On June 20 2015 03:51 Alakaslam wrote:
No I am a white boy. I can't know Spanish that good
No I am a white boy. I can't know Spanish that good
Lol can't even tell it's not spanish XP
Hail the almighty portuguez
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On June 20 2015 03:51 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On June 19 2015 15:35 GlowingBear wrote: On June 19 2015 14:34 Alakaslam wrote: Title is good Que lindo Você que é lindo! No I am a white boy. I can't know Spanish that good Lol can't even tell it's not spanish XP Hail the almighty portuguez | ||
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my classes end at that time this semester and a little after in the one about to start just one hour later i could do lol >< | ||
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On June 26 2015 20:18 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2015 06:46 Blazinghand wrote: On June 26 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote: Debating whether to drop out. The question is whether this game will fill up before 1 July - I'm on a short trip to Spain from the weekend of the 3rd to the 6th and there's noooooo way I'm playing mafia that weekend. xD If it starts after that, I will be fine. I'd love to play this one, or post myself as a replacement if it starts before that weekend xD If this game is slated to start on Independence Day weekend, I'll delay the start until Monday the 6th. July the 4th is Independence Day in USA. We celebrate declaring independence from the British and I will be far too drunk for game launch. And yes, I will be so drunk that I'll be drunk on the 3rd and the 5th as well. To be honest you guys had to fight a war to stop being a colony. The more clever way of declaring independence is to wait patiently until the Nazis capture your colonial overlords and then go "nananana we're free now and you can't do anything about it cause you are infested with the Nazis" our Nostradamus was indisposed | ||
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and i'm gonna be trying something different/kinda busyish anyway...you should thank me early for attempting to limit the spam in a 20+ player game xP pst damdy you're already part of it. didn't you know? o.0 | ||
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On July 06 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote: Sounds good how much can I afk without getting lynched again? roll the same alignment as me and hope i live awhile? xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:22 Clarity_nl wrote: PS me and holyflare can't both be scum, discuss. lol it mostly means if you're town you're pretty gullible, but sure | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote: Hi. I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong. Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance. but, but, but... this was our favorite! ;o; judas | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote: On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote: On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote: ##vote trfel Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? >> do you have anything in the way of reading comprehension? think it's pretty obvious what viva la vida loca is getting at | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote: So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn no, i'm the copcake! | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote: So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn no, i'm the copcake! ........... .......... xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:37 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote: On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote: On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote: ##vote trfel Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? >> do you have anything in the way of reading comprehension? think it's pretty obvious what viva la vida loca is getting at Yes I do... Starting this road already? You read LS pretty well, what do you think so far? lol when you post like you don't comprehend english? yes i read ls like shit lol >< but i have a truly trash tier way of reading him that i'm trying out, so i'll get back to people on that | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:39 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:34 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote: So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn That is a terrible role to claim Day 1 I don't even know what the hell is going on...... The part that has me actually is knowing about rayn with out playing with him before... who doesn't know rayn? xP but actually we were all playing voice mafia together yesterday with the copcake! \o/ | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:41 KelsierSC wrote: So I won my chess match quite quickly, I had a couple of celebratory glasses of wine and now the game can begin. let us fall down the rabbit hole and see what we may see smoke rings? o.0 | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:49 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 06 2015 07:34 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote: So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn That is a terrible role to claim Day 1 I don't even know what the hell is going on...... I'm sure you know all about that What you mean? I believe he is implying you have some experience with claiming roles d1. perhaps just maybe our last large themed game together where hf and i sneezed in your general direction? xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:51 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote: Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum? I not scum I swear by the thousand suns that I am 100% town bro. that book is so good, fucked up, but so good o.0 pssst what book is this, kels? | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote: Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Me on the other hand... In other news clarity tryhard as fuck, probably town. rofl aww, sweetie, you have no clue...i can read trfel even better than i can read damdy giant shiny-ass cases don't dazzle me | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:22 Breshke wrote: @clarity Hf could have easily thought of the investigator joke pre game I think it's not alignment indicative Also hi all breshke! <3! gonna be my devil's advocate again this game? | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're right there is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:27 KelsierSC wrote: rsoul are you giggling or laughing right now? xP isn't that up to you to decide? MUAHAHA! | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote: you are all boring scintillating yourself | ||
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so rude, wave chem work to do...maybe hf will actually liven up the thread in the meantime xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:01 KelsierSC wrote: rsol do you have a read on LS yet? couple things he's said this game i've only seen him say as town, so i'm leaning town on him slightly...not too sure, though lol >< | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote: Ls plz don't say too many stupid things. I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. ... this is weird phrasing | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: ah ye olde crack/weed/alcohol meta read lol apparently i'm not the first to think of it. it any good? it only just clicked for me last game | ||
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On July 06 2015 10:40 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 10:33 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 10:30 Harkon wrote: hereish i am interested in your POV , to quote the porn industry, at this point I don't have any reads I am willing to share. Thread has been boring so far. kinda weird. you have reads but don't want to share them? most of us just say we don't fucking know when we don't know xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: ah ye olde crack/weed/alcohol meta read lol apparently i'm not the first to think of it. it any good? it only just clicked for me last game it's pretty basic but works for him being town from my exp, i have another stupid meta read that i'm waiting on for him too yeah that's why i'm not married to it...too shallow to be terribly strong lol >< but for a preliminary read i guess it's okay | ||
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still deciding on whether or not i like the clarity push...i don't really get the logic on the "no way hf and i are both scum" bit marv could be scum agree to disagree on harkon ls xP but if he's new (and i think he is?) i can see the lack of reads and the weird thought process early, so will wait and see on that some other gut reads but nothing solid lol also @ oats: xPxPxPxPxP | ||
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On July 06 2015 13:36 geript wrote: Harkon's a smurf. Idc whose. But not new for sure. o.0 i wasn't aware? that changes things somewhat | ||
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On July 06 2015 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 13:31 rsoultin wrote: ksc, geript (w/ a grain of salt after joat lol) strongest townreads still deciding on whether or not i like the clarity push...i don't really get the logic on the "no way hf and i are both scum" bit marv could be scum agree to disagree on harkon ls xP but if he's new (and i think he is?) i can see the lack of reads and the weird thought process early, so will wait and see on that some other gut reads but nothing solid lol also @ oats: xPxPxPxPxP Hey you got it. Totes a scumtell lol completely foolproof, too! right up there with the hijoles and chupazis >> << xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 14:28 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:22 Breshke wrote: @clarity Hf could have easily thought of the investigator joke pre game I think it's not alignment indicative Also hi all breshke! <3! gonna be my devil's advocate again this game? Totally missed this. No i will try not defend people when i don't have a read on them. I'm learning as long as that doesn't translate into barely posting, should be fine lol >< disagree with anything in my reads post above? you've barely said a word | ||
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On July 06 2015 14:53 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 14:33 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 14:28 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:22 Breshke wrote: @clarity Hf could have easily thought of the investigator joke pre game I think it's not alignment indicative Also hi all breshke! <3! gonna be my devil's advocate again this game? Totally missed this. No i will try not defend people when i don't have a read on them. I'm learning as long as that doesn't translate into barely posting, should be fine lol >< disagree with anything in my reads post above? you've barely said a word I agree on KSC. Geript idk he called me 99% town early which could be understandable because he looked into my meta fairly extensively in the newbie game we played together and seemed to have a fairly good grasp of it. But ive played a few more games since then and i don't think my play has really changed that much but he doesn't even seem to consider that it could have like as in im fairly sure he hasn't looked at my recent games so im not sure why he would be comfortable calling me town. Can't really disagree on the marv thing he like playing town more than scum and if he does nothing for extened periods of time he is probs scum yeah. I dont care about harkon currently. Is there anything else to your LS read other than a few towntells. I almost went back to look at his scum games because i swear he has said the what are you smoking stuff as scum before but then ceebs. I do agree with damdred that this isn't LS's town meta. Him just dropping in and not attempting to do much i think is scum LS. I think i made a similar read on him last game and he was town but aside from that damdreds point feels fairly damming. no there really isn't anything else to my ls read lol >< i said it was trash tier for a reason, but i don't want to keep relying on other people to read him, if that makes any sense? i dunnae. i think it's pretty damn early to start scumreading ls for being "lazy," personally. or, rather, it certainly was at the time. if there was more to the scumread, maybe heh if there's anything that bothers me about geript it's his 100% he's throwing around willy nilly, but honestly he's arrogant enough for that, and i've liked the thought process behind most of his posting so far truffle wuffle, gonna play this game? xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:05 Trfel wrote: Huh? Wait, this isn't the Obs QT? Darn it, I thought I made a wrong turn somewhere. well, you know, not everyone has a good sense of direction ^^ | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:07 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I don't have any reads.On July 06 2015 15:05 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? LightningStrike and ruXxar seem a bit interesting, though. Maybe rsoultin... (I'm almost 20 pages back, though ) a truffle caring about an rsoul? that's interesting in and of itself | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:02 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 14:53 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 14:33 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 14:28 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:22 Breshke wrote: @clarity Hf could have easily thought of the investigator joke pre game I think it's not alignment indicative Also hi all breshke! <3! gonna be my devil's advocate again this game? Totally missed this. No i will try not defend people when i don't have a read on them. I'm learning as long as that doesn't translate into barely posting, should be fine lol >< disagree with anything in my reads post above? you've barely said a word I agree on KSC. Geript idk he called me 99% town early which could be understandable because he looked into my meta fairly extensively in the newbie game we played together and seemed to have a fairly good grasp of it. But ive played a few more games since then and i don't think my play has really changed that much but he doesn't even seem to consider that it could have like as in im fairly sure he hasn't looked at my recent games so im not sure why he would be comfortable calling me town. Can't really disagree on the marv thing he like playing town more than scum and if he does nothing for extened periods of time he is probs scum yeah. I dont care about harkon currently. Is there anything else to your LS read other than a few towntells. I almost went back to look at his scum games because i swear he has said the what are you smoking stuff as scum before but then ceebs. I do agree with damdred that this isn't LS's town meta. Him just dropping in and not attempting to do much i think is scum LS. I think i made a similar read on him last game and he was town but aside from that damdreds point feels fairly damming. no there really isn't anything else to my ls read lol >< i said it was trash tier for a reason, but i don't want to keep relying on other people to read him, if that makes any sense? i dunnae. i think it's pretty damn early to start scumreading ls for being "lazy," personally. or, rather, it certainly was at the time. if there was more to the scumread, maybe heh if there's anything that bothers me about geript it's his 100% he's throwing around willy nilly, but honestly he's arrogant enough for that, and i've liked the thought process behind most of his posting so far truffle wuffle, gonna play this game? xP ehh relying on others isn't always a abd thing but yes i understand you want to improve your read on him. Hav you said why you think ksc is town? lol reasons >< a lot of it is this looks similar to himalayas from him. some of it is the push on damdy, and some of it is that mix of goofing off with the more serious posting...so tonal xP typical rsoul | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Oh shush, you...On July 06 2015 15:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:07 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:05 scott31337 wrote: I don't have any reads.On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? LightningStrike and ruXxar seem a bit interesting, though. Maybe rsoultin... (I'm almost 20 pages back, though ) a truffle caring about an rsoul? that's interesting in and of itself Maybe it's a good thing we haven't played together for a few months lol xP good thing we weren't playing together in that newbie game you mean | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Townread me. o.0 are you trying a jedi mind trick? lol | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Talk about something other than mafia....On July 06 2015 15:17 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:11 rsoultin wrote: Oh shush, you...On July 06 2015 15:07 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:05 scott31337 wrote: I don't have any reads.On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? LightningStrike and ruXxar seem a bit interesting, though. Maybe rsoultin... (I'm almost 20 pages back, though ) a truffle caring about an rsoul? that's interesting in and of itself Maybe it's a good thing we haven't played together for a few months lol xP good thing we weren't playing together in that newbie game you mean How are those Spanish classes going? chemistry this semester -_- actually have to try to sleep soon even, blah talk about mafia now xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:22 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Oh, that sounds unpleasant.... Anyway, sleep is generally advised. Good night.On July 06 2015 15:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 rsoultin wrote: Talk about something other than mafia....On July 06 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:11 rsoultin wrote: Oh shush, you...On July 06 2015 15:07 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:05 scott31337 wrote: I don't have any reads.On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? LightningStrike and ruXxar seem a bit interesting, though. Maybe rsoultin... (I'm almost 20 pages back, though ) a truffle caring about an rsoul? that's interesting in and of itself Maybe it's a good thing we haven't played together for a few months lol xP good thing we weren't playing together in that newbie game you mean How are those Spanish classes going? chemistry this semester -_- actually have to try to sleep soon even, blah talk about mafia now xP I don't think that sharing my reads is beneficial until I read the entire thread, so no, I'm not going to talk about mafia fair enough lol >< later, then. slowpoke | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. heh, doubt it xP but i'll be more sure soon enough | ||
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-flicks hf- i'm awesome. admit it lolol >< you know you <3 me truffle | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. I will never back down from this You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun Just popping in to say that I know this feeling and it's happened to me before. tacit agreement without commitment alert! | ||
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last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this last game to vote on it this early? corrected | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:39 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? Oh puh lease This is the most horrible post ive seen. You might actually be mafia. lol don't give a damn xP it's bresh the way i know he's town is he's ridic slow on these things | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:42 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Him just dropping in and not attempting to do much i think is scum LS. I think i made a similar read on him last game and he was town This feels so unnatural to read that it kind of looks like you were forced to write it. or i was strugeling to word it in a way it made sense There's no way you missed this exchange rsoultin you're brilliant, really. cause that's totally what i'm referring to ^^ | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:41 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? dont act like voting is a big deal you know it isnt Also i voted because i liked damdys point which is separate to mine. welcome back xP keep pretending this is what my problem is | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:42 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Him just dropping in and not attempting to do much i think is scum LS. I think i made a similar read on him last game and he was town This feels so unnatural to read that it kind of looks like you were forced to write it. or i was strugeling to word it in a way it made sense There's no way you missed this exchange rsoultin you're brilliant, really. cause that's totally what i'm referring to ^^ It's exactly the same thing wtf are you smoking. "breshke writes that the read is wrong because ls was town but now he uses the read to think he's scum" it looks super forced You are saying the same exact thing which is redundant since it's been answered and you shouldn't have missed that exchange if you saw his vote in the first place ...i think i missed the vote somehow while reading the exchange lol >< regardless, it's not the same thing i don't give a damn about his wording | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:41 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? dont act like voting is a big deal you know it isnt Also i voted because i liked damdys point which is separate to mine. welcome back xP keep pretending this is what my problem is Im not. I don't feel strongly about the meta read i have on LS. You said how can i feel strong enough about it to vote LS. When votes especially early dont mean fuck all. I also said that i didn't vote because of my meta read but because of damdreds read. So what is your problem exactly? eh i still am not that comfortable with damdred's read -_- that's my main issue | ||
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On July 06 2015 15:52 Holyflare wrote: I mean it's pretty hilarious that someone can think they aren't the same thing when they get the exact same answer after all. Maybe she's just tired. Maybe mafia. Point is following me is better. i really don't feel that it's the same thing, but frankly the distinction is minute enough that whatever | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:01 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:51 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:41 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? dont act like voting is a big deal you know it isnt Also i voted because i liked damdys point which is separate to mine. welcome back xP keep pretending this is what my problem is Im not. I don't feel strongly about the meta read i have on LS. You said how can i feel strong enough about it to vote LS. When votes especially early dont mean fuck all. I also said that i didn't vote because of my meta read but because of damdreds read. So what is your problem exactly? eh i still am not that comfortable with damdred's read -_- that's my main issue Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote: eh last comment of the night i hadn't noticed breshke's vote until just now...dude, if you used that same read incorrectly last time you played with ls, why the hell would you feel strongly enough about a read that was proven false this game to vote on it this early? Nowhere in your intial post did you say you had a problem with damdreds read. You said you had a problem with my use of my own meta read even when it has been incorrect in the past. I don't like this rsoul -snorts- i don't really care to pursue this - i don't really like damdy's read - your meta on ls has already proven to be shit - somehow missed your vote and only noticed it in the voting thread pretty damn simple there, bresh | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:07 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, are you 100% sure that Holyflare's first post isn't alignment indicative? considering anyone can figure that out by reading the op and he's not an imbecile? xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Marvellosity hasn't played since Assassination Mafia, right?On July 06 2015 16:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:07 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, are you 100% sure that Holyflare's first post isn't alignment indicative? considering anyone can figure that out by reading the op and he's not an imbecile? xP ummm i think he played in that crock of a game...got? i don't remember | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:12 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Never mind, I Still Can't Believe It's Not Themed Mafia.On July 06 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 16:08 rsoultin wrote: Marvellosity hasn't played since Assassination Mafia, right?On July 06 2015 16:07 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, are you 100% sure that Holyflare's first post isn't alignment indicative? considering anyone can figure that out by reading the op and he's not an imbecile? xP There goes that. yeah lol that one >< zzz@hf | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:13 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, do you think that Holyflare is scum? not particularly xP | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote: But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds. Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good so basically it comes down to strength of agreement | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote: But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds. Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good so basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him xP could get that from reading the thread i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell | ||
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pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote: I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand. -_- i think i will, actually. the condescension is seriously pissing me off and this isn't going to go anywhere >< | ||
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i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation | ||
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On July 06 2015 22:32 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:25 rsoultin wrote: That would be productive? Not a snowballs chance in hell So nothing? Well what you think of HTS's Miller Claim? Don't care? It's how she plays that role and we all know it so zzz | ||
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On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. Nothing if you have the intelligence of a brussels sprout XP Xp xp xp xp What is that now? 30? | ||
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I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people | ||
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Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ | ||
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On July 06 2015 22:49 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people Keep dodging the issue. Okay yeah lol you can be a brussels sprout if you want ^^ the imitation is spot on | ||
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See. He's clearly not getting it. I don't expect that level of stupid from kels. Specifically. Kels. | ||
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I said hf prob scum and i'm retracting HARD giantess on Kels.. Tired of repeating myself, not do I have the time for it. Obv if he's scum that push is too stupid to.achieve anything anyway so why WOULD he hold onto.org? | ||
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Get rekt To the rest of y'all...learn to read | ||
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School I realize i'm not direct enough marv. What you fail to realize is that there are a good many ppl who understand me petfectly. After ippo you'd think it would click why I treat certain ppl differently when they can't get simple things like when I say i'm retracting a hard townread it's not the same as calling lack scum. It means geript is lonely in my top townreads slot | ||
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Not your first awkwardly worded post, either | ||
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July 06 2015 17:40 GMT
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On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. I will never back down from this You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote: I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what?Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit? Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter? I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game. On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote: I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand. On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote: What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!" There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why. "you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha" "shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing" not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously? On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote: But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds. Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good so basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him xP could get that from reading the thread i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote: or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol >< pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with: On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt...especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win again and again has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf | ||
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July 06 2015 17:43 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote: it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you want to post your posts in between that, pretty? lol >< are you trying to be hypocritical or does it just come naturally to you? | ||
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July 06 2015 17:44 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote: "oh hf totally misrepresented me defending trfel because look i didn't" (if i eliminate the posts from my filter where i do!) after you started shitting on me and trying to make it look like nothing i said was worth anything | ||
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July 06 2015 17:49 GMT
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ruxxar said that my posts were flustering him while soft-pushing suspicion on me then there's this post: On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote: Ls plz don't say too many stupid things. I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. yes, i'm keying in on the wording, but it doesn't make sense. why should he care if the reasons for the lynch are bad or not? that's odd. why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him? granted it's not the strongest read ever, but it looks worse than oats randomly thinking me spamming xPs at him is alignment indicative or kelsier going on some crazy stats dig -_- | ||
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July 06 2015 17:53 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:48 Harkon wrote: Rsoultin and HF. Please stop shitting up the thread with this unless you have new relevant arguments about someones alignment. Yes, it is weird how dismissive and condescending Holyflare is towards you, rsoultin. I am well aware of that. But instead of ranting about it try to find actual arguments for why what he says about Trfel is not true. If you are town you are not achieving anything by throwing a fit. HF stop trying to make her rage. It's the best excuse for her to avoid contributing meaningful things. now i'm not sure if i know whose smurf you are after all -_- bueno, that's not important truffle played like this in down under 2 and assassination, and i have no earthly clue what hf actually thinks to achieve by this unless he believes what he's saying, in which case he's not interested in truffle's alignment anyway because he's already made up his mind | ||
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July 06 2015 17:55 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:50 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: btw hts read the post again ruxxar said that my posts were flustering him while soft-pushing suspicion on me then there's this post: On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote: Ls plz don't say too many stupid things. I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. yes, i'm keying in on the wording, but it doesn't make sense. why should he care if the reasons for the lynch are bad or not? that's odd. why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him? granted it's not the strongest read ever, but it looks worse than oats randomly thinking me spamming xPs at him is alignment indicative or kelsier going on some crazy stats dig -_- i mean it wasn't that crazy, could have been important and it was better than watching marv and oats have a dick measuring contest. -squints at- do you realize the likelihood that there's any correlation to the number of times i xP in a thread and my alignment? and if you're such a stats man, me taunting oats with it already throws off your data anyway but i guess i can understand not being interested in the back-and-forth between marv and oats you're wrong, btw. should probably ask me what read i have on someone before making assumptions based on how i addressed someone in a single post; i'm not sure about damdy and it's irritating...i usually have a read on him by now | ||
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July 06 2015 17:57 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote: it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you want to post your posts in between that, pretty? lol >< are you trying to be hypocritical or does it just come naturally to you? I'm not sure how my posts in between are relevant at all since i'm not defending the stance that I was a dick. I'm saying I had a purpose and you repeatedly spewed tmi or an inability to see the direction of where things were going. If your read is null and someone is pushing something then I have no idea why you'd go in the opposite direction and defend them when your read is null. except my read is not null i was saying your argument was not alignment indicative i don't expect people to be able to get my tonereads or trust them | ||
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July 06 2015 17:58 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:57 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:48 Harkon wrote: Rsoultin and HF. Please stop shitting up the thread with this unless you have new relevant arguments about someones alignment. Yes, it is weird how dismissive and condescending Holyflare is towards you, rsoultin. I am well aware of that. But instead of ranting about it try to find actual arguments for why what he says about Trfel is not true. If you are town you are not achieving anything by throwing a fit. HF stop trying to make her rage. It's the best excuse for her to avoid contributing meaningful things. now i'm not sure if i know whose smurf you are after all -_- bueno, that's not important truffle played like this in down under 2 and assassination, and i have no earthly clue what hf actually thinks to achieve by this unless he believes what he's saying, in which case he's not interested in truffle's alignment anyway because he's already made up his mind no he didn't he did he irritated the shit out of me in down under 2 with like the entire rest of town | ||
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July 06 2015 18:00 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: then there's this post: On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote: Ls plz don't say too many stupid things. I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons. Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him? It's confusing me how you're unable to answer such an easy question in a clear and concise manner. Don't like that at all. oh god are we still on this? how do you people not get that i don't equate a town ksc with running off to do stats analysis on the number of times a player posts "xP" in a thread >< i don't think it outweighs the rest of his play. i'm not scumreading him for it. but it was odd enough to give me pause i don't care if oats does it. this isn't to be mean, but i hold different players to different standards. that's just reality | ||
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July 06 2015 18:02 GMT
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On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote: i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this | ||
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July 06 2015 18:03 GMT
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On July 07 2015 03:01 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:50 KelsierSC wrote: On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: btw hts read the post again ruxxar said that my posts were flustering him while soft-pushing suspicion on me then there's this post: On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote: Ls plz don't say too many stupid things. I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. yes, i'm keying in on the wording, but it doesn't make sense. why should he care if the reasons for the lynch are bad or not? that's odd. why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him? granted it's not the strongest read ever, but it looks worse than oats randomly thinking me spamming xPs at him is alignment indicative or kelsier going on some crazy stats dig -_- i mean it wasn't that crazy, could have been important and it was better than watching marv and oats have a dick measuring contest. -squints at- do you realize the likelihood that there's any correlation to the number of times i xP in a thread and my alignment? and if you're such a stats man, me taunting oats with it already throws off your data anyway but i guess i can understand not being interested in the back-and-forth between marv and oats you're wrong, btw. should probably ask me what read i have on someone before making assumptions based on how i addressed someone in a single post; i'm not sure about damdy and it's irritating...i usually have a read on him by now Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Me on the other hand... In other news clarity tryhard as fuck, probably town. rofl aww, sweetie, you have no clue...i can read trfel even better than i can read damdy giant shiny-ass cases don't dazzle me I mean these two side by side look like you have a town read on damdred. i don't | ||
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July 06 2015 18:03 GMT
#1193
On July 07 2015 03:01 Holyflare wrote: anyone is capable of trolling later in the game when they are frustrated or annoyed or whatever, something LEADS to that point to make them frustrated and post trolly shit you know what does that EARLY in the game? rolling mafia twice in a row after try harding as mafia previously there is 0 evidence that he ever plays this shit at the start of the game for no reason, even when he tried his posts were NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING like his posts as town in other games read the first bastardized down under and then come back and say this | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:05 GMT
#1196
On July 07 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote: i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this no thanks fine ^^ when can we lynch hf? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:07 GMT
#1199
On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote: All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself. Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS. i don't see how he can have a "lazy" read on ls that early i'm looking for the things that make him town but have yet to see them the post ksc keeps referring to was like my attempt to get a read on him :/ i don't agree with you on geript? i mean yeah he seems awfully sure but he was saying shit like that when we mislynched him in carnaval so i don't think it makes him scum | ||
rsoultin
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July 06 2015 18:08 GMT
#1201
On July 07 2015 03:05 Vivax wrote: Genuine effort to lynch HF rso but sadly that's one of the things you will never see on a D1. I feel comfy calling you town for it though. -_- 95% sure he's scum here. he only throws shit at me like this when he's scum but i know better than to beat my head against a fucking wall all day | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:10 GMT
#1203
On July 07 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote: All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself. Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS. geript has done nothing and has posted reads that don't make sense and are unexplained, it means nothing it's geript damdred focusing on ls so much is very weird but damdred's other scum reads are good and i'm waiting for his list of town reads ruxxar is so totally different from the last game i have no idea how people can scum read him ls has done nothing scummy yet to be scum read i'll admit that i could be wrong on ruxxar however i doubt he plays like he did last game when he was complaining post-game that i "cheated" because i coached him lol >< he knows he can't just filter-dive this time | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:12 GMT
#1206
On July 07 2015 03:07 Harkon wrote: Ok, rsoultin since you are so good at tonereads and apparently also a trfel whisperer. Do you really think a town Trfel would try this hard to derail the game? Why? It's not like he genuinely asked something he was interested in at the moment. He started multiple different attempts to lead the thread off topic. I can see no town motivation for this. I can see a scum motivation though. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 20:59 Harkon wrote: Trfel has been really awkward so far. It seems like he is desperately trying to seem casual and derail the thread. I wouldn't mind one of those questions but this just doesn't look genuine. On July 06 2015 15:11 Trfel wrote: Any thoughts on private versus public education systems? On July 06 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 rsoultin wrote: Talk about something other than mafia....On July 06 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:11 rsoultin wrote: Oh shush, you...On July 06 2015 15:07 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:05 scott31337 wrote: I don't have any reads.On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? LightningStrike and ruXxar seem a bit interesting, though. Maybe rsoultin... (I'm almost 20 pages back, though ) a truffle caring about an rsoul? that's interesting in and of itself Maybe it's a good thing we haven't played together for a few months lol xP good thing we weren't playing together in that newbie game you mean How are those Spanish classes going? On July 06 2015 16:42 Trfel wrote: Hey Holyflare, you noticed I got first place in the TL Mafia Fantasy Proleague group, right? On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote: Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game) At this point I think this is forced. i can see a town motivation for it but i'm not going to answer this for him lol >< i do the same things sometimes though not quite to the same extent | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:17 GMT
#1212
you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:22 GMT
#1221
On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote: harkon, what you got? you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore disregard i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular i could retrieve the post like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:25 GMT
#1226
On July 07 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I am, but Holyflare isn't going to get lynched today, so I see absolutely no reason to discuss it at this time.On July 07 2015 03:19 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 03:18 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote: Day 2, earliest.On July 07 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote: i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this no thanks fine ^^ when can we lynch hf? Are you scumreading HF? (or do you have any updates?) Rsoultin, why are you scumreading ruXxar? I believe that his play in this game is exactly the opposite of what you scumread him for in Himalayas. i don't expect that to ever work again? like i said, he basically announced hey guys! i don't interact as scum! while not interacting in our thread. later he started interacting but yeah...pretty obvious at the time. there wasn't any need to push him for anything else, although i did argue that there was no way he was the nk n1...also not relevant here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:36 GMT
#1244
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:39 GMT
#1252
On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote: i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:40 GMT
#1257
On July 07 2015 03:39 geript wrote: I'm not going to bother so long as you guys keep on ignoring oats. i don't know how to read oats reliably? so...yeh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:44 GMT
#1263
On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote: On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote: why is hf town marv? i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage? god. like 80%? normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it. like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet. like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh nh i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:45 GMT
#1264
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#1268
On July 07 2015 03:45 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote: On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote: On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote: why is hf town marv? i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage? god. like 80%? normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it. like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet. like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh nh i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess i did think he was town there, but for different reasons than i did here, it was just tonal (wrongly) although in my defence (not that i mind being wrong) i did start making it clear n2 that i preferred jat as the fight promoter guy rather than HF - that was the feeling bubbling up in my stomach lol okay >< i think i was too irritated at the both of you that game to notice | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:49 GMT
#1270
On July 07 2015 03:46 marvellosity wrote: like i don't expect anyone to take my read on HF as gospel, it's just my read and i'm happy with it right now don't worry. i'm not xP but i think you're town, so for what it's worth -shrugs- don't agree with you on trfel either but i actually don't think it's unreasonable for people to be scumreading him? i just don't like what hf's doing >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 18:54 GMT
#1280
On July 07 2015 03:50 Damdred wrote: Hey guys I got distracted while I was finishing things up at the house cleaning days are a bitch. ok I'll try to answer everything of I miss some things just quote them and I'll get them, or if you have a person you specifically want me to talk about I'll try to get to it. Firstly a list of people I am town reading currently: Ruxxor: last game we played together one of the things or a few things I caught him on was weird interactions with people suspecting them and then forgetting what he's typed. He seems to be a little more consistent with what he's said even if he is putting things a bit odd. Also tone wise he is way different, he seems a bit more relaxed and happier here while my experience with him as scum has been super angry sounding. Content wise he also makes a bit of sense with what he's posting so far. Marv: Mostly its a tone thing plus he seems really involved in everything going on. I like and understand how he's looking at the game. Kel: Has really put the work into the game so far that I would expect from a town kel, he has dug through posts in here and has kept brining things back up that he doesn't agree with and he keeps re evaluating as the game goes. Ie when I told him to checkour last game he did and changed a bit of what he said. Hf: I'm scared of him bit he seems a lot more involved early and seems to be pushing things from a good angle to me. He doesn't sound really stinky to me atm so I'm ok with him being town here. Hts is someone who I like at this point but don't have a firm handle on right now. For example I can understand the thought processes she uses in giving the reads and when others don't understand you can see a struggle to get people to understand it. Sticks to the guns but seems to really want to work with people to get them to understand the perspective. I think has a good shot at town palmar is a Toney thing and I like him but I always do. If anyone has any more specific questions about people not on my list ask. @kel currently in struggling with my rsoultin read. I'm of two minds whenever her and hf fight one of them is generally scum as they usually get along pretty well. But on the other hand she's so obstinante and doesn't care what people think shed just going to say whatever the hell she wants, that's a town trait to me of hers to. Overall I'm still thinking town but a couple of misgivings about her. heh at least you're not being all tunnel vision anymore >< how exactly can ls be "lazy" when the game has barely started? that's what i just don't understand | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#1383
better to just read eh, gut response is himalayas makes no sense with the claim here but i have no clue which games hf is referring to? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#1416
oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:34 GMT
#1420
i think i know who the smurflet is though i'm not sure...can't say i agree with the vivax/geript thing though i don't know how stupid it is? geript really has been pretty much ignoring vivax doing the viva tunnel, so i can see how he arrives there | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:35 GMT
#1422
On July 07 2015 07:35 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! This post is really weird, what are you trying to achieve here? read | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:41 GMT
#1428
On July 07 2015 07:40 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! xP over-compensation - extremely suspicious... Referring to above, are you referring to the xP overload or something else? Because it wasn't me who went off on the xP's - so what do you mean? i was talking to hts about her milo push i thought something that you'd posted, he'd posted ^^ it's actually literally that simple | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:43 GMT
#1430
On July 07 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote: HF dont' ignore me please, I went from a decent strong town read to now not in town circle. answer plox things I asked you didn't answer my question :/ bad hubby are you avoiding me on purpose? i asked how you get a "lazy" read off ls so early in the game? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:48 GMT
#1438
On July 07 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote: Maybe I'm expecting to much but you obviously are leaning one way on Scott currently and you have said that you played multiple times with him. Usually you would throw that meta and five me a preliminary call now you just lazily tell me you don't have enough. Even if it is super early you do it as town a lot but never as scum. rsoul your question is pretty redundant he's answered it right at the start no i don't except that explanation, not for the strength of the read | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:51 GMT
#1439
On July 07 2015 07:39 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 07:35 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! This post is really weird, what are you trying to achieve here? read You come in out of nowhere and you're still stuck on the "xP"? That ship sailed long ago. Don't know why you even bring that up anymore. I really dislike this post. So much noise I can't even take the message you're trying to convey here seriously. okay let me explain this for those of y'all who don't speak rsoul scott was the one who thought oats' case of "more xPs" in this game than my last town game was soooo amazing. which is just ridiculous given there was bound to be more or less of them regardless, he picked only two games, and kels already debunked that...and the post was AFTER kels went on his stats finding expedition from milo who has posted a grand total of jack-all i'd care more i realized it was scott though so eh now go bark up a different tree, pup | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:52 GMT
#1440
wow it's like i'm repeating myself o.0 who woulda thunk it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 22:57 GMT
#1442
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:12 GMT
#1456
On July 07 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 07:39 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 07:35 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! This post is really weird, what are you trying to achieve here? read You come in out of nowhere and you're still stuck on the "xP"? That ship sailed long ago. Don't know why you even bring that up anymore. I really dislike this post. So much noise I can't even take the message you're trying to convey here seriously. okay let me explain this for those of y'all who don't speak rsoul scott was the one who thought oats' case of "more xPs" in this game than my last town game was soooo amazing. which is just ridiculous given there was bound to be more or less of them regardless, he picked only two games, and kels already debunked that...and the post was AFTER kels went on his stats finding expedition from milo who has posted a grand total of jack-all i'd care more i realized it was scott though so eh now go bark up a different tree, pup I don't see it. Your post had no context, it literally came out of nowhere, replied to no one and the content was trash and outdated. You're staying firm in my inner circle of scum for now. don't care ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#1457
that seems to be how people are handling things these days | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#1465
On July 07 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote: Can someone please answer my question: Is it normal for scott31337 to miss obvious jokes? ... there a particular reason you're sucking? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:19 GMT
#1471
On July 07 2015 08:18 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I'd rather not go into it.On July 07 2015 08:17 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote: Can someone please answer my question: Is it normal for scott31337 to miss obvious jokes? ... there a particular reason you're sucking? I'd like to know the answer to the question, please. It's somewhat important to me. no clue | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#1491
On July 07 2015 08:30 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:29 Holyflare wrote: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz trfel reaching for that cc claim Come on... who is reaching now? parrot!soul | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:32 GMT
#1493
On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. quid pro quo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1497
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:36 GMT
#1503
On July 07 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. quid pro quo Care to translate for us? My best guess is Something for Something but it doesn't make sense for a answer here. it means if he wants people to explain themselves he needs to start actually giving reasoning for shit | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:39 GMT
#1510
On July 07 2015 08:37 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote: On July 07 2015 02:06 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 01:46 Holyflare wrote: LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down. Town: Damdred even if he's wrong on my alignment he actually putting work into this game. HTS: Miller Claim. rsoultin: Tone reads town but I can be wrong on her. Vivax: Really trying to get people to look at his thing on Geript and looks townie for it. Boxerfred: Seems like Town again this game he's playing similar to how he played our last game together. KSC: Playing very similar to how he played in our last game when he was town pushing the thread a lot. Oatsmaster: Although i dislike how he not explaining why those posts make people scum he seems to play similar to the last newbie game he played in when got lynched in LYLO. Harkon: Seems to have some good points here and there Clarity_nl : Decent content and tried to get his thoughts down to the thread. Scott: Had some decent questioning but my weakest townread here. Null: Geript: Seems angrier than his town game could he be scum this game? Holyflare: Bleed Town damn it I not going to let you pocket me this game. milo: Not really posting much Breshke: Seems okay on filter wise but his reasoning for the sheep is pretty lackluster. Meapak: No posts since the /confirm XEliteBlueHunter69X: No posts since the /confirm BM: Claiming Wandering Townie but no posts after that. OWS: Small filter but not nothing really to go on. Ritoky Only drive by posts so far. rux: Seems weird this game with him saying don't let me mislynch and stuff just seems odd. Actually LS do you have any scum reads at this point? Maybe Trfel and BlueHunter they playing super antitown with the blue shit it's pretty bad. Tfrel also because his posts seemed weirder than normal too esp his interactions with rsoultin which looks pretty similar to how they interacted with each other in Student V when Trfel was scum. BlueHunter he made a blue list which is a red flag I think if he's a vet smurfing. ... now that's just flatout bs, lightningstrike i destroyed him in student v and he would've been lynched if anyone bothered to listen to me ever xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:39 GMT
#1512
On July 07 2015 08:39 Holyflare wrote: what kind of mafia makes a list hunting blue's in the thread instead of in his mafia qt this | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:43 GMT
#1519
On July 07 2015 08:41 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote: On July 07 2015 02:06 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 01:46 Holyflare wrote: LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down. Town: Damdred even if he's wrong on my alignment he actually putting work into this game. HTS: Miller Claim. rsoultin: Tone reads town but I can be wrong on her. Vivax: Really trying to get people to look at his thing on Geript and looks townie for it. Boxerfred: Seems like Town again this game he's playing similar to how he played our last game together. KSC: Playing very similar to how he played in our last game when he was town pushing the thread a lot. Oatsmaster: Although i dislike how he not explaining why those posts make people scum he seems to play similar to the last newbie game he played in when got lynched in LYLO. Harkon: Seems to have some good points here and there Clarity_nl : Decent content and tried to get his thoughts down to the thread. Scott: Had some decent questioning but my weakest townread here. Null: Geript: Seems angrier than his town game could he be scum this game? Holyflare: Bleed Town damn it I not going to let you pocket me this game. milo: Not really posting much Breshke: Seems okay on filter wise but his reasoning for the sheep is pretty lackluster. Meapak: No posts since the /confirm XEliteBlueHunter69X: No posts since the /confirm BM: Claiming Wandering Townie but no posts after that. OWS: Small filter but not nothing really to go on. Ritoky Only drive by posts so far. rux: Seems weird this game with him saying don't let me mislynch and stuff just seems odd. Actually LS do you have any scum reads at this point? Maybe Trfel and BlueHunter they playing super antitown with the blue shit it's pretty bad. Tfrel also because his posts seemed weirder than normal too esp his interactions with rsoultin which looks pretty similar to how they interacted with each other in Student V when Trfel was scum. BlueHunter he made a blue list which is a red flag I think if he's a vet smurfing. ... now that's just flatout bs, lightningstrike i destroyed him in student v and he would've been lynched if anyone bothered to listen to me ever xP Well it seems similar although given that game took place a while ago I prob should reread you vs trfel Day 1. xP i'm townreading truffle still, so it's obviously different. i just...don't get wtf he's doing and it's giving me a deja vu gb 2.0 feel lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:48 GMT
#1524
On July 07 2015 08:45 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:41 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote: On July 07 2015 02:06 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 01:46 Holyflare wrote: LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down. Town: Damdred even if he's wrong on my alignment he actually putting work into this game. HTS: Miller Claim. rsoultin: Tone reads town but I can be wrong on her. Vivax: Really trying to get people to look at his thing on Geript and looks townie for it. Boxerfred: Seems like Town again this game he's playing similar to how he played our last game together. KSC: Playing very similar to how he played in our last game when he was town pushing the thread a lot. Oatsmaster: Although i dislike how he not explaining why those posts make people scum he seems to play similar to the last newbie game he played in when got lynched in LYLO. Harkon: Seems to have some good points here and there Clarity_nl : Decent content and tried to get his thoughts down to the thread. Scott: Had some decent questioning but my weakest townread here. Null: Geript: Seems angrier than his town game could he be scum this game? Holyflare: Bleed Town damn it I not going to let you pocket me this game. milo: Not really posting much Breshke: Seems okay on filter wise but his reasoning for the sheep is pretty lackluster. Meapak: No posts since the /confirm XEliteBlueHunter69X: No posts since the /confirm BM: Claiming Wandering Townie but no posts after that. OWS: Small filter but not nothing really to go on. Ritoky Only drive by posts so far. rux: Seems weird this game with him saying don't let me mislynch and stuff just seems odd. Actually LS do you have any scum reads at this point? Maybe Trfel and BlueHunter they playing super antitown with the blue shit it's pretty bad. Tfrel also because his posts seemed weirder than normal too esp his interactions with rsoultin which looks pretty similar to how they interacted with each other in Student V when Trfel was scum. BlueHunter he made a blue list which is a red flag I think if he's a vet smurfing. ... now that's just flatout bs, lightningstrike i destroyed him in student v and he would've been lynched if anyone bothered to listen to me ever xP Well it seems similar although given that game took place a while ago I prob should reread you vs trfel Day 1. xP i'm townreading truffle still, so it's obviously different. i just...don't get wtf he's doing and it's giving me a deja vu gb 2.0 feel lol >< Explain what you mean in the bolded please? you were in the game i was irritated with gb cause i had him town but he kept doing shit that just...made my toneread less and less valuable lol >< and got lynched anyway | ||
rsoultin
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July 06 2015 23:49 GMT
#1525
On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:52 GMT
#1530
i'm trying to let truffle answer for himself but the level of stupid/lack of basic reading comprehension -_- i'm just gonna go do my chem work | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:58 GMT
#1536
On July 07 2015 08:53 geript wrote: I agree rsoultin. We should lynch oats. better than rit or truffle i still have like no read on him, though? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 06 2015 23:59 GMT
#1537
On July 07 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading like how on earth is that not reading? -_- he already fucking explained it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:01 GMT
#1540
On July 07 2015 08:59 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:53 geript wrote: I agree rsoultin. We should lynch oats. better than rit or truffle i still have like no read on him, though? Well at least Marv PalmAr and HF all agree that we should lynch him for not playing like his town meta. So let's get onto that people. meeeeh the hf and palmar star power isn't doing it for me i'll review your case once i'm done with this, though | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:01 GMT
#1542
On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#1548
On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers -_- i have nothing productive to say to you if you can't connect that something in the response to those questions prompted that comment, whatever. at least acknowledge that the REAL problem is truffle isn't explaining where his head's at instead of trying to sell that his read changed for NO REASON with NO PROMPTING like seriously. the last time you pulled this shit it was with gb and claiming that the only reason he had to scumread...i don't even remember who it was anymore lol bf?...was because of one post simply because you arbitrarily decided to throw out the other reasons out before i start fighting with you again -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:12 GMT
#1555
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote: for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related? you said nothing changed something changed you weren't reading end of story if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:13 GMT
#1556
On July 07 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote: -twitches- i'm trying to let truffle answer for himself but the level of stupid/lack of basic reading comprehension -_- i'm just gonna go do my chem work | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:18 GMT
#1561
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote: for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related? you said nothing changed something changed you weren't reading end of story if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you no I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it. you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch i am going to ignore you now | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:19 GMT
#1563
On July 07 2015 09:17 Holyflare wrote: Now you're just going to say "lightningstrike's answers clearly changed his read" which you know, is totally unexplained and scummy since nothing LS has said is scummy which leads us full circle back to: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers when someone says they don't want to lynch someone and then afk's for a long time and asks them a random question about a claimed blue that warrants a generic response and then he changes their read it's pretty weird and needs explaining because: a) why would he ask ls specifically that question when ls was off the table at that point for him, why not anyone else? b) the generic response is so classic ls that it shouldn't change the original response i think i know but won't answer for him and yes, exactly what hts said, that's my problem with you practically this entire game >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:27 GMT
#1574
On July 07 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote: for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related? you said nothing changed something changed you weren't reading end of story if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you no I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it. you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch i am going to ignore you now great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop ...god i hope you're scum again >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:30 GMT
#1579
On July 07 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote: for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related? you said nothing changed something changed you weren't reading end of story if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you no I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it. you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch i am going to ignore you now great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop ...god i hope you're scum again >< go away seriously, if you have nothing to add and even acknowledge you have no idea what he's thinking then just seriously don't even post it achieves nothing but aggravation and you know what it leads to so stop it has nothing to do with truffle and everything to do with YOU twisting everything around why the fuck would i KNOW what truffle is thinking? i suspect i do but why would i even say what it is? like seriously you are not this bad >< you cannot be this bad | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:32 GMT
#1582
On July 07 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote: holy fucking shit i want to know why trfel changed his read in between with such basic ls answers you have turned it into 2 pages of useless shit and you don't even know the answer fuck off then why didn't you just ask instead of sit there taking pot shots? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#1588
On July 07 2015 09:32 Holyflare wrote: I DID FUCKING ASK HOLY SHIT lol like hell you did being snide and demeaning is not asking anything i'm leaving >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:38 GMT
#1594
On July 07 2015 09:34 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Rso and Hf stop fighting. You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this. ^ Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything. do you have any clue how frustrating this is? HOLYFLARE IS MAFIA maybe the all-caps will make this get through your thick skulls i'm not fucking defending truffle i'm saying hf is fucking mafia for the way he's approaching this >< whatever i'm not doing this anymore you guys keep being obtuse | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:56 GMT
#1612
On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote: @Trfel Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life? You played like a fucking god in our newbie game. What changed? ... you played with him when he's scum and you're now saying that him playing differently makes him...scum? (for the retards who can't read, this means i think that ruxxar is MAKING SHIT UP) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 00:58 GMT
#1613
On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote: I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. i don't see him trying to figure out shit. i see him tunneling and sniping. maybe you can show me how i'm wrong cause i really don't think i am >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:01 GMT
#1617
On July 07 2015 09:59 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote: On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote: I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. i don't see him trying to figure out shit. i see him tunneling and sniping. maybe you can show me how i'm wrong cause i really don't think i am >< He trying to get a answer to his question about Tfrel regarding me because it is bit of a odd read switch from him this game. no unless you're looking at a different post, i don't see how you can think this | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:03 GMT
#1621
On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween this is not a question this is sniping how am i wrong? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:04 GMT
#1624
On July 07 2015 10:02 ritoky wrote: hey rsoul, gimme a read on HtS and harkon. thanx. harkon null...if he is who i think he is he did this same thing with scum marv, but some of his posting is okay so i dunnae...plus i could be wrong on who he is anyway hts townlean...she's putting in work and doublechecking what people are saying | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:07 GMT
#1626
On July 07 2015 10:04 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 10:03 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween this is not a question this is sniping how am i wrong? He been trying to ask stuff before that post? quote; i'm not seeing it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:14 GMT
#1630
On July 07 2015 10:14 milo109 wrote: Okay. Reading rsoultin's filter and... does he always play with an smiley-face/lol in almost every post? It's rubbing me the wrong way. she and yeah pretty much | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:15 GMT
#1632
all my games lol >< except the most recent i make it even easier than searching the database -gasp!- zzzzz@ls | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:16 GMT
#1635
On July 07 2015 10:15 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:56 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote: @Trfel Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life? You played like a fucking god in our newbie game. What changed? ... you played with him when he's scum and you're now saying that him playing differently makes him...scum? (for the retards who can't read, this means i think that ruxxar is MAKING SHIT UP) There's a difference between playing different and playing badly. The fact that so few people are scum reading him now is very surprising to me. But knowing what trfel is capable of, I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing the "shitty town" angle, and it seems to be working. You're also aligning yourself very strongly with Trfel. Not sure why, but it doesn't look good. Let the man fend for himself. read literally ANY game truffle and i have played together and you'd get it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:17 GMT
#1636
On July 07 2015 10:15 milo109 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 10:14 milo109 wrote: Okay. Reading rsoultin's filter and... does he always play with an smiley-face/lol in almost every post? It's rubbing me the wrong way. she and yeah pretty much Apologies. i don't care? lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:18 GMT
#1638
please -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:20 GMT
#1640
On July 07 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 10:15 rsoultin wrote: profile all my games lol >< except the most recent i make it even easier than searching the database -gasp!- zzzzz@ls Okay maybe not it felt like though he trying to question people about Trfel because of his response to my answers to him(Trfel) and yet have a different conclusion than Trfel. q.e.d. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:21 GMT
#1643
it may seem like he's trying to figure out truffle's alignment, but nothing when you actually look at his posting shows that. he's in full tunnel and just sniping | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:22 GMT
#1645
On July 07 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote: If q.e.d means quit eating dicks I not eating dicks? rofl >< it's short for a latin phrase at the end of mathematical/philosophical proofs ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:29 GMT
