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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 00:58 GMT
#890
She could be Mafia but it will be more apparent as the game goes on. She is an active player and we have plenty of information to discuss

We don't have on clarity of even hopeless
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:00 GMT
#892
On July 28 2015 09:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Followed by my top scum read scott

There is literally no way that this is a mafia response to a red check on a "townie"

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 09:01 scott31337 wrote:
Fucking Mafiabear I knew it


If he's mafia he immediately knows I'm fakeclaiming. He posts this within 1 minute of me posting my post. There is no way he considered the scenario so fast. That was a genuine post by scott.

I will NEVER lynch him this game.


Exactly, he knows you're fake claiming or you checked a Miller.

He guarantees a mislynch + when I flip town he goes against you if you're mafia.

Way better than trying to think about the claim
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:01 GMT
#894
EBWOP: if you're town*

He guarantees TWO mislynches if he supports your claim.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:02 GMT
#897
The fact that you're relying on rayn's read on her is very suspicious, I must say.

Do you know why Rayn called rsoultin Mafia in the first place?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:04 GMT
#899
On July 28 2015 10:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 09:57 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Followed by my top scum read scott

There is literally no way that this is a mafia response to a red check on a "townie"

On July 28 2015 09:01 scott31337 wrote:
Fucking Mafiabear I knew it


If he's mafia he immediately knows I'm fakeclaiming. He posts this within 1 minute of me posting my post. There is no way he considered the scenario so fast. That was a genuine post by scott.

I will NEVER lynch him this game.


Exactly, he knows you're fake claiming or you checked a Miller.

He guarantees a mislynch + when I flip town he goes against you if you're mafia.

Way better than trying to think about the claim

It's the timeframe that matters. He didn't reach that conclusion in 60 secs.



Dude, palmar, I'm Mafia and I see a red check on someone that isn't my partner = instant sheep. I won't even think before it.

I don't think your argument is strong enough, sorry
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:08 GMT
#903
On July 28 2015 10:06 Palmar wrote:
I can't believe you're actually both mafia but this page heavily suggests you might be


Please, palmar. You're scumreading rsoultin over WIFOM and associating it with me.

Rsoultin was pushing and is still pushing your main scumread clarity. Suddenly, you forget clarity and go against rsoultin. Why?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:11 GMT
#905
On July 28 2015 10:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're relying on rayn's read on her is very suspicious, I must say.

Do you know why Rayn called rsoultin Mafia in the first place?

do YOU know why rayn called rsoul mafia?


Yes, I do, and although I get where he is coming from, I can also see any town having that argument.

If I have someone saying complete shit about me, how can I trust his other reads? It DOES make sense, although is a very contrived argument.

I don't think it makes her Mafia. It's just an indicative that she could be.

My mind melded with her last night. She HAS a shot at being town. There are way better player to lynch. We can deal with deciding on rsoultin later.

Like you, hopeless. You're clearly reading. What are your reads and who you want to lynch?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:18 GMT
#909
On July 28 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote:
7/80

yeah, i'm not scum -_-

we should still lynch one of clarity/hopeless


I was about to say I want scott, but I just remembered tofu ninja voted him, which makes scott probably town.

Hmm...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:20 GMT
#910
On July 28 2015 10:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd lynch rsoul primarily because rayn said so.

I'm actually rereading FT and rayn right now and also trying to work out if theres anything from a votecount perspective for mafia trying to save FT

btw, rayn had rsoul AND palmar as mafia because they failed to see FT as scummy.


No hopeless. Rayn had rsoultin as Mafia because she said she couldn't trust his other reads because he was reading her as Mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:23 GMT
#914
On July 28 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
8/80

yeah of course scum is going to say sheep town!rayn on town!rsoul

you better fucking come up with your own reason for scumreading me or you're next when i flip town ^^


This is your worst post in the game tbh
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:26 GMT
#917
On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


proof or it didn't happen

i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel

like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?

i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?

here is why rsoultin is mafia.

I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments".

"I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here".

I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia.
She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough.

Palmar is also scum.


Here, hopeless.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:29 GMT
#919
On July 28 2015 10:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
8/80

yeah of course scum is going to say sheep town!rayn on town!rsoul

you better fucking come up with your own reason for scumreading me or you're next when i flip town ^^


This is your worst post in the game tbh


10/80

lynch me, then

and when i flip town

lynch fucking hopeless and clarity and if they're not scum look to palmar

i know i'm town

town may well play the part of stupid sheep, but his complete and utter lack of reasoning beyond rayn saying so is scummy as hell, and considering i wasn't townreading him before, i really could care less what you think about that post


So lynch palmar?

Why are you so defeatist instead of pointing out why palmar is scum and ACTUALLY trying to lynch him?

You're wasting your breath just to defend yourself and call people bad, dear. Let's catch scum instead?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:32 GMT
#921
Congratulations, you've made a Mafia team of 4 out of 3
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 01:35 GMT
#924
On July 28 2015 10:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Congratulations, you've made a Mafia team of 4 out of 3

that was a list of people i'd lynch....I know how to count GB


Oh okay. Because I don't and that's why I'm into humanities.

Well, since there aren't much people playing, I'll save my posts for later
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:02 GMT
#970
I'll just say that lynching Clarity is the key to find mafia in this game.

With tofu leading the lynch, there is certainly one mafia jumping in clarity's wagon if the is town.

And if he is mafia (which he may be), that's a lot better.

So, please, STOP discussing stupid WIFOM things and let's focus on facts?

God, it must be really bad when I, MYSELF, am asking YOU guys to NOT WIFOM.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:35 GMT
#972
Palmar, dude, you can't be town in this game.

