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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:42 Rels wrote: You would be missing a textbook lesson on "how to make a ton a posts nobody reads and pretend to contribute" by the king himself. Legit made me laugh. Carry on | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote: Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility: 1 noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check. 2 Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
When you are done with each other, could you please explain to me why we shouldn't lynch Moosy today? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote: Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:34 Rels wrote: It is WIFOM to eliminate these two scenarios. No. And I already said why. On July 27 2015 17:34 Rels wrote: Then don't talk about it ... I didn't. Why are you bringing it back up, if you don't want me to talk about it? On July 27 2015 17:34 Rels wrote: My positions are not incompatible with one another, as I've already said. Which is what I mean when I say that you continue to defend the lie. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:49 Tictock wrote: @ Rels and n00b When you are done with each other, could you please explain to me why we shouldn't lynch Moosy today? No idea ATM. I had a town feel on him. I don't like his "I am mafia" posts. Will see on rereading. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:37 Rels wrote: So your likely mafia team is Sulfu + Flexes or NM I think ? If there's a Vigilante in the game, you being roleblocked largely eliminates Flexes as a possible suspect. Sulfu + NM, and if one of those was wrong, I would look at maybe Breshke or Moosy. If it's a Cop setup instead, Sulf + Flexes, and if one of those was wrong, I would look at NM next. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:52 n00bKing wrote: Which is what I mean when I say that you continue to defend the lie. Then it's weird you're townreading me then. My rb claim can be wifomed, just like the scenario where you rb me. I feel like you prepared this read switch on me since yesterday. Will check that during rereading. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
To be clear: you think these two things are true: - I lied - I am town Confirm ? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote: I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? Seriously, your refusal to use reason and common sense is driving me crazy. Just STOP posting for a little while, THINK about what you've just said, and come back later. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game? One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible... Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already... Not liking this... | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote: lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:55 Rels wrote: Then it's weird you're townreading me then. My rb claim can be wifomed, just like the scenario where you rb me. Really? How? Neither one of those is WIFOM. They both make NO SENSE. Why would you, as Scum, claim being roleblocked here, if the real roleblock target would just counterclaim you? And if there is no other roleblock target, why didn't you just roleblock the player you attacked? The only way this makes any sense is if the roleblocker just failed to turn in an action at all, because he was afk or something, so that there was no roleblock in the first place. I would designate that as extremely unlikely. For you to fakeclaim a roleblock would be just as ridiculous as for me to roleblock you. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote: Ah btw another quick note: I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game? One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible... Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already... Not liking this... He was mafia in newbie XI and played exactly like that. I hard town read him for that, better townies lynched him and he was the GF. He was also GF in newbie XII, where he played more or less like that too if I remember correctly. Was lynched D1. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote: Ah btw another quick note: I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game? One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible... Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already... Not liking this... Meh. So Sulfurus is currently the one most likely flipping scum imo. As I mentioned earlier I need to check some other things... but let's go with this for now: ##vote Sulfurus | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:56 Rels wrote: @noobking To be clear: you think these two things are true: - I lied - I am town Confirm ? I *think* the second one is true. I *KNOW* the first one is true. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2015 18:02 n00bKing wrote: I *think* the second one is true. I *KNOW* the first one is true. That's the second thing you said just now that makes no sense to me. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote: I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? Again, Seriously, your refusal to use reason and common sense is driving me crazy. Just STOP posting for a little while, THINK about what you've just said, and come back later. | ||
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