#1650
i need to check that against something, geript i'll do it before bed tonight | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:38 GMT
#1656
and it's kind of hard to believe you when you decided hours into the day phase that you were going to lynch truffle no matter what, regardless -shrugs- that sort of tunneling i don't expect from a town hf any more than you nitpicking my posts when i was just commenting and not trying to start anything to begin with i'm easy to get riled up -_- you took advantage of it last game, so forgive me if i have a difficult time seeing this as any different i don't like your read on ruxxar | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:46 GMT
#1661
i'm out | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 01:53 GMT
#1671
On July 07 2015 10:50 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 10:49 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:41 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike
On July 06 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: ah ye olde crack/weed/alcohol meta read lol apparently i'm not the first to think of it. it any good? it only just clicked for me last game it's pretty basic but works for him being town from my exp, i have another stupid meta read that i'm waiting on for him too 1st point is a town read like we've said and you should have seen if you were reading the thread 2nd point is just silly because he does that regularly, you can just look at any game and see he plays reactionary to appease people 3rd point you literally compare 2 quotes that are exactly the same and say they are different When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? When you are caught up can I have your reads please? also NONE OF THIS CONTAINS ANY RESPONSE ABOUT LS' READ ON RITOKY LOL so, trfel's case is based on everything earlier and what did he say earlier? Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. everything after does not change because of his response to ritoky, nothing is different this is actually valid though :/ lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 02:50 GMT
#1681
humor me for a second yeah? assassination, guardians, carol, and even aperture (though obv reasons why this isn't as relevant) to a lesser extent what do they all have in common? and you played in every single one of these, too like i agree that case on ls was meeeeeeeh and doesn't make much sense given the former stuff, but all of these were large themed just like this one. all had a low-activity truffle and the one he contributed in most (arguably) was the one he rolled 3p in, at least in terms of actually posting worthwhile things early you just kind of decided that the reason he's low-activity is because of rolling scum twice instead of considering that this is actually normal for him in large games? i have a toneread on him. i know that's not something you give a shit about, but this toneread is practically ironclad, and a lot stronger than a double-mafia roll theory. like i don't want to lynch a townread >< maybe you really believe this theory of yours but are you willing to at least consider the fact that it's actually normal for him to barely post in large themed games? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:04 GMT
#1690
like sure he posts logical things eventually but he's posted practically nothing and gotten nuked by scum while being essentially afk for 1-2 days i mean...seriously? i just don't think your theory is ironclad and i'm not sure why you won't consider that you could be wrong | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:06 GMT
#1693
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:08 GMT
#1696
On July 07 2015 12:05 Holyflare wrote: like it doesn't matter what I said in the early game about being "burnt out" and going hard on him since that was simply me trying to pressure him into contributing and revealing his alignment but then he started asking those questions about Marv that he already knows the answers to and questions about me that had no response no matter what you answered, hence why it annoys me to no end when you try and undermine any kind of questioning i have with "god can't you read" or "he already said that" it doesn't really matter if he has I want him to answer for himself and do things for himself so I can get a read on him, not on you i've been trying to do that? it feels like you're not letting me no, what i should say is it feels like you're trying to marginalize me, and that irrationally pisses me off | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:12 GMT
#1698
On July 07 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote: there was one game where i know i kept on saying yeah he sucks but he's town i just can't remember what it was >< lol >< it was noir, but he was still posting better than this i dunnae tone says town and i'm not going to help y'all lynch him, but i have no good reason to defend him other than i really don't think he's scum -_- so yeah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:15 GMT
#1704
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem i need to check that against something, geript i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff. to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_- i said i'd do it before bed. i will. if you want to actually talk then do so | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:16 GMT
#1705
On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical. this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 03:17 GMT
#1707
On July 07 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:05 Holyflare wrote: like it doesn't matter what I said in the early game about being "burnt out" and going hard on him since that was simply me trying to pressure him into contributing and revealing his alignment but then he started asking those questions about Marv that he already knows the answers to and questions about me that had no response no matter what you answered, hence why it annoys me to no end when you try and undermine any kind of questioning i have with "god can't you read" or "he already said that" it doesn't really matter if he has I want him to answer for himself and do things for himself so I can get a read on him, not on you i've been trying to do that? it feels like you're not letting me no, what i should say is it feels like you're trying to marginalize me, and that irrationally pisses me off Well when I ask people questions I expect reactions from the person and not someone saying no and back off and that's not indicative while i'm doing it before the person has responded noted | ||
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July 07 2015 03:19 GMT
#1712
On July 07 2015 12:17 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical. this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you "yes he trolls sometimes" is that what you're going to say? I don't want an argument and it doesn't have to be. If my opinion is wrong, point out how. yeah. especially early game and in large games :/ i'm not going to lie and say that this is an exceptional amount of nothing compared to what i'm used to, though | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:20 GMT
#1713
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote: On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem i need to check that against something, geript i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff. to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_- i said i'd do it before bed. i will. if you want to actually talk then do so hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town ...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:21 GMT
#1714
On July 07 2015 12:19 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:17 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical. this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you "yes he trolls sometimes" is that what you're going to say? I don't want an argument and it doesn't have to be. If my opinion is wrong, point out how. yeah. especially early game and in large games :/ i'm not going to lie and say that this is an exceptional amount of nothing compared to what i'm used to, though that should say "isn't" | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:25 GMT
#1717
On July 07 2015 12:22 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:17 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical. this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you "yes he trolls sometimes" is that what you're going to say? I don't want an argument and it doesn't have to be. If my opinion is wrong, point out how. yeah. especially early game and in large games :/ i'm not going to lie and say that this is an exceptional amount of nothing compared to what i'm used to, though That's pretty much the crux of it. I've looked at all his big games and if it's trolling at the start of the game it's only a few posts max. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and that's why I put pressure on him so he'd start and be logical and instead he went the totally opposite reaction which he has never done before. Hence, scum read. yeah i guess this makes sense >< i've said several times that i don't blame people for scumreading truffle even if i don't agree, but you just seemed way overly aggressive about it and i took you literally xP | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:28 GMT
#1721
On July 07 2015 12:25 Holyflare wrote: The fact he missed the part where we town read LS for the crack/weed thing kind of indicates to me that he isn't reading the thread and is making a case based on LS' filter alone, which is scummy in the context of Trfel, especially combined with everything else. meh maybe i should actually read his last scum game, since everyone was praising it i don't know that he'd just throw out his own opinion for other people's anyway, frankly, but i only glanced at his filter and it was...stiff, which is what i associate with a scum truffle lol >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:36 GMT
#1730
On July 07 2015 12:31 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote: On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote: On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem i need to check that against something, geript i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff. to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_- i said i'd do it before bed. i will. if you want to actually talk then do so hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town ...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow. So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance. I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town. heh >< this makes sense the thing about it bresh is i never know how to really qualify my tonereads beyond things like look, humor, or hey, emotion, or that dude isn't engaging, and i don't like backing off them because the majority of the time they're right. on certain players in particular. i know i'm not infallible but i just let myself be talked out of my toneread on gb last game and that turned out so well >< i'll reconsider truffle but i can't promise anything >< we were at one point very active in skype and i feel like i've gotten a very solid read on his personality, which doesn't really shine through when he rolls scum. it's possible he could have gotten better so i'll look | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:44 GMT
#1747
On July 07 2015 12:43 milo109 wrote: Wait. He takes everything literally, and also links Rick Astley when called out? That is an actual playstyle? lol yes >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:49 GMT
#1752
cause i really kind of have to place my vote tonight class tomorrow lasts until less than an hour before eod -_- and ye majority lynch so it's kinda important? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:50 GMT
#1755
On July 07 2015 12:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Also ruxxar isnt playing anything at all like he did in his newbie. he's also playing nothing like he did in his mafia game the phrasing still bugs me like...when he said he didn't want to lynch ls for "bad reasons"...i feel like the natural way to phrase that would be he doesn't want to mislynch ls? it just sat uncomfortable with me | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 03:58 GMT
#1762
apparently that means voting geript with oats -_- blah | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 04:03 GMT
#1765
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rsoultin
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July 07 2015 04:05 GMT
#1767
On July 07 2015 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: He clearly thinks I'm so town that he's sheeping me without talking about it and you think that's reasonable? xP | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 04:07 GMT
#1769
sure oats, sure | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 04:43 GMT
#1774
On July 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 12:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 12:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Also ruxxar isnt playing anything at all like he did in his newbie. he's also playing nothing like he did in his mafia game the phrasing still bugs me like...when he said he didn't want to lynch ls for "bad reasons"...i feel like the natural way to phrase that would be he doesn't want to mislynch ls? it just sat uncomfortable with me no not really, he knows that it would be a bad reason because it's ls so he'd be lynching ls for bad reasons it's like english so i don't expect you to understand it -_- i kinda hate you sometimes | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 04:44 GMT
#1775
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rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:20 GMT
#1783
On July 07 2015 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey rsoul, why do you think milo is mafia? it was more of a placeholder. though none of his posting really screams town to me anyway what, are you townreading him or something? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:21 GMT
#1785
On July 07 2015 14:17 geript wrote: Let's talk about Oats. When does Oats not have a reason to vote for someone? Yes the reason's almost always a shitty one, but he always has it. Second, when does Oats not make a dumbass Omgus argument at some point early. Just saying folks. It's pretty easy. that at least i've seen a lot although in all honesty i think i've seen him call people mafia without a reason, or is this specific to just voting? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:26 GMT
#1788
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rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:32 GMT
#1791
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. despite the nastiness, this is still very true. like literally listed in the op. exactly as they'd appear in pm. it's not a good way to determine anyone's alignment | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:36 GMT
#1794
On July 07 2015 14:31 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote: ... apparently that means voting geript with oats -_- blah And that milo vote is just super super weird yeah, no shit. only one explanation for it kinda makes sense to me but there's also: On July 07 2015 12:52 milo109 wrote: Alright. Time for me to go to sleep. I might be around EoD. Depends on life. so unexplained vote plus excuse not to return to the thread before EoD? yeah -_- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:37 GMT
#1795
On July 07 2015 14:36 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote: oh i see why you're voting geript, oats...reminds me of bats lol >< it's just as flawed as that was, though No it's not. I've listed at least 4 different distinct reasons for why I'm voting for him and why you should as well. BTW, all of them are damn good reasons. And none of this even brings up my magic first post reads. ... i think you'll notice your mistake in a minute. hopefully. cause i'm really really too tired to keep snapping at people and i think you're town anyway so that's counterproductive -_- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:46 GMT
#1803
On July 07 2015 14:42 geript wrote: Not Voting (13): Scott31337, WaveofShadow, ritoky, Meapak_Ziphh, Trfel, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, milo109, Oatsmaster, Damdred, XEliteBlueHunter69X, Harkon, Clarity_nl FWIW, there's probably a good amount of mafia in this group right here. Interesting how similar it is to my "not town reads" list. nor is it entirely accurate, but that's neither here nor there eh i'm not going to pretend i have a read on oats. i saw reasons for his reads/pushes, though, at least to a minimal extent in his filter if it's between him and truffle i'm voting for him i think i'd be happier with milo though, in all honesty what's your read on milo? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:47 GMT
#1805
On July 07 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. despite the nastiness, this is still very true. like literally listed in the op. exactly as they'd appear in pm. it's not a good way to determine anyone's alignment @oats | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 05:51 GMT
#1807
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July 07 2015 05:53 GMT
#1808
On July 07 2015 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Rsoul, how in the world am I mafia. You have given no reasons but I'm somehow your second top scumread what shit is that. Bullshit. you're not? "if it is between truffle and oats" literally means "if it is between truffle and oats" just as "i'm not going to pretend that i have a read on oats" literally means i don't have a read on you so yes, it is 100% bullshit that you're my second top scumread lol >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 06:12 GMT
#1819
yeah going to bed the people i was talking to apparently...don't care to talk -_- and i can't wait up for truffle i still find milo's play pretty weird...i'd prefer him over an oats' lynch but will consolidate to oats...unless something in truffle's giant post makes me reconsider you're on your own for him though lol >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 17:55 GMT
#2411
i'd appreciate a rundown...? like why everyone switched back over to ritoky? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#2427
i don't have time. what's up? read yeah, brilliant okay, well...i'll try to go through filters i guess when i get out of lab -_- that doesn't really explain why everyone wants to lynch ritoky over milo, oats, trfel etc. all of a sudden | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:10 GMT
#2791
On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:15 GMT
#2797
On July 08 2015 06:13 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ Get to work. get to work doing what, precisely? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#2799
On July 08 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me hf -> lynch hts some people -> sounds good a lot of people -> nah hf + marv -> lynch milo everyone -> okay milo -> 2-shot cop lot of people -> lynch ritoky lot of people -> rip there might actually be 2 cops everyone -> who to lynch meapak -> 1st post + ninja vote everyone -> o, he not getting subbed/modkilled now. spam votes lol thanks that's the most helpful | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:17 GMT
#2800
On July 08 2015 06:16 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:13 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ Get to work. get to work doing what, precisely? Everyone wants to lynch you apparently. okay? who is everyone and for what? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:20 GMT
#2807
On July 08 2015 06:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:13 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ Get to work. get to work doing what, precisely? are you saying "what do you want from me?" i've been in class all day? lol i'm not sure what anyone's talking about right now and the likelihood that i will be before EoD without someone directing me to what's interesting...well -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:23 GMT
#2817
emoticons means nothing lol unless i have none >< the question issue was because y'all are tards and don't understand simple english + i was on my phone so yeah garbled didn't read the post what does har have to do with anything? and why didn't he want to lynch me in the first place? lol i'm the trfel whisperer xP if you bothered to read ANY of my games with him in it you'd know that means jack shit that last is blatant misrepresentation anything else? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:25 GMT
#2820
On July 08 2015 06:22 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:17 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:16 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:13 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me lol >< would be helpful, yes -stretches- i got out of lab a little early! ^^ Get to work. get to work doing what, precisely? Everyone wants to lynch you apparently. okay? who is everyone and for what? I want to understand why you hard-defended trfel. It blows my mind and I can't understand it. HF was trying to have a normal conversation with the guy, and you butt inn guns blazing and throw the biggest fit in history of ever, derailing any further productive conversation and on top of that start calling HF mafia and keep tunneling him for the rest of the game. fuck that read how hf was talking to him and then come back with this shit normal conversation my ass furthermore, all i said was MY opinion on truffle and he starts throwing shit at me you want to form a proper scumread, at least get your fucking facts straight. if hf even IS town this game you've been so far up his ass the whole game it's ridiculous >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:26 GMT
#2823
On July 08 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + Sample PMs DMLE Investigator Ministry Obliviator Taking Bribes Twin, your QT: _____ Potions Master Investigator Extraordinaire Lead Auror, Special Victims Unit Auror, Special Victims Unit Lieutenant Private Detective Alastor Moody DUMBLEDORE 1-Shot Potions Master 1-Shot Investigator Extraordinaire 1-Shot Lead Auror, Special Victims Unit 1-Shot Auror, Special Victims Unit 1-Shot Private Detective 1-Shot Alastor Moody 1-Shot DUMBLEDORE 2-Shot Potions Master 2-Shot Investigator Extraordinaire 2-Shot Lead Auror, Special Victims Unit 2-Shot Auror, Special Victims Unit 2-Shot Private Detective 2-Shot Alastor Moody 2-Shot DUMBLEDORE Missing Evidence, your QT: ____ False Lead, your QT: ____ Unhelpful Witness, your QT: ____ Political Pressure, your QT: ____ Leaky Precinct, your QT: ____ anyone else see what I see. at the top it says there's like the possibility of 1, 2, or unlimited? or are you referring to something else? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:29 GMT
#2830
On July 08 2015 06:28 Half the Sky wrote: I'm confused by what KSC means.... heh, you're not the only one xP | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:32 GMT
#2837
but i thought why everyone defaulted to him in the first place was he basically didn't post? so that kinda implies y'all can't agree on anything -_- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:33 GMT
#2847
On July 08 2015 06:31 LightningStrike wrote: Honestly I want to switch votes and willing to consolidate with anyone if we can get a mass switch to someone. wouldn't that be a second sudden wagon formation? lol who do you want to switch to, ls? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:35 GMT
#2851
On July 08 2015 06:34 geript wrote: And the /confirm argument is pretty dumb. it's like i have a parrot xP | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:35 GMT
#2854
On July 08 2015 06:34 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote: eh it's not unreasonable if he confirmed on the 30th? but i thought why everyone defaulted to him in the first place was he basically didn't post? so that kinda implies y'all can't agree on anything -_- Is there anyone who you won't defend if he is being pushed? is there anyone here who can read english? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:37 GMT
#2859
course i don't know if he was active today at all or not @.@ | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:39 GMT
#2868
On July 08 2015 06:37 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:37 rsoultin wrote: i really don't care between mz and bm? i also don't really see the difference between the two, though at least bm has been generally more active from what i've seen of him when he's town than this course i don't know if he was active today at all or not @.@ says the person that just played with a solidly afk bm last game are you being fucking serious here? he REPLACED OUT that game | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:41 GMT
#2875
On July 08 2015 06:39 Holyflare wrote: so what? so are you seriously going to argue with me that last game should represent his overall activity as town? -_- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:42 GMT
#2884
On July 08 2015 06:42 Harkon wrote: Then why are you voting him? +1 | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:43 GMT
#2889
On July 08 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:42 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:41 Holyflare wrote: he's chronically afk as town all the time Then why are you voting him? because the alternative (mz) i don't think is that great of a lynch so you're just throwing shit to throw shit gotcha i'm talking about my experience with him. if you have a game you want to reference me to while you lynch him, fine | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:46 GMT
#2901
On July 08 2015 06:44 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:40 Half the Sky wrote: geript, you said you didn't like Damdred. I went through his filter. I know a couple of people cited him for his pushes. What is making you think he's not town? Is it his method of scumhunting? Is it his pushes on his targets (LS/Trfel/Wave, etc) or was it him dropping the LS read? You didn't like his wave read, and Damdred is saying that wos doesn't seem to care about the game. Are you lot thinking he's zeroing in on a pattern of "easy" lynches? I know we know the deal on LS (before he dropped it) and Trfel wasn't playing optimally regardless of what people think on him, and wos has been highly critical of his own town game. It's possible as a theory. But I don't understand the part in your filter about "that's not whom Damdred should be choosing" as a lynch though when he goes on wave. KSC I know you found this read weird too. I'm reading the filter and I don't know if I'm missing something. So basically usually Damdred has a Damdred thought. Basically as town, he has this thought process that I can recognize. Like last game he made 1post while I was like," yep that's exactly what Damdred would push/think." And it's not there at all this game. this has been bugging me too to some extent? but yeah i've got so much game to catch up on at this point so meh | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:47 GMT
#2917
On July 08 2015 06:46 Harkon wrote: Rsoultin why are you so happy to vote with HF on bm? stupid question more importantly, i don't think we have enough. we should probably switch back? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:50 GMT
#2932
On July 08 2015 06:49 geript wrote: That's a weird reaction from MZ. Not scummy weird. Just weird. kinda wifomy but it definitely doesn't smell like self-preservation -_- | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:50 GMT
#2938
On July 08 2015 06:49 geript wrote: Didn't HTS claim miller too? wanderer miller two different things? or am i confused and he claimed miller? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:52 GMT
#2946
On July 08 2015 06:51 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 06:49 geript wrote: Didn't HTS claim miller too? wanderer miller two different things? or am i confused and he claimed miller? I think he trying to say is that there is a low chance of having both a Wandering Townie and a Miller in the same game esp given we got two cop claims. assuming both cop claims are true...yeah, i can see that | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:54 GMT
#2964
On July 08 2015 06:53 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand why MZ wants to lynch milo in this spot as opposed to if he was mafia and just switches to bm and stfu? only scum reason for this is if he flips red lol i agree >< | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:55 GMT
#2970
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rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#2984
we're set i think | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 21:59 GMT
#3009
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rsoultin
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July 07 2015 22:00 GMT
#3016
On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit. but lurking during vote consolidation okay ^^ | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 22:03 GMT
#3031
On July 08 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote: where did ruxx go? I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit. but lurking during vote consolidation okay ^^ Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly. What if mafia switches off then don't switch back? GG no-lynch. The absolute worst that could happen is a no-lynch. I was not taking any chances. and you can't count? -_- wanderer means probably tracker means tracker and two cops? does that make sense? | ||
rsoultin
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July 07 2015 22:05 GMT
#3040
On July 08 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote: where did ruxx go? I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit. but lurking during vote consolidation okay ^^ On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly. What if mafia switches off then don't switch back? GG no-lynch. The absolute worst that could happen is a no-lynch. I was not taking any chances. and you can't count? -_- wanderer means probably tracker means tracker and two cops? does that make sense? so you switched over after we hit 13 then...still...how low were you going to let mz drop below the votes to lynch before you got off your ass? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:08 GMT
#3045
so there's that at least lol >< no one else is questioning 2 cop claims with a wanderer flip? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:09 GMT
#3047
On July 08 2015 07:07 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote: where did ruxx go? I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit. but lurking during vote consolidation okay ^^ On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly. What if mafia switches off then don't switch back? GG no-lynch. The absolute worst that could happen is a no-lynch. I was not taking any chances. and you can't count? -_- wanderer means probably tracker means tracker and two cops? does that make sense? Maybe. But it's pretty common to include miller-type roles for things that don't exist. Hell. We could have like 3 trackers and no cops. Maybe a mix of both cop and tracker. Maybe just cops. nh, fair enough. i think i've seen a wanderer in a game without a tracker before, actually lol >< just doesn't make a ton of sense unless the host is using it as a named vt sorta deal for balance | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:12 GMT
#3051
On July 08 2015 07:10 geript wrote: @Rso. What do you think of HTS and why? she seems okay? she was literally the only person understanding what i was trying to say, anyway lol >< about both trfel and hf. it's been awhile since i've played with her since i wasn't scum, though xP why? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:14 GMT
#3053
i'll try to catch up before the night phase ends, but if there's anything specific people want to ask or interests them, throw it my way? not sure how far i'll get | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#3069
On July 08 2015 07:17 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:10 geript wrote: @Rso. What do you think of HTS and why? she seems okay? she was literally the only person understanding what i was trying to say, anyway lol >< about both trfel and hf. it's been awhile since i've played with her since i wasn't scum, though xP why? What do you think of her miller claim? she's done it before as town? in titanic i think? it's not the safest claim for scum, imo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:43 GMT
#3072
you know, har...jat...har who lies about not playing until january xP for everyone wanting to lynch me and all that jazz they're sure not bothering with me now -amused- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 07 2015 22:52 GMT
#3077
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 00:57 GMT
#3110
On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 01:07 GMT
#3112
On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts rsoul..do you stick by your LS read? nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 01:13 GMT
#3115
On July 08 2015 10:08 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts rsoul..do you stick by your LS read? nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth ] i do i aint mad but what you think of him now? i'm bad at reading him and i think that read works? but yeah, prototype out for a test drive...not married to it, if anyone has a good argument that isn't just nai for him | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 01:17 GMT
#3118
On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote: Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it. pretty sure i saw it, too | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 01:17 GMT
#3119
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 02:31 GMT
#3138
massive associative read in other words xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 03:44 GMT
#3177
On July 08 2015 11:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Even if you think there were people going out of their way to save MZ, why were they only scum for doing so and why can't they be town trying to save someone they think is town? It's the same concept. The theory you're bringing up COULD hold water, but even if it did you'd be able to make cases on those players anyway without the associative reads involved. ^ this milo like...i actually think it's a very good idea to know the alignments of all wagons to help get a clearer picture, but if your scumread just centers around you thinking the shenanigans were odd...eh even if some of the voters were odd, that speaks more to their alignment i don't know if you were following the recent game where hf was scum, but a couple of the scumteam switched off super suspiciously and the other wagon was town xP i got a ton of flak for not just jumping to a scumread on gb while scumreading the wagon jumpers pre-flipped associations rarely end well, in other words | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 03:52 GMT
#3180
1. MZ is town not wanting to lynch into inactive 2. MZ is scum making MAD PLAYZ for ultimate WIFOM presumably with his scummates to back up the wagon switch <- possible but town far outweigh scum right now so that's pretty ballsy, especially when he can just let the switch to confirmed town bm happen 3. MZ is scum and going for that no-lynch play by trying to divide the votes by starting a third lynch <- much more likely scum play if he is scum, but still a bit risky, and i don't see how it benefits scum to no-lynch over lynching a townie unless it's simply to deny info | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 03:54 GMT
#3181
it's probably best just to hold mz to actually playing this game -shrugs- and read him from there | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 04:12 GMT
#3188
On July 08 2015 13:02 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I am confused as to why we lynched an easily confirmable role that had already claimed but I digress. I will share additional thoughts shortly. ^ this doesn't make sense how is wanderer an easily confirmable role? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 04:28 GMT
#3195
On July 08 2015 13:22 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts If it's incorrect then you should correct it. If you don't I'll assume its correct. I went through all the posts and wrote down my interpretation of them. I don't need to convince you that you're scum, I'm trying to convince everyone else. What bias? This is my interpretation of the events. I encourage everyone that don't believe me to go read for themselves and make up their own mind. lol you're never lynching me off a faulty paraphrase, pup, and i don't feel the need to "correct" what is clearly visible just reading the posts i asked you what other reads you had an exercise! \o/ you treat me like you're reading me town and i'll treat you like i'm reading you town, even if i don't much believe it...this tunnel of yours is at best wrong and at worst scummy, so give me something else to read you off if you're actually town | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 06:03 GMT
#3234
you claim to be asking me questions that i not only already answered, but after i said as much you said you were trying to convince everyone ELSE which by definition means you didn't give a flying shit what i responded in the first place maybe this is some en masse hf channeling thing where all "townies" think tunneling and sniping at players is the same as questioning them/pressuring them, but if you want me to actually address your concerns (lol concerns ><) 1. actually phrase them in a way where it's not obvious you've already made up your mind 2. actually read my responses to the questions you've already asked and i've already answered 3. engage with me on your other reads cause you won't convince me i'm scum, and you're not posting in a way that would actually help determine my alignment; you're flat-out tunneling case and point? you literally have no other scumreads right now like i don't see how this is townplay, but obviously i'm biased (btw it's not thread derailment to call shit reasoning and pretend "questioning" shit. you already revealed your hand by saying you weren't trying to engage with me in the first place. also, kindly don't refer to your paraphrasing as "fact" that's just ridiculous) i'll try to get a reads list up tonight at least lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 06:04 GMT
#3235
On July 08 2015 14:57 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Well marv told him to sheep him. Which is usually enough for almost anyone, so I don't know if that read flip is as damning as I first thought. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Consolodating on mz okay gotcha ##Vote Meapak_ziphh Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:28 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 08 2015 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 06:22 Harkon wrote: On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages. Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Maybe next time you start reading the thread before it is almost deadline. forgot the game started homes my bad I do apologize to everyone bc I was looking forward to playing this game and I hate folks who do what I did but w/e shit happens. In other news, look very hard at the last 10 people who have voted for me after I flip. I'm actually willing to switch back to ritoky if there's enough people around. independent of marv here. that is definitely weird, rit | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 14:08 GMT
#3368
but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 14:15 GMT
#3380
On July 08 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 08 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote: i somehow feel like i need to lead this town, but i don't feel like i have a good enough grasp on the game and i'm not really feeling the inclination to put in that much work. what do Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me. I really don't know. I am particularly bad at reading Damdred. I'd say he was my worst read on TL Mafia right now. i'm very good at reading damdy lol >< my early issues with him were - scumread on ls when it was too early to reasonably have one - concentrating on limited things instead of taking a broader view of the game - someone else mentioned he poe's by getting townreads first normally <- this is true...usually his cases come from looking into the people he hasn't already eliminated another way i read him is by emotion in his posting, but that was actually okayish, so i was kinda waffling and then he expanded his view of the game i'm pretty confident i can read him on a filter dive? just need to actually get to it @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 14:20 GMT
#3390
On July 08 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 23:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote: On July 08 2015 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 08 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote: i somehow feel like i need to lead this town, but i don't feel like i have a good enough grasp on the game and i'm not really feeling the inclination to put in that much work. what do Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me. I really don't know. I am particularly bad at reading Damdred. I'd say he was my worst read on TL Mafia right now. i'm very good at reading damdy lol >< my early issues with him were - scumread on ls when it was too early to reasonably have one - concentrating on limited things instead of taking a broader view of the game - someone else mentioned he poe's by getting townreads first normally <- this is true...usually his cases come from looking into the people he hasn't already eliminated another way i read him is by emotion in his posting, but that was actually okayish, so i was kinda waffling and then he expanded his view of the game i'm pretty confident i can read him on a filter dive? just need to actually get to it @.@ i scumread him for this before and he was town. point 2 maybe, point 3,meh... if you could filter him before daybreak, i'd be very grateful, i want to know what you think + why i'll try at lunch i said this pre-game, but i'm in a chem class + lab which is eating a shit ton of my time -_- i'm going to be chronically afk during the time i was yesterday. but i'll try lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 21:56 GMT
#3616
and if anyone wants me to bug me about anything before day phase i'll answer i have nothing new though and am kind of in an eh mood for reasons outside the game so...yeah. fair warning | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 21:59 GMT
#3621
On July 09 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 06:56 rsoultin wrote: so i'm here and if anyone wants me to bug me about anything before day phase i'll answer i have nothing new though and am kind of in an eh mood for reasons outside the game so...yeah. fair warning A list of actual reads plz no different from earlier and still haven't reread in all the wonderful free time i have be specific | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#3631
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:19 GMT
#3742
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:21 GMT
#3745
On July 09 2015 10:20 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts You could also give some reads in general and adress the elephant in the room. my vote addresses the elephant in the room xP or are you referring to a different elephant? and no, not really interested | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:25 GMT
#3750
On July 09 2015 10:23 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts Don't even try it now - What would you like me to answer for you? don't even try what? trying to read you? lol >< oooookay nothing i haven't read...like probably half this game by now...and frankly have like no desire to do it at the moment when and if i have questions i'll address them to you and/or anyone else | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:29 GMT
#3751
On July 09 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts I knew you roleread him haha WOS, HTS and rsoul and anyone else that is around whats your reads on EBH He named 3 people (KSC, OWS and myself) before and asked people opinions on them. I assume this is because he scumleans on us or w/e which i find odd because those two are some of my top townreads. He also complains about people not putting effort into the game when he does nothing himself which isn't alignment indicative just irritating. lol bresh >< i love that we think on the same wavelength. it's always the best sign that you're town ^^ and yeah. it was that or really stupid scum, and i just don't favor the stupid over smart argument unless there's a good reason to think a player would play stupid xP mmmm ebh really whiny about the lynch was the main thought that popped into my head about him, which on principle i'm not a fan of from players that i don't remember being active during the lynch beyond that i really only remember his bluehunting post lol which kinda dismissed as just...weird...and not definitively alignment-indicative | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:34 GMT
#3755
On July 09 2015 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh also I remember not feeling rsoul this game for whatever reason. Doesn't feel like same rsoul who I pocketed via arguments in whatever game that as. Also maybe HF 'cause HF lol pocketed. selective memory | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:49 GMT
#3759
On July 09 2015 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh also I remember not feeling rsoul this game for whatever reason. Doesn't feel like same rsoul who I pocketed via arguments in whatever game that as. Also maybe HF 'cause HF lol pocketed. selective memory Totally would have won that game if I didn't let yamato convince me to shoot you lol yeeeeeaaah doubt it i was scumreading you hard when you stopped making sense xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:50 GMT
#3760
On July 09 2015 10:42 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote: On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts I knew you roleread him haha WOS, HTS and rsoul and anyone else that is around whats your reads on EBH He named 3 people (KSC, OWS and myself) before and asked people opinions on them. I assume this is because he scumleans on us or w/e which i find odd because those two are some of my top townreads. He also complains about people not putting effort into the game when he does nothing himself which isn't alignment indicative just irritating. lol bresh >< i love that we think on the same wavelength. it's always the best sign that you're town ^^ and yeah. it was that or really stupid scum, and i just don't favor the stupid over smart argument unless there's a good reason to think a player would play stupid xP mmmm ebh really whiny about the lynch was the main thought that popped into my head about him, which on principle i'm not a fan of from players that i don't remember being active during the lynch beyond that i really only remember his bluehunting post lol which kinda dismissed as just...weird...and not definitively alignment-indicative Too be fair I have no idea where you got the blue read from I think the wos point that he asked about 3 people then didn't give any opinions himself is good and makes him look airly summy. VEry possible this is OMGUS for me because I was grumpy last night and he said i wasn't giving a shit about the night phase when i was actually asleep aussie time i make that mistake occasionally, or did oh, it's more how quickly he was willing to believe there were wanderers in the game? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 01:58 GMT
#3761
eh, yeah i dunnae how much i'll post this phase, frankly damdy's been itching at me all game in that off but can't put a finger on it sorta way, so barring some exceptional town rainbow shitting or something i'm just gonna set this aside until my work's done and try to get my head straight and read the thread lol >< that, too | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:02 GMT
#3763
hts is right, too...lots of blues. even if by some off-chance there are actually two scum rbers...lots of blues, and what's the likelihood that this is even the end of the claims this early on d2? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:13 GMT
#3766
On July 09 2015 11:10 geript wrote: I don't find 6 roles that unbelievable especially if there is a good mix of mafia. Especially when (pretending everyone's town) all the roles are limited in use eh it's less 6 roles in and of itself is a lot and more if every blue has really claimed this early in the game this is a pretty retarded town xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:14 GMT
#3767
On July 09 2015 11:10 Breshke wrote: Living in the world i think is most likely there is only 3 blues so far (geript, palmar, ritoky) so that doesn't feel like there is that many especially since 1 shot 2 shot etc. granted the main point was the number of blue claims makes damdy's claim less believable than it already was | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:17 GMT
#3771
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:18 GMT
#3773
On July 09 2015 11:17 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 11:10 geript wrote: I don't find 6 roles that unbelievable especially if there is a good mix of mafia. Especially when (pretending everyone's town) all the roles are limited in use eh it's less 6 roles in and of itself is a lot and more if every blue has really claimed this early in the game this is a pretty retarded town xP Why do I think you are scummy and keep posting negative junk (retarded town) and are so angry? Is HF town? Is LS town? lol how am i supposed to know why you think i'm scummy? if it's for wording you just haven't been paying attention to all those games you've supposedly been obsing xP probably not and maybe? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:20 GMT
#3776
i'm soft and tend to hand ls townreads cause i like him ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:21 GMT
#3779
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:24 GMT
#3783
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 02:29 GMT
#3785
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#3989
this is really much simpler than y'all are making it even ignoring that the best people at reading damdred were having trouble/scumreading him this game (not to be confused with the usual range of scrubs who can't get a read on him), it's still very simple jat's claim - no scum benefit to claiming vet here. if damdy is town jk scum can get him lynched anyway without taking the risk of a claim + the way he's been talking since EoD reeked of extra info rather than it coming out of the blue like "hey, what if i do this, guys? hehehe!" both kp accounted for if ritoky wasn't shot and he's town, he was roleblocked, or scum are completely inept jk doesn't protect one of the two contested cop claims in this scenario. 30 mins before EoN and in a hurry or not. just no -_- it's more valuable to leave them alone in case if by some miracle they can get a check, or hope scum is stupid enough to resolve the dispute for town by killing one 9 times out of 10 damdred is scum here. probably more like 19 out of 20 xP as a sidenote: - we have hf wanting to lynch milo over damdred when damdred is like 95% mafia rb and there are a ton of blue claims, plus nks on palmar/harkon strong suggestion one of the "bigs" is scum - if two mafia rbs ever flip lynch ruxxar with fire for tmi believable claims: geript (suspecting damdy the whole time, and he reads damdy similarly to how i do so chances are his reads are just as good), harkon (see above), ritoky is cleared if (when) damdred flips scum, flipped banisher milo most likely scum flailing fifth scum is most likely a low impact player keeping their head low | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:07 GMT
#3993
On July 09 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote: Should I sheep you on this thing on Damdred Tina? 100% it's not quite the same as HF's red check, but if there's one thing i'm fucking amazing at it's evaluating claims, and i see absolutely no scum benefit for harkon to fakeclaim vet here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:09 GMT
#3997
the red check on hf last game was more clear-cut, but with harkon's claim and the other blue claims, i'm pretty confident he's scum independent of the early heebie jeebies he was giving me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:10 GMT
#3999
On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote: Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them. The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy. So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today because mafia rb xP thought that was obvious in my post but you know | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#4004
On July 09 2015 23:09 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote: On July 09 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote: Should I sheep you on this thing on Damdred Tina? 100% it's not quite the same as HF's red check, but if there's one thing i'm fucking amazing at it's evaluating claims, and i see absolutely no scum benefit for harkon to fakeclaim vet here this doesn't take a genius I was about to say this. Not to insult rsoultin but why on earth does LS need rsoultin to sheep her on this. eh i'm not insulted i called it simple for a reason. it is. i don't understand all the waffling | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#4010
banisher got shot and we don't want to lose jk if damdy was having a major herpaderp but it's just so much more likely he's scum here + he doesn't survive the night anyway if he's jk pretty sure so either way his usefulness is spent if that's the only reason people are considering not lynching him today if you've got a townread on him for his play for whatever reason, i'd like to hear it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:17 GMT
#4016
>> i may be pushing this hard partially so i don't have to read the game until the weekend when i have the time -swt- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:18 GMT
#4018
On July 09 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote: If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3. fuck the horror xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:19 GMT
#4019
On July 09 2015 23:01 rsoultin wrote: -_- this is really much simpler than y'all are making it even ignoring that the best people at reading damdred were having trouble/scumreading him this game (not to be confused with the usual range of scrubs who can't get a read on him), it's still very simple jat's claim - no scum benefit to claiming vet here. if damdy is town jk scum can get him lynched anyway without taking the risk of a claim + the way he's been talking since EoD reeked of extra info rather than it coming out of the blue like "hey, what if i do this, guys? hehehe!" both kp accounted for if ritoky wasn't shot and he's town, he was roleblocked, or scum are completely inept jk doesn't protect one of the two contested cop claims in this scenario. 30 mins before EoN and in a hurry or not. just no -_- it's more valuable to leave them alone in case if by some miracle they can get a check, or hope scum is stupid enough to resolve the dispute for town by killing one 9 times out of 10 damdred is scum here. probably more like 19 out of 20 xP as a sidenote: - we have hf wanting to lynch milo over damdred when damdred is like 95% mafia rb and there are a ton of blue claims, plus nks on palmar/harkon strong suggestion one of the "bigs" is scum - if two mafia rbs ever flip lynch ruxxar with fire for tmi believable claims: geript (suspecting damdy the whole time, and he reads damdy similarly to how i do so chances are his reads are just as good), harkon (see above), ritoky is cleared if (when) damdred flips scum, flipped banisher milo most likely scum flailing fifth scum is most likely a low impact player keeping their head low ^ quoted for awesomeness btw | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:26 GMT
#4029
On July 09 2015 23:23 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 23:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 23:01 rsoultin wrote: as a sidenote: - we have hf wanting to lynch milo over damdred when damdred is like 95% mafia rb and there are a ton of blue claims, plus nks on palmar/harkon strong suggestion one of the "bigs" is scum - if two mafia rbs ever flip lynch ruxxar with fire for tmi believable claims: geript (suspecting damdy the whole time, and he reads damdy similarly to how i do so chances are his reads are just as good), harkon (see above), ritoky is cleared if (when) damdred flips scum, flipped banisher milo most likely scum flailing fifth scum is most likely a low impact player keeping their head low ^ quoted for awesomeness btw Re HF - no change there, agreed with you and Hark. Agreed on the others.... For discussion on that 5th scummer.... MZ? Agreed on the comments said last night ritoky > milo, etc. Other low profile people? Vivax? Trfel (doubt it but wouldn't mind arguments)? BF? Scott? eh there really are quite a few...viva fell off hard truffle...still think he's town xP -cue ruxxar screaming to answer his questions i've already answered 20x- bf i remember practically nothing about scott...remember practically nothing about, as well, except apparently he thinks me being rude is scummy lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:27 GMT
#4033
On July 09 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote: MZ is even more mafia now than he was before the actions. TMIing it up the place with his milo/ritoky stuff, it looks like. nh, this could be a thing i saw that you didn't agree with me about his play not being very survivalist, but i can't remember following what you said about it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:29 GMT
#4040
On July 09 2015 23:28 marvellosity wrote: like my whole point on MZ was that how he was treating milo/ritoky made no sense in conjunction with each other. but it does make sense if he knows milo is mafia and ritoky isn't mafia. that's the most obvious explanation for why milo was mafia for being "apathetic" whereas ritoky was town for being "absent" (can't get over the lols of this) ah okay thus the tmi thing tracking so can we lynch damdy and i just put off reading the game until the weekend if i say please nicely? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:30 GMT
#4044
On July 09 2015 23:29 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I mean we could talk about the palmar NK at this point and its implications given he was barely playing. There has to be at least one vet on the scum team so that narrows things down considerably for later imo. Probably just meapakk though lol. Not really sure what else there is to discuss today so back to work. lol ironically agreeing with the bluehunter here regardless, class ciao | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 14:34 GMT
#4054
On July 09 2015 23:32 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 23:28 LightningStrike wrote: On July 09 2015 23:26 marvellosity wrote: why would he That wasn't the point. The point was that either got lucky or they had felt like Palmar could of been blue or felt like he was a big enough threat(WTF) that he should of been night killed anyways. Also it kinda bugging me that HF is alive atm but maybe when Day 3 comes we could talk about HF. I think Ras suggested it but Harkon/Palmar kills suggest someone that knew could read them well (a "big" or I think she meant high-profile player) would suggest HF. I'd agree on this point. WIFOM yes, but it is very much in the realm of possibilities. Even absent this there is behavior-based support for scum HF here. yup "big" = high-profile "town gods" i put it quotations cause ego...i like to think they're not a million times better than me...just maybe 100 times lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 17:54 GMT
#4128
On July 09 2015 21:49 Holyflare wrote: Well yes there is lol. Damdred rb stacks with mafia rb and milo is mafia but yes quite unlikely. this post you were still on milo you'd seen harkon's claim besides which, hf, i never dropped the scumread on you...i backed off when you actually said something REMOTELY intelligent about your scumread on truffle that could actually make him scum...not hard-pushing you is pure pragmatism, and i still failed at it anyway cause i have a hard time letting bs just sit in thread...personality flaw of mine also lol @ no reads. it's like you didn't read my post during the night phase or the very one you're criticizing. keep it up ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 17:57 GMT
#4130
and nope, you're still voting milo i was on between when you first voted and harkon's claim...you think it's coincidental i mentioned it AFTER his claim when it's clear you noticed the claim? yeah lol >< it's super simple mafia rb trumps most mafia roles you'd prefer to lynch milo because...? maybe you half-believe damdy but not after harkon's claim. i don't buy you're that stupid others maybe not you gotta love these standards of play, ne? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 09 2015 18:08 GMT
#4136
On July 10 2015 03:06 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote: On July 09 2015 21:49 Holyflare wrote: Well yes there is lol. Damdred rb stacks with mafia rb and milo is mafia but yes quite unlikely. this post you were still on milo you'd seen harkon's claim besides which, hf, i never dropped the scumread on you...i backed off when you actually said something REMOTELY intelligent about your scumread on truffle that could actually make him scum...not hard-pushing you is pure pragmatism, and i still failed at it anyway cause i have a hard time letting bs just sit in thread...personality flaw of mine also lol @ no reads. it's like you didn't read my post during the night phase or the very one you're criticizing. keep it up ^^ Well, no reads is once again an exaggeration but there is definitely a lack of content from your side and yes, I know you said you are busy. I am just stating a fact. yeah i'm aware :/ i concentrated on the strong reads i have, there are several other light ones, and honestly i probably haven't read at least 100 pages of this game and won't have the opportunity to before tomorrow at the earliest so yeah, not gonna put out shit nothings. i'll stick to what i'm fairly confident of and work the rest out later him asking for a reads list post 2 mins before EoN when i'd already said i had nothing and hadn't read was ludicrous anyway | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 03:41 GMT
#4515
i'm really not inclined to bother getting into yet another argument with people (read: hf;ruxxar) over the same old things that have already been explained nor will i have caught up on the thread probably before eon 2 nope i haven't done much of anything. i'm busy (maybe you think i'm lying, and that's fine, your prerogative)...but more relevant is the simple fact that me being mostly afk is neither a town nor a scum tell for me, so pretending that's a good reason to scumread me is lolworthy i could post the explanation again that people refuse to read but in all honesty...in ALL honesty...if i allow myself to care that y'all aren't reading anything i post yet again this game, i'll just get frustrated and upset and i am attempting to keep the rampant frustration out of the thread right now ruxxar is scum because he keeps pushing on me to answer questions i've already answered without caring what i actually respond with. he's scum because he's basically just an hf cheerleader. y'all may not be able to see it cause you're not reading anything i write either but he asked for it. he replied to it. and he still didn't read it. a lol i don't believe you, scum!soul is one thing, but instead he keeps asking the SAME FUCKING QUESTIONS for the hell of it. call that town all you want. if he actually gave a damn about what he was asking me he'd know i've answered him like 10 times this game already, not to mention actually looking through my filter for it and no, i don't plan on playing much before the night phase (read: weekend) if you don't like it, bite me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 03:49 GMT
#4519
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote: okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him ^ the post that no one reads hf is still mafia. keep pretending that the only reason i'm scumreading you is for you not wanting to lynch almost confirmed mafia rb even after it's obvious he's almost confirmed mafia rb. that's just the icing on the cake i said i didn't like ruxxar's post for wording that didn't seem natural. that's a far cry from saying he must be scum for it...the scumread comes from him being parrot!ruxx just echoing whatever godhf says, misrepresenting my play, and worse of all these, constantly asking the same questions over and over while demonstrating he's clearly not reading my responses which DID address those questions | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 03:51 GMT
#4521
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:00 GMT
#4522
On July 09 2015 02:18 ruXxar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote: okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this. Now, I don't really feel like you're addressing the main point here. The essence of all my posting is simply this: why did you feel the necessity to defend/answer for trfel? HF was not addressing you, so you shouldn't have felt any need to interject. I can see these reasonable motives: 1 you are town, you and trfel are such close friends that you feel like you need to defend him since you think your read is correct and everyone else is wrong.(I don't see you defending other people being attacked) 2 you are mafia defending town trfel because you are certain of his alignment and you know he's an easy target. If he flips you know you will look good for defending him. 3 you are mafia defending mafia trfel because he's your partner. Right now I'm leaning toward options 2 and 3, because the composite of your play seems scummy to me. That said, there's other people in the game, and I need to spend my time evaluating them as well. ^ his response, btw, and clear evidence that he DID NOT read the very post he replied to and keeps asking the same questions not only was it explained in the post, but it also is very clear in my filter, which he claims to have read given his horrendous paraphrase yet always the same question(s) tell me hf, if you're really town here, why ruxxar would have an issue with me defending a TOWNREAD on TONE after GB and Damdred last game, anyway...much less when my point wasn't even that truffle was scum, but rather that your push was scummy? he's making shit up if he's saying i'm scum for something i did as town if you're really town, can't you see how far up your ass he's crawled with this push that he can't possibly even believe? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:02 GMT
#4523
tonereader and all that jazz so i say again, if you don't like it...bite me ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:09 GMT
#4526
maybe even write a quiz for reading comprehension, since so many of you seem to need it >< but honestly that would just be depressing and i'm just going to assume that y'all will continue to ignore my posts except the select few who actually give a shit what i say those people can feel free to ask me things and i'll probably even answer before the weekend. those people know who they are -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#4528
zzz i'm out >< i just...can't do this right now | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:11 GMT
#4529
damdy milo hf ruxx ???? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:20 GMT
#4531
On July 10 2015 13:13 scott31337 wrote: Thank you for just answering the question instead of taking twice the time about how you have already answered. ignoring the passive aggressiveness in this post...it irritates me from people asking the same question over and over or misrepresenting my play over and over much more than just from people who don't remember one post in thousands in a 200+ page game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:23 GMT
#4532
On July 10 2015 13:00 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 02:18 ruXxar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote: okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this. Now, I don't really feel like you're addressing the main point here. The essence of all my posting is simply this: why did you feel the necessity to defend/answer for trfel? HF was not addressing you, so you shouldn't have felt any need to interject. I can see these reasonable motives: 1 you are town, you and trfel are such close friends that you feel like you need to defend him since you think your read is correct and everyone else is wrong.(I don't see you defending other people being attacked) 2 you are mafia defending town trfel because you are certain of his alignment and you know he's an easy target. If he flips you know you will look good for defending him. 3 you are mafia defending mafia trfel because he's your partner. Right now I'm leaning toward options 2 and 3, because the composite of your play seems scummy to me. That said, there's other people in the game, and I need to spend my time evaluating them as well. ^ his response, btw, and clear evidence that he DID NOT read the very post he replied to and keeps asking the same questions not only was it explained in the post, but it also is very clear in my filter, which he claims to have read given his horrendous paraphrase yet always the same question(s) tell me hf, if you're really town here, why ruxxar would have an issue with me defending a TOWNREAD on TONE after GB and Damdred last game, anyway...much less when my point wasn't even that truffle wasn't scum, but rather that your push was scummy? he's making shit up if he's saying i'm scum for something i did as town if you're really town, can't you see how far up your ass he's crawled with this push that he can't possibly even believe? meh typing too fast again -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 04:58 GMT
#4540
On July 10 2015 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Add scott to your scumlist. like he's with a whole slew of eeeeeeh people there, honestly...i've got several nulls in this game, though maybe not so much once i actually get through the thread lol >< apart from the people i already said i was townreading since early and the believable claims i mentioned...well obviously ls with the gunwhatever claim is believable and frankly that claim isn't as horrible as people painted it out to be anyway, given two guns and mafia has to waste an rb on him (if they even have an rb by then lol ><) to stop him n2 anyway inclined to like you for reasons that are entirely just because you're fitting in neatly with bresh and myself xP in terms of thought process hts' miller claim is within her town play and her pushes and interest in the game also align with that nnnnh yeah i think those are really the only 2/3 i haven't mentioned already several times who i'm townreading right now? everyone else falls in around null for various reasons (mostly that i can't remember much of them lol ><) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:01 GMT
#4543
. >> << xP just for you, oats ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:21 GMT
#4549
On July 10 2015 13:29 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, you still think Holyflare is scum? lol truffle wuffle you're so silent this game :/ sorry i missed this post in everything else o.0 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:27 GMT
#4551
On July 10 2015 14:17 Breshke wrote: And i thought HF and rsoultin shitfights were tedious . HF arguing with milo who is confirmed scum/getting lynched anyway probably tops it. Anything important last 10 pages? not really -_- unless you want to reread hf's case on me and watch me twitch about ruxxar some more, but i can't imagine why you would like, i know this doesn't really seem to mean much to anyone but...like, ruxx actually played a kick-ass scumgame until he got sloppy in himalayas...like his start was eeeeeh but if you read the posting around d3/d4 where hf was still dodging the lynch, particularly d3, he was more solid than people are giving him credit for in this game i actually said in the obs qt he was the only scum i didn't mind losing to because of his play. you remember? but here he asks me questions, responds to my answers with the same questions, so clearly isn't reading/caring what i say and then there's getting up my craw for "defending" a toneread, which i really didn't do much apart from trying to reason with hf when i thought he could be town for his point on truffle's ls case >< when he was IN the game where i did that with both damdred and gb off tonereads, particularly gb i find it very hard to believe he actually believes what he's saying, calling me scum for something i did as town in literally the only game he's played with me >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:30 GMT
#4555
On July 10 2015 14:23 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + It turns out you answered it like 3 posts above, so...On July 10 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 10 2015 13:29 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, you still think Holyflare is scum? lol truffle wuffle you're so silent this game :/ sorry i missed this post in everything else o.0 I've tried to talk to people a few times, but no one seems to want to talk to me at all. And I can't blame them, I don't really know anything XD I think I'm happy with a Damdred lynch today, and I'm comfortable with the associative milo109 scumread, and still scumreading Holyflare. ah lol >< yeah i'm like being all defiantly lazy and not reading this thread until the weekend myself xP we can sit in the "not reading the thread" corner and just exchange stories for awhile lol (i got mislynched d1 in an offsite game earlier this week, in part for being too busy to post much...yesterday, to be precise. it's not helping my mood :/ make me feel better?) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:35 GMT
#4557
On July 10 2015 14:30 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2015 14:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 10 2015 14:17 Breshke wrote: And i thought HF and rsoultin shitfights were tedious . HF arguing with milo who is confirmed scum/getting lynched anyway probably tops it. Anything important last 10 pages? not really -_- unless you want to reread hf's case on me and watch me twitch about ruxxar some more, but i can't imagine why you would like, i know this doesn't really seem to mean much to anyone but...like, ruxx actually played a kick-ass scumgame until he got sloppy in himalayas...like his start was eeeeeh but if you read the posting around d3/d4 where hf was still dodging the lynch, particularly d3, he was more solid than people are giving him credit for in this game i actually said in the obs qt he was the only scum i didn't mind losing to because of his play. you remember? but here he asks me questions, responds to my answers with the same questions, so clearly isn't reading/caring what i say and then there's getting up my craw for "defending" a toneread, which i really didn't do much apart from trying to reason with hf when i thought he could be town for his point on truffle's ls case >< when he was IN the game where i did that with both damdred and gb off tonereads, particularly gb i find it very hard to believe he actually believes what he's saying, calling me scum for something i did as town in literally the only game he's played with me >< Yes if you saw i half defended you from him. Its really shit thought because we have like 5 days of realtime where our lynches are set and i know we can still talk about stuff but its just meh. I agree the way ruxxar delt with you was wrong like he didn't seem to reconsider if you were town he never gave you a chance but idk if that makes him mafia. Also HF has some balls casing rsoul after LS has gunned someone just sayin not sure what ordr stuff happened in but ye. (i didn't lol...i miss chunks of the game like a strainer it's kinda fun actually xP) but yeah, i hear you >< set lynches is making it hard for me to care about being behind on the game -swt- ah, well, hf really just pretty much c/p'd earlier stuff that is no more accurate now than it was then, and i'm mostly ignoring him if i can since yeah...long way off yet. it's mostly the scumreading me for what he just saw in my town game plus the ignoring thing that makes me pretty certain ruxx is scum >< but i can wait. obviously we lynch damdy today and proooobably milo next. i haven't really read his filter it's just the claim so i should probably do that...this weekend xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:49 GMT
