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On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:38 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai
i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false. did you read his response or not?
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On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:
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This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town.
lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point
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On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta?
Didn't read the thread alert. The ritoky/milo points were the main ones and it looked like tmi which is also primarily what the milo case was too. Marv brought very good points up that ritoky didn't look apathetic at all and I corrected mz that he had posted but for some reason the apathetic town read did not apply to milo at all.
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On July 12 2015 23:41 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:38 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai
i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false. did you read his response or not? ????
he said that he was antagonizing everyone in that game and only marv here...like i dunnae jat. it didn't much matter to me to check up on, if you want complete honesty
y'all were gonna shoot him anyway, and the few things i pointed out that could have come from town y'all didn't care about
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On July 12 2015 23:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly. On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :| This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more. i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? Didn't read the thread alert. The ritoky/milo points were the main ones and it looked like tmi which is also primarily what the milo case was too. Marv brought very good points up that ritoky didn't look apathetic at all and I corrected mz that he had posted but for some reason the apathetic town read did not apply to milo at all.
^^ i didn't agree with that
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On July 12 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
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i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town. lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point
So you didn't/don't actually know what we were talking about and you are still telling me our reasons weren't absolutely amazing? And you see marv, me and LS who are all town going ham on him and don't give us enough credit to even give MZ a scumlean? Marv is rarely wrong when he is this convinced and the same goes for LS.
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this rsoultin holyflare thing is too ridiculous, they have basically the same filter length and only talk to eachother with bullshit 1 liners spamming the thread, im pissed after catching up.
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That's exactly my point. It's impossible not to agree with it unless you have tmi. His points were wrong.
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On July 12 2015 23:44 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
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Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him? i don't remember? lol bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read??? On a similar note: On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh
I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it. excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta? It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them. lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town. lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point So you didn't/don't actually know what we were talking about and you are still telling me our reasons weren't absolutely amazing? And you see marv, me and LS who are all town going ham on him and don't give us enough credit to even give MZ a scumlean? Marv is rarely wrong when he is this convinced and the same goes for LS.
nope, i didn't care ^^
and ls can certainly be wrong when he's this convinced. don't be bad, jat
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On July 12 2015 23:44 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
this rsoultin holyflare thing is too ridiculous, they have basically the same filter length and only talk to eachother with bullshit 1 liners spamming the thread, im pissed after catching up.
I've been here for like 20 minutes dude and hadn't posted a single thing the entire last night. That's a pretty fake post.
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Ok, there is scum between rsoultin and HF and maybe we should just lynch both of them after milo to get rid of it. Fortunately I won't be here and won't have to argue with whoever it is we are lynching first.
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like literally it doesn't fucking matter what i think about mz unless he's actually NOT shot last night. so no. i didn't check the meta. and frankly i almost never check the meta because unless it's a player i know it doesn't give me much
if you want to keep sitting there saying that it matters, you can, but i'm still town ^^
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On July 12 2015 23:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:44 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
this rsoultin holyflare thing is too ridiculous, they have basically the same filter length and only talk to eachother with bullshit 1 liners spamming the thread, im pissed after catching up. I've been here for like 20 minutes dude and hadn't posted a single thing the entire last night. That's a pretty fake post.
no it's very real. l8er
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yeah actually I could see scott being mafia.
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yeah the xebh post was super mafia.
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then lynch me so I dont have to read any more of this dribble, cya.
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On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:This fits the profile. Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing? It tells us their alignments. So that's something. But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next. Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things. Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway) Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.) Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.
Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.
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On July 12 2015 23:49 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
then lynch me so I dont have to read any more of this dribble, cya.
Come on, really?
This is such a terrible thing to say if you're town.
Why don't you want to play the game?
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On July 12 2015 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:This fits the profile. On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing? It tells us their alignments. So that's something. But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next. Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things. Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway) On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.) Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well. Nice misrep. I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ. I don't see how this is relevant anyway.
You're pretty hissy given that my next post basically invalidated the one you quote. Maybe finish reading before you snap.
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On July 12 2015 23:49 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
then lynch me so I dont have to read any more of this dribble, cya.
You seem like a smart person who can put together coherent thoughts.
If you just ignore HF/Rsoul for a while, what are your thoughts on the rest of the game?
Your latest scumlist had these people on it:
On July 11 2015 00:21 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
sure I can give a basic list of updated scumreads.
Damdred
milo
meapak
trfel
Kelsier
obi
in order of sureness. Breshke would be right under that at my most scummy null but I dropped off him a bit.
Has anything changed there?
How about town reads?
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