Newbie Student Mafia XIII - Page 7

On July 27 2015 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Scott if you are the vigilante i suggest you claim.

On July 24 2015 03:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Having read other games, seems like some people lose their heads in this game?

On July 27 2015 17:10 ruXxar wrote:


Breshke being forgettable is exactly how he plays town.
I played with him last game and I had a null read in him all game since I couldn't remember anything noteworthy that he did.
I was actually more suspicious of him when he was posting a lot at the start since it found that a-typical for him.

Will read his filter again later.

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:
Then you don't understand how thinking works. In what world does Mafia Flexes think you are a Vigilante, and roleblock you because he's afraid that you're going to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE VIGILANTE?? And in what world does Mafia n00bKing think that you are a Cop, and roleblock you because he's afraid that you're going to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE COP?? If the roleblock goes uncountered, then you're right on the edge of being completely confirmed Town. And yet you're STILL actively playing against the Town's win condition, by putting forth reasoning like this, and setting the stage for a mislynch on me.

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:
Actually, for me to ignore your scummy request is not suspicious at all. For you to MAKE your scummy request, that is what's suspicious. As I said, you're right on the cusp of being confirmed Town. But continue to push things that have EXCLUSIVELY scum motivation. Why would a Town player EVER ask me to cut the explanation of your lie down to 1 sentence, when I have already so thoroughly explained it through the use of more sentences? You're asking me to intentionally use poor communication, instead of good communication. If that's not scummy, nothing is, because it invites my words to be misinterpreted, or worse.

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:
You said that he thought long and hard before making the post, instead of being free of mind and just posting what he felt, and then said that you never said his remarks required thought, and admitted that his remarks are off-the-cuff instant reactions.

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:
Now, IF you are Town, then start talking like someone who at least has SOME minimal amount of interest in achieving the Town's win condition. And if you CAN'T help me achieve the Town's win condition, then at the very least, GET OUT OF THE WAY.

On July 27 2015 17:18 disformation wrote:
Just arrived at work. Short thought-dump / updates.



I think this is pretty much WIFOM. Can you make a case on either without relying on that?

On July 27 2015 17:23 n00bKing wrote:

It's so much worse than WIFOM. For his theory to make sense, the Scum team has to actually be playing against their own win condition, just for the *sake* of WIFOM. And the Day 1 lynch result hardly left them any room to be playing against their own win condition, in favor of being sneaky.

On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:

Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:

1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.

2
Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill.

Of course that is WIFOM, but dismissing that possibility like you're doing is completely ridiculous.

On July 27 2015 17:30 n00bKing wrote:

Oh hey look, you're misrepresenting my position. I am SO surprised. Read it again. I did not eliminate the possibility of the scum team thinking you might be a Cop or Vig. I only eliminated two extremely specific scenarios. One where Flexes is Scum and thinks you're the Vig, and one where I am scum and think you're the Cop. Every other scenario where you're a Vig or Cop can still make sense.

On July 27 2015 17:30 n00bKing wrote:
There is something else that I really want to add on this topic, which more strongly demonstrates how I'm right and you're wrong, but it should wait until after the game.

On July 27 2015 17:30 n00bKing wrote:

Your explanation was false. I'll just leave it at that, instead of rehashing the whole thing over again, while I wait to see if there's a counterclaim on your roleblock (though I don't expect one, because I can't understand why you would fakeclaim the block).

The explanation of how I can know it's a lie immediately followed the summary. But of course, you didn't respond to that part of my post. However, "I'll just leave it at that, instead of rehashing the whole thing over again."

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:
There you go. Your positions are incompatible with one another. And you could have admitted that you made a mistake instead of telling the lie, or you could have tried to say that it only looks like a lie because you changed your mind. But you never did. You only stood by the lie, and defended the lie.

On July 27 2015 17:31 n00bKing wrote:

I already upgraded him from Town to DumbTown. If Ticktock is Scum, I'll eat my hat.

On July 27 2015 17:36 Tictock wrote:
@ Rels
I was like certain (and it still confuses me) that scum would RB their NK in a setup with a Vet, so a no kill only made sense to me as a medic save.

On July 27 2015 17:39 Tictock wrote:
Rels you two...

I'm pretty close to not reading the posts you two make at each other.

On July 27 2015 17:36 Tictock wrote:


Not "the" veteran, "a" veteran. So I was thinking it was a weird "I'm a verteran (player)" joke

Clearly my mistake was thinking rayn would ever say something non-serious....

On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:

Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town).

The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker.

???

On July 27 2015 17:49 Tictock wrote:
@ Rels and n00b

When you are done with each other, could you please explain to me why we shouldn't lynch Moosy today?

On July 27 2015 17:52 n00bKing wrote:

Which is what I mean when I say that you continue to defend the lie.

On July 27 2015 17:13 Rels wrote:

Are you talking about this game

On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:

lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?