#4561
On July 10 2015 14:37 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Because, if Damdred is mafia roleblocker, that means that mafia roleblocked ritoky?On July 10 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote: On July 10 2015 14:23 Trfel wrote: On July 10 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote: It turns out you answered it like 3 posts above, so...On July 10 2015 13:29 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, you still think Holyflare is scum? lol truffle wuffle you're so silent this game :/ sorry i missed this post in everything else o.0 I've tried to talk to people a few times, but no one seems to want to talk to me at all. And I can't blame them, I don't really know anything XD I think I'm happy with a Damdred lynch today, and I'm comfortable with the associative milo109 scumread, and still scumreading Holyflare. Why do you think the Milo lynch is associative? Which makes it a bit hard to see mafia having two roleblockers. Though, actually, maybe that's not so bad..... Maybe I should read milo109's filter XD Show nested quote + Well, people were yelling at me earlier for being off-topic But that doesn't stop me!On July 10 2015 14:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 10 2015 14:23 Trfel wrote: On July 10 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote: It turns out you answered it like 3 posts above, so...On July 10 2015 13:29 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, you still think Holyflare is scum? lol truffle wuffle you're so silent this game :/ sorry i missed this post in everything else o.0 I've tried to talk to people a few times, but no one seems to want to talk to me at all. And I can't blame them, I don't really know anything XD I think I'm happy with a Damdred lynch today, and I'm comfortable with the associative milo109 scumread, and still scumreading Holyflare. ah lol >< yeah i'm like being all defiantly lazy and not reading this thread until the weekend myself xP we can sit in the "not reading the thread" corner and just exchange stories for awhile lol (i got mislynched d1 in an offsite game earlier this week, in part for being too busy to post much...yesterday, to be precise. it's not helping my mood :/ make me feel better?) Didn't realize you weren't reading the thread XD Worst players ever, right here, haha.... All I have on my mind lately is stuff I don't really want to share... Oh, but I did fail my driving test again. That wasn't fun. Except for one turn, I would have passed, but I just didn't see the car right in front of me... Now I have to go tomorrow to get another permit, and then try to pass the test again another time. And I had to wait 2 hours for the test as well.... blah -_- i remember having to do that once upon a time lol >< good luck yup yup not reading ftw...i kinda just scan what i see when i'm here back a few pages...sometimes...mostly the back a few pages is if i'm completely lost xP yeah mafia could have two? i don't know how likely it is, but a lock-lynch based on association isn't something i favor either, in general. just not in a hurry for obvious reasons | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 05:57 GMT
#4566
On July 10 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote: I don't really remember milo109 being that scummy, either. He said something I felt was towny, and Palmar thought he was town too. I don't see ritoky's and milo109's claims being mutually exclusive, I guess. 1-shot and 2-shot cops aren't all that powerful. two cops and a tracker is kinda stacked with self-aware millers/wanderers imo...plus vet...plus gunwhateverythingysantagifter...plus banisher xP that's ignoring damdy's jk claim so it's really not that probable but still kinda a bad reason by itself (also, there was a post by rit that kinda gives me pause, cause it looked almost like they shared wording or something for the pm? though...in retrospect i dunnae all the roles are still written out in the op supposedly how they went out, so that's probably nothing after all -_- ignore me; i'm tired) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 06:00 GMT
#4568
two cops seems the natural place to look, especially assuming damdy flips scum | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 06:08 GMT
#4572
like most of the other claims are either confirmed or all but confirmed geript w/ damdy's flip harkon cause why claim as scum? ls cause...well, i guess he's not confirmed but i dunnae, i don't really see him fake-claiming here because mafia apparently has no mafia vig so the extra kp will have to show up...risky claim for little-to-no reward palmar obv if damdy flips mafia rb, rit is pretty much confirmed so yeah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 06:33 GMT
#4585
On July 10 2015 15:29 Trfel wrote: Whatever for?!?! xP surely you don't need that explained to you? anyhow bed not sure why i stayed up this late playing with standard deviation on excel sheets @.@ still say that without a mafia vig, fakeclaiming gun-gifter is pretty meh. eventually people wonder where the kp is | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:06 GMT
#4634
On July 10 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2015 21:23 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 10 2015 21:03 marvellosity wrote: On July 10 2015 20:55 Holyflare wrote: If all of you people are going to say my push on rsoultin is shit while simultaneously saying her play is sub par and wonder why i keep copy and pasting the case WHILE STILL NOBODY BUT RITOKY SAYS A WORD ABOUT IT Then I'm seriously not going to give a crap and will just treat her as confirmed town no matter what anyone says ever. You don't even look at her filter while spewing nonsense jat it's so tedious. look, i'll listen when i need to listen. just every time you're in the thread, the thread goes all angry, and i'm generally in a fairly docile state of mind lately and i don't want to have to wade through the anger to get to the nub of it. i imagine we'll both be alive d3, and possibly d4 too, so yea. This mimics my thoughts completely. HF, every time you go "waah no one pays attention to me and rsoultin is scum and waaaaaaah" the thread does dumb things for like 10 pages and the fact that you've repeated this cycle a good five times is ridiculous to me. Like we get it, you think rsoultin is scum. I've spent a lot of energy on other things today and I'm not lynching rsoultin d2 or d3 soooooo. Your posts won't get deleted, I can come back to them. What I'm wondering is if you could keep this up at scum, just constantly be the bitchy moany type. Honestly I've just been glancing over you and rsoultin. But at least you have thoughts about actual current affairs while rsoultin seems locked in the past and has no thoughts about the goings on. She keeps talking about her read on trfel for whatever reason and it's just all blah. How about every time you wanna post about rsoultin you do it in a notepad and tomorrow or whenever you can regurgitate the entire thing in one post, yes? Look. I don't care if you're doing any other thing. There's nothing else to do today but vote damdred. The least people can do is try and find more mafia. I know I'm moaning but that's genuinely because I have good reasons to scum read someone and you say I'm wasting 10 pages but it literally takes up 1 post to requote my case. Ritoky has talked about it and summed it up pretty nicely. You say you agree with marv but that's literally what I've been saying this entire time. How can someone that is so egotistical and loves how all her reads are always right have me as mafia and instantly drop it when marv says he had an 80% town read and she says her scum read is better and how on earth can anyone scum read ruxxar. Maybe it's because you didn't read himalayas but he's very very different. How long has she had those scum reads? The entire game. It doesn't fit with an rsoultin that badgers people constantly to find stuff out and get her way. Even though she says afk excuses she wasn't afk day 1 and that is when her play was entirely mediocre. ... except i didn't instantly drop it? did you read why i'm scumreading ruxxar? tell me how i'm wrong instead of just constantly pushing that my read is wrong. how does it make sense for his main reason to scumread me to be over me being stubborn about tonereads after last game? like, i do not get how you can think like this as town, or how you can say lolol you mafia, not gonna reconsider ever, concede bitch to truffle and then call that questioning him -_- @marv...i was mislynched earlier this week for that same line of reasoning. sandy dropped me as a scumread in carnaval because despite my team shitting the bed and even implicating me, my filter was fucking pristine, and i was the most prolific player in the game. not. alignment. indicative. like, if you want to know post-game why i'm burning out and actually care, i'll talk to you about it, but i'm not going to whine in thread about it beyond saying i really don't understand how people think i should put in so much effort repeating myself a million times while simultaneously ignoring what i'm actually doing. it makes me not want to play anymore | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:15 GMT
#4643
i just...i don't even you're not reading again, marv. the point wasn't that it's not "scummy" the point was for me it doesn't mean shit -_- i'm not playing poorly >< like i'm really not fucking playing poorly. i'm not as active d3/d4 of himalayas, ruxxar's filter, please please please just look at it >< i don't do individual posts. i do overall play. i know that his beginning and end game were shit but he played WELL there, so obviously he can and y'all aren't seeing the full picture, like i don't get this meh. i've got class again | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:16 GMT
#4645
On July 10 2015 22:10 Clarity_nl wrote: Rsoultin do you get some kinda notification on your phone when HF posts about you? ??? like this isn't accurate either? thanks for being a shit though? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:18 GMT
#4646
On July 10 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote: i always read. go away. alienating me by posting shit like that is not in your best interests whatever your alignment. yeah i really don't give a fuck when i say ruxxar is fucking pushing me for my tonereads when he saw me do the same fucking thing in the only game we played together and you sit there and very next post say i'm scumreading him for questions like fuck that you want to try and threaten me go ahead. i'm done with you if you can't pull your head out your ass for two seconds and actually try to understand what i'm getting at when i'm talking to you civilly i just...>< i can't talk to you people right now | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:22 GMT
#4649
i'm done with this | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:25 GMT
#4651
On July 10 2015 22:19 marvellosity wrote: my head out my ass? because i've treated you so unfairly this game or something? god you're a whiner. whine whine whine. waaa waaa waaa boohohoohohohohohohhohoohohohooo world's smallest violin. christ. honestly? yes. like you ignored what i was saying in my post because i said you didn't read, after missing what i said in my previous post. i wasn't even being bitchy until you got nasty about it, i tried to explain it again which you're still ignoring ruxxar is pushing me for shit he can't possibly believe after our last game together he is pushing me for tonereads tonereads tonereads tonereads after last game. like this is what irritates me so much. how do i explain this any better than i have? what do i need to SAY for people to understand? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:30 GMT
#4653
i've stayed too long anyway when you get a chance marv can you PLEASE revisit what i'm saying about ruxx in himalayas >< i'll even pretend the threatening doesn't piss me off | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:32 GMT
#4655
On July 10 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote: i tried to think of a way to say what i'm trying to say without cursing people out and i can't so yeah -_- whatever i've stayed too long anyway when you get a chance marv can you PLEASE revisit what i'm saying about ruxx in himalayas >< i'll even pretend the threatening doesn't piss me off it wasn't a threat. it was just a statement of truth. alienating me isn't a good idea, it's not a threat, it means if you're mafia i'll try to lynch you more and it means if you're town you'll get listened to less. There is no threat. But yes. I will go and read ruxx in Himalayas at some point. I'm lovely like that. thanks -_- yeah, sorry, i took it as a threat meh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 13:35 GMT
#4657
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:21 GMT
#4930
@damdy <3 u ^^ mood music! \o/ i took a swim...so nice lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:22 GMT
#4933
On July 11 2015 06:17 milo109 wrote: I would approve a switch from Damdred onto me, by the way. It probably makes life easier for town. nope damdy scum ^^ see the lack of whine? scum scum scum as if anything other than harkon being the other nk was needed to prove that xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:30 GMT
#4939
On July 11 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote: Rsscum because she knows I'm trying to stop that part trying and succeeding are two very different things, daaaamdy | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:32 GMT
#4941
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:38 GMT
#4946
On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax. I'm really curious what you meant with this quote: On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up. It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1. HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions. What do you think Dam will flip? I think damdred flips red. Damdred is playing totally different from the last game. Way too mellow for my taste. sheeping my toneread >> | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:39 GMT
#4949
On July 11 2015 06:37 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 11 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 11 2015 06:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 11 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote: On July 11 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 11 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote: On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter. what do you think about scott? I think he's red ok can you explain this read please. Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book. ok, so why do you want to lynch wave/vivax over him? Because wave and vivax are doing that bullshit lurky scum play where they show up, pop off a few posts and then go back into hiding as long as the thread isn't discussing them. It's frustrating to watch, hell I've done it as scum before, it's very tempting just to hide when you're feeling off your game and a partner is getting hammered. Scott at the very least has been around and sort of contributed. noted with a pen and paper! or sticky note...or moniiiieees! ahem ksc you're alive o.0 -pokes at zombie kels- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:40 GMT
#4951
On July 11 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax. I'm really curious what you meant with this quote: On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up. It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1. HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions. What do you think Dam will flip? I think damdred flips red. Damdred is playing totally different from the last game. Way too mellow for my taste. sheeping my toneread >> oh please.. ^^ you're welcome. anymore tonereads you'd like? i can sell them for a few bucks a piece | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:41 GMT
#4952
On July 11 2015 06:39 Vivax wrote: I find it odd you use his gameplay as justification for today's read when earlier you townread him and shit. Should have said it's only cause geript claimed son. <3 i don't usually <3 you but today, you get all my <3s ^^ except the one for damdy ^^ he gets one just cause of his awesome southern drawl lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:43 GMT
#4956
On July 11 2015 06:43 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax. I'm really curious what you meant with this quote: On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up. It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1. HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions. What do you think Dam will flip? I think damdred flips red. Damdred is playing totally different from the last game. Way too mellow for my taste. sheeping my toneread >> oh please.. ^^ you're welcome. anymore tonereads you'd like? i can sell them for a few bucks a piece All of them? mmmm that would be expensive xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:45 GMT
#4962
On July 11 2015 06:45 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax. I'm really curious what you meant with this quote: On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up. It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1. HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions. What do you think Dam will flip? I think damdred flips red. Damdred is playing totally different from the last game. Way too mellow for my taste. sheeping my toneread >> oh please.. ^^ you're welcome. anymore tonereads you'd like? i can sell them for a few bucks a piece It doesn't take a genius to see that damdreds behavior has flipped completely. Exactly the same reaction that mig had when he knew he was going to get lynched. read: geript caught him zzzzzz | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:47 GMT
#4966
boring there was like no need for you to say what you did...it was an obvious piggyback | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:47 GMT
#4967
On July 11 2015 06:46 Damdred wrote: I know who has your gun ^_- i really, really hope this isn't true >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:49 GMT
#4971
On July 11 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote: obvious boring there was like no need for you to say what you did...it was an obvious piggyback Piggyback on what? I answered a question directed at me. okay, fair enough lol >< it just was phrased eerily similar to what i said to milo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:51 GMT
#4978
On July 11 2015 06:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Making a mental note to ignore page 246-249 as it's just everyone shitting up the thread ^ totally not shitting up the thread | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:52 GMT
#4981
On July 11 2015 06:52 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Making a mental note to ignore page 246-249 as it's just everyone shitting up the thread Oh the irony. <3 so many <3 giveaways today lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:53 GMT
#4982
On July 11 2015 06:52 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:51 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Making a mental note to ignore page 246-249 as it's just everyone shitting up the thread ^ totally not shitting up the thread You need help on the definition of everyone | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:54 GMT
#4986
On July 11 2015 06:53 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote: obvious boring there was like no need for you to say what you did...it was an obvious piggyback Piggyback on what? I answered a question directed at me. okay, fair enough lol >< it just was phrased eerily similar to what i said to milo Do I look like Holyflare? Just relax ok? ^ pointless post ise haaaappy don't ruin it for me even scumlets must have a heart, ne? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 21:56 GMT
#4989
On July 11 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:53 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote: obvious boring there was like no need for you to say what you did...it was an obvious piggyback Piggyback on what? I answered a question directed at me. okay, fair enough lol >< it just was phrased eerily similar to what i said to milo Do I look like Holyflare? Just relax ok? ^ pointless post ise haaaappy don't ruin it for me even scumlets must have a heart, ne? A heart full of a evil :o too true, ls...too true :/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:09 GMT
#4999
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:44 GMT
#5018
On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation. lol neeeeervous? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:45 GMT
#5021
On July 11 2015 07:44 Holyflare wrote: No i can see through your inevitable shitty mafia play and will get you lynched if you do it. zzz i do what i want \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:48 GMT
#5024
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:49 GMT
#5028
On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation. I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that it's certainly clever wifom; i'll give him that lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 22:50 GMT
#5030
On July 11 2015 07:49 geript wrote: Also, I'm going to look into rsoultin for HF's sake. then look into him for my sake, bby...in fact, if you'd just open his case and ruxxar's right up next to my filter that would be lovely | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 23:17 GMT
#5040
ciao | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 23:26 GMT
#5043
On July 11 2015 08:20 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin can you give us your updated reads after you catch up? <3 i planned on hiding them in my cubby hole tho o.0 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 23:29 GMT
#5045
On July 11 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 08:25 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation. I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that Why? This post is as null as it gets. I disagree, I think it's super difficult for scum!HF to ever have these thoughts and present them in this way. I should really go to bed, lol lol >< who are you anyway? aren't you the same one who insta!townread him off his first post that was objectively nai? the gullibility is amazing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 10 2015 23:33 GMT
#5049
On July 11 2015 08:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 08:29 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 08:25 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation. I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that Why? This post is as null as it gets. I disagree, I think it's super difficult for scum!HF to ever have these thoughts and present them in this way. I should really go to bed, lol lol >< who are you anyway? aren't you the same one who insta!townread him off his first post that was objectively nai? the gullibility is amazing I mean honestly I just wanted to start the game off. Don't think his first post matters all that much yet this is the same sort of thinking? like, there are very few things that can't be said as both alignments. eh, it hardly matters...i was trying to figure out your alignment based off of damdy's reaction to the red check on you, but frankly i think that depends entirely on milo's alignment so meh back to filter diving | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 00:56 GMT
#5063
On July 11 2015 09:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Buuuuut, you're a smurf? Eh whatever, I think some people called you JAT on d1. You're nearly confirmed town in my eyes, just curious. Do you currently think HF is likely scum? Like I'm trying to imagine anyone else in this game playing the way he's played and I feel he would be a strong townread for anyone, is his scumgame really that good? >.< Don't wanna level myself, I think he's town, sticking to it for now. yes his scumgame is that good i know for whatever reason you seem to think my play is mafia-esque...haven't checked why and don't really care cause you're wrong by default...but the simple truth is he's hard to catch just won himalayas when he was fucking red-checked...survived three days after the check. and ippo before that. in both i was one of the only ones pushing/distrusting him the when we shitfight he's most likely scum read is pretty legit...lol >< and frankly, despite what ls and hf have both said this game, the reverse has never been true. ls fucking forgot this last game and lost the game for everyone...even after i flipped after calling out the entire scumteam two nights in a row so yeah. if you wonder why i'm so easily frustrated, that's a major part of it. people want to hold me to this high-fluting standard of activity while ignoring my reads | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 00:57 GMT
#5064
On July 11 2015 09:47 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 09:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Buuuuut, you're a smurf? Eh whatever, I think some people called you JAT on d1. You're nearly confirmed town in my eyes, just curious. Do you currently think HF is likely scum? Like I'm trying to imagine anyone else in this game playing the way he's played and I feel he would be a strong townread for anyone, is his scumgame really that good? >.< Don't wanna level myself, I think he's town, sticking to it for now. I think HF is likely scum, yes. It's not 100 % but it's not a "I am paranoid and do not townread him" read. Fortunately we will have 2-3 lynches until he becomes relevant and if he is town he will be dead by then so it will only become more obvious. If he isn't dead then you should lynch him. If he ever is alive in LYLO you MUST lynch him. jat is one of the easiest people to read as a smurf lol >< his playstyle is pretty distinctive and yeah, tbf this read applies to several people in the game, myself included | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:06 GMT
#5073
On July 11 2015 09:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 09:56 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Buuuuut, you're a smurf? Eh whatever, I think some people called you JAT on d1. You're nearly confirmed town in my eyes, just curious. Do you currently think HF is likely scum? Like I'm trying to imagine anyone else in this game playing the way he's played and I feel he would be a strong townread for anyone, is his scumgame really that good? >.< Don't wanna level myself, I think he's town, sticking to it for now. yes his scumgame is that good i know for whatever reason you seem to think my play is mafia-esque...haven't checked why and don't really care cause you're wrong by default...but the simple truth is he's hard to catch just won himalayas when he was fucking red-checked...survived three days after the check. and ippo before that. in both i was one of the only ones pushing/distrusting him the when we shitfight he's most likely scum read is pretty legit...lol >< and frankly, despite what ls and hf have both said this game, the reverse has never been true. ls fucking forgot this last game and lost the game for everyone...even after i flipped after calling out the entire scumteam two nights in a row so yeah. if you wonder why i'm so easily frustrated, that's a major part of it. people want to hold me to this high-fluting standard of activity while ignoring my reads So do you still read me as scum? Yeah I'm getting more and more certain you're scum, I'll put my thoughts together at some point. Remind me, are you onboard with lynching milo? xP this is why i can't take you seriously actually this whole post is he was in my lynch list, yes, but i did want to review his filter instead of auto. i wanted to lynch him d1 before his claim -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:08 GMT
#5074
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:10 GMT
#5077
hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:12 GMT
#5079
On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead? eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:16 GMT
#5082
On July 11 2015 10:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? I completely forgot about milo. I remember townreading him for something but I've been pretty afk for the majority of today due to the sheer number of lynches we have set up already. Aren't we already lynching him too? auto doesn't make me comfortable? but probably. like i dunnae...it's a silly thing that's making me waffle on him somewhat...mostly just that sitting there basically flailing about not lynching damdred seems like an obviously poor play when there's almost no chance damdy isn't getting lynched? i dunnae. i have no clue what standard of play i should hold him to >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:21 GMT
#5089
On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that. Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo..... ah i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP) ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve but i don't really want to talk about him right now (and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:28 GMT
#5096
On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that. Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo..... ah i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP) ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve but i don't really want to talk about him right now (and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo) it was before lol >< yeah i really am not keeping things straight at all this game nh, disregard that entire train of thought, then regardless, don't see much value in scum!milo and scum!damdy faking a red and insta!voting on a scummate? kinda useless wifom, that. so again it all comes back to milo's alignment like if he's town and assuming there's only one mafia rb and scum gambled for some reason, damdy may have voted so fast because clarity is red, but i find that unlikely...more likely to just kill both rit and milo if they're both town and not take the risk | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:29 GMT
#5097
On July 11 2015 10:23 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that. Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo..... ah i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP) ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve but i don't really want to talk about him right now (and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo) That's why you should read the thread. It was before the claim. no worries lol it's a habit of mine to read the context around weird posts. there's just a lot of this thread that is useless and my eyes were getting bleary @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:31 GMT
#5100
On July 11 2015 10:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that. Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo..... ah i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP) ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve but i don't really want to talk about him right now (and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo) Milo withdrew the fake check like immediately, before he got any info, not that he would have since in his story he is roleblocked by mafia, so if I am mafia I know I didn't get red checked. It's part of my case, you should read it along with OWS! true lol >< i'm being retarded right now. if he's town there's definitely a second mafia rb ignore the stupid | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:32 GMT
#5101
On July 11 2015 10:29 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:28 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol >< I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that. Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo..... ah i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP) ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve but i don't really want to talk about him right now (and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo) it was before lol >< yeah i really am not keeping things straight at all this game nh, disregard that entire train of thought, then regardless, don't see much value in scum!milo and scum!damdy faking a red and insta!voting on a scummate? kinda useless wifom, that. so again it all comes back to milo's alignment like if he's town and assuming there's only one mafia rb and scum gambled for some reason, damdy may have voted so fast because clarity is red, but i find that unlikely...more likely to just kill both rit and milo if they're both town and not take the risk rit is confirmed down, dear. omg I pulled a marv, DID YOU SEE THAT??!?!? i know? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:32 GMT
#5102
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:46 GMT
#5104
On July 11 2015 10:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:20 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 11 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? I completely forgot about milo. I remember townreading him for something but I've been pretty afk for the majority of today due to the sheer number of lynches we have set up already. Aren't we already lynching him too? auto doesn't make me comfortable? but probably. like i dunnae...it's a silly thing that's making me waffle on him somewhat...mostly just that sitting there basically flailing about not lynching damdred seems like an obviously poor play when there's almost no chance damdy isn't getting lynched? i dunnae. i have no clue what standard of play i should hold him to >< I still don't particularly understand why Damdred/milo were intertwined so much, defense aside. Milo was calling him confirmed town for some reason. Can someone explain that to me? There were 2 claimed cops night1. None of them was shot. Ritoky was roleblocked by mafia damdred. Still not seeing the connection? I am also aware of this. I just am not interested/don't care very much about things that I won't possibly have any impact on. Talk to me about scott. meh...i'm like halfway through his filter and i'm like...not really seeing what he's actually doing this game? for instance, he randomly wants to lynch me d1 but all i can get out of his filter for why is "she defended herself poorly" lol when i don't think i ever defended myself at all????? and that was buried in his list somewhere don't know why he wants to lynch mz read his points on milo and don't really get why he wants to kill him either, unless it's some weird associative thing between oats and milo...so then why doesn't he talk about oats? On July 09 2015 14:13 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote: On July 09 2015 12:23 milo109 wrote: Remember, Mafia knows I'm fake claiming. This was the one I had the hardest time contemplating. On one hand, it seems odd that he knows to do this instantly. On the other, this is playing right in to the fake claim trap. I -think- this makes Harkon townier, unless he is out metaing me. On July 09 2015 07:44 Harkon wrote: On July 09 2015 07:41 milo109 wrote: Red on Clarity. Do not try any bullshit. No plays, no tricks, no nothing. Did you really redcheck clarity? If you say yes then we will lynch you if you ever back out of it. This is also odd: I actually think that this is Damdred happy that he roleblocked a mafia. But... I have information that you don't have. That I'm town. On July 09 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote: And one of the cops has a red check on clarity hrmmm... My prideful side wants to say fuck yeah.... And then we have my favorite: Er... Holyflare.. Pls. This is not from a town point of view at all. On July 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote: Yeh we are never not lynching you ever. This one is interesting: I actually think this post and the one below it means I'm wrong on MZ. Or I'm an idiot and did a reaction test on town. I'll have to think over which is more likely. On July 09 2015 07:51 Clarity_nl wrote: How about we just lynch milo and when he flips red we don't kill me? "mafia knows im fake claiming" This is TMI if ive ever seen it Milo only posted in Guardians when he felt the need or had to -and he rolled mafia there. I've got that vibe the whole game so far. ^ closest thing i can find to an actual scumread on milo for reasons that remotely make sense, and this was after d1 okay yeah i don't see how anyone can read this guy town. more to the point, i've seen him spamming up obs qts countless times with much more involved reasoning than any of this...his thought process is almost impossible to follow here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:55 GMT
#5105
milo and mz are by and large his main focus with a couple brief segues onto other players. i know that he has a difficult time posting as scum so i guess it's more likely to buss in his case, with the added caveat that i'd expect scum to be distancing from mz and milo like they're radioactive right now if both are scum lol >< but still | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 01:57 GMT
#5106
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:05 GMT
#5108
On July 11 2015 11:01 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote: didn't hf say he was townreading scott? i'd really like to know why >< (and am i talking to myself again? cause if so i'll just shut up and stop spamming up the thread) Don't let that stop you. Hf townread him for that one listpost he made. And yeah, you will be alone now. meh you guys suck nah i see it wishy washy waffly everywhere list, don't like, wait list, oh now he's back in poe, wait town again -_- like, as far as i can tell the only reason hf "likes" scott is he kinda agrees with him? yo, hf, what happened to basing your reads off whether someone actually looks like they're trying to solve the game or not? can you honestly read scott's filter and say he's trying to do that at all? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:08 GMT
#5111
stating the obvious is boring | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:15 GMT
#5112
On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead? eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol >< Read the damn thread. missed this post yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:18 GMT
#5113
On July 11 2015 10:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? I completely forgot about milo. I remember townreading him for something but I've been pretty afk for the majority of today due to the sheer number of lynches we have set up already. Aren't we already lynching him too? auto doesn't make me comfortable? but probably. like i dunnae...it's a silly thing that's making me waffle on him somewhat...mostly just that sitting there basically flailing about not lynching damdred seems like an obviously poor play when there's almost no chance damdy isn't getting lynched? i dunnae. i have no clue what standard of play i should hold him to >< I still don't particularly understand why Damdred/milo were intertwined so much, defense aside. Milo was calling him confirmed town for some reason. Can someone explain that to me? everyone was saying milo was scum if damdred flipped scum? lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:23 GMT
#5116
On July 11 2015 11:19 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead? eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol >< Read the damn thread. missed this post yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP That comes as a surprise. lol are you flirting with me? zzzz @ ruxx coming into to blabber about obvious mechanics then peacing out | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:23 GMT
#5118
you needed over 10 minutes to write that? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:29 GMT
#5123
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote: i stand corrected lol >< you needed over 10 minutes to write that? When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions. yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP talk to me about the fake redcheck | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:30 GMT
#5125
On July 11 2015 11:26 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 11:19 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo? Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead? eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol >< Read the damn thread. missed this post yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP That comes as a surprise. lol are you flirting with me? zzzz @ ruxx coming into to blabber about obvious mechanics then peacing out wut? lol apparently i'm kinkier than you are. shame | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:31 GMT
#5129
On July 11 2015 11:29 marvellosity wrote: hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hiiiiiii ^^ i swam. it was blissful! \o/ do you get why hf likes scott? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:34 GMT
#5135
On July 11 2015 11:30 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin you should be catching up with the thread. Nothing more. Not sure you've particulalry posted anything in your last flurry of posts at all. Either way to answer your question my semi town read is scott is based on his list post. It ticked all the right boxes at the time and i don't really care that it's wishy washy I would be incredibly impressed if he had that list as mafia. Only gripe I had was the ritoky read he gave in it though. Just because i read some people on solving the game doesn't mean it applies to everyone either. was the first part really necessary? lol of course you liked his list post...it was ego-strokey. like seriously if you're town i think that you're having the same problem with several players this game. you should probably consider that in your reads, just saying, cause you're flat-out wrong on me xP (see, i'm trying to give you the room you asked for lol ><) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:37 GMT
#5137
On July 11 2015 11:32 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 11:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 11:29 marvellosity wrote: hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hiiiiiii ^^ i swam. it was blissful! \o/ do you get why hf likes scott? well i've not read what he said and i can't remember what he said before i do remember looking at his filter like 10 times at the end of day 1 trying to be sure enough to start a wagon on him but i never was, but i can't remember right now why meh probably cause it's just a whole lot of nothing, but i don't know what you saw either xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:46 GMT
#5140
On July 11 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote: Yes it wqs necessary because all the questions you're asking seem super redundant and forced and you're not even sure of events that took place so it's not particularly helpful at all. Why am I having that problem with several people? The majority of people in my scum list so far are people that are incredibly likely to flip mafia. In fact the only reasom damdred was ever tentatively removed was because i trusted in one of your tells on him being demotivated when scum read otherwise i would have him solidly on there. If anything i am super on point so far. Scott's post was ego stroking how? His list appeared at a time where i didn't exactly make my thoughts known and it's pretty hard to conjure up a list like that if you're mafia since it was far too accurate. Even all the little quips about people. don't obstruct me, please. i'm actually in a good mood right now, and blaming your damdy read on me when i was saying i didn't feel good about him this game...all game...just looks a lot like you're trying to shift blame how is conjuring up a "far too accurate" list townie? how do you know it's accurate? like really >< i mean i think it's pretty obvious how it's ego-stroking when he was sheeping several of your reads | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:51 GMT
#5144
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote: i stand corrected lol >< you needed over 10 minutes to write that? When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions. yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP talk to me about the fake redcheck What do you want to know? I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive. Keep in mind that this was before geript outed. I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it. Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer. I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it. yet you think milo is scum? like you made this case for him before geript's claim, and then you said he should be auto? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:52 GMT
#5146
On July 11 2015 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool flip. Shoot MZ. Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. Did you ever read Scotts previous games? He seems pretty much the same, lurky and not that useful. ... -_- i don't get why he's all gung ho in the obs qt but useless in games, then meh one more thing to look through | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 02:54 GMT
#5148
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:00 GMT
#5156
On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should Do you have a read on wave? complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:02 GMT
#5159
On July 11 2015 11:58 Holyflare wrote: You should simply read the game rsoultin because you are missing the night posts where milo horrendously tmi's up the thread with mz reads and mz tmi's up the thread with milo and ritoky reads and you're missing all of the fun bits that are actually useful to this game. what quips? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:03 GMT
#5160
On July 11 2015 12:01 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should Do you have a read on wave? complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days Did you not just see him put the same effort into a game you are co hosting and he was town? nope ^^ if you're talking about yamato's game, i wasn't a real cohost lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:05 GMT
#5161
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote: Pointless Conversation + Show Spoiler + On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote: Hi. I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong. Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbqGkS1c2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8 but, but, but... this was our favorite! ;o; judas On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote: Do you normally miss jokes?Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote: On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote: On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote: ##vote trfel Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: Do not! Only that one time....Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post.... On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't even....Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote: Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...chem work to do... On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote: This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't. On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote: Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote: Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare. I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling. Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him. It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result. Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game) This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda. I don't like this post at all. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote: On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote: Hype! And already information. Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up. Not lynching him today. strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim? Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy... Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote: You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping. I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5 Shit load of xP, shes mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9 way less xP, shes town. Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia. Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote. Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count. I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is. Good case - could sheep... This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote: Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas. Yeah and im no cop. I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way... I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love. 1) Marvellosity townie after the morning 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town 5) ruXxar slight town 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel 7) Bill Murray wanderer claim 8) ritoky slight town 9) geript slight town 10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too 13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave 18) Breshke Ehh 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost 23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread. ^ maybe we define quips differently, but half of this is just...obvious nonsense | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:07 GMT
#5163
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:08 GMT
#5168
On July 11 2015 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should Do you have a read on wave? complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days So why do you want him to get vigged? You don't have stronger scumreads? lol you're not serious, surely | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:09 GMT
#5169
On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: Let's just call it tone and be done with it instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:19 GMT
#5177
On July 11 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: Let's just call it tone and be done with it instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not? Holy fucking shit this is the most pointless exercise in existence. I liked the fact that he pointed out all the little things like milo town reading 3 ppl etc stc. I liked his little intuitive rsoul deflecting shit. I don't remember off the top of my head what exactly gave me warm fuzzy feelings because it was 10,000 pages ago. It aligned with my thoughts in absolutely every way but ritoky. That's absolutely all i remember about it. Go read the game because this is downright pointless since you don't trust me and you don't like my read on scott either. it's not pointless for me but i'll stop talking to you since you want that and can't seem to just talk ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:21 GMT
#5179
On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote: That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff. lots of bad associations in it, in all honesty lol >< and a lot of other useless drivel. i don't get why people post lists and include people they have nothing to say about | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:47 GMT
#5191
i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently (<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though) also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:48 GMT
#5192
On July 11 2015 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows. I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy. I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude. don't agree with vivax or breshke :/ ows i need to read closer but i've liked him when he was in thread? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:55 GMT
#5198
mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#5203
On July 11 2015 12:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 12:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows. I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy. I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude. don't agree with vivax or breshke :/ ows i need to read closer but i've liked him when he was in thread? So you think vivax has been posting stuff that makes sense and is reasonable? Cause I don't. Why is breshke town? lol i don't expect to be on the same wavelength as vivax any more than i expect to be on the same wavelength as you xP but i can follow where both of you are coming from and i think the conviction with vivax is town-indicative. his scum game is super easy to pick out cause he really just doesn't play it's how breshke reasons things? i don't even worry about what he actually says when he talks when i read him...i look for the deeper level analysis that is always present in his town play. it's actually kind of similar to how geript reads damdy, if i read the spoiler correctly...his approach to the game is alignment-indicative | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 04:19 GMT
#5227
On July 11 2015 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 11 2015 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Scott isn't boring at all. The rest is a product of not posting. He is though. Are you gonna put in any effort at all? Rsoul, can you explain exactly what it is that makes breshke town this game just like geript did for damdred. okay so with breshke it's that he thinks about the game from both sides. you know how i asked him if he would be my devil's advocate this game? someone will say something, and breshke will say yeah i can see that but if you look at it like this... he also has a very interesting way of using the setup to think about the game. his read on me that changed after just one post, when he reasoned it out, was particularly good, especially because he deliberately set it up a certain way to test my reaction? lol >< i hate trying to describe tonereads i really do...but it kind of comes down to it's legitimately hard for ANY player to think of the game the same way as mafia as they do as town. even your best scum players may be able to fake it for awhile but eventually they say things that they just can't believe. breshke's way of weighing both sides of an argument and deciding where he falls after reasoning it out is something i haven't seen him capable of replicating as scum the last bit is just personal for me. i can be as oblique as i want and he gets what i'm saying when he's town xP that's how i know we're reading the same game (i.e. he's trying to solve it) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 04:20 GMT
#5229
On July 11 2015 13:18 Vivax wrote: I still can't believe BM got lynched over him after the latter claimed. he claimed like at the beginning of the game and then fucked off? it wasn't the best lynch, but as default lynches go cause people kept claiming shit it wasn't horrible i guess | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:02 GMT
#5268
"if even oats" xP only you could manage to insult two people at once without trying, hark | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:04 GMT
#5270
<< so...i did something amazing wanna guess what it is? ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:06 GMT
#5272
On July 11 2015 22:05 Harkon wrote: You read the damn thread? \o/ lol, you're a mindreader or something xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:07 GMT
#5274
do i get a cookie? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:10 GMT
#5276
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:12 GMT
#5278
On July 11 2015 22:11 Harkon wrote: I have a pretty good idea since you know I read it before you did. >> why you have to be logical? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:15 GMT
#5281
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:18 GMT
#5282
On July 11 2015 22:14 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 18:12 geript wrote: I think my preferred next lynch is rsoultin. I'll explain why later. But feel free to discuss. I've admitted before I could be wrong on my previous town read on her but I feel I'm seeing enough town tells in her limited posting. But it's Saturday... People have already brought up the shit fighting before but if I had to draw any parallels from her scum game in a scum Rasputin world.... I know she was somewhat combative (but not like this????) in Carnaval. The key word being somewhat. Maybe combative might not be the right word but snappy. I sort of remember how she went on (I think????) VayneAuthority in that game but it wasn't like here. Not sure if I can conclude definitively on this point alone esp not re-reading filters first. One thing with her is if she is accused of being scum she does get flustered and posts to stall for a response are common. You could argue that it goes hand in hand with the shitfighting in this game. There is also another scum tell that comes to mind but should a scum Ras still be alive then it's not going to be relevant until late game, irrespective of who else is still around. Wait and see... It will be harder to meta her partially because of inactivity and I'm not sure any parallels I make for a scum Rasputin are that strong. Even the shitfighting brought to mind of how she was in Himalayas when people didn't get certain elements she did. Reactions might be the only scum tell that could check out. Damdred did mention her as scum in his post but he did other people....unless you meant maybe there's something in him not talking about her all game and then she just winds up on his final post or something. I don't really recall any interaction between them early on, or nothing memorable. So maybe he skirted around her (I don't remember any comments offhand earlier on shitfighting) which might be indicative given how much attention she got from others on shitfighting. Damdred also mentioned Trfel in that post and the usual others milo and mZ it could be something or it could be nothing. I just know from reading flipped scum Damdred in the past (namely Titanic 7) I have not been great at picking the scum from his posts. Again I realise I'm rambling but overall I don't think these points are that strong. Maybe the reactions but offhand that's all I have. Need to re-read Damdred. I'd love to hear your thoughts esp if you are seeing something I'm not. given he's sitting on it, probably has to do with something he doesn't understand, but it's cool ^^ -stretches- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:19 GMT
#5284
On July 11 2015 22:18 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:15 rsoultin wrote: so slept rsoul realized how stupid tired rsoul was being last night lol >< milo should never be shot Maybe you get one half of a cookie. yay! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:21 GMT
#5286
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:22 GMT
#5287
On July 11 2015 22:20 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote: ;o; dude you have no idea. i should get two cookies for reading all this blather lol >< If I've not been clear I'm going to hold you to higher expectations now that it's the weekend. So if you've read through do you have anything on any issue not already beaten to death? i've talked about most things already that weren't brought up? not all, though ^^ zzz don't like threats | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:26 GMT
#5289
thing is...he'd kinda do that anyway xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:30 GMT
#5291
On July 11 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax - scum lean EBH - still null BF - town lean - not memorable but struggles in scum hunting align with previous games. Oats is a sparse poster I want to say town lean because he is clashing with everyone, in down under 2 he seemed to want to fly under the radar. (Not even considering carol since he really did jack all that game) I know he's not a big case poster but that's the overall impression I get from his posts. He's putting himself out there. Scott is the other one I need to reread. And KSC I still need to recheck. yeah that reminds me that i wanted to look at scott's town games. my idea of how he plays is actually what he says in the obs qt lol >< as for kels...the difference between here and himalayas is night and day? i really liked his early game, though, so meh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:32 GMT
#5293
On July 11 2015 22:31 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 22:20 Half the Sky wrote: On July 11 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote: ;o; dude you have no idea. i should get two cookies for reading all this blather lol >< If I've not been clear I'm going to hold you to higher expectations now that it's the weekend. So if you've read through do you have anything on any issue not already beaten to death? i've talked about most things already that weren't brought up? not all, though ^^ zzz don't like threats I'll be more specific - I'm talking about two things: 1 people that might at this stage be question marks 2 town reads that you might have to reconsider for any reason i'm aware of what you're talking about, hts lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:34 GMT
#5295
On July 11 2015 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax - scum lean EBH - still null BF - town lean - not memorable but struggles in scum hunting align with previous games. Oats is a sparse poster I want to say town lean because he is clashing with everyone, in down under 2 he seemed to want to fly under the radar. (Not even considering carol since he really did jack all that game) I know he's not a big case poster but that's the overall impression I get from his posts. He's putting himself out there. Scott is the other one I need to reread. And KSC I still need to recheck. yeah that reminds me that i wanted to look at scott's town games. my idea of how he plays is actually what he says in the obs qt lol >< as for kels...the difference between here and himalayas is night and day? i really liked his early game, though, so meh Yeah I can agree that he's decided to do jack shit since he got townread by everyone. He is in another game as well now though? Guess we'll see. yuuuuup he is. cohosting that one \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:46 GMT
#5298
On July 11 2015 22:42 Harkon wrote: I generally hate it when people play multiple games and only do things in one of them. This applies to someone else too. lol xP i'm only barely keeping track of that in all honesty ehhhhhhhh my problem with scott's game here is it's kinda...okay in all honesty he barely posts as either alignment, but i'm seeing things better reasoned in both his scum and town games -_- so looking through them all is kind of a wash | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:50 GMT
#5300
On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or? It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb eh it's kind of a longshot but it's the better play to leave him alone just in case his claim is true and he can get off a check...even if we then lynch him, we can at least know the check is real? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:52 GMT
#5302
On July 11 2015 22:52 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or? It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb If milo is cop he is a horrific shot, if he isn't we lynch him anyways. beat you xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:53 GMT
#5305
On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or? It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world. so you basically think milo is town or you're living an a 2 RB world separate of his alignment? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:55 GMT
#5308
On July 11 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 11 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax - scum lean EBH - still null BF - town lean - not memorable but struggles in scum hunting align with previous games. Oats is a sparse poster I want to say town lean because he is clashing with everyone, in down under 2 he seemed to want to fly under the radar. (Not even considering carol since he really did jack all that game) I know he's not a big case poster but that's the overall impression I get from his posts. He's putting himself out there. Scott is the other one I need to reread. And KSC I still need to recheck. lol 16 page filter "sparse poster". This game man. That was probably a bad choice of words on my end. I'm referring to the fact you don't have a lot of content in your posts. i like oats :/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:57 GMT
#5315
unless you just generally think people are too retarded to figure that out for themselves when the time comes | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 13:58 GMT
#5317
On July 11 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote: did i actually miss anything in all the pages i haven't read? depends on which pages you haven't read? xP though probably not sleepy thread | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:00 GMT
#5320
On July 11 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote: On July 11 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote: On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or? It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world. so you basically think milo is town or you're living an a 2 RB world separate of his alignment? Separate of his alignment. They're intertwined. We know that damdred roleblocked ritoky. We know that milo claimed roleblocked. Both happened night 1. This means that if there is a second roleblocker, milo is 100% town. you're missing that he still could have fake-claimed and then fake-claimed a roleblock lol >< even if there were another rb, cause not everyone is notified? i don't find it the moooost likely scenario with 2 mafia rb's just because of how he hard-aligned with damdred, though, which is why i thought it strange hts would think there could be 2 but didn't take it into account with her milo read | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:03 GMT
#5323
On July 11 2015 23:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 11 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote: On July 11 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote: On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or? It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world. so you basically think milo is town or you're living an a 2 RB world separate of his alignment? Separate of his alignment. They're intertwined. We know that damdred roleblocked ritoky. We know that milo claimed roleblocked. Both happened night 1. This means that if there is a second roleblocker, milo is 100% town. you're missing that he still could have fake-claimed and then fake-claimed a roleblock lol >< even if there were another rb, cause not everyone is notified? i don't find it the moooost likely scenario with 2 mafia rb's just because of how he hard-aligned with damdred, though, which is why i thought it strange hts would think there could be 2 but didn't take it into account with her milo read Nah cause why would scum!milo fakeclaim being roleblocked when he knows that they roleblocked ritoky and X. If X is a powerrole he gets counterclaimed and lynched. he claimed cop xP rit had already claimed roleblock. and he started out with a fake red check so -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:04 GMT
#5326
like i said though, hard-aligning with damdred doesn't make that terribly likely anyway | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:06 GMT
#5332
On July 11 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote: Generally a scumplay which relies on trying to convince the thread there are 2 mafia roleblockers, which is practically unprecedented, is very strange. yeah lol >< i doubt that was the initial intention if milo's scum...like geript's track on damdy obviously wasn't planned for | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:11 GMT
#5337
On July 11 2015 23:10 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:07 Harkon wrote: On July 11 2015 23:06 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: yes Harkon is right. ruxaorara's points on milo were a bit better though. it's all kinda weird. I swear if I get a gun, I'm going to shoot you 100%. Don't be mad at him, ruxor. Like, it's not hard to get my name right. Either you type ruxxar or you can type ruxx. You know that a persons name is their most precious belonging? q.q /endrant lol >< marv just can't help himself xP though i guess you haven't played with him before, have you? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:13 GMT
#5340
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:14 GMT
#5342
<3 clarity | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:14 GMT
#5345
On July 11 2015 23:14 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote: at least he doesn't call you cow? -beats marv with a wet noodle- swamprat asshole ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:17 GMT
#5349
On July 11 2015 23:14 Half the Sky wrote: From a mechanics standpoint I'm just trying to consider that with 4 conf blues flying around (DT rit, tracker, banisher, and gunsmith) how aren't there two RBs? What scum setup with 1 RB would counter all that? honestly it's why it was obvious there were fake claims flying around? i see what you mean, and this is a good reason why milo shouldn't be the auto lynch, cause it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility for there to be two mafia rbs | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:19 GMT
#5352
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:24 GMT
#5358
On July 11 2015 23:22 ruXxar wrote: What makes the 2 RB world more likely, is that the fact that even though some roles are only 1 or 2 shot, the fact that you have so many of them and they can all be used independently, really stacks the game in towns favor. lol only really if there are actually 2 cops and a tracker xP tbh...and even then tracker is somewhat nerfed cop anyway, it's a huge game, and having only 1-2 shots for at least all the claimed roles means they use it when the game is still large enough that the likelihood of catching scum on a check is still pretty small | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:26 GMT
#5360
On July 11 2015 23:24 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:19 rsoultin wrote: like...the banisher and gunsmith roles are largely uneffected by roleblockers anyway, right? Scum RB supersedes all roles so no. you're wrong xP like technically you're right but you're still wrong since most everything in this game is refunded | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:28 GMT
#5361
the simple truth is if milo is actually town and not fake-claiming cop, that will resolve the rb issue one way or another | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:35 GMT
#5369
\o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:38 GMT
#5371
it's like i've seen this reasoning before | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:39 GMT
#5374
On July 11 2015 23:34 Vivax wrote: We talking roles and mechanics now? Booooring. Show nested quote + Doc Bum pulled out a folder and held up a large picture of a person smiling with a name at the bottom of the photo. It said - HolyFlare- Geript looked at the photo and bum asked him "How does this picture make you feel" Geript shrugged and said "alright I guess". Doc bum nodded and jotted down some notes. He then pulled another large photo of a person smiling this one had marvelosity written at the bottom. "And how does this one make you feel geript?" Bum asked softly. Geript eyed up the pic and again shrugged. "I dont know. Im fine." he said with a bored look. "Hmmkay good good" doc bum said as he jotted in his notepad again. He once again pulled out a pic of a person smiling this time the name said BlazingHand and held it up to geript. Upon seeing the grinning Blazinghand person he started to twitch and turn red. the vein in his forehead began to tick as if keeping time. sweat poured out of geripts skin and he started to growl a deep guttural growl of primal anger. I was shocked at the amount of rage radiating from the center of the room. Doc Bum asked again "how does this pic make you feel geript" Geript Screamed a howling roar of a mad man who had just swan dived off the edge of sanity and flipped the table in front of him with a violent jerk. Geripts eyes rolled wildly in his head as gmarsh motioned to the back of the room and two orderlies in white coats stepped into the light behind him. I seen the name tags "Kush" and "Viscera" as the clamped their hands down on his back. Geript struggled against them and kush muttered. "Dont make me get the hose again" This only seemed to send geript into more spasms of rage. doc bum put the picture back in the folder and snapped it shut quickly, jotted some more stuff in his note pad and frowned. "as you can see" Gmarsh started "There is quite a bit of leftover hostility from previous mafia games in geripts mind that can become quite a problem as the anger stacks up, but we think we may have found the solution" he nodded at doc bum and said "begin post game behavior modification sequence." Bum walked over to a control panel and pushed a button. Gmarsh turned back around to me and started to speak again. "You see we have installed this bad behavior preventative measure into each of our spiffy tlmafia collars that will automatically engage at the end of every game to assure that there will never be any hard feelings left lingering from previous matches in the next round of mafia." Just then I heard a small mechanical whirling noise emitting from geript as a small shiny contraption folded out of the back of the collar. It looked like a tiny metal pen and sounded similar to one of those electric pencil sharpeners. The object poked into the back of the subjects head and began to whirl vigorously. lol fun as pencil lobotomies are, care to spice it up any viva? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:43 GMT
#5377
On July 11 2015 23:40 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense. not offended what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:49 GMT
#5381
On July 11 2015 23:48 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:40 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense. not offended what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself. demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:50 GMT
#5382
to me it's like tina! why is the sky red? but it's blue? why is it red? it's not? >< why won't you give me a straight answer? why is the sky red, tina?! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:53 GMT
#5386
On July 11 2015 23:51 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:48 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:40 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense. not offended what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself. demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP uh.... you spent the whole of d1 arguing with HF who was just trying to push trfel i was trying to push hf -_- if you want to call it deflection and assume we're both scum, that's one thing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:55 GMT
#5389
On July 11 2015 23:51 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:48 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:40 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense. not offended what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself. demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP This post: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. i am not going to go line-by-line with this post and actually point out all the things you're misrepresenting or leaving out, ruxxar. it's not worth my time, and it insults your intelligence i want you to quote actual posts where i was actively disrupting people getting a read on trfel not repost a made-up dialogue | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:56 GMT
