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Message Blazinghand if you request a ban please ^_^
Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 18 2015 07:32 GMT
#341
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 18 2015 08:26 GMT
#342
this discussion feels dumb tbh
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
November 18 2015 09:31 GMT
#343
Since my decision seems to have come in for some criticism, I'll just say the following. Resistance/Mafia is supposed to be fun, or at least enjoyable. In my view, rayn's unnecessarily aggressive and demeaning statements towards HTS created a toxic environment. I do not want to give up so much of my time to run a game, just for certain players to utterly ruin the experience for others.

I also do not agree that another warning would have been sufficient. Rayn is a smart guy, and he had already been specifically warned for exactly the same behaviour that he was modkilled for.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
November 18 2015 09:33 GMT
#344
And as TT pointed out already, I was not in the game that Rayn seems so upset about. And I am totally oblivious to the context of any comments made by anyone else. Rayn clearly knew that what he said was wrong, and he said it anyway to make some sort of point. Putting that sort of agenda ahead of treating your fellow players with respect is wrong.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
November 18 2015 10:20 GMT
#345
(I should say that he was warned via PM, and notification of that warning was given in the thread.)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 10:46:11
November 18 2015 10:44 GMT
#346
On November 18 2015 15:17 Onegu wrote:
My 2 cents.

We are getting to harsh. What I have read of rayn was it bad, sure, was it ban worthy I dont think so. Behavior bans should be only given out to people like robik.

Rayn you knew you were pushing the limit. And the fact that you knew you were is kinda fucked up.

F word dude. You gave 1 warning and then a modkill right. I dont think this is enough. First step is warning in thread, second step is a PM to try to calm things down. Then a modkill with maybe even another warning. The post you banned for wasnt ban worthy imo. First off that post isnt something you would warn for. The only reason it is bad was because he was warned already. But that doesn't matter. The post you banned him for wasnt out of line in language at all.

I think we are going to far in banning people. Yes this is coming from the guy who banned koshi. But he was warned in thread 2 times and in PM's 2 times before I banned him. If you PM'd rayn when he made that post you banned him for and was like. Rayn you are pushing me and you know you are pushing me. I like you but you need to chill out or I will modkill you and go for a ban. And when I go for a ban you have previous bans your ban will be very long. This is your final warning, I wont let you test my authority anymore. If you go back into the thread with anything that could be considered warnable will result in your immediate modkill and ban.

1 time in the thread. 2 "times" in PMs
Dnu why you need to lie about that lol.

+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From Onegu:
Youve been modkilled

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Koshi:
You are a joke. There is nothing to fucking talk about.
Have fun modkilling another 10 people in this game.
Because people will forget to fucking vote in the night.
Not this night.
But the next one.
Or the one after that
Or the one after that

And you fucking ruined your game.

And now you can't fucking not modkill anybody anymore.

It's over.

Game is fucking done for me.

Original Message From Onegu:
If you want to bitch at me in PMs I am happy to hear you out. This is my first time hosting. But if your going to keep shiting up the thread we are going to have a problem. I apoligize. I will be 100% honest with you I didnt see he voted in thread. If I had I wouldnt have modkilled him. But its over now. Keep it up in thread we will have a problem. In PM land Im happy to hear you out.

Original Message From Koshi:
That DOESN4T HELP WHEN THEY ARE AFK NOW DOES IT???????


HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF WARNINGS???? WHAT DID ALAKASLAM DO THAT AFFECTED THE GAME THAT HE NEEDED TO GET MODKILLED????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????






He forgets to vote which didn't affect anything.




AND YOU KILL YOUR MAIN CHARACTER AND A 22 HP TOWNIE.



WHAT A JOKE.





Original Message From Onegu:
Dude we sent warnings to everyone not voteing hours before deadline.

Original Message From Koshi:
What post game???????????????????????????????????????????????????

There is nothing to talk about.


FUCKING LEARN TO WARN

Original Message From Onegu:
post game

Original Message From Koshi:
There is no excuse for this kinda hosting. 0 fucking excuse.

Fucking should have warned.

You ruined your own game.

Pathetic.

Original Message From Onegu:
I put it in the replacement thread nobody responded

Original Message From Koshi:
Do you even know that replacements exist?


My modkill could have happened, could also not have happened. Dnu what would have happened after a night of sleep.

Fact is. I got a 3 game ban for a modkill that affected that game just as fucking much as a guy who forgot to vote, and you modkilled 3(?) people for that? But NOBODY GOT A SINGLE BAN OR WARNING except me, I got all the days ban for all the modkilled people together or what?

