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On July 12 2015 09:57 TJHuggins wrote: I think you're reaching a bit here. This post seems so opposite to everything else you've written this game. What gives? I don't think I agree with this sentiment TJ. I think I know what Fidei is trying to achieve with the question, but I'll let him sort it out. | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: Not particularly interested in something because I'm still waiting but whatever. I try and form who I think are the core of townies and work from there. I do tend to sheep cases in the earlier stages of the game but it's not because I'm mindless.  Something to keep in mind.And what if town are on the wrong track? How do we know you aren't taking advantage of that as scum? | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: You don't. Which is why things are interesting. :D I think in 18-19 hours' time let's see if you find the noose interesting. ##vote MoosyDoosy | ||
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If you're town you shouldn't be doing this. What do you think on the most widely (not just me) discussed potential scum if you aren't? (scott/nydus/sulfurus) | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:35 Grokken wrote: Also, I might have to change my stance on MD being town. his later posts seem rather suspicious as other people have pointed out. I don't really buy the "switching things up" claim. Also, the following seems contradictory: HtS proposed that we try to lynch the most scummy person rather than policy-lynching people for lurking, and rather use DT checks/VT shots for the lurkers, which seems reasonable to me. I listed the lurkers as potential lynch targets mostly because I didn't have any other scumreads. MD might be a better target for a day 1 lynch. You said in your FIRST assessment of him: On July 12 2015 06:22 Grokken wrote: MoosyDoosy: Has made some good posts in my opinion. In particular I agree with the following post: I was going to bring this up myself, but seems like you beat me to it. Although the defense is good, I think it would be better to just let me defend myself, especially because I haven't really posted much before now. MoosyDoosy is a townread for me. You pick up ONE post that was good but the posts that others commented on that were poor were also BEFORE you posted. The two posts called into question by others BEFORE your first assessment are: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488742-newbie-student-mafia-xii?page=8#160 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488742-newbie-student-mafia-xii?page=9#174 If you townread him for his posting in general, why did these posts pass you by? The second was about an hour before you responded so it's not likely you were ninjaed there. The switching things up argument was also made BEFORE your first townread of him. To me at first glance, this looks like you are blending in with the crowd once MD has been called out. | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:07 KelsierSC wrote: I will send out the message from my cabin but I see no reason to abandon my sanctuary to the "chaotic" game I created. Groken and Wp look like scum so far . Terrible list posts early in the game. How are they terrible list posts? Repeating here but newbies do that a lot. How is that outside the realm of possibilities for town? And for people legitimately entering the thread late what are your expectations? Additionally Grokken's posted more than that how much did you take that into account? How much of the WP read is OMGUS? | ||
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On July 13 2015 05:15 Sulfurus wrote: So as far as I am concerned Moosy has killed himself and talking about him is a waste of time, which ironically makes Kelsier the most productive town since he moved the conversation to something actually important. Anyway I noticed that HTS came to Grokk's defense against an accurate post on him even after calling Grokk out for blatantly reversing his read on Moosy just to fit thread sentiment. What's up with that? No, just no. Out of context much? There's a massive difference between questioning someone's argument on/for their target (which n00bking did too mind you) and defending said target. There was reason to question Kelsier over what he posted, and that is not the same as coming to Grok's defence. Just no, and your first sentence in that post is like you don't care about the lynch which screams mafia. The fact you aren't even lending your opinion re: MD when presumably you've had experience with him one way or another is also another red flag and I'm thinking you're just content to let him die if he's town. You haven't done jack all and that's not even considering that your first serious post in the game is actually scummy. n00bking might be on to something about that meta argument of yours. You haven't even passed judgement on some of the other players in this game. Maybe there's a solution to that...the noose. ##unvote ##vote Sulfurus | ||
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Sulfurus > MD/NHM (tossup) > Scott I shouldn't be talking about replacements...but there was a call for one for this game, and I'll just leave it at that. | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:04 silentwarrior wrote: Gonna vote for NydusHerMain. Right now, she isn't saying much at all, and left pretty suspiciously. I would rather her get lynched than MoosyDoosy, since he is actually active and contributing. That helps the town, even if most of what he says is bad and he is still high on my scumlist. However, not saying anything dosen't help much at all. Do you have any comments on the other top candidates? (sulfurus/scott) | ||
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On July 13 2015 05:40 Fidei86 wrote: I've got my vote in for Moosy, just in case my internet crashes or I get distracted or something. But I'll try and be around for EOD. I'd much rather lynch Sulfurus, NHM or Scott. Anyone willing to help with one of those? I'd prefer NHM, I think, but any of those would be fine. I cannot abide lurkers. Sulfurus is the most scummy lurker. | ||