#5391
On July 11 2015 23:54 Harkon wrote: Why are you discussing this shit again? Does anyone think it will be more productive than the last 10 times? i have my reasons, jat. namely, i want to see if his reasoning makes any sense | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 14:59 GMT
#5394
On July 11 2015 23:57 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:54 Harkon wrote: Why are you discussing this shit again? Does anyone think it will be more productive than the last 10 times? That's why I said I'd come to terms with not getting a clear answer. I don't want to shit up the thread again. if you can keep a straight head i can? marv's right. i think you're scum right now because of how you've approached me. but maybe i'm just not seeing what you're getting at? so i want you to explain to me which posts made you think i was disrupting people from getting reads on trfel | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:01 GMT
#5397
On July 12 2015 00:00 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:55 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:51 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:48 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:40 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ i'm out for a bit btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense. not offended what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself. demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP This post: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. i am not going to go line-by-line with this post and actually point out all the things you're misrepresenting or leaving out, ruxxar. it's not worth my time, and it insults your intelligence i want you to quote actual posts where i was actively disrupting people getting a read on trfel not repost a made-up dialogue That dialogue is based on real quotes. I can post the quotes I made the recap from instead if that makes you happy. you think the entire dialogues were me disrupting people from getting reads on trfel? so what don't you agree with in that big post i wrote about them? like i said, i thought i was very clear, but you still kept asking. so what don't you understand? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:04 GMT
#5401
On July 12 2015 00:03 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote: On July 11 2015 23:57 ruXxar wrote: On July 11 2015 23:54 Harkon wrote: Why are you discussing this shit again? Does anyone think it will be more productive than the last 10 times? That's why I said I'd come to terms with not getting a clear answer. I don't want to shit up the thread again. if you can keep a straight head i can? marv's right. i think you're scum right now because of how you've approached me. but maybe i'm just not seeing what you're getting at? so i want you to explain to me which posts made you think i was disrupting people from getting reads on trfel This is what I'll do. Since you think the paraphrasing is misrepresenting what you did, I'll just put together the quotes instead. Give me some time. not if you're just going to quote everything that's superfluous if you think the entire behavior as a whole was disruptive, then what don't you get/agree with in my explanation of it? i can requote the post if you don't remember | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:05 GMT
#5402
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote: okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him ^ i went into great detail here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:13 GMT
#5403
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:16 GMT
#5404
On July 11 2015 23:52 Vivax wrote: rso disrupting people while they try to form reads on others is perfectly within her town meta I can assure you heh xP you hate this about my play, but i honestly don't see it. like i really don't get how stating my own opinions on things is any different than anyone else stating theirs? not that this really matters, but this is just not the first time you've said something like this lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:20 GMT
#5406
On July 12 2015 00:19 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote: ...i get the feeling i'm about to see a spoiler full of about 10 pages worth of quotes lol >< That's not what I'm putting together. I'm putting together the quotes I based my paraphrasing on, which you said was incorrect and misrepresenting you. that's pointless because part of the problem, ruxxar, is you're omitting chunks of the exchange in your "paraphrase" anyway just explain to me what your problem is? it shouldn't be hard to explain when you've been pushing it this long | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:25 GMT
#5409
On July 12 2015 00:22 marvellosity wrote: let him do his thing, and if you don't like what it is, you can have discussion after it's less not liking what it is, marv, and more already knowing what he's going to post and i'd rather not spend hours doing something that should be easily resolved or at least explained in 20 minutes >< him reposting all those posts doesn't explain why he sees them as disruptive or why he's ignoring all the ones in between so it's just not...eh whatever. he's gonna do what he wants anyway | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:28 GMT
#5413
On July 12 2015 00:24 geript wrote: Marv have you read Tina's filter? are you planning on ever posting your read? lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:28 GMT
#5414
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:32 GMT
#5416
On July 12 2015 00:29 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote: On July 12 2015 00:24 geript wrote: Marv have you read Tina's filter? not a chance Well do it and use control+f to search for Damdred. I just find it really exceptionally odd how often she talks about not liking his LS read (or reads in general) while not seeming to have an opinion on Damdred whatsoever. ??? i don't ctrl+f my own filter cause that's retarded, but i know that i talked about him quite frequently? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:34 GMT
#5418
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:41 GMT
#5419
i usually refer to damdred as "damdy" and sometimes elongate it to "daaaamdy" or something lol you miss about 50 posts if you spell his name the correct way xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:47 GMT
#5423
i do kinda get it cause yeah i thought i talked about him more than i did...his ls read was bugging me a lot but i got distracted lol @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:48 GMT
#5424
On July 12 2015 00:47 Holyflare wrote: I don't know what rsoultin has done since she has caught up other than repeat what we already discussed last night that milo was a bad shot and say it like its a new opinion. i'm withholding reads like a boss ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:49 GMT
#5425
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#5428
and the actual post i was responding to when i said he didn't get it...the one where he basically told me to shut up and scream into a corner because he wasn't talking to me...like i can quote it for you but you had to have JUST read it if you're pulling these quotes. do i need to show you? also you left off what the warning was actually for but i know this is about me and not hf so i'll disregard that | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 15:58 GMT
#5429
On July 12 2015 00:56 Breshke wrote: Just saying a question that has like no good answer is a shit question. What could rsoul answer here to make you townreads her there is literally nothing. You have obviously made your mind up so ignore her and convince other that it's scummy because you won't convince her i asked him to i want to see if he's cutting things out for reasons that make sense or just trying to make me look bad bresh lol >< cause when i saw his post initially that's what it looked like | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:03 GMT
#5431
i was trying to say hf didn't really care about truffle's alignment...it wasn't a defense of truffle in any way | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:04 GMT
#5432
On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote: not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan. It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked lol >< i wish it would snow i love snow | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:10 GMT
#5435
so like...how was i being obstructive? (i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-) like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:12 GMT
#5437
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy. what's the scum motivation for it? what is scummy about me reacting to him putting me down in that way? or making a case on him later? or wanting to give truffle time to write what he already said he was writing? (that last i admit i could have approached better but i felt like hf was just trying to ping out whatever he could find and was being obstructive toward trfel who already said he was writing something up) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:13 GMT
#5438
i think i've gotten all i needed to out of this. sorry for wasting everyone's time >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#5442
On July 12 2015 01:16 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason... so like...how was i being obstructive? (i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-) like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what? Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish. It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you. xP this is forum mafia. you just answer the question again/or ignore it. most of us will keep asking. hf certainly will there's no possible way if hf is town and trfel and i are scum that me saying he should read the thread is going to make him forget he was trying to get trfel to answer something if that's what he was doing lolol >< and yes, i call people out for not understanding shit all the time. i did it last game. so? like if anything, that's a personality flaw. or did you not read the game you were scum in? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#5444
i dunnae, ruxx...it's hard to tell whether you're just tunneled town or the reason your responses are so generic and stubborn is that you don't actually have a good reason...i'll review you filter again pretending that all the interactions with me never happened before EoN | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:30 GMT
#5446
On July 12 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote: On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy. just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy? townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time. rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy. I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these: 1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town) 2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy) 3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy) why are you still saying i was defending him? -_- meh, it's like talking to a wall i was stating my opinion not forcing others to adopt it -_-, and the second one is laughable if you knew my track record with truffle...i don't need to know his alignment to know his alignment literally the only world of the three that you could possibly believe is the third, and that assumes i'm doing something ridiculously stupid hoping it trfel ever flips people will clear me on stupidity, cause i'm not a moron -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#5448
ciao | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#5449
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:35 GMT
#5450
lol thanks ref!marv | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#5455
On July 12 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote: oh didn't see that first comment why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him. again, this could be said of what i did in himalayas with gb? which is why this confuses me so much that you think this alone makes me "scummy"? i've done it with trfel before...saying hey if y'all want to lynch him you can, he's playing bad, but he's town and i won't help <- noir it's how i play. the play may be bad, but since my reads aren't always just about how someone is objectively playing, that's about the only way that i can express them -shrugs- you should look up my past games with trfel, like i told you before noir student v mafia down under 2 newbie mini mafia lxi and see how i treat trfel in games. i know i have a good read on him -shrugs- it is what it is...was town in all those games btw xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:46 GMT
#5457
On July 12 2015 01:44 ruXxar wrote: Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for. There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before. yes i know xP emoticons xP xP xP and mostly this lol i remember the post because i responded to it near EoD 1 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 16:49 GMT
#5460
yeah i thought that would be more productive than it was -shrugs- maybe y'all got more out of it than i did i'll post something closer to EoN meanwhile... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE \o/ mood music! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:16 GMT
#5471
and if that's correct, jat... he won't out it mad playz \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:24 GMT
#5477
On July 12 2015 02:05 ritoky wrote: townlyfe: ritoky geript LS I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group: harkon marv HF rsoul Top town read since forever: OWS Shitty reason for thinking is really cop: milo Probably not mafia cuz meta: ruxxar scott People left (3 mafia prob in here): waveofshadow clarity vivax boxerfred MZ trfel KSC breshke oats hts XEBHX Most likely mafia from above list: trfel ksc hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:31 GMT
#5479
On July 12 2015 02:27 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 02:05 ritoky wrote: townlyfe: ritoky geript LS I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group: harkon marv HF rsoul Top town read since forever: OWS Shitty reason for thinking is really cop: milo Probably not mafia cuz meta: ruxxar scott People left (3 mafia prob in here): waveofshadow clarity vivax boxerfred MZ trfel KSC breshke oats hts XEBHX Most likely mafia from above list: trfel ksc hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other his kinda poopy list posts or stuff that looks like this and is kinda a bitch to read are pretty much identical to the way he was posting in the past newbie student game where i was a coach (he subbed into the game so it might not be in db) in which he was town. ah i thought it was in comparison to more than just one game like his shitty list posts seem to crop up in both...i was at a point where it looked like he actually played better as scum but then one of his town games was a lot more reasoned to so i ended up dropping the whole thing as nai @.@ it's hard to meta someone in games you weren't actually a part of lol at least for me...probably because my "meta" isn't actually "meta" and more some weird meta/tone hybrid thing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:38 GMT
#5483
On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#5490
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote: - pg. 66 1-shot dumbledore move on. On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124 I want to lynch ten people. Damdred Scott Ritoky HF HtS Clarity Kelsier LS Rsoul Vaxx(whatever his name is) Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little. On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game. ^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here: On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote: Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them. HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not? ??? there's no indication of where his read changed? like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#5491
On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote: On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia. oh...well nvm then >< lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:53 GMT
#5495
On July 12 2015 02:52 Harkon wrote: Wtf happened to that post? Anyways. I just remember tagteaming MZ with Koshi. Koshi was such a joy to play with back then and also somewhat sane. Sadness. i have never known a sane koshi :/ i kinda enjoy playing with him now, though ^^ i'm twisted that way i guess? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:55 GMT
#5499
otherwise tl mafia would be unbearable that and i kind of fit in with em lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 17:57 GMT
#5500
like if you're cop, right, and someone claims your role usually you just flat-out don't believe them? or at least spend some considerable amount of time trying to get them to engage to see if there's any remote possibility that there may actually be two of you that progression doesn't look right | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 18:01 GMT
#5503
On July 12 2015 02:59 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:53 LightningStrike wrote: On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote: On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: [quote] zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia. LOL he is totes scum I saw some of this behavior of MZ in the first two pages of his filter LOL. I will more of it later but who I gave the gun to in the mean time: Shoot MZ or I will get town to lynch you. I mean I will more of it later. heh, ls xP you just said the same thing twice | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 18:01 GMT
#5504
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#5528
All but Confirmed 21. ritoky - obv 20. geript - doesn't really make sense for him to do this as scum...0.001% chance he's pulling a sl lol >< 19. harkon - ditto Mostly Confirmed 18. ls - see earlier posts, plus he's not really what i'd call a ballsy scum player. extra kp confirms him Prob Town 17. marv - tonally town...maybe a bit too nice? but i think i'd rather chalk that up to "fulfilled" (teehee) given his investment 16. clarity - fluid reads, good unique points 15. oats - very very similar to when i rolled scum against him and not at all like the lurky scum!oats...can follow his thoughts 14. bresh - few key posts that demonstrate that lovely bresh mind <3 Maaaaaybe Town? 13. WoS - checked his recent scum/town games and ye...plus i know he takes pride in his scum game. still...not comfortable calling him strong town for doing jack-all, as that's an easily replicated meta 12. Viva - mindset looks very similar to what i expect of town viva, particularly the early push on geript 11. HtS - eh, she's not the easiest for me to read. only one picking up what i'm throwing down in some cases, which makes me a bit paranoid if i'm wrong on some things...bit more traffic copping than i'd like. that said, no real red flags? 10. Kels - super fallen off, but his early posting was awesome and the interactions between him and damdy makes it unlikely they're scum together in my mind 9. OWS - can't really read him as well either, but i see good direction to his posts and especially like his push on scott 8. Trfel - pooooosssibly just here cause i don't want to admit i may be wrong? >> more seriously, still think he's town on tone but i have absolutely no other reason to think he is -_- and that's bugging me enough to keep him in the leans Null 7. EBH - very hot and cold for me...reminds me of a certain player who i can't read worth a damn @.@ with all that nk focus stuff, but coming in to criticize the lynch after the fact? blah 6. BF - i'm at this weird place where it seems like he's pushing his reads and even reevaluating some (see: clarity), but the fall-off during the night phase is somewhat off-putting, and what's even stranger is he appears to be defending me but i didn't remember anything about him until i opened his filter, or remember him engaging me at all? 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh Scum Lean 4. ruxx - still reevaluating separate of his odd tunnel on me...my biggest beef with him that keeps him here and not null was his reluctance to move off mz d1 cause "scum could force a no-lynch"...the thought is fine, but the execution wasn't, as he stayed on well after there was no chance of lynching mz without several of the players on bm switching back...if mz is scum, though, obv this changes Scum 3. scott - made several posts about him already...biggest problem is i'm not seeing a clear progression from reads to voting behavior 2. milo - see the post on his reaction to rit's claim, on top of the obv 1. hf - it really fucking irritates me how he likes to come in and just snipe at me for the hell of it...i was fully willing to work with him and put the trfel thing behind us, but he's right there pinging me for useless shit...like telling me to shut up when i'm catching up and his bm snipe while voting bm...too much fighting with everyone and not just me, while everything (his attitude, not scumreading damdy, etc. etc.) is apparently my fault? he just pulled this shit in himalayas and i have a hard time seeing him as town here. in short...bang! bang! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQEDwjhaDE | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 21:09 GMT
#5531
On July 12 2015 06:07 Harkon wrote: If you got the gun and shoot HF you better pray he flips scum because otherwise you die after milo. i do what i want! \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 21:11 GMT
#5534
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 21:25 GMT
#5549
On July 12 2015 06:25 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + 17. marv - tonally town...maybe a bit too nice? but i think i'd rather chalk that up to "fulfilled" (teehee) given his investment i have a thread-inappropriate explanation xD i'm apparently a mindreader xP or a >> << waaaait for iiiiiit >> << tonereader!! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 21:28 GMT
#5556
5 sec is better | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 21:41 GMT
#5565
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 22:10 GMT
#5575
milo, check? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 22:11 GMT
#5581
On July 12 2015 07:10 Half the Sky wrote: I normally don't drunk post I'm out for sushi and cocktails and I'm tipsy like fuck. I'm just checking in to verify I took LS gun and blew MZ with it last night. I'll be back when I'm sober, checked in since not sure LS would be here. I am pretty pissed though he was town. lol thanks for not being stupid xP btw...you and ls both | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 22:15 GMT
#5585
On July 12 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 07:10 Half the Sky wrote: I normally don't drunk post I'm out for sushi and cocktails and I'm tipsy like fuck. I'm just checking in to verify I took LS gun and blew MZ with it last night. I'll be back when I'm sober, checked in since not sure LS would be here. I am pretty pissed though he was town. lol thanks for not being stupid xP btw...you and ls both Sarcasm much? actually, no. i was kinda concerned that you might not get what i was doing and be like no, rsoul doesn't have the gun! like sucks that y'all were wrong on mz >< but really knowing that both wagons were town d1 isn't useless info | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 11 2015 22:17 GMT
#5587
bueno food | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 02:43 GMT
#5625
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote: Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott. nh can you flesh any of these out for me? i don't actually have a ton to talk about today, but if you're actually town here and we're making a mistake, it would be nice to have your thoughts, and i'll talk to you about them as much as you want? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 02:51 GMT
#5626
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 03:29 GMT
#5632
On July 12 2015 12:16 milo109 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote: meeeh actually, milo...can you also address your read on rit? you were happy to lynch him after his claim...third scumread i believe...but then you changed your mind and i couldn't find anything in your filter to explain that change other than claiming cop yourself? His WIFOM read on me. I understand what it is, and why he doesn't want to say it. ?? is there any reason you can't say it? lol >< meh i don't really want to talk about hf right now i kinda understand bf and scott but not really clarity. why does there have to be scum between him and mz exactly? like i though damdy voted awfully quick on clarity...a bit wifomy, i know, but if you're really town and were roleblocked, he knew that your check was fake, so it wasn't because he was afraid you'd actually gotten a red check? i'm practically willing to clear clarity on that alone, frankly, but i also just like a lot of his posting when i've been in-thread | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 03:38 GMT
#5634
On July 12 2015 12:32 milo109 wrote: If you want to clear him on that, you're being silly. Clarity was in no danger of being lynched there. after geript outed with the track on damdy, he definitely wasn't but considering this all happened before, had you kept your check i don't see how he wasn't in danger of being lynched? i'll give you that it's wifomy, but i just don't see him jumping on a check on a scummate that he knows is fake, any more than i see you two together orchestrating that on a scummate kinda pointless | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 03:58 GMT
#5638
maybe if someone else sees it wave, i'm assuming you're not caught up, so yeah...it's not like you need us to talk to you for you to talk xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:03 GMT
#5641
geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:04 GMT
#5642
On July 12 2015 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Like without looking specifically I bet there's been people attempting to somehow push me while I wasn't playing (supposedly for good reason) and yet knowing very well this isn't how I normally play. Probably some scum in thar. xP and probably some town, too, i imagine | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:12 GMT
#5647
On July 12 2015 13:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: mmm geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< So is there a particular reason we don't want to trust the cop claim then? other than milo attempting to get lynched before damdy despite geript's track and the small likelihood of scum having two roleblockers, not to mention what i already mentioned about his odd switch from scumreading rit after rit's cop claim to saying they both could be cops once he'd claimed himself? no xP nothing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:13 GMT
#5648
On July 12 2015 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Like without looking specifically I bet there's been people attempting to somehow push me while I wasn't playing (supposedly for good reason) and yet knowing very well this isn't how I normally play. Probably some scum in thar. xP and probably some town, too, i imagine Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name lots saying you're town for it i've waffled on both sides -_- but yeah. not sure why any of it matters given there was nothing to read lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:18 GMT
#5654
On July 12 2015 13:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 13:08 WaveofShadow wrote: On July 12 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: mmm geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< So is there a particular reason we don't want to trust the cop claim then? other than milo attempting to get lynched before damdy despite geript's track and the small likelihood of scum having two roleblockers, not to mention what i already mentioned about his odd switch from scumreading rit after rit's cop claim to saying they both could be cops once he'd claimed himself? no xP nothing I'm not sure why the last part is weird. As I remember it milo said something about what ritoky said or phrasing made him change his mind? And what do you mean 'attempting to get lynched?' Like scum trying to save the roleblocker? I can't honestly think of a scenario where I've seen that happen. eh i'd have to check, but i think that came after his read switch...as in later during the night phase when the read switch was during the day. that's how i remember it anyway well, if everyone's saying it's auto anyway, maybe? it's certainly strange to do it at all -_- i had a wifomy thought no one has mentioned, though | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:19 GMT
#5656
On July 12 2015 13:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote: On July 12 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Like without looking specifically I bet there's been people attempting to somehow push me while I wasn't playing (supposedly for good reason) and yet knowing very well this isn't how I normally play. Probably some scum in thar. xP and probably some town, too, i imagine Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name lots saying you're town for it i've waffled on both sides -_- but yeah. not sure why any of it matters given there was nothing to read lol >< lol which is why I suggested the vig but apparently MZ was higher priority? meh. to know what was going on with the d1 lynch if nothing else? yeah? sides, marv was pretty adamant and it's marv so >< lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:46 GMT
#5666
On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3. I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia. Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? i do xP not sure who "we" is though lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 04:55 GMT
#5673
On July 12 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote: I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...) well at least you're honest about it? lol >< do you have an unserious off-the-top-of-your-head thing while you're here, at least? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 13:34 GMT
#5701
i don't want to talk about you today, but i'm more than willing to talk with you if you're willing to discuss something else also disregard the wifomy thing i was being stupid -_- again yeah, i know you have my posts on mute, but scott kept hitting hard on the "mindmeld with hf" multiple times in his townread of you, making his townread about him as what appears to be an oblique way of saying look, he claimed vt and we mindmelded, i'm vt, lookie lookie! <- i already said this btw that's what i meant by if you're town, can't you see how he's ego-stroking? most of his "reads" you liked, with the exception of the oats one (which admittedly was interesting) were associative with me. so yeah. not sure why you thought it was amazing? if you're town here i think there's at least a couple people taking advantage of you being on tilt, frankly | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 13:44 GMT
#5703
On July 12 2015 22:40 Holyflare wrote: Oh fuck off I'm your main scum read and you don't want to lynch me? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. That right there. Have fun after i flip. xP you're not my main scum read. but again, i don't want to talk about you right now | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 13:52 GMT
#5709
On July 12 2015 22:46 Holyflare wrote: Double post be damned but everything you said I've done has been mafia play and you've made "cases" on me repeatedly. All you've said I've done the past cycle is snipe at you, now defend your scott and ruxxar scum reads and you still don't want to lynch me? ^^ Don't care jat. I have a legitimate rsoul scum read that nobody will entertain so you'll have to kill me to realise it. nope i don't want to lynch you ^^ if you want me to be blunt, i will be. i think that despite all the shitfights you've been getting into, which i've seen you do way more frequently as scum, the way you just flee instead of keeping it up is not much like your scum game, and i'm conflicted on you. i think you've been misrepresenting me badly and are at best tunneled, but i definitely don't think you're more likely to flip scum than milo, scott or ruxx and frankly...the way you're behaving this morning contributes to that i don't know what the hell you're doing this game feeling i was playing with the fact everyone thought i had the gun. now, can you please play if you're town? like...this is silly? if you're scum whatever. we'll just lynch you tomorrow | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 13:56 GMT
#5712
On July 12 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote: No thanks! you say i keep sniping you, which is true but they are all very very valid points which people shall soon enough sheep whatever hf. i'm not getting into a fight with you over this. it's pointless | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:04 GMT
#5718
On July 12 2015 23:00 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote: i had a wifomy thought no one has mentioned, though Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote: -_- eh i had a weird reason to think milo might be town, but i think i may just be overthinking things with that response maybe if someone else sees it wave, i'm assuming you're not caught up, so yeah...it's not like you need us to talk to you for you to talk xP What's the point in not saying it? Will you tell us once milo is dead or...? Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote: i kinda understand bf and scott but not really clarity. why does there have to be scum between him and mz exactly? like i though damdy voted awfully quick on clarity...a bit wifomy, i know, but if you're really town and were roleblocked, he knew that your check was fake, so it wasn't because he was afraid you'd actually gotten a red check? i'm practically willing to clear clarity on that alone, frankly, but i also just like a lot of his posting when i've been in-thread That's in no world alignment indicative. Why would damdred not vote on a check he knows is fake regardless of claritys alignment? Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 12:59 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean I can't say I've done more than skim stuff. 300 pages is fucking ridiculous, even for my standards. Can you direct me to something/somewhere specific while I still have a shred of motivation? From the rules: The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance. You joined a big game and you knew posty people like marv, HF and rsoultin are in it. There is no excuse for this. the point in not saying it? it was kinda out there and not really that strong to begin with? i thought it strange that he didn't claim a check and try to survive an extra day if he were scum lol >< but that was stupid because his whole thing is there's two rbs as i said, i was being dumb i guess you're right about clarity, though :/ if people believe milo it doesn't matter if it's fake or not | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:06 GMT
#5721
On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote: I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now. What do you think about this assumption? generally it's a true assumption lol >< from what i've seen | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:22 GMT
#5733
On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:25 GMT
#5739
On July 12 2015 23:20 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: On July 12 2015 23:17 Harkon wrote: Why are you treating HTS as confirmed town, LS? She had claimed Miller and I think she's town outside of the Miller claim and Millers are Townies who turn up as red to Cop checks. BTW none one else claimed Miller lol. Ok, but you know that she is not confirmed, right? Because it seemed like you tried to color only confirmed people green. no offense, jat, but why does it matter if ls colors her green or not? lol >< and yeah i hadn't read the newbie yet this morning :/ blah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:27 GMT
#5741
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:28 GMT
#5742
On July 12 2015 23:26 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:25 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:20 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: On July 12 2015 23:17 Harkon wrote: Why are you treating HTS as confirmed town, LS? She had claimed Miller and I think she's town outside of the Miller claim and Millers are Townies who turn up as red to Cop checks. BTW none one else claimed Miller lol. Ok, but you know that she is not confirmed, right? Because it seemed like you tried to color only confirmed people green. no offense, jat, but why does it matter if ls colors her green or not? lol >< and yeah i hadn't read the newbie yet this morning :/ blah I don't want LS to think HTS is confirmed town when I am dead day4 because she just isn't. okay, i guess xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:29 GMT
#5744
On July 12 2015 23:28 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum Ok, but it is an odd approach for town too, maybe even more so. Anyways, I know that it was pointed out then that BM had just played a towngame where he also lurked like this. no, bm had just replaced out instantly of a town game, unless we're referring to a different one. and hf mentioned that while voting for bm ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:31 GMT
#5747
On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? he wasn't xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:33 GMT
#5748
On July 12 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:29 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:28 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum Ok, but it is an odd approach for town too, maybe even more so. Anyways, I know that it was pointed out then that BM had just played a towngame where he also lurked like this. no, bm had just replaced out instantly of a town game, unless we're referring to a different one. and hf mentioned that while voting for bm ^^ Ah, yes. I remember you pointing that out. FINE. lol ?? like i don't get why you're upset about it? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:35 GMT
#5751
On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:37 GMT
#5752
i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:39 GMT
#5756
On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:39 GMT
#5757
On July 12 2015 23:38 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote: like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false. did you read his response or not? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:41 GMT
#5760
On July 12 2015 23:40 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. Ah maybe i was wrong (cant be bothered to check) but yes that's a bad post. Not only was mz's post wrong and explained to him to be wrong but if rsoul didnt read the 100 pages before then how can she make that read and if its after she read then how on earth can she make that read again. how can i make what read? -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:41 GMT
#5762
On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: [quote] [quote] This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town. lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:43 GMT
#5764
On July 12 2015 23:41 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:38 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote: like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false. did you read his response or not? ???? he said that he was antagonizing everyone in that game and only marv here...like i dunnae jat. it didn't much matter to me to check up on, if you want complete honesty y'all were gonna shoot him anyway, and the few things i pointed out that could have come from town y'all didn't care about | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:43 GMT
#5765
On July 12 2015 23:42 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? Didn't read the thread alert. The ritoky/milo points were the main ones and it looked like tmi which is also primarily what the milo case was too. Marv brought very good points up that ritoky didn't look apathetic at all and I corrected mz that he had posted but for some reason the apathetic town read did not apply to milo at all. ^^ i didn't agree with that | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:46 GMT
#5769
On July 12 2015 23:44 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote: [quote] Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: 5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town. lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point So you didn't/don't actually know what we were talking about and you are still telling me our reasons weren't absolutely amazing? And you see marv, me and LS who are all town going ham on him and don't give us enough credit to even give MZ a scumlean? Marv is rarely wrong when he is this convinced and the same goes for LS. nope, i didn't care ^^ and ls can certainly be wrong when he's this convinced. don't be bad, jat | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 14:48 GMT
#5772
if you want to keep sitting there saying that it matters, you can, but i'm still town ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:06 GMT
#5826
if milo flips scum, i don't know cause i'm right where i was n2 >< and all hf does when i try to get him to talk to me is fucking snipe if milo flips town, hf is probably town and playing like the shittiest game of his life -_- i'd lynch scott if people don't want to lynch milo, but his play still makes no sense to me coming from town ruxx, too, but i don't expect anyone to agree with me on that xP agreed with ows/hf on ebh's entrance...he's just stoking the fire and clearly not even reading the game don't know what bresh or ksc are doing, but i hardly think two non-posts in a 12 pg newbie while we're basically on auto here makes him slam-dunk scum, jat | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:11 GMT
#5828
On July 13 2015 02:08 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote: i've decided not to play today ^^ if milo flips scum, i don't know cause i'm right where i was n2 >< and all hf does when i try to get him to talk to me is fucking snipe if milo flips town, hf is probably town and playing like the shittiest game of his life -_- i'd lynch scott if people don't want to lynch milo, but his play still makes no sense to me coming from town ruxx, too, but i don't expect anyone to agree with me on that xP agreed with ows/hf on ebh's entrance...he's just stoking the fire and clearly not even reading the game don't know what bresh or ksc are doing, but i hardly think two non-posts in a 12 pg newbie while we're basically on auto here makes him slam-dunk scum, jat Did I call him slam-dunk scum? How does HF's alignment depend on milo's? Doesn't make any sense to me. lol you don't get why i was trying to get people to think i had the gun and was going to shoot hf? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:17 GMT
#5831
so if milo flips town, that means there probably is a 2nd rb and they did rb him today rather than rbing my "shot" on hf | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:24 GMT
#5833
On July 13 2015 02:20 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 02:17 rsoultin wrote: maybe i was like super transparent and scum called my bluff, but i think they'd still play it safe, personally. it's not unreasonable for ls to give me a gun or for me to yolo it xP so if milo flips town, that means there probably is a 2nd rb and they did rb him today rather than rbing my "shot" on hf I don't think that proves anything tbh. eh, think what you want? i think it does | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:25 GMT
#5834
i dunnae i don't trust myself to read hf this game because every time i read a post of his it just pisses me off >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:29 GMT
#5837
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:33 GMT
#5839
On July 13 2015 02:31 Holyflare wrote: Why do you think milo has something that makes him town, align his alignment with mine and then not explain your milo read and want to afk again rsoultin? do you want a real answer or are you just gonna snipe at me again? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:38 GMT
#5840
i don't really think anything makes him town i'm not aligning his alignment with you...if i did i'd be saying that when he most likely flips scum, you're scum i'm afking cause i'm tired of this fight and it's not going to go anywhere, and i'm not even sure you're mafia anymore which makes me even less interested in just fighting constantly. but you'd rather snipe at me than talk so whatever | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#5843
On July 13 2015 02:40 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote: -_- eh i had a weird reason to think milo might be town, but i think i may just be overthinking things with that response maybe if someone else sees it wave, i'm assuming you're not caught up, so yeah...it's not like you need us to talk to you for you to talk xP What was the reason already said i thought it was weird for scum!milo not to attempt a red check to delay his lynch. it's what i'd do if i ever fake-claimed lol >< but yeah it's nai cause he could have either been really rb'd as town or still trying to sell the 2nd rb story as scum, cause if he suddenly had a check today we'd be unlikely to believe him it was stupid. i realized it was stupid and dropped it. auto lynches just make me twitchy lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:44 GMT
#5844
On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote: Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:49 GMT
#5846
On July 13 2015 02:47 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote: Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it. i know it doesn't make him town, jat i also know that i'm inclined to call him scum for all the sniping and the cases that are blatantly wrong or exaggerated i was questioning ruxx to see if i wanted to do the gun play with him or hf...and settled on hf, cause yeah, i'm like right in the middle on him right now >< it doesn't look like last game did | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:59 GMT
#5849
On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote: Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable. So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him. i'd rather lynch scott of the three if we're not lynching milo lol >< i really have no opinion on blue at all, despite not liking his one post today but yeah geript saying he's va? that was the same impression i got...and i can never read him -_- the nk analysis thing that makes little sense and leads nowhere is kinda classic va | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 17:59 GMT
#5850
On July 13 2015 02:56 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:47 Harkon wrote: On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote: Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it. i know it doesn't make him town, jat i also know that i'm inclined to call him scum for all the sniping and the cases that are blatantly wrong or exaggerated i was questioning ruxx to see if i wanted to do the gun play with him or hf...and settled on hf, cause yeah, i'm like right in the middle on him right now >< it doesn't look like last game did Then why are you changing your mind? Why does it SUDDENLY not look like last game? Or is it because I said we should just lynch both of you? it's not sudden? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 18:02 GMT
#5852
On July 13 2015 03:01 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:56 Harkon wrote: On July 13 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:47 Harkon wrote: On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote: Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it. i know it doesn't make him town, jat i also know that i'm inclined to call him scum for all the sniping and the cases that are blatantly wrong or exaggerated i was questioning ruxx to see if i wanted to do the gun play with him or hf...and settled on hf, cause yeah, i'm like right in the middle on him right now >< it doesn't look like last game did Then why are you changing your mind? Why does it SUDDENLY not look like last game? Or is it because I said we should just lynch both of you? it's not sudden? No? Do want me to believe the only reason HF was one of your scumreads in your listpost was your gun play? i don't care what you believe xP frankly i read the game and started doubting. it's really that simple | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 18:04 GMT
#5853
^ the read is how i really feel about him lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 18:07 GMT
#5856
i'm completely down for lynching scott or milo today lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 12 2015 18:10 GMT
#5859
On July 13 2015 03:08 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2015 03:04 rsoultin wrote: hf - it really fucking irritates me how he likes to come in and just snipe at me for the hell of it...i was fully willing to work with him and put the trfel thing behind us, but he's right there pinging me for useless shit...like telling me to shut up when i'm catching up and his bm snipe while voting bm...too much fighting with everyone and not just me, while everything (his attitude, not scumreading damdy, etc. etc.) is apparently my fault? he just pulled this shit in himalayas and i have a hard time seeing him as town here. ^ the read is how i really feel about him lol >< That's weird because you just said it does NOT feel like himalayas. Wtf... the sniping at me does the way he keeps afking doesn't look the same | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 06:52 GMT
#5888
On July 11 2015 12:47 rsoultin wrote: eh i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently (<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though) also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here On July 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote: objectively mz or milo is the best shot? i mean, i think that's obvious lol >< hf being a twit aside i'm not an idiot mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote: On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124 I want to lynch ten people. Damdred Scott Ritoky HF HtS Clarity Kelsier LS Rsoul Vaxx(whatever his name is) Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game. ^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote: Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them. HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not? ??? there's no indication of where his read changed? like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is? On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote: On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote: On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave. He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team. There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia. oh...well nvm then >< lol @ hts...there's nothing verifiable about the "tmi" accusation lol >< i thought that accusing mz of tmi in the first place was a stretch. read the quotes in the spoiler jat's saying that i should just sheep him, marv and ls on their reads, cause i'm so well-known for like sheeping people blindly and shit xP i didn't even look at the meta you're looking up, and even if i had i doubt it would have changed the fact that the main, actual accusation against mz...that he had tmi regarding rit and milo...i disagreed with essentially, you're wasting your time. you either believe or disbelieve that my read on mz came from tmi...i didn't take the meta into account when i posted and jat still thinks that i tmi in my scumgames cause of the hard-buss on him in my very first one lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 18:08 GMT
#6052
oh, yeah, truffle is disinterested in general but it's not necessarily game-related? for what that's worth. doesn't really excuse not reading cause i still caught up >< and stayed up till 2a.m. doing the weekend's chem work as a result so screw you guys for making me read lol >< hf, what is it that makes you think milo is townie, anyway? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 18:16 GMT
#6057
On July 14 2015 03:11 ruXxar wrote: @HF: It's hard to determine milo's alignment when he isn't even willing to defend himself or participate in answering questions. my problem with him earlier lol >< like, in all honesty i have no problem with lynching scott today...he's very probably scum...but this will just come up again tomorrow. and the next day if we still keep milo alive. disregarding the fact that he's gonna flip scum anyway, he's not cooperating so i don't think we're going to get anything more out of him | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 18:17 GMT
#6059
On July 14 2015 03:14 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 14 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote: On July 14 2015 03:05 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 14 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote: On July 14 2015 02:58 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 14 2015 02:51 Vivax wrote: On July 14 2015 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 14 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote: Besides if I was mafia with him I'd already be bussing the shit outta him. Call it wifom if you want, you can, but it's just what I know of my own play. The clarity arguments on me made him sketchy as fuck in my book given the way he mixed stuff in it that doesn't mean anything, as if he was trying to reinforce his argument at any cost with the shittiest arguments even and that's not what I'd expect of him given I wouldn't expect him to be that tunneled on me already in that post. What things have I said that aren't true? That I have given no opinion on milo when I do it right while I give the read on Scott and a bunch of other people. Saying I did nothing about the BM lynch like I was supposed to do more than I did when it wouldn't make any sense. Saying Kelsier's D1 was "fine" as if that was a reason to townread him. I said that on D1 trolling or not doing much doesn't mean anything and the Palmar flip proves me right. Overall your entire post looks like a massive, unobjective shitflinging and it pissed me quite off. You literally said "I don't know about milo, I'll need to think more about him" 12 hours before lynchtime or whatever. OUR CURRENT LYNCH TARGET and you're in no rush to get a read on him apparently. Doing nothing about the BM lynch would be fine, I was perfectly happy switching I thought he was a better lynch at the time. However you thought the lynch was HORRIBLE and just let it happen anyway. "lol u guys are all bad lynching the claimed wanderer" followed with no alternative or caring about moving the lynch target. I'm not saying you should townread Kelsier at all (although you should). What I was saying, and this is my third time pointing it out to you, is that YOU saying his d1 was fine but he's done nothing after that, when the only scummy thing he's done AFAIK is being so indifferent during d1 lynch. Somehow you missed this but you still read him as scum. It makes no sense. Woah there nelly! Didn't you just accuse me of wasting my time trying to get a read on milo? Vivax is actually capable of forming coherent sentences and responding though Maybe you should read the quotes in my profile then. LOL. Anyway.. You can say "I play the game my way and I don't care about anything else" all you want, but are you actually saying you don't really care if milo gets lynched, regardless of his alignment? You totally lost me. Let's say plumber mario walks into the european parliament, full of witty powerful politicians. Everyone knows he's plumber mario and mario knows he's just a plumber. Is plumber mario going to try to influence the politicians as if he was a politician himself? When all the politicians are dead mario can truly become a hero but until then he's just a plumber. -snorts- never would have thought you were "just a plumber" in guardians of the galaxy vivax xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:17 GMT
#6143
On July 14 2015 06:12 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 06:04 Holyflare wrote: If trfel flips mafia maybe you guys will believe the rsoul read, yay! This might actually be a valid point considering Ras did allude to an out-of-game situation earlier regarding Trfel. Covering for him. I don't know. On mobile otherwise I'd find the quote, but I KNOW she mentioned something about him not being interested in the game in general. And yes, I recall Trfel saying Monday he'd play. Today is Monday. lol yeah i did...but i actually said "disinterested in general"...but that's really all i have a right to talk about | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#6146
On July 14 2015 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 06:15 marvellosity wrote: On July 14 2015 06:14 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm just gonna cross my fingers and hope milo is messing with me i'm blaming everyone else mainly harkon What did poor harkon do? He took a bullet, man. lol marv blames the shepherd, naturally xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:19 GMT
#6152
;o;@marv | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:20 GMT
#6154
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:21 GMT
#6156
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:22 GMT
#6157
On July 14 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote: i have a bad feeling about this xD 2 roleblockers tho :/ the requisite hedge, or a genuine bad feeling? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:32 GMT
#6173
hf isn't a nasty shit though! i mean...not quite as nasty! okay, ruxx. okay xP i swam again today ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:35 GMT
#6181
well, that happened -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#6188
On July 14 2015 06:34 boxerfred wrote: I need to look into HtS. In Himalayas, I instanty townread him (her?). Which was a sick mistake. I'm not trusting HtS but I really need to catch up. -squints at- ummm...himalayas? like, dude, hts didn't play in himalayas? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:41 GMT
#6194
On July 14 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote: lol >< i forgot ruxx made that post hf isn't a nasty shit though! i mean...not quite as nasty! okay, ruxx. okay xP i swam again today ^^ I'm not saying he did a 360 backflip and changed his behavior completely and became an angel from heaven. I'm saying there's a difference in how he expresses himself and acts in this game as compared to the last one. if you could demonstrate that in more than just blanket, easy to spew statements sometime this night phase, that would be awesome ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 21:58 GMT
#6244
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 22:02 GMT
#6253
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 13 2015 22:04 GMT
#6262
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 02:37 GMT
#6353
ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 02:39 GMT
#6354
and hf is town cause he's not being as cantankerous? but trfel's right in that ruxx hasn't seemed to be concerned about hf at all this game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 02:41 GMT
#6358
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 02:43 GMT
#6359
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 02:49 GMT
#6361
On July 14 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote: i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><) ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum. Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him. lol i'm aware of that, ows...and there are people in this game legitimately decent (at least above average for this general group of players) at reading hf. i'm one of them and i'm not certain. neither are others like, it's not so much the hard townread as it is the hard townread from the start with no questioning it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 03:04 GMT
#6362
On July 14 2015 10:24 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 09:56 KelsierSC wrote: On July 14 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote: Adding ruXxar to the scum pool. + Show Spoiler [Reasons, if you're interested in…] + He scumread me (Trfel) without explaining his reasoning. He seemed to really want to lynch me (enough to repeat himself without prompting about it), but not enough to clearly state why, for people who hadn't read Student Mafia 11. Furthermore, his scumread on me was posted well after my opening post, and his vote was made even after that. This doesn't feel like a town mindset. The first main push in the thread was Damdred's push on LightningStrike. RuXxar was one of the people who didn't say anything about the push. However, a few pages later, RuXxar seemed accepting of the push (asked LightningStrike what he was trying to say with his list of scott31337's games). He didn't mention LightningStrike again for a while, though. His interest in LightningStrike doesn't feel very high at all, which is strange, especially since he townread Damdred. If he didn't like the push, he should have said so; as it is, he gave himself room to jump on it later, while largely avoiding it. His townread of Damdred and scott31337 seems to be for a trap, which made no sense whatsoever. Making a post that contains no relevant information or reads generally isn't a reason for someone to be town. RuXxar switching his main scumread from me to Clarity_nl has several problems. First, it shows he wasn't really reading the game clearly, or he would have thought of this at the start, not only when someone mentioned something that had been said many times already. Second, why did he scumread and vote Clarity_nl and completely ignore Holyflare, while scumreading Clarity_nl for an association with Holyflare early on? His interest in Holyflare is nonexistant. Then, instead of discussing his scumreads, he just says that everyone questioning or being suspicious of Clarity_nl is towny. Yes, this is different from how he played last game (as mafia). But it's also very different from how he played as town. Having done well as scum last game, I can see him excited to play scum again (especially if it's with Holyflare again, as I suspect). And his early play is very, very hard to see from a town perspective, while the mafia motivation seems clear. can you explain the damdred, scott thing to me Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote: Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p Show nested quote + (look at the spoilered quotes)On July 06 2015 08:05 ruXxar wrote: On July 06 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote: Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p Don't be bad meta is excellent especially with someone you know very well. Io think I've called ls alignment the past 9 games 100%. This early it's an excellent tool ls is acting scum,and had to be prompted to do his normal thing. I'm pretty sure he rolled,scum On July 06 2015 08:03 scott31337 wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote: Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p You need to let it go... Meta can be an amazing tool and on Day 1 with out votes it's quite helpful... Just like voting for BM since he rolls scum 80%+ y so serious? I love meta. #meta #meta #meta. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:12 ruXxar wrote: Top town at this point is damdred and Scott. #BatTraps. eh i'm not trying to be a wet blanket, trfel but this looks like it could easily just be trolling? if ruxx is scum, it's not for this lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 03:21 GMT
#6365
i agree with...marv, i think it was?...on viva, and am still pretty comfortable townreading him. i kinda think of him as a koshi-lite who flits from this to that and i don't think he should be included in any vig list (inb4 no one had him there and i'm just misremembering lol ><) okay legitimately i'm having trouble >< i liked some of hf's direction today when he loosened up and despite harkon and hf both calling me an idiot, more or less, for thinking my play meant anything, i still think if hf is scum and i'm threatening to shoot him they might not want to gamble that i really am that brazen lol >< not as much a fan of him badgering at milo over and over again, though, when it was clear milo was going to ignore/troll us (yes i'm disregarding his treatment of me for objectivity's sake) like there's a huge list of players who would be good vig shots here? i think i'd prefer scott just cause i'm going to want to lynch him tomorrow anyway xP but wave, ebh, kels, bf and yeah even trfel though i still think he's town would all be decent alternatives apart from that...something about bf's posting this phase was throwing me off but i can't remember what it was? i dunnae. anyway, exam wednesday...i'll be sparse between now and then ows it's something about the preachy awkward stiffyness in ruxx's posting and it's tone and i don't fucking know how to explain it except that it's wrong to me and this is what is so aggravating >< cause i don't know how to like, quantify shit that is unquantifiable @ruxx - he wasn't questioning trfel. maybe you're a mindreader and can see browbeating as questioning, but i can't, and how quickly you jumped in to defend his "questioning" is suspect to me but i hardly want to talk about it because i'm trying to ignore that part of your play for now ^ clearly i refreshed before i posted this lol >< dude, i don't know how you see a difference between how he browbeat me and fidei, confirmed town and how he's behaving here getting in pointless shitfights with not just me, but also harkon all but confirmed town and milo who we were lynching anyway. i'm not saying hf can't be town cause i'm doubting it myself, but i call bullshit on your supposed read | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 03:23 GMT
#6366
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 03:32 GMT
#6368
On July 14 2015 12:27 ruXxar wrote: Are you refering to the voting between MZ and BM? yeeeees | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 04:14 GMT
#6370
On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote: You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly. What if mafia switches off then don't switch back? GG no-lynch. On July 08 2015 06:49 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Meapak_Ziphh (8): ObiWanShinobi, marvellosity, ruXxar, Harkon, boxerfred, Vivax, milo109, WaveofShadow Bill Murray (10): geript, Holyflare, rsoultin, Clarity_nl, Damdred, Scot31337 Half the Sky, Ritoky, Breshke, LightningStrike ritoky (4): Palmar, Bill Murray, Oatsmaster, trfel Clarity_nl (1): Meapak_Ziphh Milo109 (1): KelsierSC Trfel (1): XEliteBlueHunter69X Not Voting (0): Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) [B]On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit. and you were so concerned about this, and cared so little about who we lynched, that you decided to stay on mz's train despite him having the lesser votes? xP doesn't seem much like you believed a word you were saying. or were you just not paying attention to the votecount while you afk'd? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 04:18 GMT
#6371
anyway, i'm out, guys. someone look at this and tell me if i'm tunneling or not, because this is what caught my eye (along with that stiff tone thing that i mentioned earler lol >< but i don't know how to really show that) when reviewing ruxx's filter | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 13:17 GMT
#6428
On July 14 2015 20:36 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 17:58 Trfel wrote: An Analysis of the Brussels Sprout Conversation + Show Spoiler + Background: Oatsmaster mentioned that rsoultin's high usage of "xP" in this game suggests that she is mafia. KelsierSC analyzed several of rsoultin's games as both alignments and concluded that rsoultin uses "xP" more as mafia than as town, and her average in this game matched her town averages. However, he then analyzed only the first four pages of each game, and the "xP" count was not alignment indicative. On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation The post that started the conversation. On July 06 2015 22:35 marvellosity wrote: kelsier is pretty obviously town tbh. On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: It's a simple question, and it has a simple answer. However, as town, rsoultin doesn't care if she argues with people, doesn't care about looking good, tends to answer questions and discuss in a really round-about way, and really doesn't like dealing with people/reads she thinks are stupid. I know you're going to say that rsoultin does this as mafia too, just wait patiently...Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. On July 06 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote: What rsoultin is saying is fairly obvious, at this point. If someone is smart, and they say/do something that is clearly below their intelligence, then this is a reasonable sign that they are mafia. The problem is that there are many reasons that people can incorrectly read people in this way (applying the method incorrectly, such as incorrect assumptions about people's intelligence, misreading the questions, people simply thinking in different ways, other factors like being high/drunk/etc). But the core of the read is a sensible read. There is no town motivation for intentionally being stupid.Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. Nothing if you have the intelligence of a brussels sprout XP Xp xp xp xp What is that now? 30? On July 06 2015 22:42 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. Nothing if you have the intelligence of a brussels sprout XP Xp xp xp xp What is that now? 30? Let's assume for a minute that my intelligence is above the level of a brussels sprout. Same question. On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili, as in that Harkon completely missed rsoultin's answer, as if it were in Swahili. Then rsoultin slightly expands on the same thing.Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people On July 06 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people so are you saying kels' retardation is alignment indicative then? On July 06 2015 22:49 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people Keep dodging the issue. On July 06 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm saying it's retarded enough to doubt my townread on him Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ On July 06 2015 22:51 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:49 Harkon wrote: On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people Keep dodging the issue. Okay yeah lol you can be a brussels sprout if you want ^^ the imitation is spot on On July 06 2015 22:52 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm saying it's retarded enough to doubt my townread on him Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ kinda amazing how i understand precisely what Hadron is getting at yet you keep not answering clearly That's enough to convey the point. Rsoultin did answer the questions asked of her every single time, just in a very round-about way. And evidently Harkon and marvellosity didn't really understand the answers (or they could have gone straight to the important questions, such as why rsoultin expects more intelligence than this from KelsierSC, how she knows that there isn't some other explanation, why rsoultin isn't paying attention to the effort that KelsierSC used, etc. As town, rsoultin seems to care more about answering questions in her own way and posting in her own way than playing such that other people can easily/clearly see what she is saying. We've talked about this a few times. In Assassination Mafia, this eventually caused her to make a few huge essay-style posts, clearly stating her reads in simple English. Point being that rsoultin seemingly dodging questions and being unhelpful is an issue in communication, and doesn't make her scum. On the contrary, I think that as mafia, rsoultin would be more willing to be helpful and answer questions more clearly, and be less argumentative. Furthermore, there's an element of creativity to these answers that provides hints at the thought process that created her reads, which could be harder to replicate as scum. Although at times it may seem that rsoultin is dodging questions or being unhelpful, this is generally not true. Rsoultin knows how to clearly answer questions, and as scum, she'd be more interested in doing so. The fact that she is still stubbornly playing in her own style, despite being scumread for it, suggests that she is town. Rsoultin did NOT answer the question in this quote chain. She waffled around the issue saying Kelsier was less towny for something that is not scummy and that she did not even say is scummy. To the bolded: The only relevant question here is if she thinks that him lacking intelligence makes him scum and why. That is exactly what we asked her and that is what she refused to answer in a straight way. It is as simple as that. -_- the brussels sprout thing again? trfel lol >< i'd almost forgotten how annoyed they'd made me damn you i said that doing retarded things is scummy for intelligent people dropping a hard townread to a lesser townread makes it obvious that i think it's alignment indicative like, not sure how you think i didn't answer this? oats believing me having more or less xPs in one game vs. another (was bound to be one) is alignment indicative i don't care about. it's oats. ksc, computer software writing extraordinaire and frankly very impressive to me last game, running off to do statistical analysis on it was retarded i still think he's town probably this game? which i guess we know for sure soon -_- but yeah, if y'all don't get that hf can't be a koshi or that i can't be a sicklucker...our brains aren't wired that way...then i have no use for you, jat | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 13:25 GMT
#6430
class @.@ | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 13:27 GMT
#6432
On July 14 2015 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote: It was like a statistically significant amount of xPs. Anyway, can you refute clarity's reasons for having a townread on you pls. Cause its wrong. what me using ogi being alignment indicative? lol yeah that doesn't mean anything filter length doesn't mean anything fighting doesn't mean anything zzzz@oats xP xP xP xP \o/ gunning for that next stan dev! | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 13:33 GMT
#6434
On July 14 2015 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote: That townread was too good man, you mafia. What do you think about ebh? slight scumlean but he's va and i have a shit record with reading him correctly lol, oats, you're an idiot. i'm the truffle-whisperer for a reason i'm not going to keep repeating to look at old games we've both played in cause clearly no one's paying attention and you're wasting my time | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 13:55 GMT
#6441
why does him beimg make him defo mafia? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 13:57 GMT
#6442
^best oats imitation right there lol | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 14:07 GMT
#6448
I actually like that point on va/ebh though | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 14:21 GMT
#6454
On July 14 2015 23:09 marvellosity wrote: why is EBH VA? Choice of name - he prides himself in finding and killing blues as mafia Plans to smurf - he mentioned it in obs in carnaval that he can't do much cause meta says he's lazy Overemphasis on nks as a way to find mafia <- the one thing i've seen in every one of his games General syntax but i'd have to pull examples lol | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 14:21 GMT
#6455