Same shit with BH, he modkills 4 people in 1 game, replaces 2 people, and then bans 1 guy....



WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY RUINING THE GAME BY
1) Being a host and making mistakes in set-up, wrong modkills, etc
2) Not giving a single fuck and afk, not vote, etc
3) Not following a rule and getting modkilled
4) Being emotional, about the fuck ups, about others, about language, yourself, pressure etc


Because in the end all 4 change the outcome of a game drastically, but only the emotional people who most of the time are invested in the game get insane fucking bans.


It's a fucking joke.

But the system works guys. Really. Great job.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 18 2015 10:52 GMT
#347
the more koshi rants, the more convinced i am the system actually does work
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 10:52 GMT
#348
Fact is:
You made a fucking huge mistake Onegu and I mildly flamed you for it ingame. Which is against the rules.
So you modkilled me, and then gave me a 3 game ban. Then you proceeded to modkill a total of 4 people that game I think. Maybe 1 more, maybe 1 less.

1 guy who didn't follow 1 rule got a 3 game ban. 3 guys who didn't follow 1-2 rules got a 0 game ban.


Same for so many other games. People blatantly don't follow the rules and get no ban, no warnings.



BUT THE FUCKER WHO DARED TO POINT OUT A HOST MADE A FUCKING SHITTY MISTAKE.

KILL THAT BITCH WITH ALL THE FIRES.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 11:03:06
November 18 2015 10:53 GMT
#349
On November 18 2015 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
the more koshi rants, the more convinced i am the system actually does work

Doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. I will rant again next time. Depends
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 10:55 GMT
#350
The system is 100% unfair.

So if you lynch every black guy who commits a minor crime and blacks commit less crimes due to that the system is 100% perfect marv? Even if all the whites commit the same crimes?


You dumb and silly guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 10:56 GMT
#351
Every other retard while reading previous post
"But Koshi... You can't make comparisons like that. "
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 11:01:26
November 18 2015 10:59 GMT
#352
Just read BH his post in which he says I should have gotten 4 games ban.


Then we will look at all the next fucking bans and modkills in the future.



We will watch. And see. Why your ban system is a fucking piece of shit joke.

EDIT: Well... I don't really care. Because the people who ban others are jokers and do the opposite what they should do in the future anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 18 2015 11:00 GMT
#353
nice, i got 5 posts out of it! ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:04 GMT
#354
Oh you make posts and then want people to not answer them at all.

That makes sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:04 GMT
#355
xcept that everybody knows you actually believed that shitpost you made.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:07 GMT
#356
I mean, games end by host modkilling people and then those people don't even get a fucking ban.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 18 2015 11:08 GMT
#357
Personally my thoughts about the ban system (if we're being srs) are that it's used too punitively. This infraction or that infraction means you have to get this number of games or whatever. I think 95%+ of the time i have argued about bans, i have argued to lessen whatever the ban was. marv2softie

Where I do think the ban list is useful is keeping certain toxic attitudes out of games, serious, repeat ones like Robik. I don't really read your posts you've been making in this thread since your ban and thought "well, we made a mistake keeping this guy out of our games, didn't we?". The shittier your posts have been and get, the better a decision it looks to keep you out of games.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:09 GMT
#358
People talk after deadline (they thought they were dead) and confirm themselves town --> get modkilled --> No ban --> No complains

Alakaslam talks after he died -> Doesn't affect the game --> 2 game ban and some wanted life time ban
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:16 GMT
#359
On November 18 2015 20:08 marvellosity wrote:
Personally my thoughts about the ban system (if we're being srs) are that it's used too punitively. This infraction or that infraction means you have to get this number of games or whatever. I think 95%+ of the time i have argued about bans, i have argued to lessen whatever the ban was. marv2softie

Where I do think the ban list is useful is keeping certain toxic attitudes out of games, serious, repeat ones like Robik. I don't really read your posts you've been making in this thread since your ban and thought "well, we made a mistake keeping this guy out of our games, didn't we?". The shittier your posts have been and get, the better a decision it looks to keep you out of games.

The banlist was intented to be a tool to improve future games.

But then it became something to punish people if they broke elementary rules that don't affect future games at all.


But then it became something to punish people if they broke elementary rules that don't affect future games at all really harshly if the judges don't like them and ignore people they like or if the hosts/judges feel lazy.


Nothing that happens here is to make future games better. Nothing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2015 11:19 GMT
#360
"hey guys I really didn't give a fuck about that game and I really don't give a fuck about any of the future games" -Some battleship-


BH:
1 game ban seems fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
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