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He's got a point here Kels, Anyone can parrot and continuous parroting is a problem but fundamentally if there's no original material, most list posts are actually null provided they aren't totally illogical, or something in that post isn't out of context (which is why SW was null to me as well on his first set of opinions). Now where is everyone, switching to Gaiden until I see more people....but I am here. | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:32 Fidei86 wrote: You're asking people to vote for you? You very rarely see town do that. Actually on average townies are more likely to do that than mafia especially in newbie games. Veteran games are slightly different but newbie games...but the fact that MD self-metaed already obviously negates all that. On July 13 2015 05:32 n00bKing wrote: Looking forward to half the players being mod-killed by Day 2, for failure to vote.  Just by the way, does anyone know of any decent websites for playing Mafia-by-Forum? This is honestly one of the best ones. Stick around for the veteran games, from what I can tell of your play, regardless of whichever alignment you are, you seem pretty cut out for the vet games, where people do take things a little more seriously. The thread on average moves slower in newbie games, that's just how it is. On July 13 2015 03:43 TJHuggins wrote: Can you explain to me how I am supposed to differentiate "shitty townie" play from Mafia play? The way your posts are reading to me now it sounds like you are a mafia resigned to their fate. If that's not the case then what is your play here? Do you have anyone you think is mafia? Anyone that you think is town? Any reasons for those reads? Any reasoning for why you have been writing/acting like a 14 year old for the last 12 hours? I'm going to be seriously upset if you are lynched and flip town because all that I will be thinking is: "What the fuck?" Honestly I'm fearing that, and ESPECIALLY with the afk votes, and the comment by Sulfurus.... WAKE UP PEOPLE. | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:31 TJHuggins wrote: Figured I would post where I am at before EOD (for obvious reasons). Here's a scum list for me right now in order: 1. MoosyDoosy 2. Sulfuras 3. Grokken Scott, NHM, and silentwarrior are all in a 3rd category for me which includes players that haven't impressed me with their content and have not left any last impact on me. Might be mafia, might be town. I would rather wait until day 2 to deal with this group since it may give them more time to provide content for me to figure out their alignment. Personally, I'd rather kill someone whos acting scummy than someone whos just a crap shoot (actually if this were video mafia I would pressure them and force them to talk but I can't really do that here.) If at EOD 2 I still have nothing on those three, I would advocate to shooting, cop checking, lynching them. I would caution against vig shooting or cop checking any of the lurkers this night because I don't think it will really help progress our scum leads much. A vig shot is better saved on a clearly scummy person (same logic as above) and cop check better on someone whos a bit more active. If there's a vig in the setup, shoot Sulfurus 100%. I'm waiting to see if there's more votes for the switch, but I'm fearing with the number of people just sat on MD and the last comment by Sulfurus, MD if town, made this an easy ML for the mafia, which is infuriating, especially for a D1 lynch. If there's a DT, check any of the lurkers/nulls - NHM/Scott/SW/WP And what specifically is the deal with Grokken from your end? | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:09 Half the Sky wrote: My preferred order atm Sulfurus > MD/NHM (tossup) > Scott I shouldn't be talking about replacements...but there was a call for one for this game, and I'll just leave it at that. | ||
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MD FFS SAVE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE TOWN. | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:50 n00bKing wrote: Unless you know more than what is bolded, your post could just as easily refer to Scott. Anyway, I have moved my vote to Sulfurus. Very true, I had Scott as null/policy lynch regardless but that just reinforces the case that both should probably be left alone. | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:52 n00bKing wrote: Believe that there are now 4 votes on Sulfurus. You/fidei/Kelsier/me. And in your 3 votes on Moosy, are you counting his own vote? Because it won't/shouldn't count. Grokken, Sulfurus, TJH Eagle hasn't voted I don't think. | ||
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On June 27 2015 13:22 Onegu wrote: Voting rules: 1. Voting is done by posting in the separate voting thread. Votes posted in this thread will not be counted. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Kavdragon or ##Vote Kavdragon. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion will not be counted. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself. 5. This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch. 6. The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; he has to have the most votes. 7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. Not to be persnickety... | ||
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On July 13 2015 06:56 Sulfurus wrote: lol this is the most OMGUS vote I've ever seen. I'm sure most people just saw a bunch of words in HTS's filter and assumed she was town without noticing the way she is just throwing out accusations until she gets something to stick. You realise there's not a shred of OMGUS in my argument and then again I scumread you BEFORE your last comment on me so that is also debunked. | ||
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On July 13 2015 05:15 Sulfurus wrote: So as far as I am concerned Moosy has killed himself and talking about him is a waste of time, which ironically makes Kelsier the most productive town since he moved the conversation to something actually important. Anyway I noticed that HTS came to Grokk's defense against an accurate post on him even after calling Grokk out for blatantly reversing his read on Moosy just to fit thread sentiment. What's up with that? Seriously how in the hell do you say something like this with the amount of time you had to sort him out? | ||
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I'd prefer it if you let Grokken speak for himself. This might have been the jail free card that he was looking for.