On July 14 2015 23:09 marvellosity wrote: why is EBH VA? Choice of name - he prides himself in finding and killing blues as mafia Plans to smurf - he mentioned it in obs in carnaval that he can't do much cause meta says he's lazy Overemphasis on nks as a way to find mafia <- the one thing i've seen in every one of his games General syntax but i'd have to pull examples lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 21:40 GMT
#6740
- va - ows shitfight lol >< i just wasted like 45 mins of my life i think of those two i think va's the better shot and i don't know why people are calling for an hf shot, other than he's being an annoying prat and they're afraid we can't lynch him later if needed lol >< (which may actually be a valid point but i'm willing to be optimistic) | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:42 GMT
#6743
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rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:47 GMT
#6745
On July 15 2015 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote: Reads somewhat in an order: marv - marv seems happy and is very involved. He's changing his mind based on new or missed info and seems to want to solve the game. He's playing the "woe is me I don't know who scum is" card a bit too much but I think it's fine. If you end up with marv at 3-man or 5-man lylo he's probably scum, since I think his scum game is good (regardless of what others say) but until then DO NOT LYNCH HF - Honestly I don't see what other people are mentioning. HF is obviously very involved and he brings up unique points. He's gotten emotional a fair few times which is an easy way for scum to get ignored but it's offset by how useful he's been, interacting with everyone etc. Same as with marv maybe once you get to lylo take another look but I'm pretty confident he's town. I also liked his push on OWS n3. DO NOT LYNCH Harkon - The possibility exists that scum shot marv n1 and harkon is scum claiming vet, but honestly I doubt it. His posts have been townie and good, he can't really expect to claim vet and then survive at lylo, but if he does then reconsider. Until then DO NOT LYNCH. LS - Confirmed gunsmith, worst claim ever. ritoky - Confirmed cop, also a pretty terrible claim. HtS - I've really liked her posting after d1, she's claimed miller early and she's changing her mind A LOT but always for good reasons, which I think is hard to fake as scum. Trfel - I think I agree with DMA. Would be pretty low for scum!trfel to go to such lengths as to use his irl situation to avoid being lynched. Other than that it's hard to tell by his posting, but I think he's likely town. Rsoultin - I've waffled on Rsoultin quite a bit but in rereading she is making good points and her progression seems clear. I also think that scum!rsoultin wouldn't hint at trfel's irl situation regardless of trfel's alignment. Oats - I really don't like Oats' style of posting and I wanted to shoot him n1 but he kinda clings onto stuff that I notice as well and I like his follow-up to stuff. He's been consistent and he's pushing the right people. boxerfred - His list really was bad, even ignoring the fact that he didn't have LS as confirmed town his scumreads just do not line up with mine AT ALL, and he somehow had 6 people leaning scum when I have a real issue finding scum this game. I have a real issue seeing this post from either alignment however all his other posts seem to be of someone trying to figure out the game, so I guess he's town. ruXxar - I honestly can't be bothered to read his stuff today, but my impression regarding him has always been "meh". I expect to live tonight so I'll do some reading tomorrow. Vivax - Ehhhhhhhhh. I dunno, basically. I thought his indifference towards the milo lynch was super scummy but I liked his responses to my accusations sooooo... Hopefully he starts being super plumber soon and we can find out his alignment through that. Marv seems to think he's town. EBH/VA - Hard to read into his posts. His defensiveness during n3 looks off. Basically he immediately said "this makes scott scum so people pushing me are scum" but then when asked he didn't really know who said what??? I have a hard time believing scum would bluehunt in thread rather than scumqt, but then again town shouldn't either soooooooo... NAI? He seems to have a lot of opinions but doesn't really care if anyone listens or who gets lynched. I think he's a good vigi shot, but lynching him can't be bad. OWS - Very forgettable posting, doesn't really seem to care about who gets lynched, I've liked HF's posts on his n3. He has a lot of "I agree with this post I just quoted" posts while adding nothing, He went super hard for MZ but only after marv mentioned that he thinks MZ is scum. The only thing I've liked from him is his push on scott but scott does kinda look like lynchbait.. Breshke - I've read him as town based on his d1 for most of the game but I cannot recall a single thing he's done or said since then. In looking through his filter he immediately sheeped my post regarding milo and claimed that lynching damdred over milo would be bad even if damdred is RB, seems like a weird kind of logic to take. Scum obviously would love a milo lynch over damdred even if damdred is afterwards. He complains about the HF/milo interaction which I get, but then he calls milo confirmed scum which I do not. He showed no hesitation towards the end of d3 which I think makes him scum as milo started looking really townie near the end. Scott - Super lynchbait. Whether he's playing badly as scum or badly as town is hard to see, but I keep coming back to this "BM is gonna flip wanderer 98% of the time" post and I just can't explain how that would come from town. I guess I like him being shot more than lynching him, but if he's town scum is never gonna kill him and I don't want him around at lylo, lol. WoS - I don't know dude. I am probably wrong about at least 1 town read, unless everyone who I have a scumlean on is scum. nh, hf yeah lol >< he can sound good as scum quite easily...there's a reason everyone is wary of him. i need to review the ows meta case cause that also looked good to me when i first saw it, and i was/am still townreading ows to some extent. basically i've got him hovering around null and dipping one way or the other depending on my mood >< would also put viva up, like, pretty confident he's town here cause of his scattered approach to the game...bresh i need to review. i had a town toneread on him early and have pretty much ignored him since, but i know he kinda fell off the map mmm otherwise pretty close? i'd nudge ows up into null until the case on him is looked over and ruxx down into scumlean still...but scott is definitely my primary scumread at the moment | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:48 GMT
#6746
On July 15 2015 06:44 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: @.@ - va - ows shitfight lol >< i just wasted like 45 mins of my life i think of those two i think va's the better shot and i don't know why people are calling for an hf shot, other than he's being an annoying prat and they're afraid we can't lynch him later if needed lol >< (which may actually be a valid point but i'm willing to be optimistic) Why aren't you doing anything now that we are through the lined up lynches? ^^ i'm still in class, lovely, while y'all spammed the thread like hellions exam tomorrow already said you won't see much of me till after any other pointless questions you'd like to ask? | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:51 GMT
#6748
On July 15 2015 06:50 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 06:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 15 2015 06:44 Harkon wrote: On July 15 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: @.@ - va - ows shitfight lol >< i just wasted like 45 mins of my life i think of those two i think va's the better shot and i don't know why people are calling for an hf shot, other than he's being an annoying prat and they're afraid we can't lynch him later if needed lol >< (which may actually be a valid point but i'm willing to be optimistic) Why aren't you doing anything now that we are through the lined up lynches? ^^ i'm still in class, lovely, while y'all spammed the thread like hellions exam tomorrow already said you won't see much of me till after any other pointless questions you'd like to ask? Not really. and hell froze over | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:53 GMT
#6753
On July 15 2015 06:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Rso go read the scum qt of my most recent newbie game to see that Hf is lying through his teeth. i've got the case on you bookmarked, ows, no worries...if you're telling the truth i'll find it | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:56 GMT
#6755
On July 15 2015 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It annoys me when people say cases are good when they don't do the research in regards to what actually makes them cases. calm down lol >< if there's one thing people usually don't accuse me of, it's blindly sheeping cases. even if a case looks good, that doesn't mean it's accurate, and hf has a habit (kind of as both alignments, really) of exaggerating so yeah yo, clarity, hf's filter in himalayas is a good example of his scum game. it's certainly the most recent. ippo is another good one. that might help you understand what people are saying. both games are linked in my profile | ||
rsoultin
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July 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#6761
On July 15 2015 06:55 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, are you enjoying this game at all? not particularly, in all honesty. i overestimated my ability to keep up with a thread this size while doing that chem stuff so many others seem good at ^^ that and i'm easily frustrated at things, as you well know why? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 21:59 GMT
#6762
On July 15 2015 06:56 Half the Sky wrote: My problem with the OWS case is there are only 3 games of OWS mafia games in the database (Hajime is inaccurate, Kita had that wrong) and Aperture 4 aside, the other two are ages ago, so regardless of HF's alignment, I don't think it's reliable. Furthermore, I read through OWS's Aperture 4 filter, and there was plenty of sarcasm, lols, etc in that filter. If HF meant serious as opposed to easygoing, then I'd say the first half of that filter there are definitely posts where he's more serious than others, I mean he has to act like he's finding scum but he's definitely not uptight and there are posts where he seems relaxed and doesn't appear to give too many cares, so if he's getting that from Aperture 4 I'm going to have to disagree with him. I would recommend reading the Aperture 4 filter and then coming to a judgement if you really are tentative on scum OWS. If you're getting that from filters in his earlier games, then.....I'd argue it's not reliable cause it was quite long time ago, unless you play with OWS off site or have some other information I'm not aware of. right, right, i remember glossing over you saying this earlier. thanks | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:00 GMT
#6765
On July 15 2015 06:56 ruXxar wrote: So here's something I also am thinking about. From what I saw from damdred it doesn't seem like mafia are actually hard-bussing each other(some say that he likes to do that, but for this exercise I'll assume he didn't) Using that and some arbitrary measure of what I consider pushing hard / throwing shit at each other I'd say that these people aren't mafia together(either town/town or town/mafia): HF + Rsoultin. HF + Trfel. HF + Obi. HF + HTS. HF + Harkon Ruxx + Trfel. Ruxx + Rsoultin. Boxerfred + Clarity. Boxerfred + Oats. I might've missed some interactions but yeah. Not sure if this is a valid line of thought, but I'm thinking that as more mafia flip we can see if this is a tendency that holds true or if they are all just playing individually separate of each other. definition of generalization fallacy right here lol >< one person plays mafia such and such a way therefore all must | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:14 GMT
#6776
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:18 GMT
#6789
meh, and this is exactly why i can't get a read on you, hf >< over ls? really? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#6796
i'll try to at least keep up with the game and will come back with who i want to lynch after the exam wednesday lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:23 GMT
#6800
On July 15 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you can't tell i'm majorly on tilt this entire game so provoking me or poking me or treating me in any way that makes me non productive will instantly flip me to being a negative ass hole all i wanted to do was give you guys my read on obi and have fun -.- so i'll just afk and you can lynch me i don't understand this attitude from town? like seriously, hf. i know you're some sort of town god or something but you honestly don't have the resiliency to deal with people scumreading you? i find that rather unbelievable -_- i'll check into your ows case and i hope you'll take some time, cool down, and come back to the thread so that those of us still on the fence can work with you if you're scum, whatever, but i hope you see the logic in this if you're town, yeah? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 14 2015 22:49 GMT
#6822
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:04 GMT
#6840
On July 15 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote: no maybe you've misread, it's almost entirely out of game reasons that i am mad and people are just needlessly antagonizing me and it's making it worse so i'd rather you kill me before i flame the entire game's worth of players also, it should be obvious i'm town from obi's point that ksc's read on me was really forced and that only comes from mafia finding it hard to town read a towny because they have to come up with unintuitive reasons anyway last last post yeah, that wasn't clear :/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:05 GMT
#6841
On July 15 2015 08:57 boxerfred wrote: HtS, were you the one who argued against my meta scum lean on Kelsier a few days ago? I said already that I had that feeling that KSC is not town based from my experience in Himalayas (or was it not themed, I always mix it up). Then I have that scum lean on HtS since I feel like she's pulling the same stuff she did in Himalayas: seemingly interacting in a town way while not commiting too much on something. HtS, can you give your top scum reads and your top town reads? Not sure about Clarity now since his "fuck you" towards HF's martyring felt really random. I don't understand that reaction at all. Willing to bus maybe? Can you please explain, Clarity? Trfel made lots of efforts during the night. That was not necessary an I'm willing to give him town cred for that. Breshke pops up every now and then, not liking that. After diving OWS, I town read him. Making sense, being consistent, pushing, bringing up old issues, lots and lots of reasons to not scumread him. I dived Ruxxar since I remember that he townread Damdred as well as Kelsier pretty much day 1+2. He backed off of his KSC read however, without really needing to do so. There was not much pressure on KSC at all. Breshke said this too and he's not necessarily trusting Ruxxar yet which kind of makes me read him town. Time to check who's alive and try to sort. The list I provided some hours ago was fastly written with a lot of subjective thoughts and almost no deep diving. Town reads: boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (explained above) LightningStrike (claimed blue, weaponsmith) Town leans: Breshke ruXxar Clarity_nl Trfel (explained above) Null: Vivax (need to look into, I feel like he's popping up every now and then, drive-by posting, not liking that) WaveofShadow (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) rsoultin (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) Scum leans: Half The Sky (explained above) Oatsmaster (almost a null read, need to look into) Scum reads: Holyflare (way too many posts that did not achieve much. posts are hard to read, harder to proof-read. I feel like there's a lot of derailing, spamming, now joined by martyring. since he got the reputation of a really sick player, I don't buy the martyring. Also, I feel like he's capable of pulling the VT claim. I want to make that high risk, high reward move of lynching him though he's got the biggest filter in the game. if nothing pops up over the day, my vote will most likely stay on him.) I guess that's it for today. 2am here, good night people. /discuss! XEliteBlueHunter69X discuss what? lol...most of your reads have like...no explanation? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:11 GMT
#6843
like it actually would explain a ton, given as i said the shitfighting and sniping is very indicative of his scum game, yet how he's approached it has been very...sporadic?...this game and there are times when his pushes look decent. like, if he's having issues outside the game it would explain why it's so difficult to get a read on him and i'm seeing elements of both alignments in his play problem is i don't really know what to believe and i can't say that even if he's telling the truth that means he's not scum here...so i'm back at nai -_- frankly, if he's decided he's not going to play for whatever reason, better to lynch him before lylo if this really is just a shit hf game, or he's like bound to be pushed then lol >< if we're lucky, he actually flips scum i do want to have a look at that ows case before the cycle is over, though, even if hts says there aren't many games to look into | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:16 GMT
#6845
if he insists on not playing it's a policy lynch today, no question | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:24 GMT
#6847
On July 15 2015 09:18 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote: in all honesty, i'm actually fairly irritated at hf if this is true, because he could have just mentioned it much earlier. it would have still been nai, but a huge portion of my read was how friggin aggressive and volatile he was being toward everyone, so we maybe could have actually adjusted to it if he was town and, which in turn would probably have made reading him infinitely easier. water under the bridge, i suppose -_- if he insists on not playing it's a policy lynch today, no question Kinda where I'm at. I'm gonna be real sad if you're scum, rsoultin. lol >< no worries <3 i'm an idiot and an asshole sometimes, and i'm definitely far too easy to get worked up, but i'm town ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:28 GMT
#6851
On July 15 2015 09:24 boxerfred wrote: Chose to dive Damdred before going to bed. He interacted a helluva lot with Kelsier. Personally. There's this on rsoul: There's this post: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote: Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today Trfel Ritoky LIGHTNINGSTRIKE these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference Even bringing up Trfel later, when he dropped off the radar a bit: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? That post came where a lot of pressure was put on Trfel if I remember correctly. That makes me feel Trfel is a townie. Bussing that hard on one of the first days? I don't think so. That strengthens my town lean to a full blown town read. Damdred even did a case on Clarity: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote: Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today. I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading. The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF. The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning. The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point. TLDR Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post Lacks follow through on some posts/questions Lacks scum reads Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks. This guy is scum vot ehim. And some people (me too) followed. More town cred for clarity in my eyes. However, some posts later, I find this: Show nested quote + On July 09 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote: On July 09 2015 06:29 ruXxar wrote: On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death. Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on kelsier/breshke/obi Finally back on my PC, that's great, can read filters n stuff. Kelsier: Liked him at the start. Was top townread. As game went on presence fell off. Don't understand his response to my rsoultin case. One strange reply then never mentions it again? The last half of his filter is awful. Appears to be active without actually involving himself. Has fallen down from Top town to slightly above null. Breshke: Been on the periphery, not really paid much attention to him. Currently null. Obi: Didn't particularly have an opinion of him at the start. Reading his filter a lot of his opinions align with mine so that's a +. I liked his response to my case on rsoul +. Town lean. I like this post, I like ruxxor. He just seems so carefree with his thoughts. Damdred's response to the post that Breshke is relating to and which I brought up some posts ago. There's no follow up on this, it's simply a "I like that". I feel like that is an attempt to continue the KSC bus ("I'm okay with someone who starts scuimreading someone I already poke continuesly and disagree with" or so could be the picture he wants to paint). Show nested quote + On July 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: It's sad that Geript lost his reasoning. It's ok when I flip just look into Kel. Rs, milo So. That says: "Here's a scum member, Kel, here's a town member, milo, here's someone who's alignment we don't know, rsoul." Does not feel very helpful. But: Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote: HI EVERYONE, the first thing is like to say is ty everyone for a mildly enjoyable game, it wasn't to much a pain to read when I sat down and read it wven if it was long. Most everyone is a joy to play with and I'm glad I was able to play for a short time with some of my favorites <3 So now to get down to the basics of trying to leave the game in a better place when I die even though I've played like an idiot today. I feel like these people are extremely towny still in this game and are probably the top town. Marv Ruxxar Geript Ritoky hark Each one of these has something special about their games. I was deathly wrong about ritoky early because he broke his meta that I knew of him, but his later postings plus the kp went through even though he was blocked. Hark and geript are confirmed blues to me, geript tracked me to my target can't argue there. Hark ate a shot and Marv is his normal towny self. LS is interesting I'm that he claims he gave a gun to someone but we have a shit ton of blue claims, so if someone pipes up tommorow claiming a horrible shot o. One of these top towns its possible ls is fake claiming scum vigi on some bizzaro world but overall I think the claim is pretty believable. I like both HTS and I like Breshke. Both seem to care about the game and generally are trying to push what they think in the thread. Those are the people I am generally town reading no matter what. People I'm scum reading are Rsoultin Milo MZ Trfel I've talked a good bit about Milo and rsoultin in my filter lynch them. geript and a few others seem sure about mz. Theblack of carss bothers me and the ability to actively lurk while barely doing much. Wave fits in this category to btw. Trfel doesn't care to me when I look at the game more than likely is scum If I had to guess the last scum its someone in hf or wave. But maybe I'm horrible at reading wave, ke maybe to idk a bit torn any questions I'll be happy to answer before death Now look at that. He said before dieing that he wanted town to look into Kelsier. However, Kelsier disappeared from the scum list he provided. Those four people have two dead among them who both flipped town. The town reads list has even 4 people in it that flipped town. I am actually willing (due to the fact that Kelsier did not appear on that list) to think that no scum member is among the people listed there. So town cred for Ruxxar and rsoultin. So here is my updated read list: Town reads: boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (explained above) LightningStrike (claimed blue, weaponsmith) Town leans: Breshke ruXxar Clarity_nl Trfel (explained above) rsoultin (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) Null: Vivax (need to look into, I feel like he's popping up every now and then, drive-by posting, not liking that) WaveofShadow (need to look into. Dropped off my radar.) Scum leans: Half The Sky Oatsmaster (almost a null read, need to look into) Scum reads: Holyflare much as it makes me all warm and gushy inside when people aren't calling me shit or scum, bf, i highly doubt there's much you can get out of a damdy post that he wrote already knowing that he was going to flip | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:30 GMT
#6855
On July 15 2015 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote: xebh, are you VA? Lol rsoul, would you even believe him if he said it. hm? earlier? lol, i said it would be nai regardless for a reason xP (assuming you're referring to hf) but i probably would have adjusted my play toward him a bit, just as i do with anyone who has a stated reason (usually pre-game) for playing differently? or like something big happens like with ls and his friend last game -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 00:35 GMT
#6857
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 01:41 GMT
#6864
On July 15 2015 10:37 Breshke wrote: It is a really weird day to actually martyr aswell since this is the first day where there is no like "mechanical" reason to lynch someone so people would actually be talking about reads. Add onto that the two other times this game HF has matyred and both seeming really fake im actually fine with lynching him if he is going to choose to give up. IRL stuff sucks but I know like even if your mafia HF not sure why you are talking about quiting or giving up, that aint you and i dont even know you. Although I still kind of want to lynch ruxxar first even though the stuff I don't like about him never seems to be as bad as i think it is. BF still kinda has me like wtf especially since he keeps saying HTS played in himalayas which she hosted and he seems to be basing a read on that? Trefel are you around? heh, yeeeeah i think bf has been told several times that hts wasn't in himalayas...in the words of the town!ls...have you been smoking weed or something :0 lol i don't think anyone even has to ask if i want to lynch ruxx or not >< in all honesty i would like to review his filter one last time first but i'm fairly confident he's scum despite everyone calling me crazy for the read ^^ but objectively, bresh, i think hf is the lynch today if he's decided to quit the game. i don't want him in mylo/lylo if he's town doing this -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 02:09 GMT
#6867
On July 15 2015 11:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do people have a real reason to read Ebh as town anymore? not particularly but i'd be lying if i said that i've reviewed his filter recently | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 04:20 GMT
#6874
he explained the complaint about the lynch adequately enough, i believe, which was an earlier issue with him his complaints regarding hf and myself were misplaced for sure -_- i'd gone out of my way to more or less not deal with hf (and i think he was doing the same thing lolol ><) when i got caught up with the thread. that's still odd apart from that there's insisting that his being right makes him town. like i've seen him dismantle my own scum team in carnaval (though not successfully enough to bring it home xP lol) so i'm not going to say there's NO WAY he could read milo as town and ksc as scum last cycle, however demanding town credit for being right and not voting on a wagon that absolutely was going to be the lynch while he was on scum that had no chance in hell of being lynched? yeah. that doesn't sit well with me overall, though, i'd rather see him participate some more, especially now that kels and scott have flipped | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 13:06 GMT
#6889
you've been hard-defending/hard-townreading hf all game practically? (i know you claim that you haven't, but taking up shit reasons to call me scum that basically involve "obstructing" hf is pretty much the same thing xP unless you're a supremely illogical person) like, it's nice that you're doing work and all with the flipped scum filters, but you don't seem to really be getting anywhere with them? why so cool all of a sudden on hf? too me it looks a whole lot like you're just setting up to vote him if he doesn't come back while making it easy to not lynch him if he does -_- does the martyring make you think he's less town or are you just "pissed"? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 13:08 GMT
#6890
unless something's changed, bresh was actually suggesting lynching ruxx before hf earlier, so pretty safe to say he's scumreading him, lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 13:47 GMT
#6893
who do you want to lynch if he comes back? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 13:54 GMT
#6898
Why vivax again? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 14:07 GMT
#6901
I've been reading him town but I don't remember this trfel thing. Quotes? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:28 GMT
#6971
On July 16 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 00:05 ruXxar wrote: On July 15 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote: Eh last is def nai lol vivax has made me feel like shite a couple of times I've been reading him town but I don't remember this trfel thing. Quotes? Here's vivax progression in reads on Trfel in chronological order: Response to holyflare's case on Trfel: On July 07 2015 01:20 Vivax wrote: I can sheep that HF. But I don't want the geript shit to be ignored either. Then says he doesn't want to lynch trfel because trfel posted some useless content. On July 07 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote: I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought. We should kill geript for being a liar. On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote: I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes. Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. Then he goes on to berate HF's push on trfel. On July 07 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote: This whole Trfel thing HF brings up is more along the lines of "BUT YOU AREN'T PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, LYNCH" like the last two games where I did exactly that at the beginning of the game for the most part, to demonstrate how prevalent this shitty heuristic is. Then he suddenly decides that trfel can die anyway. On July 08 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote: I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote. I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well. Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises. Then asked who he want to lynch he says his top scum after geript is trfel.. On July 08 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote: On July 08 2015 05:06 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 08 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: This game is insane, at the start of the day with plenty of room to do things, some people go nuts about Trfel. When at the end of the day it turns out he didn't deliver jack for real, they start lynching into cop claims. Who do you want to lynch Vivax? Assume geript is off the table Trfel? I thought it was obvious. Now he suddenly thinks Trfel should "possibly" be lynched. On July 08 2015 18:07 Vivax wrote: I don't wanna end up tunneled actually. I still have to get a more compelte look at you. + All of this distracts me from killing geript, WoS and possibly Trfel Then he's irritated that HF dropped his suspicions of trfel: On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up. On July 11 2015 12:25 Vivax wrote: On July 11 2015 12:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote: That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff. I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him. Well you can fuck off first of all with this cause when I was ready to vote for him you magically lost interest and now you make it an issue again. Then he wants to lynch trfel again: On July 12 2015 08:42 Vivax wrote: I'm really tempted to go for Trfel today. Then he's like nope: On July 12 2015 19:03 Vivax wrote: Gonna TR Trfel and boxer cause they don't attempt to go after me when quite a bit of people expressed that wish already, and after I pressured them at least a little bit and was willing to lynch/consider milo during the night. He seems pretty erratic with regards to his stance on trfel. It's like he's trying to create a narrative of having a dynamic change in stance on trfel but it's so inconsistent I find it hard to believe that it's genuine. Are you taking into account the context as to why each of these steps are happening? You're not looking at Trfel's activity relative to these reads and Vivax retracted because of the amount of content not the quality of content. Then you're saying he can "suddenly" decide that Trfel can die? Look at the timestamps, that's a day or so later. I mean is he changing his stance a lot? Yes. Are there reasons for his changes in stance? Nearly every time, yes, namely Trfel's activity, for one thing (I mean just look at the gaps in the timestamps, it's apparent it's long enough and reasonable to keep reconsidering Trfel's status in the game the longer his inactivity goes on from a town standpoint and he wasn't the only one anyhow. Marv even voiced reservation and so did Harkon.) Nowhere, do you consider why. If you want to criticise those reasons that's another thing, but overall this case and the next paragraph you have on Vivax are pretty poor, even the geript thing, I can see a town Vivax trying to meta read geript and fail to get that across. I scumread him initially for that push on geript but now that re-evaluated in the context of all his gameplay it doesn't seem so bad. And not saying you're wrong on geript, doesn't mean anything, that's NAI, most veterans are intelligent enough to drop a scumlean once a tracker claim is verified. TLDR - your cases are poor, I think you're taking things out of context, and I think you are pushing him for poor reasons. what you are saying does not exclusively make him scum, and in the context of his later game play he's a slight townlean. If you are scum - I want to look into what Breshke said on you on 341 if I ever get the time today - this would be one of the reasons. hts said it for me lol ^^ those aren't really cases, ruxx? dynamic reads are usually actually easier for town than scum, and all i can really see in the geript thing you're actually scumreading vivax for is like...not being nice? or humble when he was wrong? like...that doesn't make anyone scum -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:35 GMT
#6977
On July 16 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 05:30 boxerfred wrote: On July 16 2015 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Meh. Okay. So why are you scum reading me? I said I misread something and took it back. Does it not bother you that both of your scumleans are on the same wagon as you? no offense, ows, but if hf is scum giving up, you're really trying to say that his teammates won't buss him? lol >< like, if he continues to abandon the thread i fully expect a pile-on and it hardly has any bearing on his alignment at this point -_- it's called a policy lynch for a reason | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:37 GMT
#6979
On July 16 2015 06:31 boxerfred wrote: EBH's filter is decent but short as fuck. I actually like it. I'm not voting him today. Another thought that came to my mind: We had 3 NK's this night, all on town: Marvellosity the DLME Investigator has been killed! Scott31337 the DLME Investigator has been killed! Harkon the Lieutenant has been killed! I assume that the Harkon shot came from scum. Pretty much confirmed blue. How many shots can scum pull off with 2 members left? MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN? Then, I assume that someone who was handed a gun by LightningStrike shot. Most likely, the target was scott because he was scumread quite heavily. The other kill would've been a scum kill on marv then. What is the thought process between killing marv and not LightningStrike? Recognizing him as an experienced player who's capable of finding scum? I'd say HtS and HF could think that way. Since the gun LS handed out was a 1-shot, I think it's safe for him to say who he gave the gun to. Also, I want the gun bearer to tell who he shot and why. That would make it clearer which targets where shot by scum and it would confirm two people as town. Or, LS + the one who claims having received the gun are the last two scum members. That is only possible if there is another blue that is able to shoot in the game. At this point, we have 5 dead blues and 1 more claimed blue, LS. That makes six blues vs. four reds. I lack experience in that game so please tell me, is that a valid and balanced setup that is likely to be used by Blazinghand? Okay, so tl;dr: LS, who received the gun? Confirm one more townie please. Guy with gun, tell us who you shot. Also, is 6 blues vs. 4 reds okay and a "normal" setup? pms are there for a reason ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#6984
On July 16 2015 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Honestly I feel like the thread is too stagnant for this to be a 100% mafia lynch. I keep looking for reasons to not jump on this lynch but I can't find any aside from that. So I'm thinking I look for mafia outside of this lynch or in the people that are jumping on it. I can't find any. Bleh. i'm aware of what you said i'm saying the reasoning's faulty -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:54 GMT
#6991
lol bf you're way behind here >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#6994
bf, i'm assuming you have a reason to think ls is scum and that's why you're doubting his claim? problem is i see no reason to doubt his claim unless you think the real gunsmith hasn't outed and hts and ls are like fooling us all blind -_- which i guess is possibly but not terribly likely xP now, ls giving a gun to scum is more likely but they'd use it just as hts did unless they have onegu-sized cahones so...not sure where you're going with this? can you explain? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#6997
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#7001
On July 16 2015 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing. Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town. lol the solution to reasonable people possibly being scum is always just to lynch us at lylo xP we won't make it that far of course, clar i was asking because i wanted to see what got bf on this tangent in the first place? i don't think anyone who has kept up with the game would be doubting ls at all right now | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 22:06 GMT
#7002
On July 16 2015 07:03 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though. alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night. yeah not possible with the setup not calling you dumb, btw...a "dumbtell" means saying something that kinda telegraphs you're town because scum should already know it. some players do it on purpose, but i had the same thought as clarity when i saw your posting lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#7024
On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote: But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no? I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative. o.0 oh i wasn't aware of that, truffle | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#7027
eh i haven't really touched clarity's filter much either @.@ we were basically posting identical responses (with different wording) for awhile, though, which generally gives me a good feeling about people. i'll pop back into his filter when i'm looking over ows (va is saying it now, too?) and probably hts/bresh cause i've ignored them a lot lol >< who am i kidding? i just need to reread things in general. anyway, yeah...i'm here if you're ready to play, hf | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:07 GMT
#7031
On July 16 2015 08:04 Holyflare wrote: Obiwan is probably also mafia for my case and the fact that he's super hedged on me despite calling me scum all the time last night and seeing me "clearly misrepresent his meta" and he's only not voting me because there's a wagon on me? That's super bs too. Don't listen to HtS his filters are lies. o.0 lol his filters are lies, what? yeah i agree that it's strange that as soon as you could be the lynch he started poking everywhere else | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#7035
On July 16 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote: Breshke - I've read him as town based on his d1 for most of the game but I cannot recall a single thing he's done or said since then. In looking through his filter he immediately sheeped my post regarding milo and claimed that lynching damdred over milo would be bad even if damdred is RB, seems like a weird kind of logic to take. Scum obviously would love a milo lynch over damdred even if damdred is afterwards. He complains about the HF/milo interaction which I get, but then he calls milo confirmed scum which I do not. He showed no hesitation towards the end of d3 which I think makes him scum as milo started looking really townie near the end. Breshke actually said this? Ugh I need to go to bed, but when was this? presumably during the jk claim, but i'd have to verify it makes sense from the perspective that everyone was saying their alignments were linked...obviously erroneous now...eh actually that's not a bad point at all cause even if it kinda makes sense from town valuing jk over cop if bresh knows their alignments it also "clears" damdy lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#7036
On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote: I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on... don't say this -_- like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#7042
On July 16 2015 08:13 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 08:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote: I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on... don't say this -_- like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all Hmmmm, alright. I'm just a little upset atm at how this game is going tbh. nah, i get it. i've been kinda expecting him to poke his nose back in, frankly lol >< but if he hadn't...(and if this is just a drive-by, too, in all honesty but i'm kinda hoping it's not) then yeah i'd be on that wagon, too, if only to prevent town from having to make the decision in lylo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:23 GMT
#7044
On July 16 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: I fully intended to absolutely not post again. lol xP good thing you can't help yourself okay, guys. i'm out but i'll be back with some things later tonight | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#7048
On July 16 2015 08:25 Half the Sky wrote: I'm not happy with my play to some extent (and I'm not even going to touch the n2 vig shot) but independent of n2, I am pretty frustrated. But like I said, where my head is at - ruXxar/EBH, some of the others I also have to re-evaluate. And double check on Breshke and Clarity. And I'm hoping I stumble on something important before next day cycle because I fly to NYC Friday >_< I can still play, but the time will still be more limited. But will be on US East time so I just need to not fuck up EoDs >_< ruxx can definitely be scum with how little his reads seemed to have changed (before i've reread his filter, mind you) and i dunnae i don't think it's a bad idea to review ows at all, but that's because i'm kinda leaning town on ebh and i have some respect (not blind respect after last game lolol ><) for his reads. i know what you said about ows' game but hf/vivax (i think?) have a good point on his wishy-washy approach to hf today like this whole "thread is stagnant therefore hf must be town" is pretty horrible reasoning, tbf | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:33 GMT
#7050
On July 16 2015 08:27 Holyflare wrote: Man I just read obi's filters from his other games and this is exactly like his mafia game? There is no way he defends so many people so many times in his town games, he's super unsure and lost and a lazy pile of crap in town games and free town reads, silly defences and questions in mafia games. Just like here. on my list of things to do -_- but if hts is right about how small/outdated a pool we have to work with there i don't think it's enough to push ows on, not without a little more certainty. ksc getting modkilled was a windfall lol >< but we're running out of lynches pretty quickly here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:38 GMT
#7052
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote: i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#7055
On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote: i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing -snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 15 2015 23:57 GMT
#7058
On July 16 2015 08:54 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote: On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote: i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing -snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^ i don't particularly care, you ARE doing exactly what I said, it's not a snipe if you think the opposite can you give me the work that you've done the past 3 cycles and how it has affected the game? nope ^^ you can read my filter instead of pretending that you have i'm busy with something that actually matters | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 00:05 GMT
#7060
i don't have to explain or defend myself to you. i've been involved in every major thing, literally every major thing that has gone on in this thread, and i realize that i haven't been at the forefront but y'all already knew i wouldn't be. you completely ignored context to concoct some bs case on me that i frankly ignored because even attempting to address it made me irrationally angry so no. i am not going to defend my play to you. whenever you feel like getting off your ass and actually attempting to make a genuine read on me that isn't informed by ego, be my guest | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 00:46 GMT
#7067
On July 16 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote: Well it's quite a simple question that deserves an honest answer. Not an argument or anything, if you're town then I am simply wrong on you and I have actually read your filter to get to that comment. I feel like my statement is correct. If you think the opposite can you please just tell me what you think you have pushed and what you have achieved in the past 3 cycles? I'm just going to repaste this because I cannot be more civil than I am already being. If you are town then it would be more than helpful to stop me calling you mafia and perhaps help me to look in other directions if you were just to succinctly paraphrase your play to me in a few sentences such as:
I am in no way being antagonistic here. I have read your filter and yes, you are at the forefront of everything but then so am I and people are calling me mafia. Why does that matter at all? The simple answer is that it's easy for high activity players to be at the forefront of everything because all they have to do is comment on things. I think you have done a LOT of commenting and not a lot of anything else (namely pushing scum reads). That is shown by today how you have defaulted to my lynch while calling me town but have not concluded who the mafia team are or are doing any intuitive digging like I would expect you to be doing as town, in fact it looks like your mafia play where you get lazy and just comment on things and I think this has been indicative of your play for the past few cycles. So, in the interest of fairness I would like you to evaluate your own play to ME simply because I am interested to hear it. Please. eh -_- i may or may not (i of course cannot confirm or deny) have been told to play nice look. i told y'all at the beginning of the night cycle that i wouldn't have time for this game until after my exam today. whether you want to accept that or not is your prerogative but it's not like i haven't been open about it. there's a reason i got so far behind last week and it didn't suddenly disappear this week despite that i have still been pushing ruxx, and dove ebh. it's not a lot but it's not nothing, either. you can accuse me of only commenting on others' thoughts, and you'd be mostly right ^^ but i haven't had the time to look at anything yet which, btw, everyone knew so as soon as i start talking about looking into things now that my exam's over, you come in and start calling me mafia? seems pretty opportunistic to me, frankly i do not think and have not implied that you are town. i was trying to give you a chance to prove yourself which should have been very obvious with how i handled your martyring, which you are conveniently choosing to ignore i like how you try to pass it off as me not doing anything for three cycles ^^ but when you ask you talk specifically about "yesterday". so why don't you do me a favor and leave me alone, unless you actually plan on trying to lynch me today. i don't care to put up with your sniping and it will not do anything to make me want to look more into this game, if you're town and that's what you're thinking | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 00:55 GMT
#7068
On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny. I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything. Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong. I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? so much this, hf also, why am i scumreading ruxxar after playing with him and you're not? and none of this "he's not playing like he did last game" cause the preachy saying things without really getting anywhere stuff is exactly like he was playing when he was actually bothering to interact with people last game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 01:02 GMT
#7071
On July 16 2015 09:59 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote: On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny. I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything. Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong. I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Nah, I just explained I don't have a read on ruxxar. His situation is also a bit different because he JUST played in a mafia game with me together so I expected him to have a different insight into things than Clarity for example who keeps denying anything being told to him. Ruxxar's read is based on his anecdotal facts and own point of view and Clarity's is based purely on.... who knows and when you don't really know a player and everyone is screaming in your face otherwise and you still keep that read then it's pretty fucking scummy to me. Yeh, I do have a weakness for people defending me too and rsoultin should know that because she did exactly the same to me in another game so saying it's weird is pretty bad for her anyway. Did you read my stuff on Obi Breshke? Both the night posts and post I just made now? Why do you have him as town? i've attempted multiple times, hf, to get you to actually look into ruxx, which you refuse to do. it's not "pretty bad" for me to call it weird. if you know this is a weakness of yours, why are you blatantly ignoring it? why are you ignoring that ruxx should be more wary of your game after playing scum with you, not less? why are you ignoring all the people saying this doesn't look like his town game, and did you ever go back to the days i asked you to? or just ignored that, too? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 01:08 GMT
#7074
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 01:11 GMT
#7076
On July 16 2015 10:07 Holyflare wrote: I've ignored everything you have said to me for the past few cycles, it's as simple as that. I did not want to start any more nonsense. I don't think his game play was anything alike to his last game at the start of the game. I made that abundantly clear to you. Marv also agreed and so did Vivax. I have not ignored it in the slightest. I think he took the correct stance on you day 1 and upon re-reading my filter along with his, his push was indeed a good one on you because I was far better looking than I originally thought. I have not read his filter in the past cycle or two, no, but being lazy/not at a computer for a week and a combination of my early town read based on his play made me avoid him. Sure, he might be mafia and I certainly haven't put him in my town list like you are implying I am doing. I literally just said I do not have a read on him to Breshke while you attack me for something completely opposite. lol and you accuse me of doing nothing while blatantly ignoring what i post ^^ good job btw if you're into rereading your filter for "towniness", perhaps you should reread your case and see why i think you're deliberately misrepresenting me, or does that not fit into your agenda? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 01:19 GMT
#7080
yeah, i realize i'm being hypocritical and am going to stop grilling you for the time-being hf and let you do your thing, too | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 03:30 GMT
#7101
On July 16 2015 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: eh, truffle, oats was pulling a bats and thinking he could find scum via a pm...that everyone knew, but still lol >< he thought he caught geript because geript's response made it rather clear that he wasn't vt yeah, i realize i'm being hypocritical and am going to stop grilling you for the time-being hf and let you do your thing, too scumslipping via not having a town pm is a thing, but its a lot less often now because pms are in OP. lol yeah i know that's why i found it funny that was the tack you were taking ^^ were you just doing it to see his reaction or something? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 03:32 GMT
#7102
On July 16 2015 12:18 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 10:21 Breshke wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 16 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote: On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny. I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything. Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong. I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Well, oats pushed geript for his "scum slip" thing all of day one right? Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. scumslip It genuinely looks like Oats is a VT and "caught" out geript in his scum slip thing and besides that he had actual logical reasons to scum read geript too, he elaborated more on it later: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 08 2015 01:55 Harkon wrote: Let's look at oats scumslip accusations: On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. scumslip This is extremely stupid since geript says in the very same post that roles (for example the VT role investigator) are listed in the OP. On July 07 2015 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote: I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators. scumslip x2 This is weird because geript doesn't connect the investigator to the VT role like I just said. I also already pointed that out when it happened. The 2 investigators comment itself is perfectly fine. except geript isnt referring to the VT role pm when he says "roles", hes referring to the blue roles available in the game. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 08 2015 02:11 geript wrote: On July 08 2015 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 08 2015 02:04 geript wrote: On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote: DMLE Investigator (Vanilla Townie): You’ve been working in Precinct 16 for a long time. You’ve seen a lot of messed up things in your day. When the going gets tough, you don’t stop. Every case takes a little bit out of you, but someone has to do this work. You are a VT. Investigator Extraordinaire (Vigilante): You keep on thinking back to your idol, Rita Skeeter. You want to be just like her. You’re not gonna let things like an “ongoing investigation” or “hostage situation” stop you from writing your character assassination pieces. You’re a journalist; you and your quick-quotes quill doesn’t afraid of anyone. At night, you can fire a bullet to deal 1 kp to a target. You can't shoot during night 1. Very hard to read the OP. Much tough. Very braindead. So why didnt you say something referring investigator to vt? Why would I need to? because thats clearly what I was talking about if you had gotten the vt role pm. But you didnt, so you messed up. To oats, it was obvious that geript did not get the VT pm and he spent ages tunneling on it (I actually really like all of his posts d1 and maybe I should ignore oats less ) so if he was mafia he'd know that geript was actually blue. Vivax is a bit hard to quantify but i'll try in a bit I kinda wrote this off because i thought it was dumb. Like the last quote chain especially im not sure what interaction oats was looking for with geript. I found it weird but not alignment indicative weird more like i dont get this weird. I thought it was fairly clear that geript ment that the word investigator shouldn't mean anything to anyone because the pms are listen in the OP. I do understand the logic though that oats seemed fairly certain it meant geript was not VT so if he was mafia he would have likely pushed for that nightkill. This is a good reason to townread oats. On July 16 2015 09:59 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote: On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny. I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything. Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong. I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Nah, I just explained I don't have a read on ruxxar. His situation is also a bit different because he JUST played in a mafia game with me together so I expected him to have a different insight into things than Clarity for example who keeps denying anything being told to him. Ruxxar's read is based on his anecdotal facts and own point of view and Clarity's is based purely on.... who knows and when you don't really know a player and everyone is screaming in your face otherwise and you still keep that read then it's pretty fucking scummy to me. Yeh, I do have a weakness for people defending me too and rsoultin should know that because she did exactly the same to me in another game so saying it's weird is pretty bad for her anyway. Did you read my stuff on Obi Breshke? Both the night posts and post I just made now? Why do you have him as town? Okay i see how that doesn't really apply but can you look at this post please. On July 14 2015 01:29 ruXxar wrote: I was scum with HF last game, and I have a townlean on him this game. In general I find HF hard to read, he doesn't conform to the stereotypic mafia player. There are however small nuances that I think makes him town this game, compared to last game. 1) He's actually pushing logical targets. I find myself agreeing with a lot of his reasoning, as compared to just trying to tunnel people to death with weak arguments and a play on emotions. Last game he tried to lynch people by ridiculing them and their arguments and being over the top and shouting at them. Blowing things out of proportions and trying to make them look stupid. I'm seeing a relatively more "calm" and reasoning HF this game. More serious and down to business. 2) He's more wishy washy. This doesn't mean that he IS wishy washy in a general sense, but in a relative sense compared to last game. Especially the night when were lynched BM he seemed a bit all over the place, uncertain where to go. You see that he sometimes have a hard time picking a target to lynch, I can relate to that very well. That isn't the scum HF I played with last game. He mainly picked one target and stuck with it, and didn't waver much. 3) He's re-evaluating his stance. You can see multiple times throughout the game that he's re-evaluating his stance on people. This is apparent in how he's re-evaluating his stance on both trfel, hts, milo and others continuously, jumping from towny to scummy based on their actions/reactions. That's my opinion on HF so far this game, I don't agree that shooting him is a good idea. If anything, shoot Rsoul. Do you think these reasons could make him have such a strong townread that he doesn't really seem to second guess it. I think all of these things are entirely possible for you to do as town. Number 1 is the best reason i find but it still shouldn't make his read so concrete. He speaks with such authority like he knows your play so well and hey maybe he does but i find it really hard to believe coming from someone who has played what? 1 game with you? Also if anything the second reason concerning the BM lynch I wouldn't really say is townie since we know it was town v town and this was posted after the MZ flip but he doesn't even take this into account in his read. I have read your obi stuff but i don't really remember it, i will definitely go back and take a look at it sometime soon like this phase though. That post described why I had been reading him as town up until that point. What solidified his town position for me and why he's currently my strongest townread, I outlined in this post: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 22:36 ruXxar wrote: On July 15 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote: eh prob that you take ages to answer any question directed at you ruxx lol >< i've generally been chalking it up to not being a native english speaker, but it could be easily construed as either avoiding the question or being too careful with your wording you've been hard-defending/hard-townreading hf all game practically? (i know you claim that you haven't, but taking up shit reasons to call me scum that basically involve "obstructing" hf is pretty much the same thing xP unless you're a supremely illogical person) like, it's nice that you're doing work and all with the flipped scum filters, but you don't seem to really be getting anywhere with them? why so cool all of a sudden on hf? too me it looks a whole lot like you're just setting up to vote him if he doesn't come back while making it easy to not lynch him if he does -_- does the martyring make you think he's less town or are you just "pissed"? How am I avoiding questions when I'm answering them? I know I take a long reason answering questions and there's a good reason for that. I don't want to say stupid stuff that's going to come back to bite me in the ass later and get me mis-lynched. What good does it serve me if I have to go back and explain all the errors I made in my statements when I can just get it right the first time? It's a waste of my time and does not help us get anywhere. I don't town-read HF any less for his martyring, but I dislike martyring strongly. In honor of the spirit of the game you should never quit and go against your win condition. I know it's easy to take the high road here, but I don't see how you can play this game and not expect to have to deal with hardships. What pisses me off especially about HF is how I KNOW that he is good at defending himself if he wants to. I was mafia with him last game, I've seen first hand what he's capable of. I was expecting more out of him, but I don't read it as scummy behavior. In fact, I think it makes him even more towny. I think that if HF was scum he would feel an obligation to his mafia team to never give up. From playing and talking with him last game that is what my gut tells me that HF would do. Just look at how he fought against the tides with the red-check on him for such a long time when people kept bringing up the same logic over and over against him. I don't see mafia HF giving up this easily. I saw how HF was struggling so hard as mafia against all odds last game, and it was a miracle that we won. I refuse to believe that HF would give up as mafia when he has an obligation to his team, and also his pride on the line as the best scum player on TL. Like, he was attack from all fronts and I even bussed him super hard and he still didn't give up. Yes my meta read is based on that one game together, but I believe strongly that HF would not give up as scum. If you show me a game where he did give up as scum then sure, my townread on him might dip a little, but that doesn't nullify the other things I'm townreading him for. why do you think he's more likely to "give up" as town than scum? like i'm not gonna lie, the way you two are treating each other this game has my hackles raised | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 04:20 GMT
#7117
On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all. ?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger ^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 04:24 GMT
#7121
and i know marv echoed it at some point was that if va is smurfing so that he can be more active/participate more without being scumread for it, shouldn't we see something other than his generic barely playing behavior this game? there was also something about his nk analysis not being applied to everyone...i'd have to look up what exactly was said, but he mentioned that the palmar kill suggested a certain subset of players while excluding some players from that subset, which is a valid point | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 04:27 GMT
#7124
On July 16 2015 13:23 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all. ?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger ^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure Yes yes ok, you're a good player. This wasn't the answer I'm looking for though it's so wishy washy and doesn't say anything about obi. I KNOW his reads based on activity mean nothing but why do you tell me what i already know instead of what it means foefor obi? I mean... You just don't seem inquisitive and it's scummy and i can't get past it. let me explain something to you i don't just sheep people. it's not in my blood. i like to review cases. i haven't had the opportunity yet. no amount of poking at me about it before i review it is going to change that if you're not seeing me be "inquisitive" you are again selectively reading. i've been questioning my scumreads based on what i noticed and i will take a look at your scumread when i am good and ready also, so that you can understand what busy means, i will not return to the thread until i've done so ^^ capice? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 04:28 GMT
#7126
On July 16 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote: Yes i made that point. Va has posted about 10,000 more posts than usual and he was outed pretty quickly. I don't see how he can change his usual thought process or playstyle from one game to the next just because his name changes. (and evidently he can't if he was outed so quickly). i actually have a townlean on va for that reason xP i also feel like he's contributed more. i still should look up that one point cause i'd forgotten about it until you jogged my memory -_- okay now really going | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:25 GMT
#7138
you've got my undivided attention (mostly) for the next hour lol and i think you're more up on the recent stuff than i am i've got you, oats and ls as my strong towns do you have any doubts on hts/clarity or can i skip over them and look at everyone else? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:35 GMT
#7144
On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate. which joke? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:37 GMT
#7150
On July 16 2015 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Nope, too much of a headache to even turn the game on. Fantastic. Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote: yo, truffle, where you at in the catch-up? you've got my undivided attention (mostly) for the next hour lol and i think you're more up on the recent stuff than i am i've got you, oats and ls as my strong towns do you have any doubts on hts/clarity or can i skip over them and look at everyone else? Skip over Hts because that's a waste of time. Look into clarity maybe but I seriously doubt it. i'm still looking for that damn post i remember on va @.@ i know it caught my eye and i'm not sure why i forgot it or who said it. you know what i'm talking about? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:38 GMT
#7152
On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:41 GMT
#7155
On July 16 2015 14:38 Holyflare wrote: I literally told you i said it. you mentioned him a grand total of seven times in 40 pages of filter -_- mostly as part of "to look at" or "possible vig target" lists -_- thanks for the wild goose chase, though. always love that | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:44 GMT
#7156
On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:48 GMT
#7159
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:49 GMT
#7160
On July 16 2015 14:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes frankly I think you are only refuting it because you do not want HF to be townread, the game is over with HF and mine mislynches. You can already see the game leaning that way as people slowly start consolidating their scum reads to me and hf out of nowhere. ^^ that's 100% it has nothing to do with anyone with a smattering of intelligence being able to read the op and construct a post like that, or the fact that seriously claiming vt is retarded anyway as a town player. nope ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:53 GMT
#7165
On July 16 2015 14:49 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + His read isn't a great read, but he does make a point.On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes The flaw is that it was a 5 man scum team, and even if Oatsmaster thinks geript is blue, and even if geript was scumreading Damdred, that still doesn't really suggest that geript is a likely night kill. I'm looking at Holyflare's case on ObiWanShinobi, and some of it makes a lot of sense, but I've never had much success reading ObiWanShinobi... And I've definitely seen ObiWanShinobi play seriously as town before, that's a horrible point. Furthermore, I am sure that ObiWanShinobi was suspicious of Holyflare at one point during Day 1 (early on, then reinforced by how Holyflare treated marvellosity early), but I don't know what he did with this read. The fact that Holyflare completely ignored it seems a bit strange though, even if the read was completely dropped for several days, I'd think that a truly unbiased Holyflare would have at least mentioned it. ebh was saying his one amazing reason to townread hf is his entry post claiming vt ^^ oats trying to use that actually is rather towny. i don't disagree with that and it's part of why i've been townreading him from early on...lol even if i didn't think it was a good strategy nnnhhh i'm going through ows' filter now. hold that thought | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 05:58 GMT
#7167
On July 16 2015 14:52 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes frankly I think you are only refuting it because you do not want HF to be townread, the game is over with HF and mine mislynches. You can already see the game leaning that way as people slowly start consolidating their scum reads to me and hf out of nowhere. ^^ that's 100% it has nothing to do with anyone with a smattering of intelligence being able to read the op and construct a post like that, or the fact that seriously claiming vt is retarded anyway as a town player. nope ^^ why respond sarcastically to the part that isnt worth talking about? the latter is clearly happening. Are you intentionally ignoring it and ok with losing or mafia? Reminds me of himalaya where you were content to sit on your hands while the thread was stagnant because you were mafia. You aren't furthering any discussion by giving these sarcastic snide comments in every post. cause that's entirely what i'm doing ^^ 1. hf has been scumread or at least under suspicion practically all game - your point was wrong 2. i don't see a massive swing to scumread you for the "next mislynch" - your point is again, wrong so what exactly do you want me to respond to? you're just distracting me by whining and trying to deflect off an objectively weak townread, especially considering we're talking about hf and not some scrub | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:01 GMT
#7168
On July 16 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I didn't read the game.On July 16 2015 14:48 rsoultin wrote: oh, truffle, can you give me examples of bf deliberately acting dumb in his scum game while i look into ows for kicks and giggles? or at least remind me which game it was lol >< It was his first game ever (I'd hope you could guess that..), that newbie mafia that cakepie hosted. Here you go. All I know is what people said about it. It was referenced several times in Student Mafia 11. And I can't 100% trust you, so I need to look at ObiWanShinobi for myself. You can look at boxerfred's filter yourself if you really want to. I'm not saying that it makes him scum, I'm just saying that townreading him for not knowing the number of scum left is really, really stupid. I don't see how to tell if he was being genuine or not. lol i didn't even get through the first page before i caught your drift...thanks for pulling that up | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:09 GMT
#7174
On July 16 2015 15:03 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:41 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 14:38 Holyflare wrote: I literally told you i said it. you mentioned him a grand total of seven times in 40 pages of filter -_- mostly as part of "to look at" or "possible vig target" lists -_- thanks for the wild goose chase, though. always love that Show nested quote + VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues. Also VA keeps complaining about things that just aren't true anymore, i didn't shit fight with rsoultin but he returns to say that we were and afk's, his nk stuff that he does as town was far too focused on one player when i think he's usually much more logical. He's pretty off base. Your ctrl f skills are poor. eh yeah i left off the va ctrl+f cause that turned up every little thing this still isn't want i'm talking about at all though @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:22 GMT
#7177
what exactly is different between town!ows omgusing and scum!ows? like i think i even remember the newbie he's talking about because if i'm recalling it correctly, it was the one i was coaching the scum team in lol >< even if it wasn't, you did say that obi omgus' in that one; i remember that distinctly | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:28 GMT
#7181
On July 16 2015 15:24 Holyflare wrote: Like I've repeated for the 5th time. Omgus is not part of the obi case. The newer obi post i made is great too since it's a giant collection of proof. it was. you said there was a difference between how he does it as town and scum. i'm not seeing things, hf -_- it's a giant collection of posts with your name in them xP i just did it myself. yay ctrl+f i expect the upper one to look similar when/if i ctrl+f clarity's name you don't like that he was looking for another lynch given his omgus, and you don't like that he's not scumreading clarity for his read on you your mountain of proof in a nutshell that second looks more like he's trying to get his point across and i'm not sure why you assume he should be scumreading clarity for it? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:33 GMT
#7184
On July 16 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote: WaveofShadow posting in random discussion thread in TL Mafia but not caring while Holyflare is lynched. What about all of the people scumreading me for doing nothing after a game as scum, which happened to be the same last game that WaveofShadow played..... Lazy or no, I just can't imagine town!WaveofShadow being THIS disinterested while Holyflare is up for lynch? Or is this within his play? no earthly clue -_- i know for a fact he takes way more pride in his scum game than his town game (we had the conversation months ago playing league) which was why i was willing to accept people's meta-read on him i don't know that this means he's incapable of burning out, though? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:34 GMT
