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On August 13 2015 03:56 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 08:16 ruXxar wrote:
@Deconduo can I get some reads from you? I mentioned before that VE is the only scum read I had, but here's a more thorough breakdown: Rayn: Almost certainly town. He's kinda taken the lead a bit, and has been vocal about pushing ruxx. Don't particularly agree with his case, but his attitude is good. Artanis: Pretty sure he's town. Vivax: I like a couple of his posts, feels townish to me. Bit of a dick though  Trfel: I like his post on RS at the start of the game. RS: No real read, but trfel's original post is enough to put her slightly on the town side for now. Palmar/prpl/chez/damdred/hopeless1der: Meh, nothing from them really yet. Ve: I've said a few things before about him, but in addition, a lot of his posts just seem forced. Voting for him. ##Vote VisceraEyes
Where's Ruxxar?
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Why don't you have a read on Ruxxar in that post deconduo?
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Don't know who to vote for atm.
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I'ma just see where Palmar leads me.
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Similar to the one on hopeless.
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Didn't give other options as much thought as I did to Ruxxar and only 3 people I know of have expressed a wish to lynch him.
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On August 13 2015 08:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Rayn's case on ruxxar felt so similar to this one: + Show Spoiler +On March 20 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:![[image loading]](http://i59.tinypic.com/23kwugm.png)
I'd lynch you for bringing that up
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I have no idea who to vote for between decon and hopeless in terms of who is mafia (they both feel like a crapshot), but I know that of the two I will be able to expect more content from decon if I look at their D1.
So I'm gravitating towards voting hopeless.
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On August 13 2015 08:44 prplhz wrote:
i'm rolling with this decon thing mainly because rso and artanis look townie enough. personally i think it's a shot in the dark but it seems like it's the best we can do today.
I don't have a townread on them for now, since we can't kill Ruxx and both possible wagons don't seem to have that much foundation besides inactivity we might as well go for the pragmatism and kill the one who did less during the day.
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On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.
The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.
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On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless. The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one. So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later? The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.
I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.
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On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless. The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one. So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later? The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless. I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch. I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless. If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?
I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches.
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On August 13 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 09:12 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless. The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one. So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later? The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless. I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch. I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless. If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory? I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches. I don't understand why you wouldn't use all the information you have available to try and choose the person most likely to be scum. It sounds like you're just being lazy.
I am, cause these are not my favourite lynches. Spent all day on my lynch and I'm not getting it, so I don't have to explain to you why I pick one over the other with you suggesting I should have deeper reasons for my choice when I really didn't.
That's the entrapment: You ask of me if deconduo's posts are fine for me now as if it meant something for my choice when I have never even taken his posts into consideration. I've read through both of them and decided for myself that I would prefer another lynch, but I can't get it so I'll find a reason that affects the future game (how active I expect them to be). If I had a reason for one of them being mafia then I would use that and not this practical decision.
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I'm not letting Artanis off the hook after what he did yesterday when he tried to move me to Decon using my own posts as a tool.
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I think prpl is town and I fully agree with the spreadsheet thingy. I didn't mention this yesterday but I found that case to be even too tinfoil for my taste. It was well designed and presented but there wasn't that much behind the marketing. In fact it just felt like marketing.
I'm trying to rearrange reads and a hopeless flip would help immensely, he is indeed very passive compared to his townie standard. I can say that more confidently now that enough time has passed.
I think after him I'd look more closely into Artanis and VE.
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On August 13 2015 20:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 20:38 Vivax wrote:
I think prpl is town and I fully agree with the spreadsheet thingy. I didn't mention this yesterday but I found that case to be even too tinfoil for my taste. It was well designed and presented but there wasn't that much behind the marketing. In fact it just felt like marketing.
I'm trying to rearrange reads and a hopeless flip would help immensely, he is indeed very passive compared to his townie standard. I can say that more confidently now that enough time has passed.
I think after him I'd look more closely into Artanis and VE. What happened to your Damdred and Ruxxar reads?
Damdy wasn't a read, it was a Palmar sheep. Ruxxar is on ice while I evaluate what happened yesterday, he wasn't on the decon wagon.
So now that you know that your assumption about decon not being voted as a basis for the scumread has been proven wrong, where has the mafia been yesterday?
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On August 13 2015 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 20:46 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 20:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 13 2015 20:38 Vivax wrote:
I think prpl is town and I fully agree with the spreadsheet thingy. I didn't mention this yesterday but I found that case to be even too tinfoil for my taste. It was well designed and presented but there wasn't that much behind the marketing. In fact it just felt like marketing.
I'm trying to rearrange reads and a hopeless flip would help immensely, he is indeed very passive compared to his townie standard. I can say that more confidently now that enough time has passed.
I think after him I'd look more closely into Artanis and VE. What happened to your Damdred and Ruxxar reads? Damdy wasn't a read, it was a Palmar sheep. Ruxxar is on ice while I evaluate what happened yesterday, he wasn't on the decon wagon. So now that you know that your assumption about decon not being voted as a basis for the scumread has been proven wrong, where has the mafia been yesterday? I presume some hopped onto the Deconduo wagon. If it's Hopeless, mafia is likely within the pool Rayn has outlined. I still need to take a more detailed look at the vote count though.
Look at rsoultin then (yes I know I'm looking everywhere). Rereading Ruxxar he actually mentioned the valid point of how she always included hopeless in the lynchables and then towards EoD she somehow removed him from the preferences saying she wants to lynch decon or prplz.
She shrugged off Ruxxar pointing that out claiming he should read better.
On August 13 2015 05:18 rsoultin wrote:
can we lynch prp or condor plz? if i bat my eyelashes real pretty?
i think i prefer prp just cause i know what his games look like, and condor's just objectively scummy to me, but really i'd be happy with either
Previous posts don't make it clear to me why she doesn't want hopeless to be dead any more
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On August 13 2015 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH TINA WHY DO YOU TEMPT ME EVIL TEMPTRESS?!?!?!?!?
And this reaction by VE just leaves me wondering what's so tempting in that post.
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But hopeless did have reads ?
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Alone the fact that your heuristic turned out to be whether he has reads or not based on what Damdred said makes your decision look pretty bad tbh.
So who are you scumreading now rso?
What about VE being tempted by that something you wrote
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