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On July 17 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote: okay i'm behind catch me up we're lynching hf but from this page clearly y'all have some reason to doubt it, so what's going on? People got shaky on the lynch. Some people wanted to lynch me instead. HF said no. People stayed on HF. | ||
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On July 17 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: you should want mafia to switch off and no lynch because then you get free mafia tbh That's actually a good point. | ||
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On July 17 2015 07:06 Blazinghand wrote: it had the flip adj yes it was night post it even says night on it. Be grateful Sorry BH, i wasn't mocking your post. No modkillerino pls *puppey eyes* | ||
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That's all I got to say. | ||
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On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin I had a strong townread that I've explained several times? It's not the first time I take a hard stance on defending someone. You were my coach in the newbie game where I hard defended a scum so much that I said I was 100% willing to get lynched next day if I was wrong. | ||
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On July 17 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote: maybe? i didn't read that game your explanation is basically frills and whistles -shrugs- feels and generic comments with little in the way of actual evidence to back it up you basically said he looked town because he looked town Yeah... no, I've said a lot more than that. Read the comments I made about him and try again. Here, I'll even link them for you since I'm so nice: Post 1 Post 2 Post 3 Post 4 | ||
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On July 17 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: Honestly there was like 4-5 votes outside of the HF wagon I think at least 1 is scum in those and at least 2 on the main wagon I will try to put up some work tonight on vote analyses up to this night phase. You told me earlier there was 1 scum between HF and Rsoultin. What is your opinion now? Is rsoultin scum? | ||
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On July 17 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote: I support this scum team. Reason being that they are my townreads, thus they have to be mafia. You think I'm kidding, but I'm 100% serious. I'm actually starting to lean into this "my town reads are scum" paranoia world. I don't want to get burned again by not considering my town reads as scum. At this point all bets are off. | ||
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On July 17 2015 08:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Unless you can give me a really good reason why you didnt consolidate onto HF when there is 1 vote away from being a nolynch. Start reading here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24564060 | ||
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It just seems very unlikely. I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people: Rsoultin HTS Obiwanshinobi Trfel Clarity I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it. LS is gunsmith so there's that. It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone. I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here. Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. | ||
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Not to rain on your parade here, but I already looked into the associations between clarity and kelsier/damdred. Damdred actually had clarity as one of his strongest scum reads and was actually the one I felt he elaborated the most on of his scumreads. So to say that he didn't pursue it is to misrepresent what he actually did. On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote: Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today. I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading. The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF. The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning. The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point. TLDR Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post Lacks follow through on some posts/questions Lacks scum reads Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks. This guy is scum vot ehim. | ||
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On July 18 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote: He did so veeeeery late. And dropped that as well in his later reads. Making one case that doesn't have any conviction throughout the game doesn't exclude it's a bus, it only means he made a well written case on a teammate for the reason you bring that up now. That is true, however after reading damdred's filter, he didn't really pursue any of his scum-reads at all. From the analysis I did earlier I felt like clarity was damdreds second strongest scum-read throughout the whole game. So no, he didn't push him very hard in a general sense, but did so in a relative sense compare to the other pushes he's done this game. And you can't really say that he dropped the scum-read because the last list post he made was just wifom after he already got caught. | ||
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I'm saying that damdred had clarity as his second strongest scum-read the whole game, and he didn't push hard on any of his scum reads in a general sense. | ||
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On July 18 2015 04:10 Vivax wrote: So what's the point of pointing out that he did push clarity if to you it should be meaningless? It's not meaningless. You have to evaluate people's actions in context of their other actions, not just in a general sense. You tried to push a case on clarity and I'm not going to sit here and just nod and agree to it when part of case has basis in what I consider a false premise. | ||
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On July 18 2015 04:11 Vivax wrote: I don't even care what you say past this point tbh, you're mafia for that bs. Good job mafia hunter elite Vivax. I'm glad to see that your mafia hunting skills have improved since your victim geript. Let's just stamp Clarity,rsoul and my name on the noose and ship this game shall we? | ||
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On July 18 2015 04:13 Vivax wrote: 'Also nice to see how rso was your scumread all along and now you're both holding hands and singing kumbaya. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA *catches breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sorry, you were saying? | ||
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On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote: Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis. I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises. Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them. | ||
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It's funny how of instead of actually going back and re-evaluating whether your case was indeed correct or have a discussion with me about it, you instantly jump on me and call me mafia for pointing out that I disagree with it. | ||
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