#7185
On July 16 2015 15:31 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote: Okay, yeah, ObiWanShinobi does seem to talk about a bunch of different reads at different times, and doesn't really flow smoothly between them. I'll check some meta, but if someone can show that this strongly indicates that ObiWanShinobi is scum, that would be good to know. Because while it is scummy, I don't find it convincing enough by itself. He said it was scummy that i called out marv which I've definitely done before. He got schooled by someone for thinking it. He dropped it and every new mention of me and rsoultin is towny or it meant nothing. No scum reads at all. It doesn't need to be mentioned if he doesn't mention me as mafia past the first post he made d1 and then never again, it means his read didn't exist. didn't he start calling you mafia after you started pushing him? isn't that the definition of omgus? am i getting something wrong, because that's what it looked like to me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:46 GMT
#7195
i don't really see how he can go from - clarity is giving him too easy townreads to - should look more into him to - doubt you need to look into clarity, rsoul ^ obi, can you explain where you're at with clarity and how it fits into that progression? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:48 GMT
#7197
On July 16 2015 15:42 Breshke wrote: like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit. Rsoul how behind in the game are you? i'm not? i'm behind in the work i usually put into a game that y'all never see much of, just the results from lol >< should have been in bed half an hour ago right now my main concern is seeing if hf's case on obi has any validity | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:52 GMT
#7201
On July 16 2015 15:45 Holyflare wrote: We should totally just no lynch twice for the infos and extra night we get eh, i may actually be fine with a no lynch this phase, but 4 more dead townies is going to gut this town more than it already is | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:53 GMT
#7203
On July 16 2015 15:53 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, I meant to read that one game where Holyflare got mislynched... What happened in that game? How similar was it to this? lol not at all, in all honesty he voted for marv and marv threw a fit xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:55 GMT
#7206
i think hf was busy though and wasn't there during the brief window the lynch swung toward him? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 06:59 GMT
#7210
On July 16 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote: actually yeah, he's waffled all over the place on the clarity read, especially this phase. that's honestly probably the only thing apart from looking for another lynch when you were afk that actually holds any water, frankly i don't really see how he can go from - clarity is giving him too easy townreads to - should look more into him to - doubt you need to look into clarity, rsoul ^ obi, can you explain where you're at with clarity and how it fits into that progression? i need sleep. please answer this, obi meh...i'm not entirely comfortable with clarity's disappearing act earlier, either. it seemed incongruous with the situation, more so than wanting to policy lynch hf for throwing a fit and saying he wouldn't post anymore, frankly | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 07:00 GMT
#7211
On July 16 2015 15:56 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 15:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 16 2015 15:42 Breshke wrote: like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit. Rsoul how behind in the game are you? i'm not? i'm behind in the work i usually put into a game that y'all never see much of, just the results from lol >< should have been in bed half an hour ago right now my main concern is seeing if hf's case on obi has any validity Ahh okay it is just weird for you not to have a read on me. Also yeah HF wasn't around when we misslynched him lol i have an outdated read on you and you really fell off the last several phases that i recall...mostly i just want to look into what everyone's saying and i won't have time before the lynch, so i'm prioritizing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 07:05 GMT
#7214
ruxx disappeared when you gave him that out, hf...i'd appreciate it if you didn't obstruct my questions even if you don't understand their purpose | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 07:09 GMT
#7219
On July 16 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote: Here's a really stupid meta to read Holyflare. As town, he plays the game seriously right away. As scum, he doesn't. Is there any merit to this at all? nope. he did that game within a game thing in the one we both got n1'd...the damdy/gb/rit scumteam | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 07:10 GMT
#7221
On July 16 2015 16:07 Holyflare wrote: What out did i give him? You asked him a crap question with the answer already in the post i would appreciate it if you didn't get in my way the main point is he disappeared ^^ so clearly you did. i guarantee it was more useful than "you're scum and i'll never change my mind" /out | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 12:36 GMT
#7228
i've liked ows through most of the game every time you come into the thread, hf, the atmosphere goes to shit, simple as that i still want ows to address his clarity read, ftr | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:17 GMT
#7235
On July 16 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote: eh, i'm going with my gut i've liked ows through most of the game every time you come into the thread, hf, the atmosphere goes to shit, simple as that i still want ows to address his clarity read, ftr ^ it speaks for itself, imo - trfel push: nothing you do will make you change my mind...oh i was questioning him! - fighting with conf town - hyperbolic, out-of-context or blatant misrepresentation in his cases - if you don't agree you're mafia! - opportunistic pushes (d1 push on me during stated afk time) - shifting reads to whatever most benefits him: oh i was lying o.0, i never stopped scumreading you - prediction that both me and he would be in lylo, and setting up the mislynch <- paranoia, i know, but the wording was way too certain - continuing to ignore what anyone says about ruxx - "martyring" over ls voting him in pure bipolar fashion like i could go on but most simply, hf comes in thread, thread goes to shit. it's classic scum hf play | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:27 GMT
#7239
On July 16 2015 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 22:17 rsoultin wrote: like i could go on but most simply, hf comes in thread, thread goes to shit. it's classic scum hf play Really? Quote other games where he has played like this. himalayas, the game i just came out of, he attacked both fidei and myself when we were basically confirmed - on his heels cause of a red check and just shitting up the thread ippo - attacked me over wording in my posts; i was off-kilter most of the game carol - shitfighting with gb constantly (i don't actually remember linux and if he did it there, too, but yeah) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:30 GMT
#7242
anyway, i'm out. class | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:48 GMT
#7255
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:50 GMT
#7258
On July 16 2015 22:48 rsoultin wrote: Yeah shitfighting and shitting up the thread every time you set foot in it are entirely different things hf ^^ you forget I was hard townreading you the game palmar shot you and not in these others, excluding carol. I know the difference, even if I can't quite articulate it Corrected :/ hate phones | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:53 GMT
#7261
On July 16 2015 22:50 Holyflare wrote: Yeh that one game. What about the others you conveniently ignore? Like the one where the entire town spite voted me for shitting up the thread in aperture or the one where i actually did yell at absolutely everyone about dp? Good selective reasoning! Was also on the same page with you in aperture lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 13:55 GMT
#7263
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 14:00 GMT
#7268
I have doubts cause this See she said it wasn't scummy! lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 14:15 GMT
#7274
On July 16 2015 23:03 Breshke wrote: Rsoul I think it is unfair to say HF has been shitting up the thread since he came back from his most recent matry i agree he has been fairly resonable like at least towards me the way he dissasembled my attempt at POE was rather useful and he was the only person to actually like interact with me about that. Im not saying it makes him town because he would probably do that as mafia aswell because i dont see how he would think coming back to the thread and shitting it up would help him if he was mafia at this stage. Also HF i really think rsoul is town like i know it was ages ago but i really feel like that read I gave on her was legit and the like one thing this game i feel really confident about other than HTS being town. It is really strange obi just left like that IDK i get if he is town where the frustration comes from but i don't get why it was so intense so fast. urghh i don't even know if i want to lynch clarity there is seriously like noone i have strong feelings about lynching cant we just kill wos he will probs get modkilled anyway Yeah he was working with me too until I disagreed with him on obi and then suddenly i'm mafia and not doing anything all game and oh he never /really/ stopped scumreading me. It was all a lie! he disrupted what I was trying to do with ruxx and continues to ignore him entirely, and in gen i'd stated last night was when I wanted to look into everything and that's when he decides to start accusing me of doing nothing...which he knows will piss me off Too coincidental for me, bresh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 14:16 GMT
#7276
On July 16 2015 23:14 boxerfred wrote: I dont like claritys repeated "take it or leave " it and i like how hf is defending and i dont like rsoulstin subtly provocative towards hf. It's not subtly provocative. He's scum. Lynch him ^^ or prove how he's not. Regardless, i'm out of time this morning | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 14:19 GMT
#7278
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 14:20 GMT
#7279
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:44 GMT
#7561
catch me up we're lynching hf but from this page clearly y'all have some reason to doubt it, so what's going on? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:51 GMT
#7563
well i'm not lynching you over him, even if i believed that made him town, so...?? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:54 GMT
#7566
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:54 GMT
#7567
On July 17 2015 06:54 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote: okay i'm behind catch me up we're lynching hf but from this page clearly y'all have some reason to doubt it, so what's going on? People got shaky on the lynch. Some people wanted to lynch me instead. HF said no. People stayed on HF. lol if hf is town people were stupid ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:56 GMT
#7572
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 21:57 GMT
#7576
On July 17 2015 06:57 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote: well i was more asking if any other names are being floated, cause i've only read this last page and i don't even know what posting you're referring to? The big long one with all his scum reads. It's quite compelling. He also probably could have switched to me with like the obi ebh vivas and Ruxxar crew but he was all like no breshke is town. It doesn't matter lynch is set I'll probs swap to HF if I make it to the voting thread just cos majority eh, i'll have to find it. hopefully he flips mafia and then i can ignore it as wifom \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:03 GMT
#7582
blah now what was this magic post, bresh? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:08 GMT
#7594
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:10 GMT
#7596
On July 17 2015 04:29 Holyflare wrote: 4) Clarity_nl (filter) 5) ruXxar (filter) 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) 21) rsoultin (filter) 22) Half The Sky (filter) don't lynch wave probably believe in geript too, don't lynch vivax probably (got towny vibes throughout the game, marv echoes sentiments quiz him on inconsistent shit on day 1), bf is also a bad lynch for actually aligning with my thoughts today and on day 1, ls is playing standardly bad so ignore every word he writes, trfel is probably town for DMA and day 1 whine + inquisitive posts (wouldn't surprise me if he's mafia don't really care anymore so just call him town), never lynch breshke ever, oats towny for what i said earlier and his posts are good throughout the game he's just being awful today, EBH/VA is playing exactly like typical va so ignore obi's thoughts on his play being mafia orientated when it's just VA, he's been pretty involved and thinking about things personally wouldn't lynch for seeing similar things to what i see but whatever not gonna care if you lynch him because half of you are incapable of playing anyway leaves the team being a variant of the above left names:, for HtS read all of my day 1 and actually listen to BF because he knows what i'm talking about how she just doesn't care what's going on and posts nonsense a lot and just comments on things: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 03:57 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=308#6143 People should read this post from aperture where i tried to solve the game and town side hardcore and hts posted all the same things she posted here (read her filter in aperture) so knows absolutely nothing she says makes me mafia at all. It's literally the same phrasing too "opportunistic" bla bla. Don't count her out from being mafia at all. ^ read that too and realise how similar her arguments are but the difference is here she for some reason says everything i did in that same game makes me mafia Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote: as an addendum I really am going to martyr now because you can all sheep me as your punishment for being shit and mislynching me: lynch rsoultin for being "angry" at me saying she's done nothing and in her angry post says that she's done nothing, she's had 1 scum read since day 1 on ruxxar and magically her scum read on me returns for the shittest reasons even though they always existed but she town read me past that anyway lynch clarity for being a massive hypocrite and saying that i'm mafia for doing the least mafia like play ever and then scum reading me despite hard defending and town reading me all game even though he likes all the points i brought up on himself and obi lynch obi for not being able to answer a straightforward question such as what his scum reads were before va and me, his scum read on va was a spite vote which somehow became a 100% mafia with hf vote and he refuses to explain why even though that's what he scum reads va for (even though he scum reads va for playing like va) and also his clarity read completely disappearing entirely even thoug everything he posted towards clarity looked like it should be saying clarity is mafia, his list of town reads were all "activity" even though he was told activity is not a good metric for any of them - rsoul decided to comment on this point only at the start saying yes activity is not good but never made a read on obi, remember that i still dunno about ruxxar - probably biased because he's town reading me for very logical points, probably ends up mafia but i don't care because his points are the only objective ones lol realise that when i flip town every single thing i have said this game has been honest and straightforward and then realise how shit rsoultin looks, then look at clarity for his play today and rescinding his hardest town read ever for no reason whatsoever, ruxxar is probably mafia for his hard defence of me but that's your choice, all his points have been super accurate and you should all feel bad for not even listening to mafia repeatedly. If you EVER let clarity say any variant of "oh it was just a policy it's hf's fault" lynch the flying fuck out of him because let it be known for the record that today he SCUM read me. SCUM READ OK. Make obi answer my cocking questions which should be the most straightforward shit in existence. Anyway, gg, you're all bad for thinking that I can pump out 45 pages straight after himalayas with no downtime if i was mafia again. assuming this is what you were talking about, bresh? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:11 GMT
#7599
On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol >< M8 you are one of them. Hence why the phase is going to be shit. yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:15 GMT
#7605
On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote: On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol >< M8 you are one of them. Hence why the phase is going to be shit. yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though What a huge BS post. how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:19 GMT
#7609
On July 17 2015 07:17 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote: On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote: On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol >< M8 you are one of them. Hence why the phase is going to be shit. yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though What a huge BS post. how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin Ehhhhhhh Wpuld you be saying Ruxxar looked any better if he had flipped mafia though ehh, i might doubt it more in all honesty, i dunnae. he's looked pretty bad independently of being up hf's butt all game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:21 GMT
#7613
On July 17 2015 07:19 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote: On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote: On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol >< M8 you are one of them. Hence why the phase is going to be shit. yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though What a huge BS post. how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin Well tbh I can see you getting lynched since we agreed on sheeping HF, didn't we? Also ruxx looks bad for the hard defend of what? I don't know what you refer to. This is not an aggressive question. the only people with an excuse to be super sure of hf's alignment are like people who don't know what his scumgame looks like? essentially. ruxx doesn't fall in that category | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:23 GMT
#7616
On July 17 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote: On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote: On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol >< M8 you are one of them. Hence why the phase is going to be shit. yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though What a huge BS post. how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin I had a strong townread that I've explained several times? It's not the first time I take a hard stance on defending someone. You were my coach in the newbie game where I hard defended a scum so much that I said I was 100% willing to get lynched next day if I was wrong. maybe? i didn't read that game your explanation is basically frills and whistles -shrugs- feels and generic comments with little in the way of actual evidence to back it up you basically said he looked town because he looked town | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 22:35 GMT
#7623
i'll probably read them again before the night cycle is over | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 23:06 GMT
#7627
On July 17 2015 07:59 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: im literally going to park my vote on rsoultin and afk for the next cycle and i dont care if i get lynched for it, thats my new plan. Wouldn't even be surprised if mafia doesnt NK LS since he is so deep in her pocket its hilarious. He would probably throw a game to let her win if there are actual reasons people are scumreading me beyond some weird "hf vs. rsoul" thing, i'm more than willing to address any questions? otherwise i'm just going to assume people without reasons are trying for a 2 for 1 on the heels of hf's newfound town cred | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 16 2015 23:16 GMT
#7633
On July 17 2015 08:12 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: you have no one to blame but yourself. you refused to listen to any other possibility the entire cycle and just keep saying HF is scum and guess what he isn't you shit all over this game now time to lie in it. Good bye. the very definition of a non-reason | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 11:59 GMT
#7640
10:3, which means with the kills tonight unless miraculously we have any blues who didn't decide to out in the first two days 8:3 - tomorrow 7:3 - ml 5:3 - triple mylo/lylo so literally absolutely everyone in this game who is using hf as an excuse to do another auto lynch is either scum or horrible and when you lose this game after i flip town you have only yourselves to blame for thinking there's any validity to something as illogical as hf and rsoul can't possibly fight/misread each other as town on that note...oats, you've called me scum all game? isn't this your chance? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 12:06 GMT
#7642
On July 17 2015 21:03 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 20:59 rsoultin wrote: okay, so we're at 10:3, which means with the kills tonight unless miraculously we have any blues who didn't decide to out in the first two days 8:3 - tomorrow 7:3 - ml 5:3 - triple mylo/lylo so literally absolutely everyone in this game who is using hf as an excuse to do another auto lynch is either scum or horrible and when you lose this game after i flip town you have only yourselves to blame for thinking there's any validity to something as illogical as hf and rsoul can't possibly fight/misread each other as town on that note...oats, you've called me scum all game? isn't this your chance? xP What about HF's other reads? ruxx and clarity seem the most likely scum of those to me? i need to look through hts' most recent scumgame, but unless it's improved a lot since last i saw it i'm still inclined to call her town lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 12:09 GMT
#7643
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 12:56 GMT
#7645
in all honesty I thought about doing a ton of work and staying up till 3 last night but then I realized that like the only way scum kills me tonight is if ruxx is scum and maybe not even then I then thought maybe I could get reads off ppl just willing to blindly follow hf off for the easy mislynch but frankly I doubt a v a/bresh/viva scumteam | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 14:25 GMT
#7653
On July 17 2015 23:03 Clarity_nl wrote: I expect HtS to die tonight rsoultin so I wouldn't worry much about her atm, if she lives maybe look into her. I think EBH(VA)/vivax are town. I still think boxerfred is town for his dumbtell and his stuff prior to it (although I hated his d4). Oats still town too. I'm willing to sheep geript regarding WoS, although how he hasn't been modkilled is beyond me. Nearly everybody seems to be okay with a ruxxar lynch which seems weird. Hey rsoultin it seems you did a lot of swearing in carnaval, not so much in this game, is that because of BH or? + Show Spoiler [irrelevant stuff] + inb4 postgame where everyone tells me that despite HF being town, I was reading him town for the wrong reasons all game, while at the same time telling me I should not have lynched him for martyring. If you're about to say you think i'm town because i'm not swearing as much that's main lol >< it's situational and I can't neither confirm not sent a also on the wrist for saying a certain vitriolic player was turning into a gremlin every time I disagreed with him xP which btw is prob why he changed his tone at around that time as well assuming the thing I came neither confirm nor deny actually happened ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 14:26 GMT
#7654
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 14:29 GMT
#7656
On July 17 2015 23:25 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote: VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia. how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence? breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read But are you looking into the why? Offhand I believe he had a the on HF and that would fall in line with not wanting to autolynch HF or vote him and find another lynch instead. He's has been scumreadinv ruXxar for awhile. And I know he is not a player that has a lot of thread pull. he wasn't really though? and like all of those little sidewagons we're just noise without consolidation. At a skin va prob looks best for actually /trying/ to get ppl to switch rather than just looking sideways at the hf lynch and parking his vote off-wagon | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:32 GMT
#7675
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far. Confident town reads Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here. On July 14 2015 07:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Shooting HF would be the best thing to ever happen to this game. 1. maybe he's mafia 2. him and rsoultin cant spam the thread anymore and make me ragequit this game for good 3. has good reads if he's town and it would confirm him dont see any better shots at this point. you have to gamble to win games like this. On July 15 2015 01:59 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote: On July 15 2015 01:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I apologize that I'm being scumread by the majority of people, I've been pretty upfront with my thought process and reads. Oh well. If you aren't mafia then you gotta point where people's town reads are wrong. my updated reads list is tier 1 mafia - Kelsier, OWS Tier 2 - tier 3 - Scott, one of rsoultin/HF, Breshke If we are to assume people are starting to pretty much mass jumble the low page filters together, it was only after I saw scott's name being thrown around that my name was subsequently brought up as a replacement. He has quickly been brought into my scum list due to this. Rest ive already talked about, backed off breshke but havent interacted with him since so its pretty old sitting there I expect kelsier to flip mafia On July 16 2015 04:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: this lynch on hf is 50/50 he could be either alignment easily.i have no idea on this one On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate. ^^^^^ va's convenient read-change on hf...you forgot? i'll grant that it's possible, but if it is SO GOOD that you're going to hard townread hf over all your reservations precisely when hf is up for lynch, i have a very hard time understanding how you forgot it in the first place not to mention that read is pretty bogus anyway. like lol >< there is really only one good town reason to make the "joke" first post, and that is essentially if you didn't read the OP at all, and frankly even so hf knows that most hosts will post a copy of the vt pm and other pms in the scum qts of games like this...i think he was even one of the people who informed me of that last time in assassination? you think it's natural for vt to seriously claim vt first post? granted, i'm no psyche dude or whatever, but i can tell you for a fact that i am ten times more likely to do it as scum than as town, because in the first case it buys town cred without risking anything, and in the second case it just helps scum poe blues if you're town and this is how you really think and your jimmies are just rustled that i don't think your read is worth anything because i don't expect the majority of people in this game to be too stupid to read an op and go 'oh look, vt is called investigator, i can make a post alluding to that for free town cred!', tough i'd ask you how you forgot your most confident townread based on that flimsy post for several cycles, but frankly there's no response to it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:39 GMT
#7680
On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote: You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're right there is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:48 GMT
#7687
i don't get how that means anything more than damdy casing you, clarity? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:53 GMT
#7692
On July 18 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote: You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're right there is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself? Hehehehe lol yeah. your whole read is predicated on that damdred's questioning of clarity's early posts match kelsier's ergo clarity is scum ignore the case on clarity later that doesn't fit in your pattern finding so let's not even mention it ergo all scum members must be treating clarity the same because clarity is scum ergo rsoul who also questioned clarity for that weird posting but didn't push him...is scum and you can't see how that logic falls apart at all? i think you need to read that thread that just went up xP you're sounding like gonzaw | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:56 GMT
#7700
On July 18 2015 03:54 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote: On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote: You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're right there is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself? Hehehehe lol yeah. your whole read is predicated on that damdred's questioning of clarity's early posts match kelsier's ergo clarity is scum ignore the case on clarity later that doesn't fit in your pattern finding so let's not even mention it ergo all scum members must be treating clarity the same because clarity is scum ergo rsoul who also questioned clarity for that weird posting but didn't push him...is scum and you can't see how that logic falls apart at all? i think you need to read that thread that just went up xP you're sounding like gonzaw But the case on clarity fits the pattern, cause before and after Damdred doesn't wanna lynch him. ?? how many people did damdred really want to lynch? you're completely disregarding the fact that this is a majority lynch game, and any player, town or scum, is going to have to try to consolidate on just one or two targets. i'm not saying i don't get where you're coming up with this, but it's just a fundamentally flawed way to find scum. none of this makes clarity mafia? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 18:59 GMT
#7701
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:04 GMT
#7706
On July 18 2015 04:02 Vivax wrote: Like, you literally just defended a flipped mafia post death in your argumentation. ?? much as it just gives me the tingles every time people call ruxx out, i think it's pretty obvious that wasn't what he was saying here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:04 GMT
#7707
On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol >< On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol >< On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol >< On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol >< On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:05 GMT
#7709
On July 18 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far. Confident town reads Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here. Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 07:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Shooting HF would be the best thing to ever happen to this game. 1. maybe he's mafia 2. him and rsoultin cant spam the thread anymore and make me ragequit this game for good 3. has good reads if he's town and it would confirm him dont see any better shots at this point. you have to gamble to win games like this. Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 01:59 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 15 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote: On July 15 2015 01:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I apologize that I'm being scumread by the majority of people, I've been pretty upfront with my thought process and reads. Oh well. If you aren't mafia then you gotta point where people's town reads are wrong. my updated reads list is tier 1 mafia - Kelsier, OWS Tier 2 - tier 3 - Scott, one of rsoultin/HF, Breshke If we are to assume people are starting to pretty much mass jumble the low page filters together, it was only after I saw scott's name being thrown around that my name was subsequently brought up as a replacement. He has quickly been brought into my scum list due to this. Rest ive already talked about, backed off breshke but havent interacted with him since so its pretty old sitting there I expect kelsier to flip mafia Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 04:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: this lynch on hf is 50/50 he could be either alignment easily.i have no idea on this one Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate. ^^^^^ va's convenient read-change on hf...you forgot? i'll grant that it's possible, but if it is SO GOOD that you're going to hard townread hf over all your reservations precisely when hf is up for lynch, i have a very hard time understanding how you forgot it in the first place not to mention that read is pretty bogus anyway. like lol >< there is really only one good town reason to make the "joke" first post, and that is essentially if you didn't read the OP at all, and frankly even so hf knows that most hosts will post a copy of the vt pm and other pms in the scum qts of games like this...i think he was even one of the people who informed me of that last time in assassination? you think it's natural for vt to seriously claim vt first post? granted, i'm no psyche dude or whatever, but i can tell you for a fact that i am ten times more likely to do it as scum than as town, because in the first case it buys town cred without risking anything, and in the second case it just helps scum poe blues if you're town and this is how you really think and your jimmies are just rustled that i don't think your read is worth anything because i don't expect the majority of people in this game to be too stupid to read an op and go 'oh look, vt is called investigator, i can make a post alluding to that for free town cred!', tough i'd ask you how you forgot your most confident townread based on that flimsy post for several cycles, but frankly there's no response to it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:13 GMT
#7712
meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood let me break it down for the particularly slow here today - va has hf as top townread for joke!post - va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way) - va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot - va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched - va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:16 GMT
#7716
On July 18 2015 04:13 Vivax wrote: Also nice to see how rso was your scumread all along and now you're both holding hands and singing kumbaya. ruxx is still mafia stupid is still stupid ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:17 GMT
#7717
On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote: -_- meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood let me break it down for the particularly slow here today - va has hf as top townread for joke!post - va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way) - va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot - va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched - va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:27 GMT
#7723
On July 18 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote: -_- meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood let me break it down for the particularly slow here today - va has hf as top townread for joke!post - va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way) - va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot - va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched - va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why To be fair I've read HF's first post as likely from town from the start, it just got overshadowed by other stuff, so I get where he's coming from with that. It's not really an argument that should be used on d4 though, but why does being dumb on HF make him scum? If anything if EBH was scum he'd just jump on the wagon at some point. I wasn't sure on HF either while he was getting lynched. It was a combination of annoyance, doubt and no real counterwagon that kept me on him (HF didn't wanna switch to ruxx). i'm talking about completely forgetting your top townread clarity ^^ the read is still horribad but that's not the main point | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:28 GMT
#7726
On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote: Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF. It just seems very unlikely. I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people: Rsoultin HTS Obiwanshinobi Trfel Clarity I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it. LS is gunsmith so there's that. It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone. I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here. Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. lol i'd like to know why, too though why he thinks i'm scum is easy xP xP xP xP xP xP didn't answer a question clearly enough fought with hf blah blah defended trfel blah blah zzzzz it hasn't changed since d1 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:31 GMT
#7729
On July 18 2015 04:29 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote: -_- meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood let me break it down for the particularly slow here today - va has hf as top townread for joke!post - va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way) - va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot - va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched - va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why To be fair I've read HF's first post as likely from town from the start, it just got overshadowed by other stuff, so I get where he's coming from with that. It's not really an argument that should be used on d4 though, but why does being dumb on HF make him scum? If anything if EBH was scum he'd just jump on the wagon at some point. I wasn't sure on HF either while he was getting lynched. It was a combination of annoyance, doubt and no real counterwagon that kept me on him (HF didn't wanna switch to ruxx). i'm talking about completely forgetting your top townread clarity ^^ the read is still horribad but that's not the main point I'm not familiar with EBH/VA whatever but seems to me he's a bit all over the place in general. I mean the guy blue hunted in his opening post on day1, you expect him to remember his reads as either alignment? Not a great defense I admit but I think his stuff is somewhat townie and I'm willing to sheep all the dead town who said the same. i have no issue with people changing reads? i do have an issue with hf top town! for this post shoot hf he could be scum oh wait, hf still town for this post! that's some extreme form of early onset alzheimers if he really forgot it as town, imo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 19:32 GMT
#7732
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#7755
it's va lol >< pssssst viva, don't look now but you're scumreading like over half the game xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#7757
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:35 GMT
#7758
On July 18 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote: ?? it's va lol >< pssssst viva, don't look now but you're scumreading like over half the game xP It's only like a quarter with the conditional I attached oh, right, right, my bad lol >< eh i think your logic is still kinda flawed here, thinking the entire scumteam behaves the same way in any given game, so i just lumped us all together in a pretty package labeled "vivax's scumreads" | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:43 GMT
#7767
On July 18 2015 06:37 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 06:33 rsoultin wrote: so why is everyone ignoring bf? i mean, i know that i'm ignoring him because my tolerance for dumb is pretty low and i'd rather not get myself modkilled -_- but everyone seems to be townreading him? why? because I'm town as fuck and you're not maybe? while my efforts might've been not the greatest in terms of quality, I actually made efforts and did jump off the HF train (with a correct read btw. not so dumb now, huh?) you got my vote, rsoul. \o/ rsoul for mayor! | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:44 GMT
#7768
On July 18 2015 06:37 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 06:33 rsoultin wrote: so why is everyone ignoring bf? i mean, i know that i'm ignoring him because my tolerance for dumb is pretty low and i'd rather not get myself modkilled -_- but everyone seems to be townreading him? why? Basically he had the dumbtell of not knowing how many scum are in the game, but I am starting to doubt because I literally disagree with everything that he's posting. eh trfel said he did it in his scum game...not specifically the scum, but i did check it out and yeah...playing that doesn't know what the hell is going on card pretty hard i was more curious about everyone else, though...i already knew your reason from when we discussed it earlier xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:52 GMT
#7772
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 21:55 GMT
#7775
On July 18 2015 06:52 rsoultin wrote: being right doesn't make anyone town any more than being wrong makes anyone scum -_- like this whole argument between you two right now is pointless? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 22:47 GMT
#7793
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 22:53 GMT
#7795
And if everyone is just going to lynched for no reason at all i'm not sure why I should bother? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 23:16 GMT
#7796
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 23:19 GMT
#7798
you're already assuming one of your scumreads is wrong, bf? lol like the only reason i can find for you voting me is because i called you dumb xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 23:31 GMT
#7801
On July 18 2015 08:27 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote: ... you're already assuming one of your scumreads is wrong, bf? lol like the only reason i can find for you voting me is because i called you dumb xP saying 80% sure that hts is scum is not a hundred percent. so it can happen that there's lylo. also if you'd be reading you'd know that I'm sheeping marv. also your night posts were plain stupid, not helpful at all, as your posts this day are. shh now, won't change my vote. the fact that rsoultin and me are still alive tells me two things anyways: a) rsoultin is scum b) scum wants to keep me alive since either they think I'll push rsoul and rsoul is town or they think they can turn town against me. not sure what it is however im totally willing to lynch rsoul and then blame HF for bad reads. ^ this is horrible reasoning? like seriously, if you want to scumread me for your own reasons, and the bolded is completely untrue; you just picked out posts that were completely nai? then whatever but just sheeping someone is such a cop-out and it makes me think you're scum -_- like you literally have no reason whatsoever to scumread me other than i said it's stupid to blindly follow hf's reads without evaluating them? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 23:32 GMT
#7802
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 17 2015 23:37 GMT
#7803
talk to me about ruxxar, who has been hard-defending hf all game when much better players more familiar with hf thought he was scum | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 03:40 GMT
#7806
if anyone wants to actually discuss reads instead of autoing like idiots, let me know ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 04:39 GMT
#7808
On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 04:58 GMT
#7809
like, i really don't like how little everyone seems to care this game, not gonna lie | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 12:40 GMT
#7814
On July 18 2015 17:03 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 sorru i was at work and my break finished i do care about this game no matter how many times people say i dont. Yeah but the switch basically makes the reason you are pushing him null. He obviously showed he wasnt that sure about HF's allighnment so he was worried HF was scum and mafia would switch off him to force a no lynch. Yeah it doesnt make sense when you think about it deeper because then scum basically outs itself but i had the same thought as him sounless you want to say im scum for it aswell ruxxar isnt scum for that reason. the preachy posts are shit i agree but why does that make him mafia? I agree scum would capitalize on that but by the same token wouldnt they capatalize on a HF lynch and not be so iffy about it. Maybe ruxxar has a really good read on HF or maybe it is fuckin shit and he got lucky that time but him being right about HF's allighnment doesn't make him scum. Like i like this line of reasoning before but now HF has flipped it just doesnt feel right to me anymore. i don't recall those sort of posts in his town game. i will check. i do remember those sort of posts scattered all over his scum game, and it was that deluge of posts to post and some very unnatural way of saying things that would have keyed someone in to him being scum last game had they not been convinced enough by my pointing out he'd already claimed it, essentially xP but i'll look back through his town filter just to be sure i'm not misremembering as for the doubting hf is town thing...he never expressed any doubt like literally the entire game until then? then suddenly finds a reason when everyone is waffling to jump on the wagon? like, if you look at his filter and ctrl f hf, he mentions who is scum based off hf's flip as either alignment, but never actually appears to think hf is scum it looks more to me like an excuse to make sure the lynch goes through than some last second doubts after a game-long townread...like literally if he thinks the guy is town he should want people to switch off to a no-lynch? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 12:48 GMT
#7815
On July 18 2015 20:30 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 I adequately explained my reason for switching to HF last minute. Show nested quote + On July 17 2015 06:55 ruXxar wrote: In case I am wrong on HF and there's mafia on him that's going to do some last minute shenanigans I'm going to switch to HF to ensure we don't get a no-lynch. Not sure how you managed to misinterpret that simple statement. Not knowing what to do with myself? My primary goal has always been to ensure that we don't have a no-lynch. We can't win as town if we don't lynch mafia. The reason I switched off HF is pretty easy to understand as well: If mafia switch off, then we know who the mafia are. Ergo, we are ensured to get mafia next day. I'm flailing around? No I'm pretty sure of what I want to do. This is all pretty simple in my head. There are almost certainly mafia in the HF vote and nothing is going to convince me otherwise. You are the scummiest person on that list. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Kelsier or damdred. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Trfel, Clarity, HTS, Obi or WoS. This day is pretty straight forward to me. ##Vote rsoultin. okay. i'll bite did you ever, at any point, doubt hf was town before then? quote it ^^ why did you suddenly think he was more likely to be scum than town? cause, hun, i know you're smart enough to realize that doubting townies can switch off for a no-lynch just as easily as scum can save a scum partner, so for any of that to make sense you had to think hf was more likely to flip scum than town or be super illogical as a human being explain why he was scum to you just as everyone else was beginning to think he was town and while you're at it, why am i the "scummiest" person on that list? and nothing "preventing" me from being scum with someone is not the same as things actually suggesting that i am scum with someone, unless you think every single other player in this game has a reason preventing them from being scum with kelsier and damdy xP like who are my two scummates? and why was your call to arms while defending hf for the umpteenth time, but he's townier than rsoul! therefore he must be town and she is scum! what is this either/or bs argument you've got going down? what makes our fight impossible to come from two townies? cause, newsflash, it did, so obviously it's not impossible but you already know that, don't you? ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#7816
@bresh disregard the preachy bit. i didn't even get through the first page of his 21 page filter in his first game it's nai lol the guy just likes to preach apparently -_- bad coach is bad for not reading the game she's coaching lol >> he still needs to answer my questions i guess you guys won't be able to understand this, cause i have more info than y'all do, but from my perspective unless ruxx somehow thinks he has a god read on hf after playing one scum game with him, siding with hf right out the gate made no earthly sense. him scumreading me for defending trfel at all after i literally told hf to shut up last game when he was misrepresenting gb, based off a toneread no one else in the thread even understood, and prevented our cop from getting lynched d1...not to mention my senseless (to outsiders) toneread on damdy, makes no sense even if he wants to insist that i was defending trfel even though i wasn't until i thought hf might be town and was trying to convince him to trust my toneread over trfel's kinda shitty play (lol >< yeah i know, i do futile things a lot), scumreading me for that still makes no sense after literally the only game ruxx has played with me on this site where i've done that as town we're not talking about an insignificant detail here, that can easily be overlooked? we're talking about how i play the game that is almost completely different than any other player on this site...do you understand that? i am one of the only players on this site who makes reads separate of actual play, and when they're players i'm awesome at reading, will fight tooth and nail to keep people from lynching them no matter how bad it makes me look. i did it with you in the only game i've been mislynched in on tl, bresh. i know you remember that. and i did it in himalayas, too there is no possible way unless he has the memory of a goldfish that he can honestly think i'm scum for that he is the most naive/arrogant person on the planet if he is town in this game and was that sure on hf's alignment after playing scum with him once and hf surviving 3 cycles on a red check before winning the game for scum like, from my perspective it seems pretty clear that he saw two strong town players at each other's throats and picked a side early. like what scumteam wouldn't want to lynch either hf or myself when they could, instead of having to use nks on us? and to get both of us mislynched in the same game? like this either hf is scum or rsoul is scum idea he's pushing is perfect for when one of us inevitably flips town i didn't care too much to like growl at everyone saying that early on cause i thought hf was scum >< but it's a horrible line of reasoning to begin with. it's right on that fallacies list foolishness just posted xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 13:57 GMT
#7821
On July 18 2015 22:55 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 22:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Suddenly the xP thing is on the table again despite it being KSC that pointed it out. So in your world KSC points out something that makes rsoultin scum that early when it's true? Doesn't matter who pointed it out. It doesn't invalidate the point itself. And kelsier later retracted the point instead of pushing it, when his reason for retracting it was wrong, which oats pointed out: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 06 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote: ok so i looked at the first 4 pages in each game 4 page analysis, xP count himalayas - 6 Noir - 11 hajime - 9 ass - 13 nsm - 8 carnival - 14 Gaiden 11 I think the amount over the first few pages isn't that indicative ##unvote wait wtf? she had 25 over the first 4 pages of this game. Your analysis sucks man. you can't be serious -_- answer my questions | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:02 GMT
#7823
On July 18 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote: I'd have to check but you haven't used the xP thing since it's been brough up, until right now. If it made her scum then, why wait to bring it up until now? Your case just looks like you found everything in her filter that looked remotely scummy and just pointed at it and when: Look how scummy this is! he has actually used the xP thing since then he keeps using it along with the question thing lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:12 GMT
#7826
On July 18 2015 22:39 ruXxar wrote: Here's the breakdown of my rsoultin case and then you guys can decide for yourself. Why rsoultin is scum: The "xP" usage. The numbers don't lie, it was a significant statistical difference. Stats aside, the way she was using them just looks bad. It's artificial and fake. It looks like an attempt and making her opinions less threatening. Trying to diffuse tension as to not get a backlash when she's talking to people. It's like saying "Hey i'm disagreeing with you but don't be offended by my opinion cuz xP". You basically take away any strength that is enclosed in your statement. You make it appear like you're giving an opinion, but the force behind the statement is gone so it's essentially meaningless. This is perfect for scum that wants to appear like they're active and giving an opinion, but does not want to offend anyone or be taken seriously because the tone of their posts is very jokey. Defensive post out of context. This post is super scummy. Like what is this even? Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! This is single-handedly the most scummy post she has made this game. This post appears on page 71. The last time anyone was seriously discussing this was over 20 pages ago. Yet she comes with this out of the blue, still hung up on it in her head, still needing to ridicule a case that was pushed on her because she felt threatened by the fact that it someone might actually still pick up on it. Why is she even in the mindset of doing that when that train had long passed? A town person wouldn't even care at this point, but as scum you're always paranoid that something is going to come bite you in the ass. And then she somehow tries to give an opinion on something in between there. This is the perfect case for why opinions given together with "xP" are essentially meaningless. You can't take anything she says in this post seriously. This post is so bad I'm almost willing to lynch her for this alone. Unable to clearly answer questions: Just read this conversation: (better read in the thread that in the quotes) + Show Spoiler + On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. On July 06 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. Nothing if you have the intelligence of a brussels sprout XP Xp xp xp xp What is that now? 30? On July 06 2015 22:42 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation What is mafiaish about the retardation? You are being very defensive. Nothing if you have the intelligence of a brussels sprout XP Xp xp xp xp What is that now? 30? Let's assume for a minute that my intelligence is above the level of a brussels sprout. Same question. On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people On July 06 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people so are you saying kels' retardation is alignment indicative then? On July 06 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm saying it's retarded enough to doubt my townread on him Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ On July 06 2015 22:52 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm saying it's retarded enough to doubt my townread on him Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ kinda amazing how i understand precisely what Hadron is getting at yet you keep not answering clearly On July 06 2015 22:55 rsoultin wrote: He clearly thought I was saying he was too stupid t get my read so are you sure you're actually following what he was saying? Lol On July 06 2015 22:56 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm saying it's retarded enough to doubt my townread on him Kinda amazing how this leads right back to what my post said when I first posted it ^^ I will make this easy to you since even though you are happy to ridicule my intelligence you do not seem to get what this is all about. Why do you doubt your townread on him? What about the retardation makes him scummy? Are townies not retarded? On July 06 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:55 rsoultin wrote: He clearly thought I was saying he was too stupid t get my read so are you sure you're actually following what he was saying? Lol the pertinent point being: why is what Kelsier did more mafia siding than town siding? What's the motivation to go to all that effort for something that was always a goose chase? especially as he totally backed off his read when he said he needed to check whether it was the same in the first 4 pages or not On July 06 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote: ... See. He's clearly not getting it. I don't expect that level of stupid from kels. Specifically. Kels. On July 06 2015 23:00 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote: ... See. He's clearly not getting it. I don't expect that level of stupid from kels. Specifically. Kels. You are the one not getting it. Ok, you do not expect that level of stupid. Why does it make him mafia? Why would mafia Kelsier be more likely to be stuopid than town Kelsier? On July 06 2015 23:02 rsoultin wrote: I'm done with this marv. I said hf prob scum and i'm retracting HARD giantess on Kels.. Tired of repeating myself, not do I have the time for it. Obv if he's scum that push is too stupid to.achieve anything anyway so why WOULD he hold onto.org? On July 06 2015 23:02 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 23:02 rsoultin wrote: I'm done with this marv. I said hf prob scum and i'm retracting HARD giantess on Kels.. Tired of repeating myself, not do I have the time for it. Obv if he's scum that push is too stupid to.achieve anything anyway so why WOULD he hold onto.org? you should be done with this because you're being absolutely appalling. On July 06 2015 23:06 Harkon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 23:02 rsoultin wrote: I'm done with this marv. I said hf prob scum and i'm retracting HARD giantess on Kels.. Tired of repeating myself, not do I have the time for it. Obv if he's scum that push is too stupid to.achieve anything anyway so why WOULD he hold onto.org? ... Yes, you repeated yourself way too often. No, you never answered the initial question. If it makes no sense to do as scum why is he scummy for doing it? You aren't making sense. On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote: Lol ruxx/hf prob scum Get rekt To the rest of y'all...learn to read On July 06 2015 23:13 marvellosity wrote: did you ever stop to consider, rsoultin, that the fact you have to moan at people not-reading things 100 times per game actually says a whole lot more about what you're writing than how people are reading? Did it? Because it should. think about it. it's you. it's not everyone else. it's you. What I see is a person unable to give a clear answer to a question, responds poorly to pressure and is unable to formulate a clear answer. Let me explain how what rsoultin said makes no sense: She said that kelsier was scummy for doing something retarded. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: Hf treating me like a pariah = prob scum i'll explain later Retracting hard townread on kels for pure retardation She then said that retardation is mafia indicative for intelligent people(which she thinks kelsier is). Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Swahili I'm saying retardation is only alignment indicative for intelligent people She then said that if kelsier was scum, then the kelsier push was too retarded to achieve anything i.e kelsier is town? Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 23:02 rsoultin wrote: I'm done with this marv. I said hf prob scum and i'm retracting HARD giantess on Kels.. Tired of repeating myself, not do I have the time for it. Obv if he's scum that push is too stupid to.achieve anything anyway so why WOULD he hold onto.org? This last quote is the most peculiar one. She's claiming that kelsier is scum for making a retarded push on her. Yet he dropped the push because it wouldn't achieve anything anyway. So why did he make the push in the first place as scum if it was never going to achieve anything. She thinks kelsier is intelligent. but the the push he made was retarded. Yet somehow kelsier wouldn't know the push was retarded until AFTER he made it and not BEFORE? Absolute rubbish. The trfel case: Rsoultin had a town-read on trfel. Which is completely fine. But the way she went about disrupting HF from pushing Trfel is complete non-sense from a town perspective. She instigated HF into a shit-fight and insisted on interjecting, derailing the whole questioning of trfel and alleviating pressure off him when HF had legitimate concerns. This is how it went down: I expressed my concerns about rsoultins behavior, and accused her of disrupting trfel. Instead of coming back with a level-headed response she called my accusation a pile of shit and that I didn't read the interaction. Basically she dismissed it because apparently I hadn't read the interaction well enough. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< So I go back and re-read it again carefully for two reasons 1) To make sure that what I said was actually correct, I could've been wrong. 2) To bring her more concise evidence that she could dispute. So I do that and end up with the paraphrasing in my post here: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. I bring her concrete evidence of what she's doing and link to the pages I get the paraphrasing from. And her response (knowing very well that what I've paraphrased is correct) Still insists it's incorrect as to not give credit to my case on her: Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts She even goes on trying to change the topic. Here I am bringing in a heavy accusation against her, and she just brushes it off as if it was nothing instead of actually trying to correct it or explain what she really was doing. I tell her that it's incorrect she has to tell me HOW it's incorrect or I'll assume that I was correct. My paraphrasing is pulled directly from the quotes in the thread, so there's a very small chance that it's incorrect, but I'm willing to listen if she can explain why. I'm not trying to push something on her that's contrived. I'm openly inviting everyone to review the interaction for themselves. This is not something I made up on my own, this is directly pulled from conversation in the thread. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 13:22 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts If it's incorrect then you should correct it. If you don't I'll assume its correct. I went through all the posts and wrote down my interpretation of them. I don't need to convince you that you're scum, I'm trying to convince everyone else. What bias? This is my interpretation of the events. I encourage everyone that don't believe me to go read for themselves and make up their own mind. Yet she keeps insisting the my paraphrasing is faulty and that it's clearly wrong just by reading the interaction. Well I did read the interaction that what I got out of it is what I stated. Show nested quote + On July 08 2015 13:28 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 13:22 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote: On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin. HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog. The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did. Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play. Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts If it's incorrect then you should correct it. If you don't I'll assume its correct. I went through all the posts and wrote down my interpretation of them. I don't need to convince you that you're scum, I'm trying to convince everyone else. What bias? This is my interpretation of the events. I encourage everyone that don't believe me to go read for themselves and make up their own mind. lol you're never lynching me off a faulty paraphrase, pup, and i don't feel the need to "correct" what is clearly visible just reading the posts i asked you what other reads you had an exercise! \o/ you treat me like you're reading me town and i'll treat you like i'm reading you town, even if i don't much believe it...this tunnel of yours is at best wrong and at worst scummy, so give me something else to read you off if you're actually town Again she's brushing off my paraphrasing as scummy instead of actually trying to explain what the correct way to read the situation was. Super scummy behavior trying to discredit my case on her by simply saying it's wrong instead of giving reasoning for why it's wrong. I later proved that my paraphrasing was correct when I pulled the quotes for paraphrasing: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 00:52 ruXxar wrote: My paraphrasing for comparison: + Show Spoiler + I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. Interaction one: + Show Spoiler + On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. On July 06 2015 15:25 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. heh, doubt it xP but i'll be more sure soon enough On July 06 2015 15:27 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:25 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. heh, doubt it xP but i'll be more sure soon enough I don't need you. On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you On July 06 2015 16:40 Holyflare wrote: Yes go away then thanks. On July 06 2015 16:45 Blazinghand wrote: I haven't seen anything over the line yet, but I can taste the direction of the wind so I'd like to remind players that I am arbitrarily and unreasonably strict about behavior guidelines. I am more aggressive than most hosts about these things, and so to be safe you better just all play nice. This is not a warning. Interaction two: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2015 02:36 Holyflare wrote: No it's not like that at all. Trfel is a consistently logical and well thought out player that posts a lot of what he thinks and is very opinionated ALWAYS. You can't possibly find a game in the database where he has ever opened like this at all. It doesn't exist. I have also played as mafia and try harded enough to experience the burnt out effect of mafiarollingitis. This looks like classic burnt out mafia rolling mafia again. That's not even the whole thing. You can see when he does actually try and start to contribute his posts ask circular questions that never meant to receive an answer that makes sense: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:25 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 16:18 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 16:17 Breshke wrote: I had something in mind, but it didn't actually show anything.On July 06 2015 16:15 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote: Not much, why?Trefel what are you doing? I ment like in the thread i thought you had an angle. But then you started asking questions so meh. On July 06 2015 16:14 rsoultin wrote: Now, if only I knew your alignment....On July 06 2015 16:13 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, do you think that Holyflare is scum? not particularly xP As you can see here. No matter what you answered his reply would always be the same. It's a redundant circular question meant to appear contributary but actually just clutters the thread incessantly drawing us away from actual important things. It's not a thought process, it's literal questions for the sake of asking questions. On July 07 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote: If by forcing you to read him one way or another you mean presenting logical and well thought out facts that counter your made up heresay facts from carol that ended up not even being true then sure. On July 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote: Hm?Uh oh trfel It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. I will never back down from this You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote: On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote: I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what?Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit? Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter? I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote: I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand. Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote: What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!" There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why. "you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha" "shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing" not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously? Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote: On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote: But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds. Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good so basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him xP could get that from reading the thread i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote: or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol >< pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt...especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win again and again has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote: it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it Show nested quote + On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you On July 07 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote: "oh hf totally misrepresented me defending trfel because look i didn't" (if i eliminate the posts from my filter where i do!) after you started shitting on me and trying to make it look like nothing i said was worth anything On July 07 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote: it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote: And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game. I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you want to post your posts in between that, pretty? lol >< are you trying to be hypocritical or does it just come naturally to you? I'm not sure how my posts in between are relevant at all since i'm not defending the stance that I was a dick. I'm saying I had a purpose and you repeatedly spewed tmi or an inability to see the direction of where things were going. If your read is null and someone is pushing something then I have no idea why you'd go in the opposite direction and defend them when your read is null. On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote: i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this Interaction three: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading On July 07 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote: -twitches- i'm trying to let truffle answer for himself but the level of stupid/lack of basic reading comprehension -_- i'm just gonna go do my chem work On July 07 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading like how on earth is that not reading? On July 07 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now.... I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike. Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading like how on earth is that not reading? -_- he already fucking explained it On July 07 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote: Sorry, it's not something I'm going to explain.Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read? And there is much more to my LightningStrike scumread than his latest few posts. yeh he fucking clearly explained it On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers On July 07 2015 09:07 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote: On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote: On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote: On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: I don't have a read on him.I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote: LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers -_- i have nothing productive to say to you if you can't connect that something in the response to those questions prompted that comment, whatever. at least acknowledge that the REAL problem is truffle isn't explaining where his head's at instead of trying to sell that his read changed for NO REASON with NO PROMPTING like seriously. the last time you pulled this shit it was with gb and claiming that the only reason he had to scumread...i don't even remember who it was anymore lol bf?...was because of one post simply because you arbitrarily decided to throw out the other reasons out before i start fighting with you again -_- At this point shitfighting begins There's more inbetween there, but this is the essence of it. This is what I view as disruption/deflection off trfel. I want to know why you did this. Not why you think trfel is town, but why you won't let HF push on him. What I want you to take from all this is not just the fact of her disrupting HF's questioning but the way she reacted when accused of it. Instead of saying "here's where you're wrong because I meant this and this", she instead calls my accusation a "steaming pile of crap" and "wrong". She tries to dismiss it and change topics instead of actually pointing out where I am wrong. That is scum behavior if I've ever seen it. Besides that, most of her filter is just fluff and useless comments. She's not critically thinking about the game or trying to infuse new thoughts. I see no resemblance of someone actually trying to solve the game. What has she done this game besides defending trfel, getting into shit fights and making useless comments? I'll be more than happy to lynch rsoultin today. point one: show me i haven't used it in my town games ^^ and prove that i was ever in any way being a scared little girl in my posting toward anyone point two: what was the context of that post? cause i think you missed it xP xP xP xP xP xP point three: i said and it's right in the part of the exchange that you're leaving out, that kelsier doing that made me doubt my townread on him, but it wasn't enough to scumread him for cause his early posting was still good. and when people asked me why town would back off it, i said that scum would know that was a shit push just as much as town would, so why would they hold it? like you're completely ignoring the part where i was still townreading him when i wrote that post even though that made me doubt his alignment some not only was i on my phone during that exchange, but people were misunderstanding everything i was saying and it was annoying. like you're still appparently doing point four: or...i saw you misrepresenting me and thought it was coming from scum so told you to f off ^^ you conveniently leave out the hour i took discussing every single part of your paraphrase that was wrong in a completely civil manner to try to get a read on you where you completely ignored anything i said, made it clear you weren't interested in really determining my alignment, and just kept repeating the same old thing even though i clearly demonstrated how you were misreading/misrepresenting my interactions with hf and the fight that he started and perpetuated! point five: prove i haven't done anything for this game. i dare you. my case on hf may have been wrong, but i didn't misrepresent anything. i didn't with scott, or milo. i doubted the mz thing and went back to look at the milo and rit claims. i tried to bring damdy to marv's attention. like how have i been doing nothing this game? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:16 GMT
