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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 16:42 GMT
#1461
On May 08 2015 01:33 Superbia wrote:
Excellent. This game is making a lot more sense now, assuming prp indeed flips scum (and he should, probably goon). The fact that he's willing to trade his life for the doctor means that there is 100% mafia on his wagon already (bus has been coming). I think it's stutters. Why? Find out in the next episode of: "Superbia solves the game" (i.e. this evening). Hint: if you can figure out why, you get a free townread! (hint: Adamantine).


Quite interested in this thing on Stutters. I had a quick flick back through his filter myself and found this from quite early on:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=46#902

I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.


Its like...he could see scum on prpl...but then starts to set up a potential callback for when prpl flips scum to try to tie it into disformation. As if he's preemptively setting himself up for a push on disformation when prpl flips scum. Despite the fact that disformation was also onto prpl.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 07 2015 16:42 GMT
#1462
bah i'm done here have fun guys
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 16:43 GMT
#1463
On May 08 2015 01:35 disformation wrote:
I also gave sicklucker a bunch of town cred for his math theory stuff. Since he genuinely seemed into the idea that there is a vet and stuff.


This is actually a good point. sicklucker was tunneling REALLY hard on the idea of a veteran if I remember rightly. Whereas if he was scum he'd KNOW there's no veteran.

Could be an act, but something to think about anyway.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 16:46 GMT
#1464
GGs prplhz.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 16:48 GMT
#1465
On my phone. DT/doc setup not possible?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 16:51 GMT
#1466
No it is. I think its wifom....but no I see what Superbia means.

This would be the third bloody newbie game in a row lacking a DT.

I CALL SHENNANIGANS ON THESE NEWBIE HOSTS. >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#1467
On May 08 2015 01:51 Half the Sky wrote:
No it is. I think its wifom....but no I see what Superbia means.

This would be the third bloody newbie game in a row lacking a DT.

I CALL SHENNANIGANS ON THESE NEWBIE HOSTS. >_<


Yeah, from the games I've read I was half expecting to see two VT's getting shot N1.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#1468
Celestial, ritoky did the same thing with the prp mind meld.

They both need looked at?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 16:57 GMT
#1469
On May 08 2015 01:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Celestial, ritoky did the same thing with the prp mind meld.

They both need looked at?


Well I'm going to wait until the flip until I start filter diving again but yeah, in light of the new information there's a bunch I'm going to check over.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:58:07
May 07 2015 16:57 GMT
#1470
VOTE COUNT:


prplhz (6) : Tictock, Half the Sky (X), Stutters695, -Celestial-, Half the Sky, disformation, Superbia
Superbia (1) : sicklucker, Half the Sky (X)
Stutters695 (0) : Superbia (X)
The Shining (0) : disformation (X), Superbia (X)
y0su (0) : Superbia (X)

Not voting (4) : prplhz, ritoky, The Shining, y0su


The cycle will end at Thursday, May 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), 6 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

Currently, prplhz is set to be lynched!

If you see any vote out of place, holler at the hosting team so that we can correct it.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 16:58 GMT
#1471
Oh god. Vig held his shot N1? That is why only one death N1.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 16:59 GMT
#1472
On May 08 2015 01:51 Half the Sky wrote:
No it is. I think its wifom....but no I see what Superbia means.

This would be the third bloody newbie game in a row lacking a DT.

I CALL SHENNANIGANS ON THESE NEWBIE HOSTS. >_<



Direct quote for reference:

This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon



Bolded emphasis mine given the doc call.

There's either a Vig or a Cop in the game. That being said if its Vig they definitely should shoot tonight.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 17:01 GMT
#1473
Superbia contends that prp would have claimed DT to draw out the DT claim.

Hence unlikely a DT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 07 2015 17:03 GMT
#1474
busy irl. prp is not blue, if he was blue he would have claimed yesterday; waited until near deadline out of desperation.

##vote: prp
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 07 2015 17:07 GMT
#1475
Well, if prplhz is the goon, they still have the GF.
So I would be not too sure about the DT thing...
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 17:10 GMT
#1476
On May 08 2015 02:07 disformation wrote:
Well, if prplhz is the goon, they still have the GF.
So I would be not too sure about the DT thing...


Damn. This is a very good point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 17:11 GMT
#1477
On May 08 2015 02:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Superbia contends that prp would have claimed DT to draw out the DT claim.

Hence unlikely a DT.


I guess, but I'm not 100% on that. Drawing out the DT claim also allows the DT to freely post their checks giving town more info outright that can then be confirmed by the DT death. Why is the DT kill more valuable than the Doc kill?

Anyway this is all kind of unnecessary at this point. prplhz dies now. Vig should shoot tonight. disformation pretty much 100% dies tonight, can't see any reason for mafia to leave him alive. If Vig gets a good shot then we're two Mafia up.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 17:12 GMT
#1478
A vig absolutely would have shot N1.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#1479
Yeh you're right Celestial. Like I said before what the other blue role is, is wifom.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 17:16 GMT
#1480
Also yes, disformation puts up a good point.

Lets think though, if prplhz was Godfather he'll return VT to checks. Which means that anything he claims other than VT means he's automatically scum. So claiming DT would be his best call, since it should guarantee the DT counterclaim and get the DT kill; thus leaving his buddies safer.

As either of the others you claim Doc. Because if the Doc dies your KP become more potent (because you're not going to be worrying about saves). Its more dangerous for the other non-Godfather role, but it gives the DT time to get a green check on the Godfather so if the DT eventually outs you're in a great position to win.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
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