You soft defended Tofu since the beginning of the game:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2015 18:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:
This is kinda scummy.

On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling.

On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something.

On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!

Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu


This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know.

Speak of the devil.

Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner."

Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here.

Here is why FirmTofu is mafia.
Especially the underlined part is something that is impossible for a townie to believe is true.


This makes FirmTofu dumb and bad. I don't know if it makes him mafia.


On July 26 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:
Like if we're lynching people for doing dumb shit we would have to lynch half the town, so I don't know if we should use that as a parameter. I'm really struggling with some posts to try to determine if they're from mafia or just lazy/apathetic/bad townies.

Also I'm tempted to lynch scott for this:

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


He claims to be using a spreadsheet to help him determine people's alignments, but some of the stuff here is just complete fucking bullshit and 100% made up. Like I don't believe anyone who keeps a spreadsheet would do it in this way. Also check this out, detective Palmar is on the case:

Things that bother me about the format of this thing:

  • I would have removed the numbers in front of the names (these are exactly from the playerlist)
  • There is no progression in the reads. This was all clearly written in a single sitting as evidenced by Glowingbear's commentary about his second part d1 looking better.


However on the other hand this is clearly copy pasted from a spreadsheet so if he is lying about using a spreadsheet he at least opened up google docs or something and pasted this in.

meeeeeeeehhhhhh~~~~

Maybe I should give him a pass based on that?

Don't know, it actually feels like I should.

It's so bad though...






You were the only one that thought my case on kelsier was entirely good and wanted to lynch him out of it, although you townread him earlier and no really new information on him got to the thread

On July 27 2015 04:17 Palmar wrote:
This kelsier case is actually good


You were okay to lynch clarity and now you completely forgot him to go against CLARITY'S MAIN PUSHER rsoultin basing your read out of a bad reaction testing that resulted in a conclusion that was COMPLETELY WIFOM.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 27 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:
Like technically I'm okay with you guys lynching FT so one of the following scenarios happen:

1) he flips mafia, yay!
2) he flips town, I can call all of you bad AND he gets punished for his shitty push on me.


Let's do better:

Who do you think would be the best lynch today and why?

clarity

Because he is not a dumbass and he is not trying to solve the game.


In other words, at Day1 you had this huge soft defense on FirmTofu and a big apathy for who was getting lynched, to reach the conclusion that you would lynch both Clarity and Kelsier (this last for a case that you liked and nobody else liked and even myself recognised later that only point two held water), but you had no firm or original opinion on Clarity nor on Kelsier. In fact, you TOWN READ Kelsier when I asked you to address to my points THAT, AFTER, I INCLUDED IN MY CASE LOL

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2015 03:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


I just don't think it's as relevant as you do. But I haven't actually gone back and reread Kelsier so maybe I'll come away with a different perspective when and if I do.

Like the conversation isn't all that difficult to follow. Yes it's a slight overreaction (scott probably didn't mean it in the way Kelsier took it) but meeehhhh....

maybe I'm wrong, who knows.



I don't trust a word you say in this game and you're most likely mafia. Every game I saw an active town Palmar, I saw a guy that had his own original scum reads and clearly tried to lead a lynch on them, something I'm not seeing here.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:44 GMT
#974
Town, we NEED to organise ourselves.

Onegu
Rsoultin
Kelsier
Snickers
GlowingBear
Scott


These are people that are OBJECTIVELY BAD to lynch today. We need to reach a conclusion. Please let's focus. Please, let's not derail in everyone screaming different names. These are people that SHOULDN'T be lynched today, objectively. Rsoultin could be mafia? Yes, she could. But objectively, her gameplay has no signs that she is mafia other than what rayn has brought to the thread. She's active, she's talking. We CAN deal with her in later days. We CAN'T deal with clarity/hopeless or even obi/boxer.

Have in mind I HAVE obi AND boxer on my townreads but they aren't OBJECTIVELY bad to be lynched. I will fight against their lynches, but my town reads on them are soft town reads.

Let's please narrow the discussion, at least for a while. I'd like people to comment on what I've brought on Palmar.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:46 GMT
#976
On July 28 2015 13:39 Snickers wrote:
well theres the worst post of the day so far


Snickers, those are the most damning points on Palmar. What is bad in it?

And just have in mind that rayn was shot and Palmar relied on his read on rsoultin to push her without even considering that rayn also had a scumread on him. Like, please.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:48 GMT
#978
On July 28 2015 13:47 Snickers wrote:
why are you pissed i have been voting palmar for awhile now.


So why my post is the worst post in the day?
You make no sense, dude...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 28 2015 04:53 GMT
#982
On July 28 2015 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 13:39 Snickers wrote:
well theres the worst post of the day so far


Snickers, those are the most damning points on Palmar. What is bad in it?

And just have in mind that rayn was shot and Palmar relied on his read on rsoultin to push her without even considering that rayn also had a scumread on him. Like, please.


The bolded I really didn't understand.
The cop thing was really weird tbh.


I think I phrased it bad.

He made the cop thing to scumread rsoultin.
Then he used the argument that rayn scumread rsoultin and he is GOD TOWN!11!!!1!!!1!

Unfortunately, GOD TOWN also scumread Palmar and he is not considering it. He picks from Rayn only what is important to his agenda.
You DO agree with me that relying on the confirmation that Rayn is town and had a scumread on his target is a very opportunistic argument, don't you? Especially when the same Rayn also had a scumread on Palmar. If Palmar was town, he would take a step back when using Rayn's scum read on rsoultin to back up his vote.
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