#7828
On July 18 2015 22:35 WaveofShadow wrote: K guys who should i vote for read it's this amazing thing people do when they actually give a shit about the game they're playing ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:20 GMT
#7829
On July 18 2015 21:48 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 20:30 ruXxar wrote: On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 I adequately explained my reason for switching to HF last minute. On July 17 2015 06:55 ruXxar wrote: In case I am wrong on HF and there's mafia on him that's going to do some last minute shenanigans I'm going to switch to HF to ensure we don't get a no-lynch. Not sure how you managed to misinterpret that simple statement. Not knowing what to do with myself? My primary goal has always been to ensure that we don't have a no-lynch. We can't win as town if we don't lynch mafia. The reason I switched off HF is pretty easy to understand as well: If mafia switch off, then we know who the mafia are. Ergo, we are ensured to get mafia next day. I'm flailing around? No I'm pretty sure of what I want to do. This is all pretty simple in my head. There are almost certainly mafia in the HF vote and nothing is going to convince me otherwise. You are the scummiest person on that list. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Kelsier or damdred. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Trfel, Clarity, HTS, Obi or WoS. This day is pretty straight forward to me. ##Vote rsoultin. okay. i'll bite did you ever, at any point, doubt hf was town before then? quote it ^^ why did you suddenly think he was more likely to be scum than town? cause, hun, i know you're smart enough to realize that doubting townies can switch off for a no-lynch just as easily as scum can save a scum partner, so for any of that to make sense you had to think hf was more likely to flip scum than town or be super illogical as a human being explain why he was scum to you just as everyone else was beginning to think he was town and while you're at it, why am i the "scummiest" person on that list? and nothing "preventing" me from being scum with someone is not the same as things actually suggesting that i am scum with someone, unless you think every single other player in this game has a reason preventing them from being scum with kelsier and damdy xP like who are my two scummates? and why was your call to arms while defending hf for the umpteenth time, but he's townier than rsoul! therefore he must be town and she is scum! what is this either/or bs argument you've got going down? what makes our fight impossible to come from two townies? cause, newsflash, it did, so obviously it's not impossible but you already know that, don't you? ^^ ^ answer, ruxx and instead of trying to make a big shiny case, why don't you just say the truth: 'i've had her as scum since d1 for things that don't make her scum and have never bothered to reevaluate' because absolutely none of those points come from after d1 except maybe some of the exchange over your paraphrasing, but the paraphrase still came from d1, and i treated it as i would anything that was terrible and probably coming from scum ^^ you're singing the same old song. don't you know any other tunes? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:49 GMT
#7831
prob bf - he found the most ridiculous reasons to afk his vote like i've ever seen -_- and excuses it by saying "i'll never reevaluate so don't even try" then one of clarity/wave most likely...clarity seems to have stopped playing since hf's martyring other than a few posts here and there, and wave...yeah i know he prefers playing scum but like this is ridic -_- i guess if i'm wrong on any of my townreads it's most likely trfel? but i doubt it lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 14:59 GMT
#7834
it's a really shallow read, though, ignoring why i leave legacies. there have been times i don't leave them as town, and times i leave them as scum to throw people off-track i leave them as town because i expect to be nkd i didn't expect that this game. (yeah, i know i obviously wouldn't if i were scum, too xP i get that) but i mean, kinda obvious that if everyone is saying there's scum between hf and myself, if they kill me and he's scum, he gets more flak. but since we were both town it still makes sense to let us go at each other and try to get the double-mislynch plus all the blue claims? like, i even alluded to it last night phase, were i was going to stay up and put in a lot of work but just said, yeah, i only die if ruxx is scum and prob not even then. it's a little obvious scum is going to try to milk this hf/rsoul thing if they can -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 15:01 GMT
#7835
On July 18 2015 23:55 Clarity_nl wrote: If wave prefers playing scum then the complete afk by him makes him most likely town, no? I think I'm just gonna sheep geript regarding WoS and never lynch him unless I'm at 3 man lylo with someone I read as town. i agree? like i honestly think that if we lynch ruxx/va/bf we win but bresh asked me what about if i'm wrong on ruxx so yeah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 15:19 GMT
#7837
rsoul for mayor! \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 15:39 GMT
#7839
i wasn't really that concerned that i could be wrong on clarity or obi until after he flipped? but you all but cleared obi it didn't change my read on ruxx, but my read on ruxx had to do with how he was approaching the two of us and wasn't dependent on hf's alignment, plus ruxx still hasn't answered where his "doubt" on hf's alignment came from. like maybe i missed earlier doubt on hf but i'm pretty sure it doesn't exist, so ruxx should be able to quote that if he can as for va...i'd thought he was one of the people who'd commented on hf's post from the beginning (and he was lol ><) so i looked back through his filter when i saw him just completely dropping that read and then picking it up again for the exact same reason that always existed as soon as hf was on the block. then he tries to use his being right on hf as a reason that he's "town"? like the timing is just far too coincidental for me, frankly -_- bf i kinda had townie and i was trying to see why hf thought he was town but frankly his posting has been so horrible the last two cycles i just can't see it -_- like the only reason really to think he could be town was not knowing how many scum there were? but i checked out the game trfel was referencing and he was playing up the dumb role super hard there, so that's pretty nai (and easy to fake, anyway) and that just leaves all the shit posting he's been doing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 15:48 GMT
#7841
On July 19 2015 00:40 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2015 21:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 20:30 ruXxar wrote: On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 I adequately explained my reason for switching to HF last minute. On July 17 2015 06:55 ruXxar wrote: In case I am wrong on HF and there's mafia on him that's going to do some last minute shenanigans I'm going to switch to HF to ensure we don't get a no-lynch. Not sure how you managed to misinterpret that simple statement. Not knowing what to do with myself? My primary goal has always been to ensure that we don't have a no-lynch. We can't win as town if we don't lynch mafia. The reason I switched off HF is pretty easy to understand as well: If mafia switch off, then we know who the mafia are. Ergo, we are ensured to get mafia next day. I'm flailing around? No I'm pretty sure of what I want to do. This is all pretty simple in my head. There are almost certainly mafia in the HF vote and nothing is going to convince me otherwise. You are the scummiest person on that list. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Kelsier or damdred. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Trfel, Clarity, HTS, Obi or WoS. This day is pretty straight forward to me. ##Vote rsoultin. okay. i'll bite did you ever, at any point, doubt hf was town before then? quote it ^^ why did you suddenly think he was more likely to be scum than town? cause, hun, i know you're smart enough to realize that doubting townies can switch off for a no-lynch just as easily as scum can save a scum partner, so for any of that to make sense you had to think hf was more likely to flip scum than town or be super illogical as a human being explain why he was scum to you just as everyone else was beginning to think he was town and while you're at it, why am i the "scummiest" person on that list? and nothing "preventing" me from being scum with someone is not the same as things actually suggesting that i am scum with someone, unless you think every single other player in this game has a reason preventing them from being scum with kelsier and damdy xP like who are my two scummates? and why was your call to arms while defending hf for the umpteenth time, but he's townier than rsoul! therefore he must be town and she is scum! what is this either/or bs argument you've got going down? what makes our fight impossible to come from two townies? cause, newsflash, it did, so obviously it's not impossible but you already know that, don't you? ^^ 1) HF was a null read until he started pushing trfel. After that point he stayed as a town-read and I did not see him doing anything after that to change my opinion of him to scum. Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote: I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. Your deflection of trfel inflated my town-read of him further as I saw him being the towny one out of the two of you, actually trying to figure out the game and get information out of people. 2) I never thought he was more likely to be scum than town. In my mind my priority was Lynch > no-lynch. Then HF pointed out that if people switch off HF they're practically confirmed scum. Show nested quote + Which I didn't consider before he mentioned it.On July 17 2015 06:57 ruXxar wrote: On July 17 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: you should want mafia to switch off and no lynch because then you get free mafia tbh That's actually a good point. 3) My strongest town-reads right now are : Oatsmaster - for previously stated reasons. Boxerfred - for previous reasons + the fact that he's pushing on you. I think your mafia partners are among these people HTS Clarity Trfel WoS Obi Breshke That's what's so great about you rsoultin. You haven't pushed or pissed of many people, and very few people have seriously considered you as scum which is why you fit in so many worlds. 4) Shitfighting in itself isn't alignment indicative. What I'm looking at is why it arised and what it accomplished. I found that your shitfighting disrupted the questioning of trfel which is why I'm scum-reading you for it. what was townie about hf's push? why do you immediately jump to the conclusion (and never drop it) that there must be scum between hf and i? how is what i did this game different than what i did with gb in himalayas? why is lynching town!hf which you never doubted since early d1 (told you bresh!) better than a no-lynch? why do you think so many people in the game are scum? who is scum if you're wrong on me? (you are, btw xP) you don't believe the jk claim? why? i already proved that i didn't disrupt the "questioning" of trfel when hf first started and you got all hot and heavy for hf. he said something that seemed to be directed at me, i responded, he told me to fuck off and i got angry and told him that i thought trfel was town and am good at reading him. hf got even more dismissive. do you dispute that? think carefully. reread that section ^^ cause i don't even need to defend myself there; it's blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes, and a big part of why i thought (and still think) you were deliberately trying to make me look bad in your paraphrase that omitted a lot of the context of our argument | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 15:53 GMT
#7843
everyone who is voting for me is clearly town such logics! \o/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 16:12 GMT
#7849
if that's what you thought why was bresh on your scumlist? + all the other dozen questions of mine you're ignoring ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 16:16 GMT
#7851
btw i don't need novels or sermons. simple answers are best unless you need to spew paragraphs to get your point across | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 16:29 GMT
#7854
On July 19 2015 01:25 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: On July 19 2015 00:51 Breshke wrote: why is EBH not scum ruxxar? Also if you think obi is scum you either think i got fairly unlucky or im scum.so the team would exactly be me rsoul and obi I haven't had the time to consider your claim yet. Talk to me about it. Why did you decide to jail Obi of all people and not one of the more highly contested people like me? I don't see a benefit for town fake claiming here unless they are in contention for getting lynched the next day. I could see town fake-claiming to save themselves if they had no other way of escape, and that they would also guard one of their strongest town-reads to protect them as well. I don't get the impression that OBI is your strongest town-read so that theory doesn't make sense. It seems like a very unnatural thought, and I don't think you'd think of making that play as town unless you were a real PR. The option as you say is that you're mafia and that you're trying to clear your scum-mate. However that would be an extremely high risk play since it brings a lot of attention to yourself when you weren't previously in contention for getting lynched, and as you said you could've saved it for later when it would've been even more effective. For now I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm always weary of lynching PR claims. I wouldn't be surprised actually if you were PR since scum has had 2 RBer's this game which is unprecedented and really strong for a scum team. As for Obi, he could still possibly be scum just not a KP carrier (1/3 chance), so not going to give him a free pass for that just yet. I Rb'd obi for the exact reason in your post. He wasn't one of the main people in contention. Ill let you know some of the things i was thinking. First of all I wanted to save my power until there was two scum left because if i didnt cause a reduction in KP the eprson would be confirmed town. The reason i did not do this is because i did not want to claim in mylo. Im not sure if i should have saved like marv or JAT and kept them around another phase idk how useful that would be and the nature of me not being a high impact player coupled with my more inactive play this game i was fairly certain i would be alive later in the game hence i didn't use my ability early. So last night if i was going to use my ability on the person i most thought was scum i would have used it on rsoultin. This probably wasn't as clear to the thread as i thought it was looking back but last night i thought it was so it ran through my mind that the possibility there was a rolecop they would make sure rsoultin didnt carry kp. I also think clarity would be one to not carry kp as along with rsoultin being active like why run the risk when you can just shove it on your less active teammates. The same kind of applys for you ruxxar but last night i thought you were very likely town i still do but you townreading like only the people rsoul scumreads is so meh. I also wanted to RB someone who if there was no reduction in kp i thought i could kinda work with so this left me with like HTS or obi (maybe vivax but i dont remember why i didnt consider him) and i didn't get to check the game that HF linked about HTS nor have i yet so i still thought she was rather town and a possible night kill at the time. So yeah it was obi, i kinda regret not saving it but i feel like i would be getting pushed this phase and it isnt worth the risk idk. I actually planned to not use it but changed my mind like 6 hours before deadline. you still haven't said why you're reading me scum? like...are you seriously basing it on legacies and the ridiculous notion that hf and i can't fight as town? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 16:47 GMT
#7856
On July 19 2015 01:27 Breshke wrote: Also why isnt there an option that I am mafia trying to take obi down with me/pocket him? That would seem most likely to me 1 mafia for a town at this stage would be not bad especially since i could have been a lynch without this claim which i admit because its the reason i used my ability earlier than i wanted Frankly I considered that but pocketing no unless you just have a wealth of available mislynches didn't seen like a winning scum play? frankly I have a hard time seeing so many blues in this game -_- but a harder time seeing this as a scum play and the logic is sound | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 16:50 GMT
#7858
On July 19 2015 01:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As I read the thread I continue to ask myself: Why are we trying to lynch people who post? Cause wave is coinflippy and we're right back here again tomorrow if he flips town, only it'll be mylo? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 18:27 GMT
#7868
On July 19 2015 01:55 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 01:29 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 01:25 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: On July 19 2015 00:51 Breshke wrote: why is EBH not scum ruxxar? Also if you think obi is scum you either think i got fairly unlucky or im scum.so the team would exactly be me rsoul and obi I haven't had the time to consider your claim yet. Talk to me about it. Why did you decide to jail Obi of all people and not one of the more highly contested people like me? I don't see a benefit for town fake claiming here unless they are in contention for getting lynched the next day. I could see town fake-claiming to save themselves if they had no other way of escape, and that they would also guard one of their strongest town-reads to protect them as well. I don't get the impression that OBI is your strongest town-read so that theory doesn't make sense. It seems like a very unnatural thought, and I don't think you'd think of making that play as town unless you were a real PR. The option as you say is that you're mafia and that you're trying to clear your scum-mate. However that would be an extremely high risk play since it brings a lot of attention to yourself when you weren't previously in contention for getting lynched, and as you said you could've saved it for later when it would've been even more effective. For now I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm always weary of lynching PR claims. I wouldn't be surprised actually if you were PR since scum has had 2 RBer's this game which is unprecedented and really strong for a scum team. As for Obi, he could still possibly be scum just not a KP carrier (1/3 chance), so not going to give him a free pass for that just yet. I Rb'd obi for the exact reason in your post. He wasn't one of the main people in contention. Ill let you know some of the things i was thinking. First of all I wanted to save my power until there was two scum left because if i didnt cause a reduction in KP the eprson would be confirmed town. The reason i did not do this is because i did not want to claim in mylo. Im not sure if i should have saved like marv or JAT and kept them around another phase idk how useful that would be and the nature of me not being a high impact player coupled with my more inactive play this game i was fairly certain i would be alive later in the game hence i didn't use my ability early. So last night if i was going to use my ability on the person i most thought was scum i would have used it on rsoultin. This probably wasn't as clear to the thread as i thought it was looking back but last night i thought it was so it ran through my mind that the possibility there was a rolecop they would make sure rsoultin didnt carry kp. I also think clarity would be one to not carry kp as along with rsoultin being active like why run the risk when you can just shove it on your less active teammates. The same kind of applys for you ruxxar but last night i thought you were very likely town i still do but you townreading like only the people rsoul scumreads is so meh. I also wanted to RB someone who if there was no reduction in kp i thought i could kinda work with so this left me with like HTS or obi (maybe vivax but i dont remember why i didnt consider him) and i didn't get to check the game that HF linked about HTS nor have i yet so i still thought she was rather town and a possible night kill at the time. So yeah it was obi, i kinda regret not saving it but i feel like i would be getting pushed this phase and it isnt worth the risk idk. I actually planned to not use it but changed my mind like 6 hours before deadline. you still haven't said why you're reading me scum? like...are you seriously basing it on legacies and the ridiculous notion that hf and i can't fight as town? No its not just based on that. The legacy thing could easily be outdated even though that is what i said last time but there was also a feeling i had that like in the later stages of last day phase you would come into the thread and just interact with HF while saing you were not really caught up and at first it was like oh cool she is trying to sort out the problem blah blah but then it was like okay enough is enough this is clearly going nowhere now do other things. Obviously that paragraph is a load of shit and i want to justify it with quotes and stuff but that is for tomorrow hence why i havnt said why i have been scum reading you. Also rsoul look at that votecount. That is a ballsy scumteam if you are right. Like we arnt even in mylo ,,, no shit it's a load of shit the "latter stages" of last day phase was when i brought my case on hf in the morning and then like...i dunnae 30 mins before EoD in the evening when everyone was getting cold feet -_- cause if you're referring to anything before that where i was trying to determine the main wagon's alignment, i was interacting with everyone, not just hf like what are you even smoking this game, bresh? yes i'm aware that va voted me after my post and now my main three scumreads are all voting me lol >< i'm willing to admit that i could be wrong on that, but what's your point? like, why am i wrong on ruxx? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 18:28 GMT
#7869
On July 19 2015 02:02 Breshke wrote: Also something really bugs me about the vivax nightkill. Like he wasn't apart of either of the two "teams" i felt were coming out during that nightphase.. The teams being basically the HF scumreads, and the rsoul scumreads. It kinda makes me think both are wrong and its a mixture but im not sure if that makes sense ?? are you honestly saying that it's weird that vivax got nkd when no one was scumreading him? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 18:30 GMT
#7870
On July 19 2015 02:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 01:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As I read the thread I continue to ask myself: Why are we trying to lynch people who post? Cause wave is coinflippy and we're right back here again tomorrow if he flips town, only it'll be mylo? Why are we even in this position right now? It's obvious both you/ruxx are town and there's no reason to lynch players who do stuff. Besides, why even spare Wave a day if we're just going to have to deal with him tomorrow? Same deal. -_- because scum is going to shoot the last few people willing to not lynch me and i refuse to be mislynched in fucking mylo again same question to you. why is ruxx town? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 18:49 GMT
#7874
answer my questions with all due respect, ruxx, you don't have a fucking clue what i use my emoticons for and you can't without being in my head, so there's no such thing as a "fact" regarding how i'm using them you do realize i was spamming xPs at all of you crazies thinking it meant any thing? like even if there were any validity to something as retarded as how many times i use xP in a game, the data is skewed and even oats isn't pushing it anymore, so why are you? i did respond to your point ^^ - someone who is normally intelligent doing a retarded thing is scummy - i didn't think it outweighed his earlier play, but it made me more wary of him, thus why i said he wasn't my strongest townread anymore - and no, scum (unless they're being stupid ^^) aren't going to push on something so obviously dumb dude seriously -_- n2 night friggin 2 when i was trying to get you to talk to me read that again and tell me what you don't understand -_- i made two cases on hf, the one you THOUGHT was me defending trfel cause you're not actually reading the posts of your biggest "scumread" ^^ and the one the day we mislynched him you're not reading my filter you're not reading my filter you're not reading my filter i'm you're biggest "scumread" and you're not reading my filter answer my questions | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 19:03 GMT
#7876
On July 19 2015 03:56 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 00:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 00:40 ruXxar wrote: On July 18 2015 21:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 20:30 ruXxar wrote: On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him. Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you. if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case. no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^ like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch" which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1 I adequately explained my reason for switching to HF last minute. On July 17 2015 06:55 ruXxar wrote: In case I am wrong on HF and there's mafia on him that's going to do some last minute shenanigans I'm going to switch to HF to ensure we don't get a no-lynch. Not sure how you managed to misinterpret that simple statement. Not knowing what to do with myself? My primary goal has always been to ensure that we don't have a no-lynch. We can't win as town if we don't lynch mafia. The reason I switched off HF is pretty easy to understand as well: If mafia switch off, then we know who the mafia are. Ergo, we are ensured to get mafia next day. I'm flailing around? No I'm pretty sure of what I want to do. This is all pretty simple in my head. There are almost certainly mafia in the HF vote and nothing is going to convince me otherwise. You are the scummiest person on that list. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Kelsier or damdred. I don't see anything that prevents you from being mafia together with Trfel, Clarity, HTS, Obi or WoS. This day is pretty straight forward to me. ##Vote rsoultin. okay. i'll bite did you ever, at any point, doubt hf was town before then? quote it ^^ why did you suddenly think he was more likely to be scum than town? cause, hun, i know you're smart enough to realize that doubting townies can switch off for a no-lynch just as easily as scum can save a scum partner, so for any of that to make sense you had to think hf was more likely to flip scum than town or be super illogical as a human being explain why he was scum to you just as everyone else was beginning to think he was town and while you're at it, why am i the "scummiest" person on that list? and nothing "preventing" me from being scum with someone is not the same as things actually suggesting that i am scum with someone, unless you think every single other player in this game has a reason preventing them from being scum with kelsier and damdy xP like who are my two scummates? and why was your call to arms while defending hf for the umpteenth time, but he's townier than rsoul! therefore he must be town and she is scum! what is this either/or bs argument you've got going down? what makes our fight impossible to come from two townies? cause, newsflash, it did, so obviously it's not impossible but you already know that, don't you? ^^ 1) HF was a null read until he started pushing trfel. After that point he stayed as a town-read and I did not see him doing anything after that to change my opinion of him to scum. On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote: On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote: I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. Your deflection of trfel inflated my town-read of him further as I saw him being the towny one out of the two of you, actually trying to figure out the game and get information out of people. 2) I never thought he was more likely to be scum than town. In my mind my priority was Lynch > no-lynch. Then HF pointed out that if people switch off HF they're practically confirmed scum. On July 17 2015 06:57 ruXxar wrote: Which I didn't consider before he mentioned it.On July 17 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: you should want mafia to switch off and no lynch because then you get free mafia tbh That's actually a good point. 3) My strongest town-reads right now are : Oatsmaster - for previously stated reasons. Boxerfred - for previous reasons + the fact that he's pushing on you. I think your mafia partners are among these people HTS Clarity Trfel WoS Obi Breshke That's what's so great about you rsoultin. You haven't pushed or pissed of many people, and very few people have seriously considered you as scum which is why you fit in so many worlds. 4) Shitfighting in itself isn't alignment indicative. What I'm looking at is why it arised and what it accomplished. I found that your shitfighting disrupted the questioning of trfel which is why I'm scum-reading you for it. what was townie about hf's push? why do you immediately jump to the conclusion (and never drop it) that there must be scum between hf and i? how is what i did this game different than what i did with gb in himalayas? why is lynching town!hf which you never doubted since early d1 (told you bresh!) better than a no-lynch? why do you think so many people in the game are scum? who is scum if you're wrong on me? (you are, btw xP) you don't believe the jk claim? why? i already proved that i didn't disrupt the "questioning" of trfel when hf first started and you got all hot and heavy for hf. he said something that seemed to be directed at me, i responded, he told me to fuck off and i got angry and told him that i thought trfel was town and am good at reading him. hf got even more dismissive. do you dispute that? think carefully. reread that section ^^ cause i don't even need to defend myself there; it's blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes, and a big part of why i thought (and still think) you were deliberately trying to make me look bad in your paraphrase that omitted a lot of the context of our argument 1) He found a discrepancy in Trfels meta play and I agreed with it, so he pushed him on it. He found a discrepancy in Trfel's read on LS, so he pushed him on it. Trfel was evasive in giving out his reads so he pushed him on it. All of these things I consider towny, do you not? 2) There's no universal law that says there has to be a scum between you and HF. The shitfighting itself is NAI, it's the way you reacted and why it arose and what it accomplished that's scummy, not the shitfighting itself. 3) Can you be more specific? 4) Because having someone as a town read does not mean that you know 100% that they're town, it just means that you think they have a higher chance of flipping town than other people, and I was actively trying to get other people lynched. 5) I do not think all of the people I listed are scum, I said that they could potentially be your partners. In fact my scum-reads were vivax and you, the rest of the people are more or less degrees of null <-> townreads. At this point I need to face the reality that some of my townreads are wrong, so I'm re-evaluating and those are the people I'm re-evaluating as potential scum even if I haven't found their play to be obviously scummy so far. 6) Answered this in another post. 1. these two had me doubting his alignment and thinking he could be town so obviously. you're ignoring his initial push where you first crawled up his butt though ^^ which wasn't meta. it was simply. you're not posting a few hours into d1. therefore you must be scum who rolled scum twice. that wasn't meta. frankly, that was 100% retarded of hf to think that regardless of trfel's alignment it would be effective pressure to just call him scum and say he'd never reevaluate...as town that's likely to just make people not even want to bother -_- and was a huge part of why i read hf scum 2. nope. explain. exactly. what. was. scummy. about. it. just saying it was scummy doesn't make it scummy and this feels like you're dodging my question because you have no good answer for it 3. >< you were in himalayas! you KNOW that i defended him from HF d1 off a TONEREAD which is what you are SCUMREADING ME FOR THIS GAME 4. nonononono if you think someone's town you try to NOT lynch them. this is bs. you say you didn't doubt. if you didn't doubt you didn't doubt. you don't get to have it both ways >< 5. okay. who is scum? you're wrong on me so if you're town, and you actually lynch me, when i flip town who is scum? you cannot literally only have one scumread at this stage in the game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 19:06 GMT
#7878
you guys are hopeless -_- he's saying things he can't possibly believe and y'all read him town for it. like i don't even >< meh, i'm done with this read my points i'm gonna do something else for awhile | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 19:10 GMT
#7882
On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 19:22 GMT
#7885
On July 19 2015 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 04:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all This makes him scum? He's being told by a lot of people that he's making dumb arguments, yet he just keeps doing it. Hmph. doing nothing useful for days? yeah? like...how does it make him town? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 19:31 GMT
#7887
On July 19 2015 04:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 19 2015 04:10 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all This makes him scum? He's being told by a lot of people that he's making dumb arguments, yet he just keeps doing it. Hmph. doing nothing useful for days? yeah? like...how does it make him town? Not saying it does. Although the persistence feels townie. If you tell scum to shut up enough you'd think they would. It's not the greatest argument I admit. lol definitely depends on the scum i know a lot who wouldn't, myself included xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 20:00 GMT
#7889
On July 19 2015 04:59 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah but I imagine you are able to make sense. Rsoultin I feel you treat me different, you're very aggressive with others yet you timidly answer my questions, do you just have a super town read on me or what? weird question lol >< i'm aggressive with stupid/scumreads when you're stupid i'll let you know xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 18 2015 23:04 GMT
#7892
it's a numbers game and i'm not going to teach you how to play ^^ that's for student mafia i'm done with you. you're scum | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 04:38 GMT
#7929
On July 19 2015 10:35 Half the Sky wrote: Ras can you sum up your main argument against BF? I don't have a whole lot of time left here but in his town games where he was always behind you people really think he's faking his emotions? Or so called dumbtells? Let me power through nsm10....stand by. nah, it's nothing as specific as that? like, it's partly poe and partly his overall play here was so subpar that i thought it probably wasn't scum, especially with the "dumbtell", however like he was really playing up that whole "i'm lost and don't know what i'm doing" thing in his scum game, too here he just comes up with an excuse to afk his vote and yeah it's partially cause i've got a lot of townreads/leans in the rest of y'all as for trfel, clarity...i still kinda trust my toneread? i know that's not what people want to hear xP and it hasn't been a terribly good game for him, but like, it's a personality thing? truffle wants to be right so he'll put the work in as town, fret over it, and if he can't, just be one lazy mofo...as scum there's no need to be that thorough? like, i really doubt he's scum here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 05:00 GMT
#7931
while i'm aware that it's a personal bias of mine to be resistant to the idea that someone actually is stupid, it's a bias i don't mind having the bigger question is who is scum if not him? i'm not ^^ you can lynch me and find out for sure and go straight to mylo, if you want. my give a shits this game are coming in short supply for all the non-reasons people have to think i'm scum you seem to think ruxx isn't for whatever reason -_- who does that leave, bresh? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 05:30 GMT
#7933
On July 19 2015 14:10 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 14:00 rsoultin wrote: i dunnae, bresh. i'll look into it again more closely, i guess, but frankly with the numbers of the players right on the OP, i'd call it playing dumb. i'd call it playing dumb for him to repeatedly reference a game hts wasn't even in while i'm aware that it's a personal bias of mine to be resistant to the idea that someone actually is stupid, it's a bias i don't mind having the bigger question is who is scum if not him? i'm not ^^ you can lynch me and find out for sure and go straight to mylo, if you want. my give a shits this game are coming in short supply for all the non-reasons people have to think i'm scum you seem to think ruxx isn't for whatever reason -_- who does that leave, bresh? You, clarity, VA and WoS. I can understand your frustration if you are town, i know im not even really presenting reason on why you are scum other than dead peoples opinions and some shitty votecount thing. Talk to me about this rsoul. Your curent world is a scumteam of Ruxxar, BF and EBH. None of these people voted on HF yesterday do you think it is viable to believe that scum didn't vote on him at all? should i bother? like i doubt you can understand my frustration at all. i do not believe that a town ruxx would think this way, and even if he did, wouldn't bother reading my filter or trying to determine my alignment all game i already told you that i thought ruxx, bf, va, wave, clarity were where you'd find the scum, and yes, that's in the order of certainty no. in all honesty i don't think it was terribly likely that there were no scum on hf lol >< i'm just not seeing many people who i think are particularly scummy on his wagon? i was looking into obi before you cleared him and i'm not 100% sold that clarity is town, or wave, but as for the rest...-shrugs- i do think it's a bit ridiculous to base your scumreads off arbitrary "there must be 2 on the wagon and 1 off" sort of assumptions, however, instead of actually evaluating the play. why must that be the case, and why use an assumption based on nothing like that when it could easily lead you astray? like, seriously, if scum can get away with not voting for hf, you don't think they would? what's more concerning to me and what should be more concerning to y'all is that these alternate wagons of 1s and 2s were never ever going to be lynched but all the "dissenters" parked on different ones instead of at least agreeing on a counterwagon. it's ridiculously pointless to waste a vote like that, especially for people so sure that hf is town i dunnae. no, i don't think all scum voted off-wagon but i'm going to look for who i think is scum frankly, if you hadn't claimed jk with reasonable logic behind that claim, your single vote on the sidelines there looked pretty bad to me -_- while talking about not liking the lynch | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 13:45 GMT
#7976
yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol >< (truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly) i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one? anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 13:51 GMT
#7979
lol oh i thought you were being sarcastic cause now you're talking about lynching clarity? lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 13:58 GMT
#7982
On July 19 2015 22:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 22:51 rsoultin wrote: -squints at- lol oh i thought you were being sarcastic cause now you're talking about lynching clarity? lol >< So mafia cant say town people are town? Lol. nah, it was more the let's lynch rsoul at the end followed by a vote on clar xP i need to reread clarity's filter and bf's games today before lynch | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:04 GMT
#7987
if you want to know the truth, i think y'all are gonna flail around a lot arguing till right before EoD, consolidate on me for #reasons! and just generally not listen to me all game like y'all have already been doing and do pretty much every game -shrugs- and go into mylo tomorrow best i can do is leave something behind and unless anyone wants to actually bring forth a real reason i'm scum i'm just gonna ignore that and pretend i'm invincible lol >< so whatever | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:14 GMT
#7991
On July 19 2015 23:02 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote: o.0 yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol >< (truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly) i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one? anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him? Idk i just feel like you would be thrown into doubt when HF flipped town since you seemed fairly sure but maybe im thinking more how i would react than how you would react. Also i wasn't using my JK defensively i wasnt going for a save i was going for a RB. Can you talk to me about the stuff i said about VA i dont think its as good as i think it is you're right, offensively was the correct word lol >< and actually what i meant. i'm just half-awake the crux of your scumread is after being wrong on hf i shouldn't have other strong scumreads? that's...kinda ludicrous? like look at it from my perspective. i know i'm town, and hf was obviously town. hf being town actually just cements the feeling i've had all game that ruxx was making up shit to take sides there...like his huge argument the day we lynched hf was hf looked townier than i did? you probably aren't reading our posts cause they're tedious and even i don't want to -_- but it's basically turned into a rsoul i'm scumreading you for doing this! only that's not what i did? yes you did! no i didn't! -_- i dunnae how to explain it really but i feel that a town ruxx would at least look back to make sure that what he thought was what actually happened, and it seems a hell of a lot like he was setting me up for when hf flipped town. he says now he's scumreading me for basically being an asshole to him, but before it was definitely for "defending" truffle which i've said dozens of times this game he's seen me do as TOWN in the only game we've played together i kinda just want to leave my vote on him, yet y'all lynch me and demand you lynch him the next day when i flip town, since it worked so well for hf lol >< mindless lemmings meh, i dunnae how that necessarily makes va scum? like i get why you think it does, cause it's him "keeping his options open" or whatever, but va does the nk wifom thing (pretty imprefectly lol ><) on a regular basis. i've seen it in all his town games...not sure if he does it as scum or not | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:15 GMT
#7992
On July 19 2015 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote: nope ^^ if you want to know the truth, i think y'all are gonna flail around a lot arguing till right before EoD, consolidate on me for #reasons! and just generally not listen to me all game like y'all have already been doing and do pretty much every game -shrugs- and go into mylo tomorrow best i can do is leave something behind and unless anyone wants to actually bring forth a real reason i'm scum i'm just gonna ignore that and pretend i'm invincible lol >< so whatever It appears trfel isn't happening, I don't think I can convince people in the ~2 hours I have left nor do I want to spend my time that way. Like trfel is playing "objectively scummy" imo, but for meta reasons and DMA reasons people don't want to lynch him. I wanna put my vote somewhere useful. I think you could be scum, rsoultin, but I'm not confident in it. I also think that unless both you and hts are scum together, hts can figure you out better than me today and tomorrow. I want you to come to a conclusion today regarding trfel. Is he a DO NOT LYNCH for you? In the mean time I guess that leaves bf to put my vote on. ##Vote boxerfred he's a do not lynch for me all game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:20 GMT
#7995
On July 19 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote: Just settled at the Starbucks. I have about 90 minutes here before I have to meet the family for brunch. Not digging the BF lynch right now, power reading his nsm10 filter though....Ras I don't get the change in position on BF or did you just change your mind? ....or should I just read.... change in position? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:26 GMT
#7996
On July 19 2015 23:19 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats if you've read my filter I shine with tryhard townie thoughts, lynching me because of something you consider "dumb" is terrible and you should reconsider. On July 19 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 19 2015 22:39 Breshke wrote: Im a guy Also there was like at least 3 people in the night that said they wanted to kill me. Also there was the possibility that mafia had a role cop still and they had just randomly used it on me. ##Vote Rsoultin I said some shitty reasons before but it is good enough for now. Clarity says too many things that make sense especially that last big post. I also find it really weird that VA says he likes 4 people and then all he has to do is make a decision about my claim and he has auto yet he decides to flip his read on ruxxar for shitty wifom reason that vivax scum read him even though there is a bunch of explanations on why vivax died. But still I want to lynch either clarity or rsoul today and like i said im liking clarity more. If mafia kills you, your jk literally doesnt matter. Can you quote the posts where people want to kill you? Doesnt my thingy stll go off if i die? On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote: VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia. how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence? breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read On July 18 2015 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote: Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare ruXxar (1): Breshke Here's where I stand, which actually makes the lynches quite easy. I would start with ruxxar, then OWS + Breshke in some order and then rsoultin if necesarry, easy game. Yeah but we wouldn't know why a kp was missing and it wouldn't give us an extra day, so you have to be alive for your jk to mean anything my last post before daypost was obi jk haha i think you guys could have worked it out. Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:14 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 23:02 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote: o.0 yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol >< (truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly) i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one? anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him? Idk i just feel like you would be thrown into doubt when HF flipped town since you seemed fairly sure but maybe im thinking more how i would react than how you would react. Also i wasn't using my JK defensively i wasnt going for a save i was going for a RB. Can you talk to me about the stuff i said about VA i dont think its as good as i think it is you're right, offensively was the correct word lol >< and actually what i meant. i'm just half-awake the crux of your scumread is after being wrong on hf i shouldn't have other strong scumreads? that's...kinda ludicrous? like look at it from my perspective. i know i'm town, and hf was obviously town. hf being town actually just cements the feeling i've had all game that ruxx was making up shit to take sides there...like his huge argument the day we lynched hf was hf looked townier than i did? you probably aren't reading our posts cause they're tedious and even i don't want to -_- but it's basically turned into a rsoul i'm scumreading you for doing this! only that's not what i did? yes you did! no i didn't! -_- i dunnae how to explain it really but i feel that a town ruxx would at least look back to make sure that what he thought was what actually happened, and it seems a hell of a lot like he was setting me up for when hf flipped town. he says now he's scumreading me for basically being an asshole to him, but before it was definitely for "defending" truffle which i've said dozens of times this game he's seen me do as TOWN in the only game we've played together i kinda just want to leave my vote on him, yet y'all lynch me and demand you lynch him the next day when i flip town, since it worked so well for hf lol >< mindless lemmings meh, i dunnae how that necessarily makes va scum? like i get why you think it does, cause it's him "keeping his options open" or whatever, but va does the nk wifom thing (pretty imprefectly lol ><) on a regular basis. i've seen it in all his town games...not sure if he does it as scum or not That is half my point thought the arguments felt useless like i wont lie i didnt read the big post from him today nor your reply to it because it just feels like a bunch of he said she said. So we lynch ruxxar and he flips town. Who do youw ant to lynch tomorrow? I know i asked something like this before but im trying to get a clear picture you did and it hasn't changed xP i still think scum is between va/bf/wave/clarity if ruxx flips town, but i'm pretty sure he won't ^^ and yes, the arguing is pointless and that's why i stopped. he decided hf was town and i was scum 12 hrs into the game for reasons that aren't even accurate. like you accuse me of having unchanging reads lol >< when i've actually tried to work with both of them like maybe va is a better shot for flipping scum than bf and i'm just being too hopeful thinking that people really aren't that...eh, i have no nice way to describe bf if he's not scum so i'm not going to go there -_- va completely forgot his townread on hf. then when hf is being lynched he suddenly remembers again, and it's for the same reason that always existed? like, how is that possible? hf wasn't just a townread, either; he was va's most confident townread. i don't think a town!va forgets that, and him trying to use this "i was right on hf" for towncred makes it look even worse. his memory lapse was very convenient, imo | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:31 GMT
#7999
eh i think that's wifomy, frankly. hf was hugely disruptive to this game, even as town, and a very viable mislynch (obviously!) so why nk him anyway? lol >< i mean people kept putting forth his name as a vig shot i don't think it really means anything? although...it could explain why he was townreading hf so hard, i guess -_- even though every time i've asked him why he hasn't mentioned it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:33 GMT
#8000
On July 19 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 23:19 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 23:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats if you've read my filter I shine with tryhard townie thoughts, lynching me because of something you consider "dumb" is terrible and you should reconsider. On July 19 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 19 2015 22:39 Breshke wrote: Im a guy Also there was like at least 3 people in the night that said they wanted to kill me. Also there was the possibility that mafia had a role cop still and they had just randomly used it on me. ##Vote Rsoultin I said some shitty reasons before but it is good enough for now. Clarity says too many things that make sense especially that last big post. I also find it really weird that VA says he likes 4 people and then all he has to do is make a decision about my claim and he has auto yet he decides to flip his read on ruxxar for shitty wifom reason that vivax scum read him even though there is a bunch of explanations on why vivax died. But still I want to lynch either clarity or rsoul today and like i said im liking clarity more. If mafia kills you, your jk literally doesnt matter. Can you quote the posts where people want to kill you? Doesnt my thingy stll go off if i die? On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote: VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia. how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence? breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read On July 18 2015 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote: Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare ruXxar (1): Breshke Here's where I stand, which actually makes the lynches quite easy. I would start with ruxxar, then OWS + Breshke in some order and then rsoultin if necesarry, easy game. Yeah but we wouldn't know why a kp was missing and it wouldn't give us an extra day, so you have to be alive for your jk to mean anything my last post before daypost was obi jk haha i think you guys could have worked it out. On July 19 2015 23:14 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 23:02 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote: o.0 yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol >< (truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly) i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one? anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him? Idk i just feel like you would be thrown into doubt when HF flipped town since you seemed fairly sure but maybe im thinking more how i would react than how you would react. Also i wasn't using my JK defensively i wasnt going for a save i was going for a RB. Can you talk to me about the stuff i said about VA i dont think its as good as i think it is you're right, offensively was the correct word lol >< and actually what i meant. i'm just half-awake the crux of your scumread is after being wrong on hf i shouldn't have other strong scumreads? that's...kinda ludicrous? like look at it from my perspective. i know i'm town, and hf was obviously town. hf being town actually just cements the feeling i've had all game that ruxx was making up shit to take sides there...like his huge argument the day we lynched hf was hf looked townier than i did? you probably aren't reading our posts cause they're tedious and even i don't want to -_- but it's basically turned into a rsoul i'm scumreading you for doing this! only that's not what i did? yes you did! no i didn't! -_- i dunnae how to explain it really but i feel that a town ruxx would at least look back to make sure that what he thought was what actually happened, and it seems a hell of a lot like he was setting me up for when hf flipped town. he says now he's scumreading me for basically being an asshole to him, but before it was definitely for "defending" truffle which i've said dozens of times this game he's seen me do as TOWN in the only game we've played together i kinda just want to leave my vote on him, yet y'all lynch me and demand you lynch him the next day when i flip town, since it worked so well for hf lol >< mindless lemmings meh, i dunnae how that necessarily makes va scum? like i get why you think it does, cause it's him "keeping his options open" or whatever, but va does the nk wifom thing (pretty imprefectly lol ><) on a regular basis. i've seen it in all his town games...not sure if he does it as scum or not That is half my point thought the arguments felt useless like i wont lie i didnt read the big post from him today nor your reply to it because it just feels like a bunch of he said she said. So we lynch ruxxar and he flips town. Who do youw ant to lynch tomorrow? I know i asked something like this before but im trying to get a clear picture you did and it hasn't changed xP i still think scum is between va/bf/wave/clarity if ruxx flips town, but i'm pretty sure he won't ^^ and yes, the arguing is pointless and that's why i stopped. he decided hf was town and i was scum 12 hrs into the game for reasons that aren't even accurate. like you accuse me of having unchanging reads lol >< when i've actually tried to work with both of them like maybe va is a better shot for flipping scum than bf and i'm just being too hopeful thinking that people really aren't that...eh, i have no nice way to describe bf if he's not scum so i'm not going to go there -_- va completely forgot his townread on hf. then when hf is being lynched he suddenly remembers again, and it's for the same reason that always existed? like, how is that possible? hf wasn't just a townread, either; he was va's most confident townread. i don't think a town!va forgets that, and him trying to use this "i was right on hf" for towncred makes it look even worse. his memory lapse was very convenient, imo Why is clarity on the list? (yes at the end but im sure there is still a reason) eh lol not for reasons much different than truffle's, in all honesty. i think i've mentioned it before, but his reaction and behavior towards hf last day phase after strong townreading him was kinda odd to me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:34 GMT
#8002
On July 19 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:20 rsoultin wrote: On July 19 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote: Just settled at the Starbucks. I have about 90 minutes here before I have to meet the family for brunch. Not digging the BF lynch right now, power reading his nsm10 filter though....Ras I don't get the change in position on BF or did you just change your mind? ....or should I just read.... change in position? you were willing to lynch BF last night and now you say he's a no lynch all game? o.0 lol >< you must have misunderstood. truffle is a no lynch all game for me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#8004
ruxx may actually be town if he really thought you and hf were masons not because neither of you were nkd, but that explains his damned bullheadedness all game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:42 GMT
#8008
On July 19 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote: Skimmed BFs filter nsm10, NOTHING like this game I see the shit tier town game here, not lynching him today. ? i'll admit i only glanced over it to see what truffle was talking about...how are the games so different? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:44 GMT
#8009
On July 19 2015 23:41 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: eh >< fuck it ruxx may actually be town if he really thought you and hf were masons not because neither of you were nkd, but that explains his damned bullheadedness all game I dont think he believed it past like D1 though right? So that shouldnt clear the attitude you disliked for the entire game i dunnae? i have to look at his filter again i guess @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:49 GMT
#8013
On July 19 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2015 23:41 Breshke wrote: On July 19 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: eh >< fuck it ruxx may actually be town if he really thought you and hf were masons not because neither of you were nkd, but that explains his damned bullheadedness all game I dont think he believed it past like D1 though right? So that shouldnt clear the attitude you disliked for the entire game i dunnae? i have to look at his filter again i guess @.@ unless i'm misreading it, he didn't even mention the mason suspicion until n3? where did you get he didn't believe it past d1? lol >< i'd rather not think i've just been ridiculously wrong on all my scumreads but damdy, so if i'm missing something here, please point it out | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 14:56 GMT
#8018
"people voting together d1 must be masons or scum" -pukes in mouth- can you show me what you're talking about in quotes, hts? no reason not to lynch ebh xP @ hts...which kinda answers your question, clarity. though frankly, i'm not going to tell you to vote for someone i'm not scumreading just to get you not to vote for me, so that's a pretty unfair question to begin with lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:02 GMT
#8024
was kinda hoping you were right, frankly meeeeeeeh like even him seeming to make up a read on me makes sense if he's got a reason he's not willing to share to make him think hf is town >< hf pushed on me pretty hard last game when i made up a reason for being suspicious of him to cover that he'd claimed my role and i was trying to get a read on him i dunnae -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:04 GMT
#8025
On July 20 2015 00:01 Clarity_nl wrote: Happy bday btw rsoultin. eh it's monday ^^ i'm 27 in korea | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:05 GMT
#8027
On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that. lol not really sure why this means anything again? you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:14 GMT
#8034
On July 20 2015 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that. lol not really sure why this means anything again? you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread? You think a scum player does? Like you're harping on this a lot but it seems like you're using a dumbtell as a scumtell. And yeah I think drawing unnecessary attention to yourself is more likely to come from town, the same with the bluehunting. Like yeah you name your smurf bluehunter and then roll scum, MAYBE you decide to bluehunt in thread but that just doesnt seem necessary. actually, yes. i've seen scum players completely forget their reads, clarity xP rayn did it in XXX it's not that he forgot it's that he forgot, said hf should be shot, then called him town again for the exact same reason that existed the first time, precisely when hf's wagon was gaining traction, then tried to leverage being right for town cred as for the rest; it's just wifomy. va actually tried to claim masons with me as 3p survivor in carnaval when i was scum xP when all he had to do was claim it d1 (hf even told everyone to or they'd be lynched if they claimed it later) unnecessary, yes, but i wouldn't put it past va and forgetting a read like that but more importantly the timing is a lot stronger than some "but scum wouldn't draw attention to himself" argument. i'd always considered that bluehunting thing pretty nai | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:17 GMT
#8039
On July 20 2015 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:14 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 20 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that. lol not really sure why this means anything again? you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread? You think a scum player does? Like you're harping on this a lot but it seems like you're using a dumbtell as a scumtell. And yeah I think drawing unnecessary attention to yourself is more likely to come from town, the same with the bluehunting. Like yeah you name your smurf bluehunter and then roll scum, MAYBE you decide to bluehunt in thread but that just doesnt seem necessary. actually, yes. i've seen scum players completely forget their reads, clarity xP rayn did it in XXX it's not that he forgot it's that he forgot, said hf should be shot, then called him town again for the exact same reason that existed the first time, precisely when hf's wagon was gaining traction, then tried to leverage being right for town cred as for the rest; it's just wifomy. va actually tried to claim masons with me as 3p survivor in carnaval when i was scum xP when all he had to do was claim it d1 (hf even told everyone to or they'd be lynched if they claimed it later) unnecessary, yes, but i wouldn't put it past va and forgetting a read like that but more importantly the timing is a lot stronger than some "but scum wouldn't draw attention to himself" argument. i'd always considered that bluehunting thing pretty nai This is ebh right? ye, sorry lol >< ebh is va. i guess if i've been wrong on him as the smurf all game the part on carnaval doesn't matter but yeah i've been certain he's va since even before the game started xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:20 GMT
#8042
yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#8046
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote: ... yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ 2 dumb 2 b mafia. except i was losing brain cells just attempting to read the first page of his scum filter? so clearly it's more nuanced than 'making rsoul see red' lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:24 GMT
#8051
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:25 GMT
#8056
On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote: ... yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:26 GMT
#8059
sorry | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#8067
On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote: ... yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote: @27nb What do you think about my last post regarding plots? I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful? Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote: @BF The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum. I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard. Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL. Who are you fairly confident is town? Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote: Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff... ... boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve? ] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote: I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place. @ BF You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please? I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched. I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652 Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well?? eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#8068
On July 20 2015 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Who are those people? What exactly do you mean by wary? Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy? EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. How exactly is bf an easy lynch? Pretty much everyone was calling him town during the night except like ebh who has no pull and rsoul who also has no pull. all too true -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:37 GMT
#8071
On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Who are those people? What exactly do you mean by wary? Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy? EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:40 GMT
#8073
On July 20 2015 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:33 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote: ... yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote: @27nb What do you think about my last post regarding plots? I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful? Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote: @BF The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum. I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard. Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL. Who are you fairly confident is town? Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote: Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff... ... boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve? ] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote: I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place. @ BF You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please? I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched. I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652 Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well?? eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP Like I'm just saying it sounds reasonable. His tone is completely "I hope I don't offend anyone" in that game compared to this one. He doesn't have posts like that in this game at all? ooooooh reasonable like that not reasonable like making a lick of sense hn, maybe. tbf i don't think he risks anything being a dick to me when no one will call him on it anyway, but you may have a point there -_- i'm getting to the point where you kinda have to be scum or one of my townreads is wrong | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:41 GMT
#8076
On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Who are those people? What exactly do you mean by wary? Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy? EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh? step 1: reread the thread since you entered it step 2: remove head from ass step 3: apologize profusely | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:43 GMT
#8082
@ruxx when did you stop thinking that hf/clarity were masons? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:46 GMT
#8089
On July 20 2015 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Who are those people? What exactly do you mean by wary? Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy? EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh? step 1: reread the thread since you entered it step 2: remove head from ass step 3: apologize profusely 2 votes came in the last 5 minutes. 2 votes are not enough to lynch anyone. You dont care enough. ^^ 3 votes are not enough to lynch anyone; you're right i'm not sure on ruxx anymore i don't think i can lynch bf and he's not a stronger scumread than ebh anyway i've been pushing va fairly hard for that read switch since last night phase. you can say i don't care if you want; i say screw you i'm sick and tired of you people saying shit without even verifying wtf it is you're saying why is va town? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:48 GMT
#8093
On July 20 2015 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 20 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Who are those people? What exactly do you mean by wary? Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy? EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh? step 1: reread the thread since you entered it step 2: remove head from ass step 3: apologize profusely 2 votes came in the last 5 minutes. 2 votes are not enough to lynch anyone. You dont care enough. ^^ 3 votes are not enough to lynch anyone; you're right i'm not sure on ruxx anymore i don't think i can lynch bf and he's not a stronger scumread than ebh anyway i've been pushing va fairly hard for that read switch since last night phase. you can say i don't care if you want; i say screw you i'm sick and tired of you people saying shit without even verifying wtf it is you're saying why is va town? va is town because he doesnt give a damn what he looks like. eh there's never any point talking to you, is there? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:53 GMT
#8098
On July 20 2015 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote: rsoul, which point of time did you think hf was town before he flipped? huh? i had a townread on him briefly for picking up that the entirety of truffle's case came from before he said he was townreading ls and pressuring him on it...was scumreading him again when he wrote that case on me that was just complete bs trying to say i was scum for not pushing my scumread and had dropped it cause of marv lol >< which was blatantly false...and his timing seemed particularly opportunistic...plus he'd snipe at me for the hell of it any time i came into thread then i started doubting again after rereading the thread and made that gun play personally i think he was just on tilt and we were in the midst of a huge personality clash, since obviously he flipped town, but then it just seemed like that nitpicking shit he does when he rolls scum :/ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:56 GMT
#8100
On July 18 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far. Confident town reads Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here. Show nested quote + On July 14 2015 07:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Shooting HF would be the best thing to ever happen to this game. 1. maybe he's mafia 2. him and rsoultin cant spam the thread anymore and make me ragequit this game for good 3. has good reads if he's town and it would confirm him dont see any better shots at this point. you have to gamble to win games like this. Show nested quote + On July 15 2015 01:59 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: On July 15 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote: On July 15 2015 01:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I apologize that I'm being scumread by the majority of people, I've been pretty upfront with my thought process and reads. Oh well. If you aren't mafia then you gotta point where people's town reads are wrong. my updated reads list is tier 1 mafia - Kelsier, OWS Tier 2 - tier 3 - Scott, one of rsoultin/HF, Breshke If we are to assume people are starting to pretty much mass jumble the low page filters together, it was only after I saw scott's name being thrown around that my name was subsequently brought up as a replacement. He has quickly been brought into my scum list due to this. Rest ive already talked about, backed off breshke but havent interacted with him since so its pretty old sitting there I expect kelsier to flip mafia Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 04:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: this lynch on hf is 50/50 he could be either alignment easily.i have no idea on this one Show nested quote + On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate. ^^^^^ va's convenient read-change on hf...you forgot? i'll grant that it's possible, but if it is SO GOOD that you're going to hard townread hf over all your reservations precisely when hf is up for lynch, i have a very hard time understanding how you forgot it in the first place not to mention that read is pretty bogus anyway. like lol >< there is really only one good town reason to make the "joke" first post, and that is essentially if you didn't read the OP at all, and frankly even so hf knows that most hosts will post a copy of the vt pm and other pms in the scum qts of games like this...i think he was even one of the people who informed me of that last time in assassination? you think it's natural for vt to seriously claim vt first post? granted, i'm no psyche dude or whatever, but i can tell you for a fact that i am ten times more likely to do it as scum than as town, because in the first case it buys town cred without risking anything, and in the second case it just helps scum poe blues if you're town and this is how you really think and your jimmies are just rustled that i don't think your read is worth anything because i don't expect the majority of people in this game to be too stupid to read an op and go 'oh look, vt is called investigator, i can make a post alluding to that for free town cred!', tough i'd ask you how you forgot your most confident townread based on that flimsy post for several cycles, but frankly there's no response to it i tried to get people to talk about it a lot during the night phase, but as usual you people don't pay me any attention then accuse me of doing nothing but fighting with hf and ruxx all game ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 15:57 GMT
#8101
