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im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
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if you guys are gonna call me a lurker at least know what you're talking about eh? I actually read the game.
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
Yes he did?
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On June 20 2015 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
kinda reinforces the fact that GB is probably scum, he talks a lot in QT and has weird commitment issues on nightkills and actions. likes to second guess. A clear protection dodge on the nightkill.
Sorry, KSC was the best player phase 1. He clearly wasn't a dodge.
Cool WIFOM, tho. Very scum like
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On June 20 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal I won't ever lynch fid or rs. I really don't want to say why necessarily but it's there.
And Ritoky I have had no internet and behind like 60 pages I'll do stuff but I'd rather interact while I can as well
Why, exactly?
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On June 20 2015 11:48 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal I won't ever lynch fid or rs. I really don't want to say why necessarily but it's there.
And Ritoky I have had no internet and behind like 60 pages I'll do stuff but I'd rather interact while I can as well <3 GB How does it make sense specifically cause hf and I both read mig's filter and didn't come to that conclusion at all
I said what I found townie in his filter
I can't evaluate from your point of view without you saying what you don't like in there
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
So can you actually respond to it since he did vote GB
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On June 20 2015 12:47 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 11:48 rsoultin wrote:On June 20 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal I won't ever lynch fid or rs. I really don't want to say why necessarily but it's there.
And Ritoky I have had no internet and behind like 60 pages I'll do stuff but I'd rather interact while I can as well <3 GB How does it make sense specifically cause hf and I both read mig's filter and didn't come to that conclusion at all I said what I found townie in his filter I can't evaluate from your point of view without you saying what you don't like in there
No..you said the vote made sense. HF and I say it doesn't. Explain why you think it makes sense
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On June 20 2015 12:53 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL So can you actually respond to it since he did vote GB
+1
If you were reading the thread a ksc nk would not surprise you and mafia gets two kp nights one and two according to the op which means most likely rb or protection cause I don't see the value for scum in not using two kp while they have it. At best this is poor reasoning and at worst flatout manipulative saying a lack kill somehow confirms or strengthens a gb scumread
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what the fuck are people even talking about right now?
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Vas wifom shit he chose to grace us with
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like who gives a shit about VA right now, why aren't we lynching shockeyy?
he was near the top of my lynch list, and almost everyone else's, and do you wanna see his 1 night time contribution:
On June 20 2015 01:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there, GB you've been saying I'm scum since the beginning in like in every game we have played together, you constantly attack me just cause. You don't even have a real reason as to why I am scum this game, you just say I am. Now I want you to think about the logic behind my vote switch. You say that the game is based on the biggest filter which I repeatedly asked you to give me a good explanation here and quite multiple times. "Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?"Which you some what answered here, but I'm expecting something different out of you: Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours. while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise? I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely. I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway. You will ALWAYS be able to build bigger and more comprehensive cases on people that have 10x the pages of a second scum read. You're basically saying I'm Mafia with Shockey and Onegu out of bad unflipped association I need you to realize, I had the voting power to either lynch you or BF. I lynched BF because I based my response out of your stupid thought of having the biggest filter to not lynch D1 and his slight scum posts but what happened? We lynched a town, if you were pro town, why did you switch to me, the "new" lynch train? Why didn't you just stay on LS or switch to BF from the get go? Why were you second guessing who to vote? As soon as I voted you, you instantly switched to me, then I switch off you switched off. Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
WOWWW that last post of mine was crap. I should probably persevere and actually try and finish the filter dive. BRB. THIS post was crap. Why are you second guessing your own posts and posting this to tell us you're going to keep filter diving? Because you already have the biggest filter in the game. We lynched the smallest, now we should lynch the biggest if that's the logic you play by. Are you going to keep creating posts to build your filter to make it harder to scum read you? Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye  if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding. Haven't read you filter yet I base day1 on biggest filters, not the whole game What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters. You can keep thinking i'm scum, but if you are really town, I need you to realize I lynched the one that really seemed scummier to me. Either we work together and really find scum or you keep on with your ignorance of me since the first game we played together.Now back to re-reading thread and follow up since I have the time to do so atm.
he is talking to GB like he knows GB is confirmed town and then he promises activity and that he is reading/evaluating the thread and then never delivers. combine that with cases already made and the whole bugs prompting him when he was gone forever thing; voila i have a mafia.
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he had time to do so boys.
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let's not forget who tried to actually lynch this guy over both wagons last phase? that would be me and ksc. should i keep going?
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On June 20 2015 13:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 12:47 GlowingBear wrote:On June 20 2015 11:48 rsoultin wrote:On June 20 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal I won't ever lynch fid or rs. I really don't want to say why necessarily but it's there.
And Ritoky I have had no internet and behind like 60 pages I'll do stuff but I'd rather interact while I can as well <3 GB How does it make sense specifically cause hf and I both read mig's filter and didn't come to that conclusion at all I said what I found townie in his filter I can't evaluate from your point of view without you saying what you don't like in there No..you said the vote made sense. HF and I say it doesn't. Explain why you think it makes sense
I just said he was suspicious of boxer in his filter? If he has suspicions on both me and boxer, and see both of us as wagons, it makes sense to go after the one who isn't fighting his lynch with everything he can.
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i could see shockeyy being part of the scumteam. I mean it has to be a group of sorta idiots to NK kelsier who would have modkilled himself at some point. Im pretty much confirmed town because that night kill would NEVER get through on my team
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All the reasons VA is bringing to lynch me is shit
Especially the Caps Lock shit
I would expect scum to let me live and waste a day2 over a mislynch. You're just trying to call me scum over nothing, VA.
You're probably mafia.
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On June 20 2015 14:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
i could see shockeyy being part of the scumteam. I mean it has to be a group of sorta idiots to NK kelsier who would have modkilled himself at some point. Im pretty much confirmed town because that night kill would NEVER get through on my team
VA pls.
Do you have any read that doesn't relies on WIFOM?
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thats not wifom thats a fact
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