison to other people, and i find her accusations unjustified until she provides the evidence to her said "case". It's a really shitty thing to accuse someone of something HtS without evidence to back that up. So please, provide the evidence or kindly, fuck off. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 20 2015 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I had zero credibility and got scumread regardless of the content i posted because "rayn is playing differently" and "this is not his town meta". There are alot of people who have zero idea what meta in mafia games actually means, and how to read people based on meta. Also usually those same people base their reads purely on meta (or "meta"), regardless of the content (or lack of it) the player in question posts. I really loved playing the NSM games and i have loved to coach new people in said games. Many people in those games (talking especially about new people) are really fun to play with / see them play as they are "immune" to meta on them, and them trying to meta other people. It's not the perfect solution, but have you considered smurfing for a game or two? At least that forces players to evaluate you based on your posts, rather than some preconceived perception they may have. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
I could also never smurf based purely on how i post lol. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Ban less not more if you want this sub forum to survive. Keeping very good players like Rayn from playing here only harms the players and the environment of this sub. You want to get good at the game, learn to get on rayns level. If he flames you, learn to discuss or flame him back so that you can either agree to disagree, or find some common ground within the game. I have never, ever, ever had a problem playing with rayn, in fact he is an absolute pleasure to play with, This includes multiple times when we are on opposite teams, He has lynched me and I have lynched him and we have never had a problem. If Rayn is a problem for you it's probably because you are a bad player. Blazinghand you need to take several steps back. Just approve the actually necessary bans like Robik or maybe Koshi if he cries every-time he plays. And FFS stay out of the hosting decisions of others, it looks really bad when you are contributing to ban decisions that you then go on to approve. The goal is for people to actually play the game right. When so much time and effort is put into preventing people to play in an already dying subforum then I don't know what the fuck you are thinking honestly. The bans are becoming much too punitive. The point is to prevent the games from being ruined. Not to protect your feelings. If you are not banning people who literally don't try at all but are banning very good players who want to play and try to win because you are bad at conflict resolution and you get sad when people call you things on the internet then you should probably just learn to handle that better or stop playing. If you ban rayn he will just go somewhere else and this forum will be worse for it. Oh and the double standards are real. | ||
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Vivax
22027 Posts
darthpunk - medic - you are the tlmafia ban list white knight. you protect the innocent from the tyranny of the ban list and its iron fisted rule. your butt hurt preventative skills are so extensive you can save a player each night from fatal butt damage. + Show Spoiler + On January 02 2014 12:28 DarthPunk wrote: Amazingly people mostly just play mafia at Omgus. Not very well admittedly. But they do try, bless them. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Deep VayneAuthority joke, and NSA joke. Xanatos gambit joke, adore! joke, pomp jokes, all misunderstood. Always misunderstood. Random joke old slower than I thought but still pretty fast. Became synonymous, almost an identity. Language jokes, old faster than I thought. Passive agression and toad-eating, always. Inescapable. Façade after Façade. Hypocrisy runs wild, slow of wit snarks. Backbiting continues. Elder: "there's no way they actually enjoy your company." Younger: "they said they do? Why should they bother claiming to enjoy me if they don't? They know me well enough by now to know I won't try to guilt them..." Elder: "no. It's either pity, or because you are their court jester, or some mix of both. You are nothing. You are a waste of flesh and everyone else's time. In fact, be glad I told you and leave me alone about it now." Younger: "you're full of it. If I really bother people, they tell me. The (redacted) actually enjoy having me around!" Elder: (leaving) "you are their court jester! At best! And you are nothing, I swear, don't expect to be anything. You are nothing!" 2 months or so pass "You know... You used to be really funny. But now, seriously, you just aren't. Please go." By the 10th time or so he stopped trying. Then he found the Internet, and a nice girl... "I never actually liked you... ...I hope you find a good person. You will make a great husband for someone! You never know!- oh, uh, are you done? I was going to meet with my sister, so, uh, bye." "maybe she is just ditsy or outright stupid... How could she not know how patronizing that is? How could she be so uncaring and even downright rude and racist, yet be such a nice person in many vulnerable times and with surprising integrity? No, she must not be that smart. I know she is nice..." Then he discovered exactly how brilliant she is. Then the Internet betrayed him as had those people he had met in the course of his life. + Show Spoiler + Epilogue. I actually hope you don't understand that. If you do, I don't want it. It is actually really insulting now, in the present context. Don't send it. I have met some families with members too young to not show exactly what they think of me. Though it hurts too because it shows me exactly why and how much I love and desire kids, (like, of my own) it is worth it because they genuinely love me. Not the erotic bullshit that brings fakes like her who lie to weasel their way out of uncomfortable situations and are so selfish that they literally see you suffer in front of them and act as if they are unaware- and that badly- but real, brotherly and sisterly love that is totally conditional but doesn't play games and put up pretense and prolong your unawareness of their displeasure. It is that same love that sharpens a man to a point, makes him better because he is plainly told what is wrong with him. It is the simple type of love that nicknames you "pancake feet", in such a way that it's not insulting, and that outright says "you know, a lot of the time you smell really funny- like, you smell really sweet but there is this weird smell too, like your house smells but way stronger and it isn't good, on you it is way worse though". It's because 사윤 isn't going to run into BO in Korea XD hence she will neither run into deodorant, because there is simply no need for such a thing. 채손 explained, I was laughing too hard and too busy apologizing- and thinking about improving my shower routine... And if that was the real reason 규 paid for sauna... 😅 But man, it's still tough because nothing keeps 소준 from saying "yeah, Miss Josie too. She is just like (slam). It's really funny!" Poor kids. They've already married us off. Olivia and 사윤 were giggling and joking about the same. Probably thought I couldn't hear, or couldn't guess it, or kind of wanted me to hear and guess... I am encouraged by their parents too. When you tutor kids, there are no secrets between you and their parents. Or, well, there is no toad eating anyway. I was tempted to ("my parents almost got a divorce last night!" Right in front of all his friends, with a popular dad who a lot of people know... Smh. That was an awkward meeting... We explained that all married people fight, and divorce was far from their minds (sorta) fortunately. One can see they're a happy couple, happy enough that a simple argument made the Yet I still can't trust them. In other words, yeah it sucks being me. Models fall over me, but I know all of them would recoil as soon as they really met me. Pure torture and it looks like heaven from the outside. But I have found my niche; and it really was never that bad. Just a bit lonely and demeaning. So don't feel bad... But I will not return. I may perhaps lurk at times, and I might post. But I am pretty much gone. FWIW I might be posting in games; gotta tl ban people for that shit. Get it together! Call our resident German Yoshi, the KadaverBB man! He is awesome and online a lot. Finally, ironically, I agree with Marv nearly 100%. Koshi, your logic is very good but logic requires perfection. Here is the imperfection in your analogy: online, there is no such thing as race or class; only behavior and seniority. So, the real analogue is to people in the workplace. In that case, your analogy warrants this reply: Welcome to the Real World, my friend. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash. Grab dat towncred with both hands... Pink Floyd joke! Someone had to have got that one! Too popular to be missed! Oh yeah and obviously (though I am observing them) I am not studying your reactions to me for research XD Anyone can see I am too emotional for that. I am genuinely in this thing. Ah, I was anyway. That was the VA joke... Does anyone get it? Grackaroni?.... | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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