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#8103
On July 20 2015 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + There is no way you were surprised by the flip though.On July 20 2015 00:53 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote: rsoul, which point of time did you think hf was town before he flipped? huh? i had a townread on him briefly for picking up that the entirety of truffle's case came from before he said he was townreading ls and pressuring him on it...was scumreading him again when he wrote that case on me that was just complete bs trying to say i was scum for not pushing my scumread and had dropped it cause of marv lol >< which was blatantly false...and his timing seemed particularly opportunistic...plus he'd snipe at me for the hell of it any time i came into thread I think its really odd that there isnt a huge shift in your reads and your attitude considering if you were town, you basically made it really difficult for the other townies to play the game. From your filter, your reads arent affected by holyflares flip at all. ?? like this would only make sense as an argument if my reads were associative, and my read on va has everything to do with holyflare's flip? what are you smoking? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#8106
On July 20 2015 01:00 Oatsmaster wrote: ok that happened like 7 days apart, its not a few hours. Bullshit rsoul. Bullshit. excuse me? how is it bullshit? i never said it was a few hours apart? did you even read my argument? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:05 GMT
#8108
On July 20 2015 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 20 2015 00:53 rsoultin wrote: There is no way you were surprised by the flip though.On July 20 2015 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote: rsoul, which point of time did you think hf was town before he flipped? huh? i had a townread on him briefly for picking up that the entirety of truffle's case came from before he said he was townreading ls and pressuring him on it...was scumreading him again when he wrote that case on me that was just complete bs trying to say i was scum for not pushing my scumread and had dropped it cause of marv lol >< which was blatantly false...and his timing seemed particularly opportunistic...plus he'd snipe at me for the hell of it any time i came into thread I think its really odd that there isnt a huge shift in your reads and your attitude considering if you were town, you basically made it really difficult for the other townies to play the game. From your filter, your reads arent affected by holyflares flip at all. ?? like this would only make sense as an argument if my reads were associative, and my read on va has everything to do with holyflare's flip? what are you smoking? What I meant was that immediately after HF flipped, your attitude isnt like you just spent the whole game being completely and utterly wrong about someone. yeah, this is like saying y'all know why i use my emoticons. believe what you want | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:12 GMT
#8111
On July 20 2015 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 01:02 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 01:00 Oatsmaster wrote: ok that happened like 7 days apart, its not a few hours. Bullshit rsoul. Bullshit. excuse me? how is it bullshit? i never said it was a few hours apart? did you even read my argument? Your argument is horrible. "ebh has a very superficial reason to call someone town and therefore when he forgets it a week later and like 2000 posts later, hes mafia. After a shit ton of stuff happened."[spoiler]yes exaggeration for emphasis i mean, come on man. I forget why I scumread people over a matter of hours. I think that its very reasonable to assume that in the week between his first townread on HF, he forgot about the read #1, and he saw the shitshow the thread became and focused on that. Have you never seen town forget that they townread someone a week earlier and nothing in between that? ctrl+f his filter for hf, oats it's not just that he forgot the read what i quoted there was almost all of the quotes he even mentioned hf in up to the read change and he townread him again right when hf was going to be the main wagon for the exact same reason he was townreading him in the first place!! yes i've seen people forget their reads but not like that. and i've seen scum forget their reads like, even disregarding how bs i think that read is to begin with, especially late game (as an early read, whatever) it doesn't make any sense that that one post was so strong to wipe away all va's doubts on hf yet he fucking forgot it until right at that convenient time is it really that hard to understand what i'm saying? -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:14 GMT
#8112
On July 20 2015 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hey wave, trust me, vote rsoul instead of yourself k. ^^ yeah if you're not even going to listen to me i'm gonna do something else when i flip town lynch va grill ruxx hard for something new since i'm still his only townread dunnae about bf cause i don't speak stupid -_- could be clarity. he keeps saying i'm town but is willing to lynch me for poe cause he realizes he's running out of options | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:15 GMT
#8115
On July 20 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hey wave, trust me, vote rsoul instead of yourself k. ^^ yeah if you're not even going to listen to me i'm gonna do something else when i flip town lynch va grill ruxx hard for something new since i'm still his only scumread dunnae about bf cause i don't speak stupid -_- could be clarity. he keeps saying i'm town but is willing to lynch me for poe cause he realizes he's running out of options edited -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:15 GMT
#8117
On July 20 2015 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote: He clearly forgot HF made that post in the first place. And actually that makes even more sense if hes town. Why do that if hes mafia? But if hes town, hes saying what he really thinks. This convenient timing thing is completely bullshit. 100% town or mafia va purposely "switched" their read on hf at a specific time. not what i'm saying | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:16 GMT
#8119
On July 20 2015 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hey wave, trust me, vote rsoul instead of yourself k. ^^ yeah if you're not even going to listen to me i'm gonna do something else when i flip town lynch va grill ruxx hard for something new since i'm still his only townread dunnae about bf cause i don't speak stupid -_- could be clarity. he keeps saying i'm town but is willing to lynch me for poe cause he realizes he's running out of options You just figured that out now? ^^ i have nothing to say to you that won't get me modkilled ^^ xP xP xP xP xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 16:18 GMT
#8125
such astute powers of observation you have | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 20:46 GMT
#8160
On July 20 2015 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On July 20 2015 04:59 Half the Sky wrote: You are so sure that everyone here is town? Everyone here trying to solve the game? You are not convinced of any of the competing cases? ANY???? My logic is this: How do we look past Wave in lylo/mylo if he continues to be a lurky nonentity? I've said this like 50 times and the game is already 400+ pages. I shouldn't have to repeat it but I probably will because nobody seems to understand the concept of not posting every single fucking thing that comes to mind. For somebody pushing me so hard, I wonder why you haven't voted for me yet. For everyone else, ebh or rsoul? apparently you made your choice in secret xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 20:49 GMT
#8162
On July 20 2015 05:10 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + The current biggest three players in the game are you (Half the Sky), rsoultin, and Clarity_nl.On July 20 2015 05:05 Half the Sky wrote: HFs filter = lynch Clarity, Rasputin and me I believe. I am drowning in HFs 45 page filter right now. Fuck my life. All three of you are fairly influential, very hard to lynch, and capable players who are putting effort into solving the game. But, mafia killed Vivax and LightningStrike. Why? Vivax was only recently putting in the same effort that you three were all game long. Vivax was scumreading Clarity_nl, and is a proven player with a good abilities to make accurate reads and push them. LightningStrike was confirmed town. Why kill LightningStrike? To add to town's confusion, to prevent town from having a confirmed town to help base things and keep people sort of together. But if all three of rsoultin, Half the Sky, and Clarity_nl are town, then that's already provided? To me, the scum feels like Clarity_nl. i don't think most people disagree with you, just you know, perhaps on the one of us three is scum xP i dunnae...i don't really buy necessarily that there has to be scum in the three of us. what's your read on ebh? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 20:55 GMT
#8165
On July 20 2015 05:52 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + One of you has to be scum because of how confident, how smooth the two mafia who have flipped have played. If all of the remaining mafia were lurky and scummy, would KelsierSC post like this after being modkilled?On July 20 2015 05:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 05:10 Trfel wrote: On July 20 2015 05:05 Half the Sky wrote: The current biggest three players in the game are you (Half the Sky), rsoultin, and Clarity_nl.HFs filter = lynch Clarity, Rasputin and me I believe. I am drowning in HFs 45 page filter right now. Fuck my life. All three of you are fairly influential, very hard to lynch, and capable players who are putting effort into solving the game. But, mafia killed Vivax and LightningStrike. Why? Vivax was only recently putting in the same effort that you three were all game long. Vivax was scumreading Clarity_nl, and is a proven player with a good abilities to make accurate reads and push them. LightningStrike was confirmed town. Why kill LightningStrike? To add to town's confusion, to prevent town from having a confirmed town to help base things and keep people sort of together. But if all three of rsoultin, Half the Sky, and Clarity_nl are town, then that's already provided? To me, the scum feels like Clarity_nl. i don't think most people disagree with you, just you know, perhaps on the one of us three is scum xP i dunnae...i don't really buy necessarily that there has to be scum in the three of us. what's your read on ebh? Show nested quote + The answer is NEVER to lynch all the scummy people and lurkers, especially in a large game with a ton of posts. There's basically no way that all of the leading posters are town.On July 15 2015 07:15 KelsierSC wrote: sorry whoever got offended by my post gg all was fun -squints- like i agree on that? most likely not every single scum player is going to be lurky, but i'm not sure what ksc's post has to do with that assumption also wave prob scum for that ninja vote ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:00 GMT
#8166
brilliant. i'm not going to keep repeating myself -_- enjoy mylo, scrubs | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:03 GMT
#8169
On July 20 2015 06:01 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + If KelsierSC was playing seriously and putting effort into a game where all of his teammates were lurky and scummy, he would be much more upset over being modkilled. Because from his perspective, that modkill would basically guarantee a town victory. Instead, he seems not too worried about it. I realize there was some time between the modkill and this post, but I think it's still significant.On July 20 2015 05:55 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 05:52 Trfel wrote: On July 20 2015 05:49 rsoultin wrote: One of you has to be scum because of how confident, how smooth the two mafia who have flipped have played. If all of the remaining mafia were lurky and scummy, would KelsierSC post like this after being modkilled?On July 20 2015 05:10 Trfel wrote: On July 20 2015 05:05 Half the Sky wrote: The current biggest three players in the game are you (Half the Sky), rsoultin, and Clarity_nl.HFs filter = lynch Clarity, Rasputin and me I believe. I am drowning in HFs 45 page filter right now. Fuck my life. All three of you are fairly influential, very hard to lynch, and capable players who are putting effort into solving the game. But, mafia killed Vivax and LightningStrike. Why? Vivax was only recently putting in the same effort that you three were all game long. Vivax was scumreading Clarity_nl, and is a proven player with a good abilities to make accurate reads and push them. LightningStrike was confirmed town. Why kill LightningStrike? To add to town's confusion, to prevent town from having a confirmed town to help base things and keep people sort of together. But if all three of rsoultin, Half the Sky, and Clarity_nl are town, then that's already provided? To me, the scum feels like Clarity_nl. i don't think most people disagree with you, just you know, perhaps on the one of us three is scum xP i dunnae...i don't really buy necessarily that there has to be scum in the three of us. what's your read on ebh? On July 15 2015 07:15 KelsierSC wrote: The answer is NEVER to lynch all the scummy people and lurkers, especially in a large game with a ton of posts. There's basically no way that all of the leading posters are town.sorry whoever got offended by my post gg all was fun -squints- like i agree on that? most likely not every single scum player is going to be lurky, but i'm not sure what ksc's post has to do with that assumption also wave prob scum for that ninja vote ^^ ?? that's assuming he cares about winning. he was modkilled for a post he prob would have been modkilled for even if this wasn't a bh game...i mean...lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:05 GMT
#8174
On July 20 2015 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I voted ebh. I don't feel strongly about it. I don't care about this lynch since you people won't lynch who I want to lynch. i'd happily lynch wave with you he and ebh are prob both scum, frankly, after that vote -shrugs- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:21 GMT
#8188
On July 20 2015 06:20 Breshke wrote: He wants to lynch wave because wave will always be a question mark. Also because he should be easier to lynch than he is which isn't a bad reason at all, frankly -_- but why are you switching off me, bresh? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:23 GMT
#8189
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:25 GMT
#8193
On July 20 2015 06:23 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 06:20 Breshke wrote: He wants to lynch wave because wave will always be a question mark. Also because he should be easier to lynch than he is which isn't a bad reason at all, frankly -_- but why are you switching off me, bresh? I have said like all phase I want to lynch you or clarity. I never saw the vicar case before idk how I missed it but yeah it was nice. Why do you care though do you think I'm mafia? cause you've been so lynch rso lynch rso lynch rso since the night phase, so yeah, seems strange you're suddenly on clarity. i thought you'd be happy to get your way xP i dunnae. prob not. it's not impossible, though. you should have to explain yourself just like everyone else | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:27 GMT
#8195
On July 20 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote: So even if ows comes back we need one more and no one is here? more or less | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:29 GMT
#8198
On July 20 2015 06:28 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 06:25 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 06:23 Breshke wrote: On July 20 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 06:20 Breshke wrote: He wants to lynch wave because wave will always be a question mark. Also because he should be easier to lynch than he is which isn't a bad reason at all, frankly -_- but why are you switching off me, bresh? I have said like all phase I want to lynch you or clarity. I never saw the vicar case before idk how I missed it but yeah it was nice. Why do you care though do you think I'm mafia? cause you've been so lynch rso lynch rso lynch rso since the night phase, so yeah, seems strange you're suddenly on clarity. i thought you'd be happy to get your way xP i dunnae. prob not. it's not impossible, though. you should have to explain yourself just like everyone else And do you think I've sounded confident in that read??? Also vivax case tips scales for clarity over you. no i've thought your read was generally pretty baseless, in all honesty xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:32 GMT
#8200
On July 20 2015 06:31 Breshke wrote: Who has said they won't be here I don't remember? I think it was hts and Ruxxar? clarity wasn't going to be here | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:39 GMT
#8206
On July 20 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote: the bloody hell is the vote count, we are still at no lynch? yeah it's gonna be a no-lynch -_- either way we go to mylo tomorrow | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:41 GMT
#8207
On July 20 2015 06:36 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote: On July 20 2015 06:31 Breshke wrote: Who has said they won't be here I don't remember? I think it was hts and Ruxxar? clarity wasn't going to be here Oh that was who. Also you didn't unvote before you voted in thread I believe. And happy birthday heh thanks, i'm a dip lol :/ 27 feels old though, and yeah, it's tomorrow...korean time throws everything off xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:46 GMT
#8215
On July 20 2015 06:45 Trfel wrote: Currently 11 Total Players (8 town, 3 mafia) If mislynch today: Start of Night 5: 7 town, 3 mafia Day 6: 5 town, 3 mafia LYLO If no lynch today: Start of Night 5: 8 town, 3 mafia Day 6: 6 town, 3 mafia MYLO If scum lynch after that: Night 6: 6 town, 2 mafia Day 7: 4 town, 2 mafia LYLO There's really no reason to no lynch today at all, correct? It doesn't actually gain another lynch (except maybe if there's only one mafia left). yeah a no-lynch doesn't gain much :/ basically the only way we're not in mylo tomorrow is if we lynch scum | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:52 GMT
#8228
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 21:59 GMT
#8243
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 19 2015 22:08 GMT
#8254
i'm gonna go do something else i hate to say it, but obi had the right idea >< at least if y'all had killed me, you'd still be in mylo but we wouldn't be discussing all this shit for another 72 hrs | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#8289
On July 20 2015 17:46 boxerfred wrote: I am really sad that there was no lynch on rsoul or clarity. I didn't follow the day phase at all due to real life reasons. Lots of work to do, limiting my time to really look into things. However it is glaringly obvious that rsoul is not town. I want to bring up again that town HF called her out before, and she was basically the one pushing him over the edge. While this is NAI, I really feel like that was scum rsoul trying to lead a mislynch on HF. However investing a second thought into things, I'm kinda sure that HtS' no-lynch is indeed alignment indicative. Especially the "who should I vote for" question is huge. Also, this: Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 06:58 Half the Sky wrote: Swapped my vote to Clarity. ##unvote ##vote clarity Wow! So basically you bold the fact that you completely threw your vote away? 2 Minutes before end? 1 minute before end? Are you seriously expecting an answer? Like you were the one holding the decision. You were in the thread. And then you pull off a no-lynch, trying to imply that you had no idea who to vote on and it was rather accidental than purposeful play? Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 07:08 Half the Sky wrote: Look I got fucked being on mobile. I didn't see VA's last post until it was too late my last change came in at 1800. I honestly want to kill myself. I'm getting mislynched tomorrow. Beyond frustrated right now. This is not a dumbtell and you did not get fucked on mobile. What if both of the rsoultin and bluehunter are scum? Show nested quote + On July 20 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote: No, don't kill Half the Sky. She may be stupid, but she's not scum. If you think that Half the Sky is scum with both rsoultin and XEliteBlueHunter69X, you're a moron. If you don't think that this is true, she could have just voted for the whoever isn't scum. Or more likely, both are town. Why? Why am I a moron for taking this into consideration? I say that it is very possible that both voted people are members of the scum team. So please, please, please explain very thoroughly, for a dumb moron as I am one, why this is not possible. it is glaringly obvious i'm scum for doing something you yourself said was nai? i don't even -_- explain why you were here directly after EoD, which strongly suggests you were lurking the entire time, and content to let a no-lynch happen ^^ and while you're at it, explain your position on me i highly doubt hts is scum - like, from y'all's perspective she could have attempted to save both scummates despite being fine with an ebh lynch (not happy, but fine) earlier, but in doing so completely outed the entire scumteam...which is likely insanely stupid - from mine, there is 100% no reason for her not to hammer me if she's scum. she expressed enough doubt earlier and the decision was entirely up to her. if she's scum with ebh, she still hammers me instead - and i guess if y'all keep insisting i could be scum -_- the same goes for ebh. if hts and i are scum together, she just hammers ebh like, if she's scum here, it's an unnecessary play to frame both ebh and myself that yeah, could win them the game but they'd have to be in a terrible position, i feel, to be in a place to need to do that? like all the people you'd look into lynching after i flipped town would have to be scum for that to be worth it, and i don't think that hts herself was scumread enough for that to be true? she's probably town here...stupid to try to lead shenanigans on a phone, but town -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 13:10 GMT
#8290
clarity/wave/bf it's a bit wifomy, but i really don't see ebh as a stupid enough player to allow himself to get lynched as scum just to protect scummate clarity...because clarity almost definitely is the next phase's lynch if he flips scum heh >< and there's really no other scum-motivated explanation for his play last phase i'd like to call oats scum but he's probably just dumb town -_- and anyway, he's never around for EoD because of where he lives bresh is town for not just hammering me, and obi...prob is town because i'm having a hard time seeing wave as town at this point and that's all he's been pushing for ages lol >< already said why i think hts is town, and i'm still pretty sure truffle is town so that just leaves ruxx...if i'm wrong on one of clarity/wave/bf, he's prob the last scum @ruxx...i really need you to explain your masons thought process to me and when you thought they were no longer masons @everyone else...if he doesn't, ask for me so he does -_- thanks | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 14:21 GMT
#8292
Independent of that, though, claiming before mylo is risky You know, if you're determined to tunnel me, just do what you usually do and call me scum repeatedly instead of trying to poke holes where there are none...you're making yourself look ridiculous -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 14:24 GMT
#8293
On July 20 2015 23:21 rsoultin wrote: Excuse me? It makes perfect sense. If bresh is scum fakeclaiming he has no reason to come back right before eod and try to lynch clarity. We go to mylo and he prob doesn't even get questioned about it much Independent of that, though, claiming before mylo is risky You know, if you're determined to tunnel me, just do what you usually do and call me scum repeatedly instead of trying to poke holes where there are none...you're making yourself look ridiculous -_- Edited out the autocorrects @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 17:30 GMT
#8307
On July 20 2015 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: rsoul, this is the post that breshke posted just before switching to clarity Thats hardly a huge investment, and if you and clarity are both town, mafia would prefer to lynch clarity here. So, no, breshke is totally not town for his eod actions. yeah, i don't care what you think? i know i'm town. i know that if he was scum there was no reason for him to come in wanting to lynch someone else; he could have just left his vote where it was and lynched me that simple. you have to look at it from my perspective, and i don't really care if you don't agree with me or not since you're not convinced i'm town, but there's nothing wrong with my read On July 21 2015 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah, Ive never seen mafia be there for eod, not post, and post immediately after complaining about the lynch. Doesnt happen, + no gains for mafia. one of my newbies (forget which one) gumdrop did exactly this. he was scum. last scum game, carnaval, bunnies did exactly this. she was scum. she also basically outed ff by the play so obviously it happens xP the more relevant point is bf is dumb or scum to actually be here at EoD and just let a no-lynch happen. even if he's too newbie to understand how bad a no-lynch was last phase (which i find unlikely given his reaction afterwards) truffle had already spelled it out and bf even admits to being here during that time so should have seen that post On July 21 2015 00:15 Breshke wrote: rsoultin i would have hammered you but also being on the phone i didnt think HTs was going to actually do what she did. hammered was the wrong word. i meant that if you were scum you would have just lynched me instead of coming back in and trying to get a different lynch lol >< i wouldn't have blamed a soul for hammering me to prevent a no-lynch. that's an entirely different beast | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 17:31 GMT
#8308
On July 21 2015 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 00:19 Breshke wrote: On July 21 2015 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 21 2015 00:15 Breshke wrote: rsoultin i would have hammered you but also being on the phone i didnt think HTs was going to actually do what she did. i think trusting another player with sole responsibility for a lynch is just a really bad idea in general. I wasn't? I wanted to lynch EBH not rsoultin. Obviously when there is only 6 people around and we need to have exactly 6 people to vote i have to trust everyone? Even if i had switched to rsoul i would have had to trust all of those people not to switch. Er, no? Like 4 afk people were on rsoul, like nobody was coming off her to lynch ebh. This is pointless anyway. You think wave is mafia? we had 6 on ebh...do you even pay attention to what you're saying? hts switched off him when we had 6 on ebh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 17:40 GMT
#8309
On July 20 2015 23:59 boxerfred wrote: blablabla rsoultin I was there half an hour eod because I thought "well let's check mafia before bed real quick" and I instantly regret that decision. gogo ml me already so the game is over, not gonna say much more than "lynch between rsoul/clarity/hts". over and out. we have no mislynches left, in part because you were too busy pretending to be afk ^^ at the very least you have to narrow rsoul/clarity/hts down to one with reasons and then attempt to give us more than one scumread unless you think we're all the scum team? lol >< i want your reads on everyone left in the game, bf...and if you won't give them to me, i'll just ask someone who you will actually talk to to keep pestering you for them | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 17:52 GMT
#8312
On July 21 2015 02:48 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well there's no point in dying if the game ends so maybe ill attempt to try and not die yeeeeah...do you disagree with anything on my reads list? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 17:54 GMT
#8313
On July 21 2015 02:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote: On July 21 2015 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 21 2015 00:19 Breshke wrote: On July 21 2015 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 21 2015 00:15 Breshke wrote: rsoultin i would have hammered you but also being on the phone i didnt think HTs was going to actually do what she did. i think trusting another player with sole responsibility for a lynch is just a really bad idea in general. I wasn't? I wanted to lynch EBH not rsoultin. Obviously when there is only 6 people around and we need to have exactly 6 people to vote i have to trust everyone? Even if i had switched to rsoul i would have had to trust all of those people not to switch. Er, no? Like 4 afk people were on rsoul, like nobody was coming off her to lynch ebh. This is pointless anyway. You think wave is mafia? we had 6 on ebh...do you even pay attention to what you're saying? hts switched off him when we had 6 on ebh And? I assume breshke was talking about all those people on rsoul not to switch. alright. this makes sense, but it's also pointless to even discuss. no one expected hts to switch to clarity and then not switch back in time -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 18:20 GMT
#8315
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 19:14 GMT
#8318
On July 21 2015 04:07 ruXxar wrote: Not sure how we managed to get a no-lynch there /facepalm. I'm mostly disappointed in breshke for switching off rsoultin when we had 6 on her. Rsoultin is pretty much confirmed scum since she didn't get hammered by mafia, it was the easiest hammer ever if scum wanted a mis-lynch. Only way rsoul is town here is if all 3 mafia are already voting for her. The fact she doesn't seem aware of this and includes someone outside the vote on her in her scumteam(clarity) makes me even more certain. clarity said he was fine with lynching me even though he thought i was town cuz poe and said he wouldn't be here for EoD anyway and frankly, with everyone trying to switch to him, he prob would have hammered me as either alignment try again, ruxx ^^ now please answer my question...and who else is scum? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 19:15 GMT
#8319
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 19:20 GMT
#8321
yeah someone else ask him questions. i'm not putting up with the stupid any longer - explain his mason reads and the timeline - why wasn't he here? - what are his reads on people other than me? i'm out -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 20 2015 20:35 GMT
#8329
ruxx, an exercise! \o/ pretend i'm town for a short while who is scum? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 03:00 GMT
#8345
but i think that whatever we do today, we need as many of us on the same page as possible? i also could probably be convinced to lynch ruxx if there's a good reason not to lynch one of those three...problem with ruxx is i just want to lynch him on principle for tunneling me so hard all game and i don't think that's a good enough reason -_- heh | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 11:13 GMT
#8356
not really? ruxx's argument was that scum should have hammered me if i were town? all truffle is saying is there's actually not a huge incentive for scum to do that over a no-lynch case and point: ows...had he been any sooner you would have lynched me yesterday regardless, your scumteam doesn't work, clarity. you seem to be running out of scumreads lol >< you're saying that i would deliberately divert attention onto ebh if we're both scum...or that wave would hammer me if we're both scum (have you not caught up yet)? like legitimately the only way this works is if ebh, wave and i are all scum which is one heck of a shit show but not technically impossible, except for my role pm xP you think bf is still town after he was lurking and letting a no-lynch happen? i don't see how you can look at yesterday's lynch and come to these conclusions, frankly, and unlike bf you're a pretty rational player | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 11:22 GMT
#8357
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 11:53 GMT
#8360
you guys keep telling me this is a town bf? like, seriously? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 12:21 GMT
#8364
but i'll be around this evening. bueno i really, really want reads with explanations from: - clarity - bf - wave (lol i know how likely this is ><) - ruxx but as i stand now, i'm probably going to be voting clarity | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 14:03 GMT
#8376
On July 21 2015 21:58 Clarity_nl wrote: This game is so fucked in so many ways. We lose the game if one of the following is scum: Oats HtS WoS HtS So let me just focus on the rest. Apparently people are reading EBH's martyr as town. Can someone explain this? Because for his martyr to make sense as scum he would have to be protecting you and even though I think you're scum I think he'ssmart enough to realize that if he doesn't vote you to save himself and then flips scum, we lynch you next phase anyway. Best scum play there is to just lynch his scummate. There's like absolutely no scum motivation for him not to lynch you otherwise. Do you disagree? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 14:12 GMT
#8379
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 14:39 GMT
#8382
On July 21 2015 23:12 Clarity_nl wrote: You didn't scumread me yesterday rsoul, what changed? Townreading most of the rest of the game? I've got it narrowed down to four. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 14:44 GMT
#8385
On July 21 2015 23:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote: On July 21 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote: On July 21 2015 21:58 Clarity_nl wrote: This game is so fucked in so many ways. We lose the game if one of the following is scum: Oats HtS WoS HtS So let me just focus on the rest. Apparently people are reading EBH's martyr as town. Can someone explain this? Because for his martyr to make sense as scum he would have to be protecting you and even though I think you're scum I think he'ssmart enough to realize that if he doesn't vote you to save himself and then flips scum, we lynch you next phase anyway. Best scum play there is to just lynch his scummate. There's like absolutely no scum motivation for him not to lynch you otherwise. Do you disagree? So what's the town motivation exactly? Why can't he be scum that knows I'll get lynched afterwards when he flips red? NVM he could just lynch me instead, gotcha now. I agree EBH is town. Yeah sorry didn't see your post. And ye, as scum lynching you is always the best option regardless of your alignment, and i'm gonna feel dumb if he's scum here, but I doubt it. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 14:46 GMT
#8386
On July 21 2015 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 21 2015 23:12 Clarity_nl wrote: You didn't scumread me yesterday rsoul, what changed? Townreading most of the rest of the game? I've got it narrowed down to four. did you or anyone really townread ows? Cause I think its really weird he got killed. I've been townreading him most of the game? Looked into hf's thing some but it didn't seem that strong | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 17:40 GMT
#8414
On July 22 2015 02:34 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll vote sometimes tomorrow I guess. Reads would be nice -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 17:45 GMT
#8415
On July 21 2015 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2015 23:46 rsoultin wrote: On July 21 2015 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 21 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 21 2015 23:12 Clarity_nl wrote: You didn't scumread me yesterday rsoul, what changed? Townreading most of the rest of the game? I've got it narrowed down to four. did you or anyone really townread ows? Cause I think its really weird he got killed. I've been townreading him most of the game? Looked into hf's thing some but it didn't seem that strong you scumread rux right? Succint reasons why he is mafia please. Cause im not seeing it. He's basically had one scumread all game since d1 based on what I presume was a mason read...which explains the initial scumread but not the rigidity since or complete lack of any other scumreads that aren't associative | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 17:49 GMT
#8416
On July 22 2015 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote: scumteam is gonna end up wos/trfel/rsoultin or something and I guess that's fine. I was kinda looking forward to do some analysis tonight but I just got reminded that I'm never gonna change bf's mind so there's no point. I don't understand this mentality? If you think i'm scum and bf is voting for me as it is why would you just give up here? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 18:00 GMT
#8418
On July 22 2015 02:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote: On July 22 2015 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote: scumteam is gonna end up wos/trfel/rsoultin or something and I guess that's fine. I was kinda looking forward to do some analysis tonight but I just got reminded that I'm never gonna change bf's mind so there's no point. I don't understand this mentality? If you think i'm scum and bf is voting for me as it is why would you just give up here? yeah pretty much, if clarity is town, we lose. But he doesnt give 2 shits. Ye. I'll vote when I get out of lab @.@ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 21:42 GMT
#8464
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 21:44 GMT
#8466
On July 22 2015 06:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2015 06:42 rsoultin wrote: yo, clar, so if you're town you know the game's already fucked, right? heh -_- Ye. If you're town I'm sorry. If you're scum you can die in a grease fire. I think you played well either way, nothing personal apart from the obvious being that we'd have a town v. town wagon if you're town and scum is laughing their asses off, your refusal to do any work isn't helping -shrugs- though if you want to snipe at ebh instead, be my guest | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 22:15 GMT
#8469
On July 22 2015 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm pretty confident hts is town, so if we're both town then yeah scum is probably cackling, but honestly I feel most of town just kinda handed it to them. I'd be pretty impressed if hts is scum. Honestly though I don't see how doing any work at this point will get us anywhere. If it's a town on town wagon we can't win the game anyway. I think I played ok this game. You? lol people want to lynch me for scumreading/fighting with hf is essentially what it comes down to so yeah, i think i've played alright this game...apart from that :/ i dunnae if i'd play it any differently? it's not like i tried to fight with him lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 22:17 GMT
#8470
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 22:22 GMT
#8472
On July 22 2015 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Rsoul you're another one of those players tha probably shouldn't be alive. Makes more sense to be you than clarity. 'cause this worked so well last time "hf you shouldn't be alive" "doh!" "rsoul, you shouldn't be alive even though flipped town!hf said you were scum and dumb townies want to sheep it" "doh!" -_- | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 21 2015 22:29 GMT
#8474
On July 22 2015 07:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 22 2015 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm pretty confident hts is town, so if we're both town then yeah scum is probably cackling, but honestly I feel most of town just kinda handed it to them. I'd be pretty impressed if hts is scum. Honestly though I don't see how doing any work at this point will get us anywhere. If it's a town on town wagon we can't win the game anyway. I think I played ok this game. You? lol people want to lynch me for scumreading/fighting with hf is essentially what it comes down to so yeah, i think i've played alright this game...apart from that :/ i dunnae if i'd play it any differently? it's not like i tried to fight with him lol >< Nah I think you looked townie from the fights with hf (I realize I've changed my opinion on this often). I mean, I think you're probably capable of playing a good scumgame. Are you scum this game? Ugh, honestly it's hard to tell, take it as a compliment. If I had to put money on it I'd say you're town, although that's on your play alone, when it comes to poe... it's a toss up. yeah by people i guess i mean everyone voting for me but you...and apparently wave :/ i can't say much. you're poe for me, too, and i see what viva was getting at with his case, plus...well you know, you just haven't been around much since the hf cycle -shrugs- most of the other players i'm townreading have been putting in a ton of work in that time. i hope you're scum! lol >< no offense | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 05:07 GMT
#8492
On July 22 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + But why would she want to pocket me when I made it clear that I wasn't going to play the game, when she knows that I am ridiculously lazy as town, and I was looking like one of the best vigilante shots?On July 22 2015 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 22 2015 12:28 Trfel wrote: On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote: I really hope that rsoultin is town Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin? Why is your alignment linked to rsoul? The dma thing? I dont think its alignment indicative. giving townreads as mafia is a thing that happens. she did it to pocket you. Thats a decent reasom/ in all honesty, probably xP though "pocket" may not be the right word, i'm capable of doing most of the things i do as town as scum eh...there's not a ton to say anymore? the only people on me are the ones who aren't interested in talking to me, or have no vested interest to do so, being the other wagon. clarity's probably scum but even if he's not, unless we could get a mass shift onto scum, it doesn't matter as a sidenote...i dunnae about bf anymore lol >< i have a hard time comprehending a good number of his posts coming from town, but an equally hard time comprehending some of them coming from scum, so it's just eeeeeh for me | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 05:22 GMT
#8495
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 12:54 GMT
#8510
On July 22 2015 21:41 Clarity_nl wrote: Well this is boring. There was a little spark of hope there, oh well. Trfel I dunno how you can say "why would rsoultin pocket me since I was gonna be afk all game" which is actually the BEST reason to pocket you since you'll be around at lylo. rsoultin: Do you really think bf fakes TWO dumbtells this game? He had no idea how scum kp worked. If I'm right about anything this game it's that bf is town. ? i had him as scum and now i'm saying i'm not so sure cause some of his posting doesn't look like it could come from scum? i'm not sure why you're pursuing this, anyway, clarity; unless i'm wrong on one of my townreads, and i don't think i am, that just makes the scumteam you, wave and ruxx if you're really town here, you have to show me which of my townreads i'm wrong on, not try to defend a scumread i'm already doubting is scum lol >< ruxx...what are you even basing your reads on? random voting theories? are you considering anyone's play at all, because i really don't understand this read change of yours when you've been so certain i'm scum practically all game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 13:22 GMT
#8515
On July 22 2015 21:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't think it matters much rsoultin. I don't think either of us can divert the lynch away from us two. I'm just pointing out the bf thing cause I saw you go "I'm not sure about bf" when he should be townread. I suspect that you are wrong about trfel, for what it's worth. I agree on your questioning of ruxx, too tbh if bf is town this game, which no it wouldn't really surprise me at this point, unfortunately, he's going to end up in my pile of townplayers who...eh a nice way to say this ><...should be read but then ignored, i guess if you really think truffle is scum, make a case on him? i'll try to read it before EoD, but frankly, it would have to be a killer case cause i'm pretty sure i'm right on him i'm more interested in why ruxx suddenly switched, and it makes me think you're more likely to be scum and he's just looking for a reason to buss you now that it's very likely he's not going to get a mislynch on me heh >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 14:09 GMT
#8518
I would lynch you, ruxx or wave today. I've been clear on all my reads and why. I'm not as certain on bf as you but I think he's less likely to flip scum than the other three. My townread on truffle is based on knowing how he thinks and knowing for a fact.that he can't replicate that thought process as scum. I've played in almost every game he has and i've had an early read on him since like our 3Rd/4th game together But frankly if your case can't compete with my toneread it means you have a weak-ass case, especially when i've been skinhead so much this game | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 14:31 GMT
#8522
On July 22 2015 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote: The problem with your read rsoul is that you and trfel are both mafia, nobody can verify what you are talking about. That's what's been bugging me actually. And trfel has been super scummy other than the part where he bitched about out of game stuff. ? seriously? This whole line of reasoning is such a cop out. I'm not preventing anyone from getting.g their own reads on truffle and there's nothing that says I can't me wrong on him even if i'm usually not anymore than there's anything that would prevent me from townreading him if I were scum regardless of his alignment Are you incapable of thinking for yourselves? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 14:33 GMT
#8523
On July 22 2015 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote: Lol...well that case isn't really a case, is it? I would lynch you, ruxx or wave today. I've been clear on all my reads and why. I'm not as certain on bf as you but I think he's less likely to flip scum than the other three. My townread on truffle is based on knowing how he thinks and knowing for a fact.that he can't replicate that thought process as scum. I've played in almost every game he has and i've had an early read on him since like our 3Rd/4th game together But frankly if your case can't compete with my toneread it means you have a weak-ass case, especially when i've been skinhead so much this game Not that I mind but you really are talking to me like I'm town. Just want to point it out to anyone who still cares. Lol not sure how you're getting that and i'm talking to you like I could be wrong and don't want to lose today regardless. But whatever. Flail around and continue to point out things that mean nothing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:06 GMT
#8543
I don't see how you're sitting here on your hands when both of your worlds have wave and truffle as scum. Like, according to your logic the only reason to stay on me is association that doesn't even work that well and you and one of your scumreads are the only ones voting me. Why aren't you trying to get wave or truffle lynched? For being "town" you are far too content to do basically nothing this cycle. There's nothing preventing you from starting a new wagon on someone you're more convinced is scum, but you're not | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:09 GMT
#8548
Show me how i'm wrong on him | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:11 GMT
#8549
On July 23 2015 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote: I don't see how you can possibly think i'm scum with wave when he hammered me last phase and the only reason I wasn't lynched was breshke switched off I don't see how you're sitting here on your hands when both of your worlds have wave and truffle as scum. Like, according to your logic the only reason to stay on me is association that doesn't even work that well and you and one of your scumreads are the only ones voting me. Why aren't you trying to get wave or truffle lynched? For being "town" you are far too content to do basically nothing this cycle. There's nothing preventing you from starting a new wagon on someone you're more convinced is scum, but you're not last phase wasnt lylo. And? Are you reading ebh scum? Cause otherwise this is retarded ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:38 GMT
#8561
On July 23 2015 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote: On July 23 2015 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 23 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote: I don't see how you can possibly think i'm scum with wave when he hammered me last phase and the only reason I wasn't lynched was breshke switched off I don't see how you're sitting here on your hands when both of your worlds have wave and truffle as scum. Like, according to your logic the only reason to stay on me is association that doesn't even work that well and you and one of your scumreads are the only ones voting me. Why aren't you trying to get wave or truffle lynched? For being "town" you are far too content to do basically nothing this cycle. There's nothing preventing you from starting a new wagon on someone you're more convinced is scum, but you're not last phase wasnt lylo. And? Are you reading ebh scum? Cause otherwise this is retarded ^^ So mafia could bus for cred. why? yes this is true, but why when mafia can get a mislynch and preserve 2kp for at least two more cycles? it's moot anyway because i'm town -_- look, clarity, if you've got a good reason i'll consider it? I know not infallible, but thus far all you've really said is his activity picked up when you had him in your scumreads? so? why couldn't he do that as town? why is it scummy now but him still not doing much early game despite the.scumreads not being considered? you said he didn't have a town mindset...which posts are you talking about? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:42 GMT
#8565
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 17:45 GMT
#8569
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 21:12 GMT
#8615
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 21:16 GMT
#8617
On July 23 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote: No, got lazy. Honestly game is over. Come play voice! lol already there ^^ so many invites xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 21:18 GMT
#8619
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:13 GMT
#8680
ows, if you think my normal play is nonsensical you just don't understand where my head is at there are pretty good indicators for my being scum...but "nonsensical" posting isn't one of them...hf's later case on me was good. his initial one was shit and made it easy to take advantage of because he was obviously not paying attention to/manipulating the context anywho, gg everyone, and i'm so happy this is over lol >< also, sorry clar...i'd love to play with you when we're both town. you made me feel awfully guilty (hts too) with a lot of your posts this game lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#8683
On July 23 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote: also my first dumbtell was completely on purpose tbh, really wanted to try that. was kinda happy it worked. second dumbtell however was tired boxerfred forgetting that 9 not 8 are alive. yeah it felt a little off, frankly. not that it mattered given...i was scum and knew you were town xP more seriously, bf, when you bother to write out your thoughts and really think them through, you've got some pretty good ideas, but it gets lost in all these weird things you say o.0 which makes you easy to push | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#8685
On July 23 2015 07:14 Half the Sky wrote: The thing is, even if the meta read made sense, WoS just throwing the votes on people without considering context just was bad but I didn't know how to articulate it to convince enough people. i wasn't going to be "around" to vote wave when we had the game in the bag xP but you're 100% right wave was super scummy toward the end and i'm surprised more people didn't jump on him for it | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:19 GMT
#8688
On July 23 2015 07:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote: lol >> ows, if you think my normal play is nonsensical you just don't understand where my head is at there are pretty good indicators for my being scum...but "nonsensical" posting isn't one of them...hf's later case on me was good. his initial one was shit and made it easy to take advantage of because he was obviously not paying attention to/manipulating the context anywho, gg everyone, and i'm so happy this is over lol >< also, sorry clar...i'd love to play with you when we're both town. you made me feel awfully guilty (hts too) with a lot of your posts this game lol >< Haha, honestly that was the point. I was trying to guilt people in lynching you over me. I think you played well, I got super frustrated as I KNEW that I wouldn't be able to convince bf that I was town no matter how hard I worked yeah bf was a bit needlessly stubborn. there's almost never going to be three super active mafia players when there are only three on the team? it's possible, if all of us are known for being very active and we're trying to stay active for that reason, but yeah | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:20 GMT
#8689
On July 23 2015 07:18 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: On July 23 2015 07:14 Half the Sky wrote: The thing is, even if the meta read made sense, WoS just throwing the votes on people without considering context just was bad but I didn't know how to articulate it to convince enough people. i wasn't going to be "around" to vote wave when we had the game in the bag xP but you're 100% right wave was super scummy toward the end and i'm surprised more people didn't jump on him for it I started to get worried due to OGI - I knew you were in ts3 playing voice mafia but I thought I'd be breaking the rules if I mentioned that. lol i could have just been distracted by the game xP i've done that before, too and nah i'm pretty sure you could have said it...not to mention it was in the thread already that that's what i was doing | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:22 GMT
#8692
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 22:48 GMT
#8711
On July 23 2015 07:34 justanothertownie wrote: Trfel wtf man. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 07-22-2015 10:00 AM ET (US) Why would scum defend a scummy townie? Seriously? Didn't I say that this is exactly what rsoultin does as mafia multiple times? Everyone said there is mafia between HF and rsoul before they died and when HF makes you lynch him and tells you to kill her you people just ignore it. Of course she defends scummy townies - it is literally what she does. And of course she attacks towny looking teammates like ruxxar. you're wrong on this xP i townread truffle when i'm scum because i townread him when i'm town i've gotten his alignment wrong once in like 10 games...maybe more i don't need him tunneling me all game because he believes i won't get his alignment wrong as town it actually is that simple lol >< not pocketing. simply "pretending to be town" frankly, you haven't had enough experience with my scum games to have an accurate measure on how i play them | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:02 GMT
#8715
Hf and bresh had the best reads on me...but they were highly subjective which is why they didn't get far | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:19 GMT
#8723
>> truffle townreading me cause i was townreading him >> clarity townreading wave cause wave was townreading him yup yup truffle should know better, though. me correctly townreading him is completely nai...i've done this to him before lol >< also, jat, the reason i keep arguing with you is you're going to sit here and try to mislynch me if you keep insisting that my reads are tmi...i frequently make strange reads as town that people can't follow because i'm using different criteria than everyone else. i kept referencing back to himalayas just cause it's the most recent example, but i can't tell you how often i spend yelling about this read or that while no one pays attention when i'm town lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:22 GMT
#8729
"tmi" on truffle - he was scum then xP and being the only one townreading bresh who was town, but everyone seemed to think was scum so yeah. there probably is a distinction i'm not aware of, but it's certainly not as simplistic as you make it out to be, jat | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:23 GMT
#8730
On July 23 2015 08:22 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: moral of the story girls are unlynchable xP lol hardly hf and i are hard to lynch because we make a lot of noise and usually make at least some sense. it is really that simple | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:25 GMT
#8733
On July 23 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: Nah this was completely different town reading. You may think otherwise but it's different. probably, doesn't make jat's argument any better though ^^ tbf my case on you was a distinct departure from my townplay and was simply cause i felt insulted lol >< i was over it like...within a day or two but you were still on tilt and digging yourself a bigger hole? once you calmed down your play (and reads) improved drastically | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:26 GMT
#8736
On July 23 2015 08:24 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: On July 23 2015 08:22 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: moral of the story girls are unlynchable xP lol hardly hf and i are hard to lynch because we make a lot of noise and usually make at least some sense. it is really that simple if thats what helps you sleep at night xP xD >< i've been lynched/conceded hts has more than once i think? bunnies always gets lynched but blame it on the ovaries if you like? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:29 GMT
#8740
On July 23 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 08:22 Clarity_nl wrote: Holyflare you kinda pissed me off with your martyring and I feel like I coulda stopped your lynch so for what it's worth I'm sorry about that. yes well like i said, there was an incredible amount of out of game stuff happening, I could have also stopped my own lynch but there would be no way i could continue to play in this game a few more cycles with the way things were going and figured it was best to get me out of the way so you could actually see that rsoultin was mafia.......................................... still following a policy because you didn't like the things i was doing when you were hard town reading me was silly and that's on you agreed, and it was a huge part of what made you lynchable, clar | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:32 GMT
#8748
On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point. You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^ :/ you make me sad, va i like playing with you. it's really sad that of the last 3 games we've played together i've been mafia in 2 of them...i get that some of this is coming from the fact that i should have been lynched over you in carnaval, and i agree with that 100%, but eh, i'm going to use what's available to me and unfortunately your style of play leaves you very open to being pushed for a mislynch you could easily have voted for me this day phase. you chose not to. such is life | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#8750
On July 23 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote: Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all: Show nested quote + HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-21-2015 01:19 PM ET (US) Edit Delete like seriously nobody even reads games anymore or looks at post in the context of the thread, that's why they all play like shit and think things look good when they read filters there have been 0 cases from townies on anyone in this entire game since vivax and myself died 0 you know how fucking stupid that is? they tried to lynch va yesterday for no reason, they are lynching clarity today for no reason that anyone has explained, nobody is playing mafia they are just saying other people are mafia hf said something brilliant and i blustered to bury it he asked me what i'd done this game that is how to catch me...above everything else yes, i'd posted a lot, yes i'd made reads and pushed things, but i hadn't actually done anything that was pushing town forward. it's a subtlety that isn't obvious just filter-diving and it's more tone/timing breshke made a similar comment about me doing nothing but fighting with ruxx and hf...objectively that wasn't true and wouldn't stand up to review. subjectively, the reason people could only remember that was because of again tone/timing they were very very right but those sorts of reads are practically impossible to push? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 22 2015 23:40 GMT
#8753
On July 23 2015 08:37 Breshke wrote: I'll take the blame fairly heavily for this one I should have just kept sleeping HF that day and left my vote on Rsoultin. Also idc what you say Ras but the not leaving legacy reads is so legit still hahah. Also I think the 1/2 shot rolls are a really good mechanic lolol yeah if town hadn't outed all their roles we probably would have been roflstomped (and yes, bresh >> my problem with legacies is it really is a natural extension of when i feel i'm going to be nkd rather than something i just /do/ so they slip past me when i'm scum more than they should xP that is an objective way to read me that will be true most of the time and i wouldn't blame anyone for mislynching me for not doing it >< even if it makes me do more work lol) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:11 GMT
#8763
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#8768
On July 23 2015 09:14 Clarity_nl wrote: I think a towngame with damdred, kelsier and/or rsoultin would be sweet. Not gonna play in down under guys? signed up but i'm kind of anticipating those fear!reads lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:24 GMT
#8770
and he has a read on someone i don't read well i just sheep him ^^ he's pretty damn good with some of the players i'm bad with lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:27 GMT
#8773
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:28 GMT
#8774
On July 23 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote: Granted I'm easy to tr as town. Ask anyone lol they've stopped scumreading you all the time? xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:34 GMT
#8777
On July 23 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote: Negative, for whatever reason you Geript have amazing reads on me now. I'm a newb: ( lol eh, it's one of my "tonereads" that i'm gonna get mislynched for again eventually i prefer to call them personality reads but people like to argue with me ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:40 GMT
#8784
On July 23 2015 09:35 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 08:25 Blazinghand wrote: In general, spam is a problem. There's no real way to deal with it short of policy lynching people who make a big mess in the thread. Also, people who play like WoS played. WoS played brilliantly, but that tactic shouldn't work haha. Also yeah no way I was gonna modkill WoS when he made so many posts On July 23 2015 08:22 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: moral of the story girls are unlynchable xP Did you get what you wanted out of smurfing this game? It seems like things ended up as a pretty decent shitshow. Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point. You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^ 4 srs who is this guy? Now I am really intrigued dude it's va? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:42 GMT
#8786
On July 23 2015 09:36 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 09:34 rsoultin wrote: On July 23 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote: Negative, for whatever reason you Geript have amazing reads on me now. I'm a newb: ( lol eh, it's one of my "tonereads" that i'm gonna get mislynched for again eventually i prefer to call them personality reads but people like to argue with me ^^ Yeah I will just lynch you for unexplained tonereads for the rest of my life. There was honestly not much redeeming in trfel's filter. Like I realize apparently you do this a lot but I'm sure that normally you manage to at least explain your read lol well you'll have to judge it for yourself, cause hf and jat both seem to think there's a difference but i'm usually shit at explaining it xP it's not an "objective" read and traditionally that's hard for people to understand | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:43 GMT
#8788
On July 23 2015 09:41 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote: On July 23 2015 09:35 Alakaslam wrote: On July 23 2015 08:25 Blazinghand wrote: In general, spam is a problem. There's no real way to deal with it short of policy lynching people who make a big mess in the thread. Also, people who play like WoS played. WoS played brilliantly, but that tactic shouldn't work haha. Also yeah no way I was gonna modkill WoS when he made so many posts On July 23 2015 08:22 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: moral of the story girls are unlynchable xP Did you get what you wanted out of smurfing this game? It seems like things ended up as a pretty decent shitshow. On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point. You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^ 4 srs who is this guy? Now I am really intrigued dude it's va? HAH! See I am not reading the thread though, how was it supposed o be obvious? lol va is very distinctive. so is jat. i'm not sure why they bothered with smurfs ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:43 GMT
#8789
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:51 GMT
#8792
On July 23 2015 09:47 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 07:23 LightningStrike wrote: Lol I Was 2/3 right on the scum team after the mod kill honestly I guess Geript can't tone read WoS anymore lol. The tone read was wrong but it was for good reasons. It wasn't until after I died that Wave became obvious. Imo, town fell apart for a few different reasons: 1. Unnecessary claims--Seriously, stop fucking claiming. Just stop. 2. Not thinking through lynches or their results. After the MZ vig shot, it should've been a wake up call that the Damdred/MZ/Milo world didn't exist. Considering I specifically made the point that milo could be town because of how milo/Damdred aligned. I specifically pointed out that he's constantly posting albeit poorly imo made him more likely to be town. No on analyzed the no lynch which btw would've given you 2/3 of the scum left. So the problem is people not thinking. 3. The setup. 2 role blockers vs 6 roles (5 of which are limited) is bad imo. I love the idea of this setup but town was pretty weak comparatively. Plus DML is really bad for big games. i can see why town might think this but without the unnecessary claims where only 1 in 4 of the town players are blue roles and we don't even know how many exist, especially with the way wave/damdy/and myself were playing (ripe for blue role action if the players are using their roles correctly) the two rbs would be negligible. assuming that we always rb blue roles that's still 4 who are acting with impunity, so depending on how good their decision-making is, scum could have been wrecked pretty easily by this setup i think the balance was alright? the first response we had to seeing 2 rbs was "damn the blue roles are gonna be a pain this game" and yeah...played correctly without all the claims...they would have been | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:58 GMT
#8795
personally i'm not sure how good shenanigans actually are in a majority lynch? and people really need to stop with assumptions about resistance to lynches. i've capitalized on those assumptions near lylo in 2-3 of my scum games. doubt is normal but it's not as strong a heuristic as people think | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 00:58 GMT
#8796
On July 23 2015 09:57 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point. You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^ lol wtf he thinks i don't get lynched cause i'm female ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 01:11 GMT
#8800
and i've been mislynched once here...and would have been lynched in my first scum game if i hadn't conceded maybe there is a subconscious thing where people don't lynch people they like as frequently as others, and i will admit i know a lot of the players in these games more than passingly and i've made those mistakes myself, where i'm more likely to townread people i have some sort of attachment to (see: ls) however...if you're implying that the only reason i don't get lynched (as either alignment) is i'm female? that's kind of blah, va | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 01:22 GMT
#8802
i'd like to think that's not solely gender-based xP my friendships with people lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 01:42 GMT
#8805
On July 23 2015 10:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 10:33 Blazinghand wrote: On July 23 2015 10:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well im extremely good at the only video games ive ever bothered to play (starcraft, LoL) so there goes that study I guess. I'm not even harassing her, just simply the only person that won't bother to be politically correct and tell it how it is. FWIW even if your theory of people being unwilling to lynch women were true, the problem would almost certainly lie with the men who make up the majority of mafia players and make that decision, not with the women who play. Again, not saying anything about the reasonableness of your theory, just pointing out that if your theory is true it's a statement about the behavior of men. astute observation, but this has gone long enough sorry to derail the thread. I hope she did not take it as an attack at her. mm? no it kinda implies i just suck at life and only don't get lynched cause i'm female xP but i didn't actually think that's what you meant. i mean, it kinda falls in line with the women in combat arguments? legitimately women aren't as physically strong and that's a big part of why the argument still exists but an arguably bigger problem is how the men around the women react in combat situations...that natural protective instinct that causes them to do stupid things they otherwise wouldn't it's an intriguing concept...not sure how much it applies here or if you'd even be able to quantify it though lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:14 GMT
#8819
i kinda fail to see how this conversation could be constructive from here? disregarding the fact that by saying these things you guys are basically saying it doesn't matter how i play because i'm a girl the fact of the matter is this is a social game. you don't win just by being right. you also have to work within the player base and try to get people to do what you want them to do...it's part of the game. maybe my being nice and friendly outside the game helps me in that respect, but does that mean i'm unlynchable? (demonstrably not) does that mean i can get people to do whatever i want? (no) i'm not sure how this is different than say, palmar/marv or something when they've got townreads on each other no one else understands? or the game i was mislynched in where dp pandered to geript's ego and i couldn't get him lynched no matter how hard i tried lol >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:18 GMT
#8822
On July 23 2015 11:11 Blazinghand wrote: WoS scum MVP btw lol i kinda agree with this actually ^^ anyone who can spend that many days not really playing without getting lynched is a scum god xP i want his powers | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:26 GMT
#8827
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:30 GMT
#8828
On July 23 2015 11:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah I liked Breshke's JK timing and target to be honest. I do think someone like ruxxar would have been better. Did ruxxar carry KP that night? lol ruxxar and i carried kp most of the game xP so, yes we didn't think there were any blue roles left | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:37 GMT
#8832
On July 23 2015 11:34 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + rsoul 07-19-2015 05:19 PM ET (US) o.o you're shitting me...are they really lynching clarity? Glad I wasn't the only one shocked I nearly got lynched d5. lol xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 02:41 GMT
#8836
subjective games are subjective c'est la vie bueno xP i'm gonna see how many languages i can combine into one post...damdy you saddened me by dying so early lol | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 03:02 GMT
#8840
On July 23 2015 11:50 Damdred wrote: Well there wasn't much to do after I claimed jk which did confirm rit but made mi scim to people. In retrospect should of claimed 2 shot tracks. Anyway there wasn't anyway after I did my bone head bad claim I wasn't getting lynched sorry team besides geript catching me I was low in the lynch order so not that bad was just a good read by geript lol i'm teasing you ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 03:02 GMT
#8841
On July 23 2015 11:50 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2015 11:41 rsoultin wrote: lol >> treating us worse cause you know you're biased is just an expression of a different bias xP subjective games are subjective c'est la vie bueno xP i'm gonna see how many languages i can combine into one post...damdy you saddened me by dying so early lol Worse? ... Ok. Well, the effort is in the other direction. People don't explain things when I ask, I guess I can't expect it when I don't XD So it is especially funny to ask after being enigma. Hijole that was to damdred <3 no worries slam | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 04:30 GMT
#8846
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 17:42 GMT
#8868
There's a reason I usually don't deliberately butt heads with you otherwise lol and if ppl were payimg attention most of the fighting was hf apart from days 1 and 4 | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 18:01 GMT
#8873
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 18:03 GMT
#8875
On July 24 2015 02:46 geript wrote: tbh, HF's push on Rsoultin got me to look at her. When I did, there was a bunch of weird stuff imo. Not just the Damdred reads. But also the fact that there were surprisingly few actual reads. I didn't feel like I even knew who she wanted to lynch for most of the first half of her filter and it didn't look like she was trying to do anything. That's why I pushed on her late D2/N2. Yup lol that's what I mean. If i'm not doing anything relevant that's the biggest indicator. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 20:58 GMT
#8881
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 20:59 GMT
#8883
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 21:10 GMT
#8885
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rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 23 2015 22:54 GMT
#8887
lol xP | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
July 24 2015 18:23 GMT
#8894
On July 24 2015 16:18 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2015 07:54 rsoultin wrote: um, yeah, so to those commenting on hf and i "shitfighting all the time"... lol xP So ridiculous - who would ever say that? lord knows :/ | ||
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