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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 15:01 GMT
#5781
On July 12 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:
This fits the profile.

On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)


On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)


Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.


Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.


You're pretty hissy given that my next post basically invalidated the one you quote. Maybe finish reading before you snap.


You didn't say that though.
How am I supposed to know that you think those quotes invalidate each other and why would you even bother posting it if that's the case?
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 12 2015 15:16 GMT
#5782
On July 12 2015 23:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:33 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:43 scott31337 wrote:
I'll switch if needed but I believe the wanderer claim without CC


This is a post I really can't understand. He believes the claim but still wants to lynch? Meh. That's so illogical makes me think he only wanted to appease those who wanted BM.

Damdred also decided to go for BM instead, for no apparent reasons. He didn't post much at all in that phase.


Vivax you ninjaed me was just going to ask what you thought about Scott. MZ had a good post here:

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 06:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.




Oats same question for you, thoughts on Scott's EoD behaviour d1 if you think he could be mafia?

(Also I am paying attention to the Ras tmi arguments. I understand the argument you are making JAT. Admittedly I didn't read the meta filters on mZ but I also did trust yours LS and Marvs opinions. May need to follow up....)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:23 GMT
#5783
So we gonna just talk about Scott or start a proper wagon? Good candidate for mafia imo.

Also noticed he scumreads Trfel , MZ and milo at the same time. YET, he seems to keep Trfel in the back of his pockets in terms of interest and yet, in this post, he adresses him in a way that seems more confident into him being scum than into MZ or milo:

On July 10 2015 15:14 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 15:05 Trfel wrote:
On July 10 2015 15:03 scott31337 wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:59 Trfel wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:57 rsoultin wrote:
On July 10 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote:
I don't really remember milo109 being that scummy, either. He said something I felt was towny, and Palmar thought he was town too.

I don't see ritoky's and milo109's claims being mutually exclusive, I guess. 1-shot and 2-shot cops aren't all that powerful.


two cops and a tracker is kinda stacked with self-aware millers/wanderers imo...plus vet...plus gunwhateverythingysantagifter...plus banisher

xP that's ignoring damdy's jk claim

so it's really not that probable but still kinda a bad reason by itself (also, there was a post by rit that kinda gives me pause, cause it looked almost like they shared wording or something for the pm? though...in retrospect i dunnae all the roles are still written out in the op supposedly how they went out, so that's probably nothing after all -_- ignore me; i'm tired)
There are just too many claims

Wouldn't be surprised if at least two are fake.


Which claims do you believe are fake?
No clue? XD

Maybe LightningStrike?


Are you serious? the person who claims at the slightest emotion of pressure fake-claimed? AHAHAHAHA

I am so sick of him claiming on a breath of wind and hopefully he will learn one fucking day - because it does not help town being so panicky - I 99.9% believe the claim though - I believe you are grasping at straws.

You seem to have read the thread though, or a summary in the ScumQT


My impression at least when I compare it with his MZ and milo dialogue

##Vote scott
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 12 2015 15:24 GMT
#5784
You think Scott is better than milo for today?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 15:24 GMT
#5785
I've been talking about scott forever. Scott is still a fantastic lynch I think.
Are we really going to push that over a milo wagon today though?
Retired.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:25 GMT
#5786
We aren't lynching anyone but milo unless someone convinces me that he is not basically confirmed mafia snd I don't think that's even possible.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:29 GMT
#5787
On July 13 2015 00:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've been talking about scott forever. Scott is still a fantastic lynch I think.
Are we really going to push that over a milo wagon today though?


To be fair I don't find it too unlikely there are two cops. I do find it more unlikely that there are two roleblockers however. But it isn't that unlikely if it's all scum has, there's skill involved in sniffing out blues when they don't all claim on D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:35 GMT
#5788
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:36 GMT
#5789
On July 13 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.

First of all that is exactly what he is doing and second of all that's the weakest reason ever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:41 GMT
#5790
On July 13 2015 00:36 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.

First of all that is exactly what he is doing and second of all that's the weakest reason ever.


How about this: Why the hell does he claim another cop of all the roles?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:42 GMT
#5791
He could have claimed something that doesn't need constant roleblocking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 12 2015 15:44 GMT
#5792
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:46 GMT
#5793
On July 13 2015 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.

Not sure I follow you here. Sure, if LS got rbed milo is confirmed mafia but if he didn't that still doesn't make milo town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 12 2015 15:50 GMT
#5794
On July 13 2015 00:46 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.

Not sure I follow you here. Sure, if LS got rbed milo is confirmed mafia but if he didn't that still doesn't make milo town?


I didn't say milo was town i said if he's mafia theres 3 other mafia that we could be killing today and it let's us confirm if milo is a cop tomorrow by getting the person to announce who they are shooting. If he gets rb'd again and mafia dies then who cares we get to lynch him. If he gets rb'd and town dies then who cares we get to lynch him. I just think milo is a seriously stale topic and other lynches are far far better.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 12 2015 15:51 GMT
#5795
Like mafia knew he was getting very likely lynched today so they've had so much time to posture and look good it's a bad lynch over say scott or some afker like kelsier who hasn't particulaly been talked about.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 12 2015 15:51 GMT
#5796
What about scott HF? Don't like the arguments presented?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 12 2015 15:54 GMT
#5797
Well I got one way to see if I got roleblocked because I did try to give my last gun away should I out the person out to see if they got it or no?
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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:56 GMT
#5798
On July 13 2015 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:46 Harkon wrote:
On July 13 2015 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.

Not sure I follow you here. Sure, if LS got rbed milo is confirmed mafia but if he didn't that still doesn't make milo town?


I didn't say milo was town i said if he's mafia theres 3 other mafia that we could be killing today and it let's us confirm if milo is a cop tomorrow by getting the person to announce who they are shooting. If he gets rb'd again and mafia dies then who cares we get to lynch him. If he gets rb'd and town dies then who cares we get to lynch him. I just think milo is a seriously stale topic and other lynches are far far better.

I don't think there is a better lynch than mafia. And if we lynch milo today and he flips scum then we have confirmed that there is no rb and the player with the gun can still announce and be held accountable. If we do not lynch milo today then we only achieve that tomorrows discussion will also be stale.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:56 GMT
#5799
On July 13 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I got one way to see if I got roleblocked because I did try to give my last gun away should I out the person out to see if they got it or no?

No need to do that during the day.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 15:57 GMT
#5800
You would know if you got roleblocked. It refunds your ability, as per the rules.
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