EPTOn August 04 2015 08:10 geript wrote:
I read this game mostly in passing, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
I forget why I thought Barakos was a good lynch D1, but there was a really good reason that a bunch of people (even a vet or two) missed that someone had posted. Regardless, the result of his lynch (because it was so lopsided) should basically be ignored. It's both possible and probable that he was bussed so for the most part, no one should think that anyone on that wagon is town for being on or starting the wagon.
The NK was a good choice, but in games where roleblocking a Veteran prevents their bulletproof vest from going off, then mafia should heavily consider "burying" the RB on the NK. The setup is random equally split between Medic and Veteran, but it's usually correct to err on the side of Veteran because Medics do crazy shit sometimes; or Medics guess wrong. Another good reason to "bury" the RB is because this setup states that RB's are notified and should the NK flip anything but Veteran, then you can have a plan for mafia to claim the RB for town cred later.
The D2 lynch was really bad. I didn't keep notes, but I remember thinking that TickTock was almost assuredly town. That said, how both mafia treated this lynch was really terrible. It's fine to townread someone who's about to get lynched. But neither had a good reason for it and and both looked really terrible for it AND for not really organizing a counter wagon. The 5 off the wagon looked significantly more suspect than the 7 on the wagon.
Somewhere around here, Ruxxar got into a big fight with n00bKing and MoosyDoosy stepped in to townshield his read. There's nothing wrong with any of this. However, how n00bKing approached the situation was not how a towny would whatsoever. He didn't want to really explain things and the explanations he gave were really piss poor. In addition, he was quite happy to let Moosy townshield the hell out of him while n00bKing proceeded to do practically nothing except continue to stir the pot between Mossy and Ruxxar. 99% of the time, Moosy is just a townie with a really bad read that he firmly believes in and n00bKing is mafia. Also fwiw, I think there were some pretty decent points made in cases against n00bKing this day (I can't remember whose were the best but I think disinformation, ruxxar and Rels all had some good points).
D3 had a bunch of random things happen; not all of which I remember. But n00bking made a major mistake by not being on the nocturnemage wagon or not securing the sulfurous lynch. The 4-3-2 division where scum is lynched, generally means that mafia isn't on the wagon. So it basically stated that mafia was between Rels, disinformation, n00bKing and Ruxxar. Disinformation and Rels had both been really towny throughout the game. When you go back and look at the votes, Ruxxar's been wrong all game. Both n00bKing and NocturneMage were late on the D1 bus and then acted oddly around the D2 lynch. So the last mafia is probably n00bKing.
Regarding N3. So mafia chose to roleblock himself and apparently forgot that the rules stated that KP was hand delivered. If I were the host, I would've let the KP go through because there isn't any potential setup with a town RB/JK/tracker so KP is essentially factional. Even still, mafia should've roleblocked the cop and shot him; he'll be dead and you can claim whatever the fuck you want (although claiming the RB there is pretty dumb because it will convince no one). I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game because I find it hard considering thread sentiment and such that n00bKing wouldn't have been lynched; but he might have been able to avoid 1 day's worth of lynching.
Either way, I'll be hanging out in the TLmafia teamspeak channel for a while if anyone want to talk about the game some more.
I read this game mostly in passing, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
I forget why I thought Barakos was a good lynch D1, but there was a really good reason that a bunch of people (even a vet or two) missed that someone had posted. Regardless, the result of his lynch (because it was so lopsided) should basically be ignored. It's both possible and probable that he was bussed so for the most part, no one should think that anyone on that wagon is town for being on or starting the wagon.
The NK was a good choice, but in games where roleblocking a Veteran prevents their bulletproof vest from going off, then mafia should heavily consider "burying" the RB on the NK. The setup is random equally split between Medic and Veteran, but it's usually correct to err on the side of Veteran because Medics do crazy shit sometimes; or Medics guess wrong. Another good reason to "bury" the RB is because this setup states that RB's are notified and should the NK flip anything but Veteran, then you can have a plan for mafia to claim the RB for town cred later.
The D2 lynch was really bad. I didn't keep notes, but I remember thinking that TickTock was almost assuredly town. That said, how both mafia treated this lynch was really terrible. It's fine to townread someone who's about to get lynched. But neither had a good reason for it and and both looked really terrible for it AND for not really organizing a counter wagon. The 5 off the wagon looked significantly more suspect than the 7 on the wagon.
Somewhere around here, Ruxxar got into a big fight with n00bKing and MoosyDoosy stepped in to townshield his read. There's nothing wrong with any of this. However, how n00bKing approached the situation was not how a towny would whatsoever. He didn't want to really explain things and the explanations he gave were really piss poor. In addition, he was quite happy to let Moosy townshield the hell out of him while n00bKing proceeded to do practically nothing except continue to stir the pot between Mossy and Ruxxar. 99% of the time, Moosy is just a townie with a really bad read that he firmly believes in and n00bKing is mafia. Also fwiw, I think there were some pretty decent points made in cases against n00bKing this day (I can't remember whose were the best but I think disinformation, ruxxar and Rels all had some good points).
D3 had a bunch of random things happen; not all of which I remember. But n00bking made a major mistake by not being on the nocturnemage wagon or not securing the sulfurous lynch. The 4-3-2 division where scum is lynched, generally means that mafia isn't on the wagon. So it basically stated that mafia was between Rels, disinformation, n00bKing and Ruxxar. Disinformation and Rels had both been really towny throughout the game. When you go back and look at the votes, Ruxxar's been wrong all game. Both n00bKing and NocturneMage were late on the D1 bus and then acted oddly around the D2 lynch. So the last mafia is probably n00bKing.
Regarding N3. So mafia chose to roleblock himself and apparently forgot that the rules stated that KP was hand delivered. If I were the host, I would've let the KP go through because there isn't any potential setup with a town RB/JK/tracker so KP is essentially factional. Even still, mafia should've roleblocked the cop and shot him; he'll be dead and you can claim whatever the fuck you want (although claiming the RB there is pretty dumb because it will convince no one). I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game because I find it hard considering thread sentiment and such that n00bKing wouldn't have been lynched; but he might have been able to avoid 1 day's worth of lynching.
Either way, I'll be hanging out in the TLmafia teamspeak channel for a while if anyone want to talk about the game some more.
yo this doesn't say anything.
