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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 05 2015 18:52 GMT
#69
/in
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 12:25 GMT
#177
I have a feels-based suspicion of Artanis
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:08 GMT
#211
I prefer not to push Artanis, I'm pretty comfortable with him doing nothing when he doesn't have to.

Vivax hasn't mentioned anything other than Artanis so i guess something about his read on Artanis has to do with Trfel, because if he read Trfel as town he should not have a problem with Artanis atm.


Being a feels read, your assumption is wrong. Call it a tone read or whatever but when I read Artanis posts they didn't strike me in a townie way, doesn't have anything to do with Trfel.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:11 GMT
#217
The one thing that bothers me about Trfel is that he calls Chez including Damdred as if it's something then finds a valid explanation for himself that doesn't lead to "and this is why he's mafia/suspicious".

Chez applying the Chezinu rule must be new to him.

On August 11 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote:
You're boring.

Well, I'm a bit suspicious of him. Reason being that he included Damdred voting for Chezinu in his unofficial vote count.
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 14:11 Chezinu wrote:
Unofficial Vote Count


(1) Trfel - Chezinu
(2) Chezinu - Trfel, Damdred

Have not Voted: raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], rsoultin, ruXxar, Palmar, prplhz, deconduo, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, Vivax
I'm assuming the reason for this is Damdred saying that he hopes a vigilante shoots him:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 11:48 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
>> i don't suppose you have some magic xata-type way of reading a chez? i don't really remember you having one in ippo


kinda hope a big shoots chez XD so I can ignore him or hope he says smart things.
I just don't see this bothering a player with as distinct and stubborn of a playstyle as Chezinu. It feels a bit too sensitive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:14 GMT
#220
I might actually call this the day where I'm willing to apply the Chezinu rule. It's a common reaction for townies to scumread their scumreaders, it's also common to talk yourself into something if you feel like finding something (to the defense of Trfel). When you wield a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Also possible coming from townies, I'm awaiting Trfel (so you won't miss this) to tell me about his state of mind when he was trying to find reasons for Chez being scum.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:18 GMT
#226
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#228
I want to see how he comes back and says BUT TODAY I REALLY WANT TO LYNCH MAFIA, AND HERE IT IS and then we all sheep him and if he's wrong he can't berate our intelligence for the rest of the game, he might even be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:23 GMT
#233
On August 12 2015 01:21 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.


Hold your horses. What happened to attains?


I checked the OP. Rules don't state I have to discuss only one guy at a time for the entire day.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#239
On August 12 2015 01:24 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.


Hold your horses. What happened to attains?


I checked the OP. Rules don't state I have to discuss only one guy at a time for the entire day.


Lol, like you ever "discussed" artanis.


Call me scum with a neat case for it on top please?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:29 GMT
#243
What's up rux?

Can you show teeth when you claim that I didn't discuss artanis enough for your taste instead of slapping my Palmar push as a reason for being suspicious into the thread?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:33 GMT
#248
On August 12 2015 01:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:29 Damdred wrote:
I sorta like civax and probably wouldn't lynch him... So I guess you are left with hopeless if you want to sway me


I read his filter again and I liked him a bit better.


LOL really?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:36 GMT
#251
On August 12 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
What's up rux?

Can you show teeth when you claim that I didn't discuss artanis enough for your taste instead of slapping my Palmar push as a reason for being suspicious into the thread?


You say attains is scummy, but you don't want to push him since he's doing nothing.

Yet palmar is doing nothing and you want to push him.


And I explained why I'm doing what I'm doing for both of your points. So where's the problem? Feels to me like you're trying to find fake reasons to scumread me.

If you want to prove me wrong you have all the input required to show more properly what of that makes me scum, including the explanations for me not pushing Artanis and the explanation for wanting a wagon on Palmar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:41 GMT
#256
On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
What's up rux?

Can you show teeth when you claim that I didn't discuss artanis enough for your taste instead of slapping my Palmar push as a reason for being suspicious into the thread?


You say attains is scummy, but you don't want to push him since he's doing nothing.

Yet palmar is doing nothing and you want to push him.

So he's given a reason for players to be scummy which applies to two players, one of which he is "pushing" for scum and is apparently ignoring the other. Is that the gist of it?


I think you need some help too, my posts seem hard to comprehend.

I prefer not to push Artanis, I'm pretty comfortable with him doing nothing when he doesn't have to.


I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.


Now it would be different if ruxxy asked me to elaborate. But he believes I'm mafia for these explanations in what seems to be very shallow reasoning.

You don't push Artanis OOGA

You push Palmar BOOGA
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:42 GMT
#260
On August 12 2015 01:40 Damdred wrote:
Um sorta tempted to vote ruxxar


Same here, would you mind writing up your motivation?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:46 GMT
#266
On August 12 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:
I don't understand why you don't want to push artsnis. Explain why it makes you comfortable when he does nothing even if he's scummy?

yes this Vivax. I also want an answer to this.


My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.

Palmar on the other hand tryhards, or doesn't, as both aligments. But I prefer him when he tryhards either way. It would be awful if we let him just do nothing, also cause he's really entertaining when he plays.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:47 GMT
#271
On August 12 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:36 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
I think 1 of vivax and hopeless is scum.

They both pushing palmar.
I don't like it.

Well now I don't like ruxxar. I'm salty like that.


That's coo. Explain why you don't like palmar.

I like palmar. It'd be funny to lynch him though.


You think it's funny to lynch town?


I do, it's the best time killer in the world.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:50 GMT
#274
On August 12 2015 01:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he's not being a Mexican jumping bean this game and a few of his reads have felt a bit mechanical to an extent.

His reaction to me liking vivax was a bit odd aooon as someone thought he looked ok rux said nvm I like him to. Bit strange for him I need to think if it makes him scum though


The ooga booga reasoning didn't bother you? It's not even that much the reasoning itself as the way it feels like he doesn't want to commit when I try to pull a case on me out of him.

And of course the point you mention also has its validity. When he semi-agreed with you it felt as if he wanted to appease the bystanders by not opposing their opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:52 GMT
#277
On August 12 2015 01:51 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:47 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:36 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
I think 1 of vivax and hopeless is scum.

They both pushing palmar.
I don't like it.

Well now I don't like ruxxar. I'm salty like that.


That's coo. Explain why you don't like palmar.

I like palmar. It'd be funny to lynch him though.


You think it's funny to lynch town?


I do, it's the best time killer in the world.


I didn't ask you.


I'm testing your applied heuristic of finding mafia by seeing if they have fun lynching town.
Why not apply it now?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:53 GMT
#282
On August 12 2015 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:51 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:47 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:36 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
I think 1 of vivax and hopeless is scum.

They both pushing palmar.
I don't like it.

Well now I don't like ruxxar. I'm salty like that.


That's coo. Explain why you don't like palmar.

I like palmar. It'd be funny to lynch him though.


You think it's funny to lynch town?


I do, it's the best time killer in the world.


I didn't ask you.

I said it'd be fun to lynch palmar. Who said anything about town?


##scumslips

PALMAAARRRR
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 11 2015 16:55 GMT
#284
That's silly rayn.

Obviously not a scumslip either, but would be fun if it was.
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